Great video, i would use thread lock in the crank bolt, i believe the torque setting is dangerously high, i know its a manufacturer spec , but none the less its very severe
did you fill the coolant back before starting? I saw the reservoir tank looks empty. How many hours did you take completing the job? I'm planning to replace the timing belt of my citroen c3 2013 model this week and this video will be very helpful. Thanks
A fantastic informative video, can't thank you enough ahead of trying this myself. Did i see correctly on the invoice that the belt cost £170 ish quids ? Or was that for all the consumables? If its not too much trouble, do you have a check list of all the seals, consumables which need ordering in advance? Thanks again and well done on a superb video 👍
Yes that was for the belt and tensioner and idler but I purchased those from main dealer directly - you could get it cheaper somewhere I suspect You will need Timing belt Idler Tensioner Ancillary drive belt Coolant pump belt Rocker cover gasket Crankshaft radial oil seal 👍🏽 Also worth doing an oil change if you drop the sump of course… I’d say all in parts were 340 quid or so
@Thehuntedfew1 no there is zero damage to the belt 😄 they only start to crack when they are old just bending it will in no way damage the belt they are very very tough 👍🏽
Anyone know how tight to do the sump bolts, want to take mine off to see if anything in my strainer because I know Peugeot certainly didn't do it when they changed the belt. It came back with the same oil in it!.
The 180 degrees stretches the bolt to prevent it backing off because of engine vibrations. This a very common design of bolt used in many different places on cars
the new belt you just put in the car is the same as mine. Same numbers and everything and btw my car is Citroen C3 2022. Also where did you buy it because its rare to find the same belt like this one cheers
This car does not belong to me it is a customer car and we see dozens of these engines every year that required engine rebuilds due to snapped belts, this one was caught early but even the newer, apparently improved belts still wear prematurely and snap - in fact the car in the video despite only being a few years old is now on its third belt already trying to avoid a wrecked engine! unfortunately they are not very reliable engines
Nice vid, but I'm not sure about the crank bolt torque, I see 20nm and 140 Deg, this could possibly be because new bolt has no pressed washer and slightly shorter, does anyone know for sure?
The torque yield is the 20nm which is the bolt tight, the 140 degrees is the calculation for the stretch in the thread profile of the bolt. When you turn it to 140 degrees it creates a spring tension by elongating the bolt stopping the vibrations of the engine working it loose! These torque settings are from main dealer and apply to all different styles of bolt and washer according to them! 😁 be interested to hear others thoughts
@@alexandreryffen6983yes because the inlet VVT on mine locked up when rotating the engine by hand, you need to lock the camshafts to check the vvt is locked, if it isn’t locked and you fit the new belt you will fit it out of phase and it won’t run right - many people do this without tools and don’t have issues but if you have a vvt blocked with old bits of timing belt then it may not lock properly and won’t be in the correct position and you won’t realise it You also won’t be able to tighten up the crankshaft bolt properly without locking the engine
Great video, terrible cambelt that had deteriorated so badly by 42,000 miles. Concerning that the replacement belt is identical so in effect will also fray and block strainer and therefore not " fit for purpose "
There are plenty of non-professionals mechs in the world who are more than capable of replacing a timing belt especially on a pure-tech car, which is one of the easiest to do, but I can understand why professionals take a dim view of this. Btw I guess you replaced the crankshaft bolt as well as this is in the procedure (cannot reuse the old one)
@angturil Yes replacement bolts were used including the crankshaft bolt. I think it’s empowering for any diyer to do their own work or at least have a go 😄 but as a professional mechanic I have seen more than one or two cases of a timing belt gone wrong.. there are a few examples on the channel.. I would say this is a medium difficulty timing belt it’s certainly not one of the easiest when you compare to a D5 Volvo, or a G13BB Suzuki engine
Great video, i would use thread lock in the crank bolt, i believe the torque setting is dangerously high, i know its a manufacturer spec , but none the less its very severe
Just fitted mine and a water pump with the help of your video, cheers 🍻
Well done!
@maxautouk just need a video on piston rings .........😅
@aaronkitson3229 who knows maybe one day soon!
@@maxautouk hurry with that video 😅 I'm burning through too much oil haha
@aaronkitson3229 I just need to wait for one to die then I’ll make the video! 😁
did you fill the coolant back before starting? I saw the reservoir tank looks empty. How many hours did you take completing the job? I'm planning to replace the timing belt of my citroen c3 2013 model this week and this video will be very helpful. Thanks
I cant recall now its been such a long time but i so usually start it briefly to make sure everything is ok and then add the coolant
Just fitted mine today but haven't started the car yet as got to finish off putting things back. Bum twitchy time tomorrow lol
Hope it went well!!
@maxautouk yep, the car started fine and everything seems OK. The old timing belt looked like new to be fair but I do two oil changes a year
Very good and I’m glad you’ve got it all sorted
@@stevenkirkpatrick2917at what mileage you change the belt?
@filipkrstevski5449 28.500 miles but it's 10 years old
and i believe that you get the newest generation of the belts post 2021 thats why i am curious because first time i can see it as an aftermarket part
The one I fitted was from Peugeot themselves
A fantastic informative video, can't thank you enough ahead of trying this myself. Did i see correctly on the invoice that the belt cost £170 ish quids ? Or was that for all the consumables? If its not too much trouble, do you have a check list of all the seals, consumables which need ordering in advance? Thanks again and well done on a superb video 👍
Yes that was for the belt and tensioner and idler but I purchased those from main dealer directly - you could get it cheaper somewhere I suspect
You will need
Timing belt
Idler
Tensioner
Ancillary drive belt
Coolant pump belt
Rocker cover gasket
Crankshaft radial oil seal 👍🏽
Also worth doing an oil change if you drop the sump of course…
I’d say all in parts were 340 quid or so
@maxautouk Awesome...really appreciate the info. Cheers 👍
Anytime!
great video ,my cactus c4 has the same engine will not be attempting to change it myself ,will cost a bomb at a garage.
