Undelivered Food Orders Pile Up, Sparking Debate on Tipping
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Is the tipping culture in America out of control? And do you tip before your food arrives?
A widely shared video appears to show food orders piling up after delivery drivers ignored them because there was no tip included.
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The people who did not tip already PAID FOR THEIR FOOD!!!
It amazes me how ignorant people are that tipping is 100-percent voluntary. I am not entitled to tip and you are not entitled to receive a tip. I don't give a flying f**k what your employer pays you as that is none of my concern. There is no legal obligation whatsoever in America to tip.
Yes Your right. That's why I BELIEVE it's Called. " GRATUITY
I agree just don't be surprised when you order food delivery from a certain app without tipping and you don't get your food..
They are pay 0$ its all tip pay so they dont gonna do it for free...
Tipping in ONLY acceptable AFTER the delivery or AFTER the service is provided. This whole tipping culture has gone out of control lately
Thats how you dont get your order..
you must be dumb or something.. drivers in food delivery service are independent contractors who have to use their own cars and pay for repairs and gas. For example you can get an order from Safeway and and get paid 10$ for driving 10 miles while it takes 20 minutes to drive to the remote location and 20 minutes to drive back into town plus the 6$ gallon of gas you had to spend with about a 20 mpg car so in reality you worked about 40 minutes and made 4$ even if you made 8$ in 1 hour that's still 9$ less than the minimum wage plus the repairs on your car and whatnot...
I agree with your statement, but this does not apply to a 3rd delivery service..
I don't tip on anything where people are already getting paid a full hourly wage. That's literally what tipping is supposed to be for: to make up for the fact that restaurant workers are paid sub-minimum wage. After that, it was for people who provide extra service. Tipping for counter service, to-go orders, and other positions where people are already getting paid for their jobs- and the only thing they're doing is their jobs, nothing more, is stupid. What NEEDS to happen is for people to put pressure on companies to pay their employees more. It's not our job to pay their workers for them. And if the service at a restaurant is bad, I don't tip at all.
Pick up the food? There's even an option to tip when you pick up your food. Yes this tipping thing has gotten out of control and it's only here. Do you know in Japan it's considered an insult to tip? And they look at it like wow do you think I need your hand out? In America they're like yes please give me your hand out lol. We have no pride in our country.
There would be no uber eats without tips. Base fares are only about $2-$4. If theres no tip, then most of the time the driver is wasting his time and money paying for his vehicle and gas while earning less than minimum wage.
@@E-BikingAdventures and nobody forces them to do that. That's a choice.
@@E-BikingAdventures Tipping is a tradition and there is no obligation or entitlement to tip or to receive a tip in America. What someone is paid is an issue between the employer and the employee. Learn the facts you POS.
@Liam Miller Then keep on waiting all night for cold food or food that's been "manipulated". Better yet, stop holding down the couch and go get it yourself.
@@Shadox66 that's not fair just because somebody doesn't tip or doesn't tip a lot they should get their food on time and not manipulated. All they're obligated to do is pay the amount shown
Maybe people don't pay the tip for the delivery is because by the time they get to the final payment it's 15 bucks for cheeseburger, then you got the service charge, delivery fee and fee fee plus taxes so now your at 26 bucks infor a cheeseburger and some fries now your suppose to add another 30% for a tip
If you can’t afford to have food delivered, don’t order it
@@timetowakeup6302 Nice comeback using everyone's famous ole tired line of if you can't afford something...Who said anything about can't afford...I can afford a 30 dollar cheeseburger if I wanted to but who tf would want to is the question. Which is why doordash and uber are unprofitable and have never made money.
One of the problems is people expect these types of jobs to be their primary source of income, they never were meant to be that! These are the 2nd job or the part-time or temporary job until you GRADUATE college and get your career going. If it's really that bad QUIT! The other problem is they can't get any other type of employment because they're uneducated and unskilled.
This is funny…. I have been in IT since 96.. educated and skilled, but due to a serious health condition I’m forced to try and make money in a job that allows me to take breaks as needed…. People with disabilities or social anxiety now have an ability to earn a little money and you blame choices? I drive a paid off 20204runner… you think it’s ok for me to spend my gas and time to deliver food 7 miles and not get paid? Or should I just go homeless and beg kfc for some chicken because you don’t think I should work DoorDash because I can’t afford to deliver food for free to someone…before any fkn troll comments, please be sure to understand the gig jobs and how they help people in need of an income… would you get in a taxi and demand a free ride, or tell taxi cab driver he should quit if he can’t take you somewhere for free..?
