I just wish Hunters had the same available to them as melee do. So many +Strength buffs out there (where's all the +Agi), not to mention the melee haste benefits from Warchief's Blessing, then you factor in temporary enchants to melee weapons, while hunters get jack s*** for ranged weapons. Then there's the Frenzy uptime for Warriors vs the rng nightmare that can be the Improved Aspect of the Hawk, and the least said about the ridiculous 5-minute CD of Rapid Fire the better. Then there's pet management and, while not difficult for higher end players, it'd just been nice to see the AoE damage reduction in Classic that we have now in retail for Hunter pets. Would've been a nice quality of life improvement. Melee weaving is a blast, I thoroughly enjoy it; however, it's just sad that we had to get this creative just to scratch the surface of our potential ceiling. It's not that we do bad damage by default, it's the effectiveness of our toolkit that is lacking for hunter and the number of available and impactful buffs to us that make our damage less desirable than Warriors/Rogues. I mean seriously Blizzard, +9 Str to Bracers enchant, but the best we can do is a measly +1 Agi? Our +10 Agi food is seasonal, while Warriors get +20 Str year around? While we can use Juju's Might for +40 RAP, Warriors/Rogues can double dip with Juju's Power and gain another +30 Str (Winterfall Firewater for another +35 Melee AP), while we get diddly squat. Our best ammunition isn't even viably available to us, unless we sink dozens of hours into farming it in a dungeon, even if soloable, all a Warrior has to do is get a single weapon for a massive DPS increase and never looks back. There's a lot of reasons that Hunters could improve baseline, with just some minor tweaks. I'd love to see Squid be year around, and now increase Agility by 20. A nice 30-minute enchant to our xBow that explodes on impact and does an additional 20% weapon damage would be dope. Warchief's Blessing now buffing our Ranged Attack speed by 15%. Getting a fat +9 Agi enchant for the Bracers would be lovely. Then also, reduce AoE damage taken by pets by 90% and also change Improved Aspect of the Hawk to just be a raw DPS increase, as opposed to a random RNG proc. Then, last but certainly not the least, allow casting on the move. Thus, allowing us to Melee weave and shoot on the run without the potential loss in DPS should our raid decide to move bosses randomly. Just some thoughts.
Nice to see your still active man and doing okay, appreciate all the work you put in on your channel. I agree with a few of these points, could you throw an invite to the Trueshot Brigade please? All links I come across are unfortunately expired now.
Love this, keep it up. I've been melee weaving for most of phase 3 and 4 and find it challenging but rewarding. Unfortunately I'm currently using Lok'delar, but still consistently getting top dps on the bosses I manage to weave on. It is easy to stuff up, but when I do I still don't drop off the meter, just might not parse 95+ my biggest issue is if a raptor takes too long and I run out without it going off, I run in too early and clip a auto or when I return I am slightly too close or facing the the wrong way. With practise I'm stuffing up less often and reaping sick dps for my efforts.
@@Rikerslash Movespeed bonuses don't stack, so the zanza is giving you 20% speed instead of the 10% you'd already have with the world buff (or 8% if you just had boot enchant). The zanzas do not stack with any blasted lands buff. Swiftness zanza and scorpok assay are both viable choices, I'd say it's down to preference.
its not being upset about how he chooses to play, they're upset about people giving prio on hunters on ashkandi over warriors claiming PvE prio since its one of the best PvP weapons if not the best outside r14.
@@Ekt3lion why would warriors get prio on it for pve? It sure as hell aint their BIS, and it never was. As far as im concerned, warriors thinking asscandy is prio for them for pve, are a far grater meme than melee weaving was ever said to be.
I literally get spit / flamed by any random guild dude on my server for having Ash as hunter. Thanks to my guild who gave me the option for using it on melee weaving in our raids.
im not a hunter and i dont know about hunters, but was your idea of the video to showcase all that micro to do 2 more dps than kreelix? looking at 11:28
My server was a bit late to open the gates, so me and my guild are still figuring out how to optimize the fights in AQ. This is the first time we had DMF for AQ on my server and I got a good parse but not quite #1 world (currently #25). People have been taking notes though and there are many other melee weavers up at the top. I don't know when I'll make another video like this, but feel free to watch the unedited VODs on my twitch in the meantime.
@@skinnay_ ah word, well I look forward to it. I got 2nd on twins no world buff but dropped to 7th *chumpys* - I was thinking that would be a solid fight to melee weave on, however it's really tight with Mana, def need 100% efficiency with runes and majors. One last question, when you go for melee weaving parses, do you spec into survival for the crit % or do you keep 20 points in beast.