Not unusual to be anywhere from 800+ sadly
Are you tightening the crank bolt useing the locking tool to hold the flywheel?
Oh yes
Surely it's easier to remove the front crank seal when the crank cog is off?
It’s easy to remove in any case but it’s nice to have the crank pulley to lever against
Will the belt not be damaged when you squeeze it back in like that? Would lead to a crack or two surely ?
What do you mean I squeeze it back?
@maxautouk @ 1:52 when you push the belt past the cams
@Thehuntedfew1 no there is zero damage to the belt 😄 they only start to crack when they are old just bending it will in no way damage the belt they are very very tough 👍🏽
@@maxautouk thank you. good to know, about to have mine changed
Excellent video thanks
Thanks for the comment!
What concerns me is how do you know the belt is correctly meshed on the bottom pulley ?
If it isn’t, you won’t be able to fit the idler and tensioner
Thanks! Dont forget to eh top up the coolant
Anyone know how tight to do the sump bolts, want to take mine off to see if anything in my strainer because I know Peugeot certainly didn't do it when they changed the belt. It came back with the same oil in it!.
Why so much force on the bolt behind the pully? Is 50nm not enough then?
The 180 degrees stretches the bolt to prevent it backing off because of engine vibrations. This a very common design of bolt used in many different places on cars
Nice video! How much time did it take to finish the job?
Without videoing it probably six hours
Great job 👍
Thanks 👍
the new belt you just put in the car is the same as mine. Same numbers and everything and btw my car is Citroen C3 2022. Also where did you buy it because its rare to find the same belt like this one cheers
I bought mine from a main dealer
@@maxautouk thanks for your answer, and just to know its the newest belt so in theory should last longer happy driving
They do seem to be better but they’re still notorious for random engine failure sadly
@@maxautouk why if you change it on time it would not, and how is yours by the way?
This car does not belong to me it is a customer car and we see dozens of these engines every year that required engine rebuilds due to snapped belts, this one was caught early but even the newer, apparently improved belts still wear prematurely and snap - in fact the car in the video despite only being a few years old is now on its third belt already trying to avoid a wrecked engine! unfortunately they are not very reliable engines
any idea where the cam sensor is on this engine,?
Not off the top of my head sorry
Can you fit crank seal before rather than after ?
You can but it’s possible it will get damaged when refitting the sprocket
Nice vid, but I'm not sure about the crank bolt torque, I see 20nm and 140 Deg, this could possibly be because new bolt has no pressed washer and slightly shorter, does anyone know for sure?
The torque yield is the 20nm which is the bolt tight, the 140 degrees is the calculation for the stretch in the thread profile of the bolt. When you turn it to 140 degrees it creates a spring tension by elongating the bolt stopping the vibrations of the engine working it loose!
These torque settings are from main dealer and apply to all different styles of bolt and washer according to them! 😁 be interested to hear others thoughts
Very good video, extremely clear on how to go about things. Cheers
Thanks!
I need a new cam belt fitting where are you based im Manchester side ?
Im currently based in northern ireland sorry
Cheers 🍻
Anytime
Thank u so much
No worries
Do you know what type of bridesmaid in this child is?
I’m not sure I know what you mean
Any engineer would know that crank bolt was tight enough at 90degrees after torque setting! No need for all that effort!
It is crazy tight!
And engineer would know that crank bolt was ample tight at90 degrees after torque s
helllo you can do with not the shimming tools . its really necessary
I would not personally attempt this job without the correct timing tools
@@maxautouk What is the risk
the pulleys didn't move because you made marks everywhere
@@alexandreryffen6983yes because the inlet VVT on mine locked up when rotating the engine by hand, you need to lock the camshafts to check the vvt is locked, if it isn’t locked and you fit the new belt you will fit it out of phase and it won’t run right - many people do this without tools and don’t have issues but if you have a vvt blocked with old bits of timing belt then it may not lock properly and won’t be in the correct position and you won’t realise it
You also won’t be able to tighten up the crankshaft bolt properly without locking the engine
The marks do matter
How so?
Great video, terrible cambelt that had deteriorated so badly by 42,000 miles. Concerning that the replacement belt is identical so in effect will also fray and block strainer and therefore not " fit for purpose "
Its hard to say exactly but around 10-15k. This belt that i fitted is already showing signs of wear. Very poor quality design!
that’s a professional job..not to try it for an amateur
Definitely not for the faint of heart! Thanks for the comment
I need mine doing this is the best video I've found thanks ,wish me luck 😅
@@aaronkitson3229 let me know how you get on!
There are plenty of non-professionals mechs in the world who are more than capable of replacing a timing belt especially on a pure-tech car, which is one of the easiest to do, but I can understand why professionals take a dim view of this. Btw I guess you replaced the crankshaft bolt as well as this is in the procedure (cannot reuse the old one)
@angturil Yes replacement bolts were used including the crankshaft bolt. I think it’s empowering for any diyer to do their own work or at least have a go 😄 but as a professional mechanic I have seen more than one or two cases of a timing belt gone wrong.. there are a few examples on the channel.. I would say this is a medium difficulty timing belt it’s certainly not one of the easiest when you compare to a D5 Volvo, or a G13BB Suzuki engine
Looking to buy a grandland like the car, but this is a very badly designed engine
Exellent!!👏👏👏
Thanks for the comment!