@@juniadventures yes lol. get a real job. losers you can work in metal industry and make nice money...
you must be dumb or something.. food delivery service drivers are independent contractors who have to use their own cars and pay for repairs and gas. For example you can get an order from Safeway and and get paid 10$ for driving 10 miles while it takes 20 minutes to drive to the remote location and 20 minutes to drive back into town plus the 6$ gallon of gas you had to spend with about a 20 mpg car so in reality you worked about 40 minutes and made 4$ even if you made 8$ in 1 hour that's still 9$ less than the minimum wage plus the repairs on your car and whatnot...
Many people should work on their skills and education, but to imply people are doing food delivery service cause they're uneducated and unskilled is an extremely ignorant assumption..
@@juniadventuresI think it's funny how dumb fools make statements like this while accepting mediocrity at their dead end trash jobs where they aren't accepted, respected, or even able to make a positive contribution to society (while keeping their freedoms intact)..
People just need to understand how food delivery service jobs work… it’s a dispatch system… the app sends you an offer, it will have the amt you will make.. then you decide if it’s worth your gas and time to drive to restaurant pickup food, then drive to destination.. so when you don’t tip the app is offering min payment of 2 dollars.. no one on earth wants to spend their gas and time for two bucks… especially someone like me who drives a gas guzzler. Lol.. if you tip 4 bucks, now that trip is a 6 dollar trip and it’s more likely someone will accept and deliver. :) back in my day I always tipped pizza delivery… I don’t understand how people don’t wanna tip for McDonald’s lol
Pizza is different though. The pizza parlor was making a solid effort to get the food to you as fast as possible. If the pizza came an hour after their estimate..... it could impact the tip. LOL doordash drivers want to take that off the table and dont want to be accountable to any baseline level of service because........They rely on the tip.
People are tipping more often and a higher percentage than ever before..... and ironically, the average quality of service is probably worse than its ever been before.
@@abprepboy33 this is all opinion based on your life experience and not on fact… example pizza delivery drivers worked at the restaurant and they had boundary limits. dd drivers have to spend time and gas to get to the restaurant before delivery.. I know people think that dashers are magically at McDonald’s when they order but that’s not the case… there’s also doubling up the order dd does… so yes dd tries to provide a level of service consistently but if you think you can order a meal and have it delivered for service fee only 2.50, then expect to wait or get it yourself
@@juniadventures thats an argument for drivers to present to doordash not the customer who just paid 40 dollars for 25 bucks worth of food. also please stop with trying to imploy social pressure to push people to tip. I never said I was anti tipping, but I dont think a doordash diver deserves a tip before even considering the order because his/her contracted agreement isnt lucrative enough. The customer didnt set the base pay or the compensation formula for dashers. If the dasher is willing to let doordash off the hook for screwing them over, they can let the customer off the hook to right?
@@abprepboy33 your confused.. dd is the middle man connecting people who want food delivered to independent contractors.. this is not an employee employer relationship. If the consumer wants delivery because of its convenience, they gotta pay or again, get off your couch and you drive to get your stuff. 😂 it’s not a restaurant waiter waitress agreement. No one is going to provide you with free service. Btw if you leave it up to dd to pay employees to deliver, either dd goes under or only super rich will get food delivered because they are just gonna take that employee paycheck right out of the food.. 30 dollar whoppers sounds great 😂
@@juniadventures dd is more than the middle man. they set the prices for the customer, they collect dash pass fees from the customer, they set the prices for the resturaunt and they set the compensation forumula for the drivers. And even without the tip- the customer is paying operation costs that have nothing to do with their food. Most customers are paying a monthly fee for dash pass as well. The fact that doordash isnt using that money to give dashers a decent pay rate should bother drivers more than the occasional customer who doesnt give a great tip
I thought it was called GRATUITY
The best service is when I pick up my own food I don’t ever used those apps
Why does that one lady keep saying that these drivers are working for free? They get a base pay. It's low, yes, but no one asking people to work for free.
Denying service because a customer didn't tip you in ANY other job will get you fired. Tipping is a reward NOT a requirement, if you aren't getting paid enough talk to your employer, or go find a different job. It is NOT the customers responsibility to make sure you're paid a fair wage, this is just common sense.
It’s the free market at play.
