Rescuing an International Harvester IH B-414 Diesel Tractor (Maybe)
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2021
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What I thought was a IH 444 is a IH B414.
worked on it August 15, 2023. I will go back again in a day or so. - Авто та транспорт
I thought it was a IH 444 is a IH B414. I worked on it the 15th of August 2023. I will go back tomorrow.
This is a great tractor. I've had one for 50 years without any problems.
Letting them set causes all kinds of problems.
I have in my shop now and I'm working on more vids.
Thanks for the positive comment.
I bought a 1965 David Brown that needed starting fluid to start..ended up it was dirty injector..ran some cleaner through it and fixed a couple other problems and she starts fine
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
My papaw bought one new in the late 60s. Papaw has been gone for awhile. Cousin still has the tractor on the farm. Papaw loved his IH
Over 50 years old and still going. Your papaw mush taken good care of it.
Thanks for looking and the nice comment.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
PTO lever on left side under seat mount.
Thanks. Yes. I know that now.
Thanks for watching.
Going to get my great grandfather's b414 next weekend
That's great. Is it in running order or has it been setting for awhile?
I own a 2444 gas. Its the industrial version, same tractor basically painted yellow. Its a very capable tractor with a bunch of high end features. Its getting to be a pretty rare tractor as they were not sleeved engines so by this point most have been rebuilt beyond serviceability. This diesel version would be the bomb once running. Yours is in some great shape. Spinning a diesel that easily by hand is pretty alarming though. I have a 40 year old straight six ford diesel in my boat that I can barely budge by hand. Good luck with her I hope it works out!
Thanks very much Kyle.
I'll get back to it if it ever cools off here. It's in prime rattlesnake country and I'll have too use snake champs just the weed eat around it. I'm not scared of rattlers. I respect them plus I'm not stupid either.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Clint in Virginia.
I have a gas model 2444 too in Indiana.
I just saw this comment. I started working on the tractor August 15th. Many fuel problems, but I'm getting there. I've learned a lot about a diesel motor.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
Thanks for sharing Clint. I really enjoyed walking through this discovery with you. As one of your commenters mentioned below, you have a B414 diesel here (IH made a gas variant as well). The model numbers is painted on the white oval on either side of the tractor...yours looks too faded to read though. Looking forward to your next video when you get that puppy started!
Thanks very much.
I hope to get back to it in the next couple of weeks and try starting it. I've been waiting on colder weather because of the weeds, chiggers and snakes. It's in prime rattlesnake country. The owner warned me of that.
I have found out since, that the model tag is behind the engine on the right side.
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY Good luck and be safe!
I started working on the tractor August 15th. Many fuel problems, but I'm getting there.
Exciting news Clint. I have been wondering about your progress. Looking forward to an updated video with the results. You got this! I'm in south-central Virginia. Holler if you need me to haul it back to my house :).
@@dadx4904 Thanks for the reply. I'm in Bedford County, so we must be close. Thanks for the trailer offer, but I have a 20" tilt.
Good day from Ontario.. I think that is a 414. We used to have one. They are hard starter, but do have glow-plugs, they had to be used even in summer. Yes that pto lever. Did you do another video on it? Turning over with 1 finger does not seem good, but with only 1000 hrs on. 1 back tire must have been replaced. Thanks good luck
Hi Don.
I'm going back after colder weather comes here in Virginia. It's in a prime Rattlesnake area.
I've researched the glow plugs and they run on 9 tenths of a volt. It should have a resistor in inline going to the starter switch, but the owner said he never had a key. It has a add on push button for the starter. That tells me the glow plugs were not being used. So I can hot wire to the glow plugs resistor and see if it will start without starting fluid. Also Champion makes replacement glow plugs that run on 12 volts.
When I get back to it I'll make another vid.
Thanks for your interest.
Clint
The glow plugs are activated by the L handle on the right of the dash, the key switch on the B414 only enables the generator charge.
Thanks very much. It's a B414. I worked on it today. I'll go back tomorrow.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
I'm also trying to get an old Intl B414 tractor running right now. Not sure how long it's been sitting. It'll crank but nothing fires so could be lack of fuel. Clogged line or filter possibly. Anyhow, good luck and God bless
I've been working on this one for the last week and a half. Fuel is all the problems. First a hole in the fuel tank, then the line going to the lift fuel pump and the one from it to the filter were plugged. The fuel filter was worthless, so I installed a new one. Now the problem is the injector pump not pumping to the injectors. After taking the top off the injector pump, I found the fuel cutoff stuck in the cutoff position. (That's a common problem with the CAV pumps.) Then the pump inlet filter to the pump from the fuel filter was plugged. Still won't pump fuel to the injectors. I have ordered a seal kit for the pump. Have the injector pump remanufactured is $700.
If you take the top off the CAV pump, remember the position of where the springs hook.
I'll send you a link about the pump you should watch.
If I can help in in way just ask.