Your tip is the offered price for the gig. If it’s too high you are wasting money, if it’s too low no one is going to grab your delivery.
It’s a gig, not a job. There’s no hourly wage being given, and if your bid on the job is lower than $15/hr plus $1.30/mile then no one is going to take it.
The drivers aren’t getting fired because they are INDEPENDENT contractors. If you can’t afford to tip a delivery driver for the service then go pick up the food yourself it’s very simple
The best way to handle this is to start charging back against the restaurant who promised you the food. If it's late, cold, or in any other way unacceptable, then punish the restaurant. This will kick off a chain reaction that will eventually lead to punishment of the 3-party, delivery company, and, eventually, the drivers. Alternatively, customers can boycott delivery. This will immediately impact the drivers.
I guess you don't use Door Dash or Uber Eats. The base pay from the app for drivers isn't enough to even bother with the order. Only once there is a tip added to the order, the trip begins to look worth doing ! So, if you don't tip up front, your order may never get delivered. Eat shit and go get it yourself
It's not about the tip. Drivers are not going to go 5 to 10 miles and spend 20 mins to half an hour of their time and effort for $3.00.
OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE.
That's their company.
Kind of knew the pay before taking the job. If it does not work, there are options. AAA is usually hiring in most areas.
@@md-1 exactly. when you sign for the job that is exactly they are agreeing to do. What the panelists are forgetting is how the service works. How the food aggregator and delivery service works ?
Uber eats is not responsible for the food. It just lists the restaurant and there is the arrangement that they get the commission from the restaurant for the order and the delivery fee from the customer That is exactly what they are charging the customer and the restaurant for. To get the food delivered to their homes. To expect a tip is fine but not do the trips because of no tip is "cheating" the customer.
The African American lady just went on and on. Only the white guy Jeff made some good points.
Then they can get a better job
No no you chose your job. You knew what the pay was going into it. A tip is simply a reward for good service.
You wouldn't want to work delivering food is you are only getting $3.00 for a delivery.
@Liam Miller . I make good money accepting orders that pay well and declining orders that only pay $3.00. So it's not my problem. its your problem. You"re the ones complaining about paying tips.
@Liam Miller We'll see who's problem it is when you don't get your food delivered.
@@TheClassicalSauce Actually, it would fall back on the driver as it's poor business practices. I guarantee you a non-tipper can get that driver fired. You need to learn the f**king facts about tipping. Nobody is obligated to tip or to receive a tip in America. Facts! Prove me wrong and I will prove you how ignorant you are.
@Liam Miller Exactly! Thus is yet another example of the Gen zero age of un-accountability (aka: It's never my fault!).
If a non-negotiated sum of money is given for a service after that service is provided, then it is a tip.
If a non-negotiated sum of money is requested prior to service provision, then that is called a bribe.
This is extortion.
But people using their own car and gas should be tipped that same high tip they have to buy a new car if they wanna keep doing this job someday
My transmission went out at 100,000 miles less than a year of doing deliveries, I had to get another car.
why should people need to pay before rather after?
agreed- if you tip before hand.... isnt it more like a bribe? LOL what incentive is there for the driver to give good service if they already know what tip they are getting?
Cause companies are cheap to benefit the customer..
Does a prostitute put out and hope for the best after?
@@abprepboy33how do you feel when you work for free versus you know the person that needs the services respect you as a human being I grabbed napkins sauces everything I don't forget nothing cuz I'm happy to do it I move faster and everything naturally when I know I put my last in the tank my energy is gone I'm depressed and I know that I've agreed to take a cheapskate their food and I pull up to a big pretty house and usually the attitude matches the tip I'm trying to get in and out and make my little $5 I don't care what's going on I'm going to fulfill my part of the contract which is grab the bag and bring it to you I'm not smiling there's nothing to be happy about I'm miserable any other field I get it what is so hard to understand that you got to pay somebody to bring you your food in the middle of the night that wants to be at home in the bed just like you I can't even afford to eat out myself you people kill me
@@Jojoprodigy see i wouldnt call them a cheapskate..... they are paying a ihger price for each item, they are paying operation fees, they are either paying a monthly subscription OR a delivery fee. they are indeed paying both for the food and for the delivery (even without a tip). The fact that the contractor and doordash cant figure out how divide that payment so both y'all are happy shouldnt land on the customer.
Basically paying someone salary through tips? and they rage at customers not the business owners!
AGREE!
It's a platform, not an employer. As a consumer you are hiring an independent contractor to use their personal vehicle and pay for their own vehicle expenses and use their time to deliver your food in a hot bag. That is a service that is provided and you must pay the driver for that service. The pay provided is just enough to cover a driver's vehicle expenses so 95% or so of a driver's wage comes from tips. No tip no trip. We see the tip ahead of time to know if your offer is worth our time or not. If you don't care about your driver's time we don't care about your time and your food. You are becoming an employer yourself when you place an order. Just like posting a job for hire for someone to mow your lawn. You must pay them for that work. The delivery fee goes to the merchant mostly to prepare your food immediately and the driver just gets $3 of that. That $3 is for vehicle expenses. I don't work for free.
@@michaelhuebner6843 I’m glad you see it that way. Unfortunately, many people feel automatically entitled and could care less about the how system really works for as long as they get for what they paid for. I do not blame them but if they are completely unaware of how the system really works then they should not be complaining about the service that they are getting.
Employers need to pay their staff! Expecting customers to subsidize staff wages on top of the bill just exposes an employer as a scumbag who financially abuses their staff.
We don't tip bus drivers or store clerks or flight attendants. Aren't they providing a service? Why are restaurant workers so special? Plus, are these waiters who demand so much sympathy sharing their tips with the cooks and cleaners who do the hard work behind the scenes?
It’s not about being special first of all store clerks aren’t really providing you a service they just scan your items also you CAN tip bus drivers but people don’t like tipping cause they’re broke CLOWNS
Omg your a whole clown it’s not the same at all 😂
Exactly
Maybe people will disagree with me or maybe you will learn etiquette . If I order $40 of food I place a $10 tip before the driver picks it up . What that does is when ten drivers look at pending orders they fight to get it first because they know they just made a decent hours wage , and my food comes in ten minutes . When you leave no tip they have no clue if you will give them one and will let the order sit in the store and they will sit in their car and wait for another order like mine with a guaranteed tip . If you can’t wrap your head around this , then get your lazy butt up and pick up your own food . If you can’t afford to tip go to the supermarket and make your own food for the week . Spending money and helping others live a decent life is making the world go around . If you are cheap , then make your own food . Or place your order and wait two hours for someone willing to the roll the dice if you will tip them
How is it now in US? I'm gonna visit. In my country the app just has very high prices and drivers deliver everything on time without any tips. In fact, I can't even tip before they pick it up...
why dont people charge prices including workers wages? why are customers required to donate money to make up for stingy owners managers lack of empathy for their supposed employees? grow up america
No tip no trip. It pathetic these people don’t know that minimum wage in California is $20. These people are “whole clowns” 🤡 and paying a tip prior to services is provided? If you do that you’re a “whole clown”.
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The gas bag commentators virtue signaling and bloviating all the the biz words. Do you homework and leave your senseless opinions to……… uh, nobody.
This has only become a thing since people started taking useless college courses. When did people stop realizing these are entry level jobs that require zero skill and crap pay upon applying? A motivation to work hard and achieve more is what these jobs should again be viewed as. So your liberal arts/philosophy/archaeology degree isn’t as hot and in demand as you had hoped? You have not changed the world? Got a reality check and took a crap job. Expect us as a whole to pay your student debt and then, as customers, to double pay for your salary? How about all drivers quit or grow some nerve and strike for better pay. Delivery prices are already inflated by 25% in some cases. Organize a union, pay dues to hire someone to negotiate a split on delivery fees and revenue sharing. Either way, it’s not our problem. If you do not want to do the job for what you agreed, someone else will.
It's all about principles...I will not pay 4 to 7 dollars for a delivery fee then pay another 5 to 10 dollars for a tip...just for a 15 to 20 dollar meal...and wait 45mins ....to me that's a ripoff!
well in USA delivery apps are stupid, why the hell there is an option for tip. if someone wantss they will give at door. if someone dont want. you pay because comapny hire a person to deliver and someone ele pay. and you make profit where is delivery charges going. after your service chanrges. broke system
I have to tip ahead of time and it takes twice as long as it should for the delivery what is my avenue for redress
A tip can be to low for the merchant and/or the mileage needed to drive. Miles take time to drive and the more miles means the longer your delivery will take. Keep to this guideline and I promise you will get your food delivered in a timely fashion most times (sometimes there just isn't any drivers available): Never tip below $4, tip 15% on smaller orders but it's okay to tip 10% on orders over $100, never order from a restaurant more than 8 miles away from your location. Keep to these rules and your drivers will be very happy.