Many thanks for the sub.
Clint in Virginia
This is a great vid about the CAV pump.
ua-cam.com/video/h26p78YZIr4/v-deo.html
This is about the fuel cutoff getting stuck.
ua-cam.com/video/LCsph7EMw2w/v-deo.html
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY Thank you for all of that. I'm having the exact same problem, no fuel going from CAV to the injectors.Any progress on your end?
The fins in the transfer pump were broken and the liner ring they run in had two badly pitted spots where the fins run in the ring. I have both now and will try to get it back together today. The fins are made of something like Bakelite. So, they wouldn't have lasted long in the pitted liner ring.
They are easy to check. Take the 4 bolts out of the end of the pump where the fuel line comes in. and there they are. The liner ring will come out with a magnet. Remember the position of the notch on the ring and put it back the same way.
Let me know if I can help.
I bet it run great
Thanks. I'm going to find out real soon. Maybe today if everything goes right.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
I know you said you were not a diesel mechanic Clint, but I have faith in you! Curious if you've made any progress on this old International beauty. Looks like good potential here. Many thanks!
I talked to the owner about a month ago. I will go back after cold weather sets in and I'm sure the rattlers have gone in. It's in prime Rattler snake country. I'm not that paranoid of them, but not stupid either. Sometime in December I hope right after Deer hunting season goes out.
My shop build is winding down, so I will have a place to work on it.
Thanks very much for your interest.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
I have a 2444. Hood doesn't open like that. Wish it did
I know where the ID tag is now.
Hopefully I'll get back there in the next couple of weeks and try to start it.
It's really bad Rattlesnake country, so I've been waiting on colder weather.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
Small shifter behind your left foot when sitting is the pto shifter
That's what I finally figured out. Thanks.
Lol, I was sitting here saying "on the left side under the seat".
I started working on the tractor August 15th. Many fuel problems, but I'm getting there.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
What is one with in this shape?
I think you are asking what they are worth. I paid $500 for this one with the agreement I could get it started, but it had a good Brush Hog and Front-End Loader. I'm guessing one running without the attachments top dollar would be around $1800.
U have done it then put it back in then when u left it it out but u did not try it pedal at other side diff lock
Yes, you are correct.
I have it in my shop now. More vids to come.
Thanks for watching and the positive comment.
Did you or did you not get the tractor there are no more videos
Good timing Richard.
I started working on it where it sets about two weeks ago. Many fuel problems. I just came back in from the shop 10 minutes ago from putting the injector pump back together. Hopefully I'll get it running tomorrow unless I have problems with the Injectors. When I do get it running, I will be posting vids as I get it mechanically sound.
Thanks for your Interest.
I just posted a short update vid on this tractor. Sorry for taking so long. Build a 40'X60' shop interfered. More footage coming later.
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY I just had to put a steering motor in my IH454 had to get one out of a salvage yard going to ship the old one to a place in Louisiana to be rebuilt
Did u get it running
I'm waiting for fall Aaron. I'll have to cut a path through the stick weeds to get to it. I've researched those engines and they have heaters that run on 9 tenths of a volt and take forever to heat up. Champion makes a replacement that runs on 12 volts. Also the key switch has been by-passed and it has a push button. So I'm thinking the heaters were not being used. I plan to jump wire the heaters for a couple of minutes and see what happens. I don't have or want anything that I have to use starting fluid on.
Also it's rattlesnake country big time. I'm not paranoid over them, but I don't push my luck either.
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY amen on that..don't wanna get bit
I have a diesel 414. I think my power to activate the glow plugs comes from the key to the I guess you call it the L switch on the dash. It also provides power to the rotary light switch. I turn the key, hold the L switch for about 20 seconds (maybe), the glow plug indicator (metal piece on the dash with holes) starts to glow to indicate they're working, and then I let go of the L switch and shove the starter leaver (by the transmission hi-lo lever) down to engage the starter. Like someone else said - even in the warmth of summer you need to use the glow plugs but maybe just not as long as winter). Great little tractor. If you have question let me know
I don't see a mechanical starting lever on that tractor but I do see a generator so it's 6 volt positive ground. Mine was converted to an alternator 12 volt negative ground. I had the starter completely rebuilt and an extra ground strap added to it - it really rolls that engine now and always fires right up.
I’m seeing a lot more good signs than bad buddy! See if tractor data.com can’t give you the specs on that jewel, it will tell you where to look for the numbers. I’m betting it will bust off!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks buddy. Yes, more good than bad.
I hope someone stole the fuel out of the tank rather than it leaking out. The owner said he didn't drain it.
I've been studying it. It's either a BD-144 or BD-154 Engine. It's so dirty It will help to know where to look.
tractor data. com had it.
Serial number plate on the 444 clutch housing on the right side of the tractor.
Thanks again.
@@ClintsHobbiesDIY I don’t know much, but I’ll share what I know buddy! Glad I could help!