Punish the restaurant for sub-par service and it will trickle down to both the 3rd-party and their drivers. I've gotten plenty of free food because drivers didn't want to pick up my order.
Wrong! You are not getting free service! Those people get hire to do SAID job!!! Is not the customers job to pay your wages!
Why should I pay a delivery driver for the food that I already paid on the phone. That's the name of the company doordash, they deliver food to the customers. If they don't like what they doing they need to find a better job with better pay.
Customers are already paying MORE for their for when ordering delivery; if not then they should tip.
"No tip, no trip" is extortion, plain and simple
Pick up your own food
Wait wait wait... I don't get this panel. Are they not well traveled? Tipping is an American thing-other places have restaurants/delivery services/etc. The point is why not just tell me THE TOTAL COST UPFRONT instead of giving me a bill and then force me into uncomfortable position of deciding "how much your services are worth" on top of the cost? What's the point of the service fee charge? Increase that if you must to include the "tip". But I would so be glad to get rid of the stupid tip system.
What if you tip and your food still don’t come they will say it’s delivered and you never even received it.
Don't get it twisted, it's up to the owner to pay a livable wage and at minimum, minimum wage.
My opinion these delivery drivers need to get paid more by the company so they won't have to depend on tips.
Oh, and post-delivery tips and cash tips are virtually nonexistent.
Non tippers always give the same crap excuse to expect us drivers to accepts these orders- “it is your job”, “tip is only for good service”, “ask for a raise” and so forth. They know these companies will not increase the pay, and you got to be crazy if you expect me to accept a $2 order for a 5+ miles trip. It is a no brainer
This news segment is very short sighted for not even mentioning the low base fare for a delivery. To us drivers, it's not about the tip, it's about earning enough to pay our expenses and bills.
Well, you must be crazy Because you continue to participate in this corporate greed grab. It is not up to the customer to make your wage. You direct your resentment in the wrong direction. AND a tip should be a bonus, Not money to make up the difference in what should be your salary.
As long as other drivers continue to do this type of work, which is basically volunteer work for corporate greed, then it will continue. STOP participating!
@Liam Miller THIS !!!!!!
@Liam Miller Well, keep enjoying your late/cold orders then.
@@EricSPizarro right?
It’s gig work, if the payment offered isn’t high enough to warrant the job then no one is going to take the job.
I don’t do Uber eats or the like, but it’s easy to see how these deliveries work.
Tips are paid after the service is rendered. Not before. If my food arrives cold. No tip.
one reason to cook at home also to travel to asia europe africa to avoid usa like the plague
just trying to scare people to leave a tip
0:53 This exactly how Doordash and Ubereats works........ they are an outsourced delivery service for the service industry.
Don't Uber and Lyft pay delivery drivers already? They're not doing it for free.
the drivers want more..... but LOL if you asked most employees... im sure theyd prefer to get paid more.
It’s a certain… *kind* of people that don’t tip… 👀
Sorry... get a better job, food delivery people.
ZERO tip
I watch the employees at my local 7-11 struggle to fill a constant flow of doordash orders while also checking out a steady flow of a long line of customers, cooking the hot food, keeping the supplies stocked, etc. I know for sure that they have fallen behind on their cleaning and sanitizing tasks and it’s no wonder why. The soda from the fountain tastes awful. Not to mention that in the last year or so…the theft from these very bold thieves has increased dramatically. Do they get a tip? I’ve never seen it happen. How does that seem fair? The driver would have nothing ready to pick up if not for that 7-11 employee. They shopped for you & bagged it up which is also a provided service for you.
Because they get a salary already negotiated.. dashers are self contractors who have to spend their time and gas just to get to 7-11 then deliver it most times miles away..that’s why you tip dashers for that service.
drivers should disclose fees beforehand not relying on donations
also customers wages dont have money to donate
I'm not going to lie, I've done tip baiting before. That's because people are greedy. They don't want to deliver your food for a reasonable tip they want it to be an extravagant tip.$20 becomes $2 really fast lol.
English please, thank you! 🤣🤣🤣
I considered this once I found out about it. But then I'd be just as bad as the drivers. So I just cut the delivery part out since they can't be counted on.
I work in customer service I help people I talk to people all day and I don’t get tips because my job doesn’t suck
I will give those ladies a tip alright
He said 30%. insaine
If you want a tip up front before performing a service, call it a service fee and charge a flat rate. Tips are for above and beyond service. Why should I tip the cashier for handling me a sack of food?
People not tipping are punishing drivers for corporate greed. That is why there is resentment between the 2 groups.
🙂
I have never used Uber or Door Dash.
I will never pay all those extra fees because of laziness.
Laziness costs money.
The best tip is cash. Tip 5.00=6.25 when it bypasses the government.
Drivers rarely get a cash tip and it’s not worth the risk to even take a low paying order.
@@jessr8002 That and the note about the customer is leaving a cash tip never appears until the driver accepts the order. so until then the order is showing a low pay nobody would accept
Frozen pizzas on the aisle cause prices to go up and employees wages to go down
Your order simply won’t get delivered, if it is, it will be jelled by the time you receive it! 😂😂😂
Then the customer will get a refund and the driver will get so many bad reviews that he more than likely won't be able to make a living or be fired. That's the beauty about tipping in America as you're not obligated to tip and no one is ever obligated to receive a tip. There is absolutely no entitlement to get a tip. Learn the facts!
@@jamesm568
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@timetowakeup6302 LMFAO! I get servers fired all the time that confront me about a tip. There is no law that says you're obligated to tip in America period. Delivery drivers have no right to a tip whatsoever and there is no law that backs them up either. Tipping is completely a 100% voluntary system in America. Learn the facts!
@@timetowakeup6302Actually that poster is correct. I've gotten a lot of free food because of lazy drivers. The apps give delivery estimates. If the delivery is too late, then customers can complain to the restaurant to get deep discounts and even free food plus coupons for another order. This is the way. Hopefully, this will happen enough to get the 3rd-party companies in plenty of trouble with their client restaurants. The drivers may not owe anything to the customer, but the restaurant and 3rd-party company have made a promise. The customer can punish those entities and eventually it will trickle down to the drivers. It just takes both time and enough customers to speak up.
@@jamesm568good, nobody should be confronting anybody about a tip. But you clearly don't know what your talking about when it comes to delivery service.. drivers in food delivery service are independent contractors who have to use their own cars and pay for repairs and gas. For example you can get an order from Safeway and and get paid 10$ for driving 10 miles while it takes 20 minutes to drive to the remote location and 20 minutes to drive back into town plus the 6$ gallon of gas you had to spend with about a 20 mpg car so in reality you worked about 40 minutes and made 4$ even if you made 8$ in 1 hour that's still 9$ less than the minimum wage plus the repairs on your car and whatnot...
Nice! No tip, no trip biotches! 🤣🤣🤣
It’s basic entry level work. The least skilled person in most rooms can bring something from A to B. I’d rather tip the cook that labored to create the meal.
No shoes no shirt no problem
Aren’t they paid to deliver?
Very little pay, example some orders with no tips can be $3.75 and the mileage can be 7 miles one way, you end up driving 14 round trip for $3.75, plus you end up spending approximately 30-40 minutes on order between the pick up & drive & drop off, so in essence you're getting $3.75 for at least a half hour's work, but you're also paying for the gas because most vehicles like mine get about 18 to 20 miles a gallon... that 14 miles is going to take just about a gallon and so I might be making $.75 to a dollar for that half hours time and effort and my gas cost,... not including the wear and tear on your vehicle of 300 to 500 miles per week that I put on my vehicle dashing.
@@jeffparkinson5005 Then I would say if EVERYONE stopped doing this type of work,..like go on strike,…then they would need to improve the pay. I agree you are basically doing volunteer work for the benefit of the restaurant.
So every job should get a tip? Nah I got a tip for those ladies
Instacart workers are cracking down on tip baiting
Food delivery pays 2.50 avg. and 99% of people don’t tip after!!! I’ve done 1500 deliveries only 20 have tip after. Tip is for advanced food service. He’s right pay these drivers better. 60% of orders don’t get picked up
So why don't they get a different job? These are transient, part-time or second jobs as they were meant to be! You don't have a job like this as your primary source of income. This is the job you have while you work on that Masters in Engineering, like i did.
I'm not tipping before I receive good service. And I'm not bribing someone to get the food that both the restaurant and the 3rd-party company promised me. I've gotten a lot of free food because of lazy delivery drivers. I give my thanks to them.
@@cr2lives Oy Vey!!
@@kendallevans4079 I can understand how my statement may sound. However, tips are given as gratitude for good service once that service is provided, not before.
@@kendallevans4079cause most people actually tip.. and why tf would someone do side work for half the minimum wage..?
They deserve exactly the same tip I would have given a Chinese food delivery driver in the past -- $2. They do nothing to deserve the same tips that a waiter/waitress would get because the services are not even remotely similar.
Cheap skate
@@timetowakeup6302 Since when does a delivery driver deserve a larger tip than a waiter or waitress? If someone brings me Chik Fil A from a mile down the road, why do they deserve a 25% tip? It's not being cheap to acknowledge that. As someone who works in tax consulting, why should I not get tipped every time I do your taxes? I am more underpaid than the guy delivering McDonalds is, where do you draw the line? Are YOU a cheap skate?
@@GbawlZ
Delivery drivers are using their own vehicle. It’s their own gas, their own maintenance. They are getting screwed by the platform service (door dash, ubereats, etc), hardly making $3 before gratuity....they LIVE off tips, end of story. If you can’t afford to tip your DELIVERY driver then don’t order DELIVERY. Simple
@@timetowakeup6302 You need to stop confessing that you 're a delivery driver, it's embarrassing. I can afford to do whatever I want, I make 6 figures with no kids in my 20s, you have no idea what you're talking about. I have never not tipped a delivery driver, but they're not getting anywhere near the same tip percentage that I would tip a waiter/waitress, or any job that actually involves work. Poor baby, I don't care how clean your car is, how you use your own gas (boo hoo!), or anything else that you agreed to do as a prerequisite to being hired as a DoorDasher. It sounds to me like YOU are the poor one trying to gaslight others about tipping on a UA-cam video, lmao. Sucks to suck, please don't be driving distracted because you might hurt yourself or others! Save your hate mail for after you clock out of the app for the night, buddy.
@@timetowakeup6302 I hate this type of argument. Its lazy and unproductive. 1) Just because a dasher is "getting screwed" does not mean their service on a particular order justifies a tip higher than the waiter who checked on me 3 times, explained the appetizer size chart, and took back my desert because my cheese cake wasnt cold enough.
2) a tip is a reward for good service. The entitlement of saying tip me or dont order delivery.
3) Why is the person paying $30 bucks for $17-18 worth of food the bad guy, and the company exploiting the drivers by paying $11-12 for the food and paying the driver 2.25 while collecting $ 30 somehow left off the hook. Drivers are getting screwed, resturaunts are getting screwed, customers are getting screwed- the only ones getting a good deal out of this is doordash.
There already is a delivery fee, so the anger needs to be at the greedy company owners. It IS built in in the delivery fee
I wouldn't even move my vehicle unless I seen what I was getting tip wise. If you don't tip, you are a miserable person who deserves to get cold food!
Then get a new job
One or two times it felt awkward but now I developed a thick skin. It’s your job toh deliver , you signed up for it. It is not my responsibility to pay tip. My boss or my firm does not tip me if I make a good presentation or bring him a coffee on a good day. Seriously it has reached to a point where it seems like begging instead of tips. Judge me for anything I don’t care
you sound dum.. drivers in food delivery service are independent contractors who have to use their own cars and pay for repairs and gas. For example you can get an order from Safeway and and get paid 10$ for driving 10 miles while it takes 20 minutes to drive to the remote location and 20 minutes to drive back into town plus the 6$ gallon of gas you had to spend with about a 20 mpg car so in reality you worked about 40 minutes and made 4$ even if you made 8$ in 1 hour that's still 9$ less than the minimum wage plus the repairs on your car and whatnot...
If your getting paid an hourly wage why would you expect a tip from your boss for carrying a cup of coffee?
I'll pay what the receipt says. If the service is over the expected I might tip. Deliveries inflate the prices and add a delivery fee, I'm paying for the service of having it brought to me.
It's clear you don't understand how food delivery apps work. The delivery fees are the fees food delivery apps charge restaurants for providing them with the service of having food delivered from their restaurants, and the service fees are for operational costs. The delivery drivers DO NOT receive a percentage of any of those fees, so that's why it's important that customers tip. They incur expenses by burning fuel to drive to customers' locations as well as wear and tear on their vehicles.
@@CoolBreeze250 The drivers should be getting a salary like the old minimum wage or the new 15 $/h. Tips are for going above and beyond. If they are not then it’s the fault of the delivery apps, pay your workers a fair wage.
@@lkjhoiuy97yjhgghfyrthgvjhguty What's considered "going above and beyond?" We get tipped for delivering your food in a safe and timely fashion. That's our job. While I do agree that the company should pay us a little more per delivery, you must understand that we're not employees. We're independent contractors who don't have the same rights and protections as employees.
@@CoolBreeze250 I would say that it is doing more than the job entails. Doing things that the customer enjoys or like but that the job does not require. Like a hairdresser that basically acts as shrink, listening to customer’s day or problems. For delivery there might not be any things customers cares about other than safe and timely. The delivery apps should raise prices and provide better rights and benefits, or convert it to full time employees
@@lkjhoiuy97yjhgghfyrthgvjhguty Shoulda coulda. Tip or no trip. Plenty of people who tip and get their food hot and fast. Don't need you.
i tip $1000 every order and i order 8 times a day
Having someone deliver your food is a luxury, if you can’t afford or are unwilling to tip then pick it up at the restaurant.
Edit: but it is strange to tip before you receive any service especially when the food can show up cold.
Driver pay averages around $3 per order. That $3 is mainly used for the driver's gas, maintenance, and repair expenses on their vehicle. The tip is the driver's wage essentially. If you don't tip you are not paying the driver anything to deliver your food. The apps are too embarrassed to explain this so they are hoping you guys learn about this from drivers like myself. You are welcome. BTW the reason the delivery apps are losing money is due to the business model they created of paying merchants for 100% of orders placed regardless if they get delivered or not. So when a customer gets a refund they are actually losing money because they had to pay the merchant for the food that got thrown away. Also sometimes driver pay and the customer tip is also paid if a driver delivers cold food. This is why the delivery fees keep getting higher. Driver pay is too low and since we are independent contractors they have to show us the pay upfront so we know if the offer is worth our time or not. We know if you tip and if you don't we ignore your order.
@Liam Miller Very true. I have some sympathy for people in low-wage jobs. But they need to demand raises or unionize or something. Workers should not have to beg from customers and customers are not social workers.
I stopped tipping before because I'd get terrible delivery service. I then left notes that I'd tip upon delivery. Given this video, I'm sure you figured out how that went. So I stopped ordering delivery altogether. 3rd-party delivery is a trash system. The 3rd-party, contractor aspect has removed accountability from the driver - the main component in the service being labeled "delivery."
Drivers don't trust getting tipped after service because they might get stiffed.
Customers don't want to tip before service because many of us have received crap service after pre-tipping.
Before 3rd-party delivery, there was accountability held against the driver because she or he worked for the restaurant. Now they are not accountable.
It's a stalemate.
Customers should just boycott 3rd-party delivery and destroy their market. The drivers can then find something else to do.
Why can't I just pay the delivery fee?
@@voxer99drivers don't need to unionize or beg, if you don't tip they'll just go to the next order..
Yeah but, what about the responsibility of the driver to the company preparing the food?!
What are you talking about? I will explain it very simple how it works. DD, GH and UE are just platforms. Platforms like Indeed, EBay, Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, the local Sunday newspaper, etc. The platforms these companies created is for consumers to hire drivers to deliver them goods (mainly food). The customer places a job post when they order delivery and the customer is responsible to pay the driver for their time to deliver the product. The platforms does pay the driver just enough to cover a driver's vehicle operating expenses but nothing more (base pay average around $3 per delivery for drivers). Partner merchants get paid for 100% of orders placed by the customer regardless if the order gets delivered or not by the platform app. They are paid because they are supposed to prepare the order immediately so the driver has little to no wait when the order is ready for pick up. Whenever a customer is refunded the delivery company loses tons of money because they gave all the customer's money back and had to pay the merchant for the food that was thrown away. There are TOO MANY REFUNDS. That is why drivers pay keeps going down and why customer delivery fees keep getting higher. Too many customers don't tip and this causes the delivery companies to lose millions of Dollars per year in revenue and why they all are losing money operationally. There is no simple solution to this problem. Making all parties aware how the platform works is the only hope the delivery companies have until they all go bankrupt. The business model is broken and doesn't work. You can't pay merchants for 100% of orders and then have customers choose to pay the driver or not to deliver it. This is what the problem is and it will never go away unless this becomes vast public knowledge.
@@michaelhuebner6843 you didn't explain it