"they must be pretty bored if they're doing that" uhhh yes? vanilla raiding is pretty easy? why not spice it up? what was that redditors point? I mean fury warriors don't ~need~ to toggle either but vanilla rotations are pretty easy already so why not try to up your game? make the game a bit more interesting
Awesome video, will try to incorporate melee weaving more often! Additionally - somewhat of an unrelated question - what's the macro to you use to switch between Trinkets? I have the addon that shows the worn trinkets, but I noticed you clicked on the trinket emblem all the way to the right and it alternates to whichever you don't have equipped.
I highly doubt it. got to admit, I havent tried it, but definitely will, just to see. but seriously.. Arcane shot's base dmg is so low that I have a hard time believing that it will be worth it even with arcane vulnerability
I have used it on arcane vuln drakanoids from time to time. You are lucky to get a 4 digit crit, so def not worth it. I have started messing with Volley instead, but volley on a boss would push other shots.
@@mikomido20 i generally swap to arcane shot on arcane vuln mobs and chromagus, on the draconids i hit for about 5-700, on chrom its 7-1400 so its worth it over aimed during arcane phases... imho
dude nice job, haters always gonna hate. But parses in the majority of cases depend on the boss death time. Personally my guild struggles a bit, for instance it takes us about 50 sec to kill vael hense my dps on sec 26 differs a lot from dps on sec 50
was also confused about the point of the video if we cant see the numbers at the screen besides the parses that we can look up ourselves. But the rest was nice :D
@@Imlardirion Did you just ask what is the point of the video because you can see dps from the logs? Surely logs mean that there would be no point in having the dps meter.
Because people are stupid and will say "Look you can't best warriors and rogues" and completely miss the point. You don't compare hunter dps with rogues or warriors, you compare dps within your class. Every class has their own limit.
@@DiamondTear yeah I mean.. besides the melee weaving the interesting point of the video for me was the comparison to other dps , because idgaf about being either 98% or 99% since i wont reach this parse anyway with my skill - but its interesting to see if there are people out there who can compete with the rogues and warrior who deal over 1k dps. - so that was a bit disappointing to see a frozen dps meter ^^
I thought everyone knew about melee weaving since launch basically..? I swear people even made videos on it being good. So odd. I guess it's better this tier though.
@@Nate1The1Great1 Lazy, or their guilds flat out refuse to let them have Zin rokh or asscandy, because "reasons" and because by their logic, those weapons are better off sitting in the tanks' bags, never to be used, because "warrior! hurr durr!"
So, you've basically got top crossbow + top 2hander to do top5 at best in a shitty guild? While requiring debuff slot for hunter's mark and fear ward and never tranqing. Any good fury war with dalrends would do a better damage.
You can also clear all current content with meme spec dps. This content is for fun, top dps spec is irrelevant. Also, this dudes consistently top for his class. Where the fuck are you? Let me guess...your one of "your" guilds "top" dps...Have fun rolling hunter or warlock in TBC.
you can clearly see in his logs, he actually is using tranq shot, and you see it in the video. why wouldnt you use fear ward, if you had it available? hes also using a blue weapon (gri'leks axe)for his 2 hander, not askandi? none of your complaints are valid...
More power to you that want to melee-weave, but I have zero interest in it personaly. I already have six 99% parses out of 8 bosses without melee-weaving. But it's cool to see the amount of work that goes into it.
99% parses is not the goal and the final stage, you can have 120% in reality like him. 1% parse is equal to 10 points, and when you see 120 points on ebonroc by Skinnay, it's equal to 120% parses. But if your goal is just the 99% display GG
The only difference between the two is AOE damage to nefarian skeletons, which has nothing to do with the difference between melee weaving and normal rotation. Also, the Warcraftlogs community and administration decided that damage to bosses was the appropriate default metric for BWL, and rolled out that change, but had to revert it only due to technical issues.
@@skinnay_ Yea I ultimately I agree with you. I double checked Kreelix's #s and the other 4 above you and it's legitimately just an explosive trap and a sapper. All my 99s as a Rogue on Nef come down to how hard my sapper hits. 28k? 99 parse. I'm surprised they didn't take this approach on a few MC bosses as well.
Hunters are so insanely lazy or bad. Years later its SoD now and people still refuse to melee weave. Made my first hunter in sod and the skill ceiling it has made it my favourite instantly. Fuck the lazy people i guess
Joel Bourquin Dude's got a point. I would highly doubt even 80% of the hunter community (or any class-player base) is even competent enough to pull off the rotation effectively.
Well, the video wasn't about melee weaving making hunters beat the brown tide. It was about the viability of melee weaving and the fact that, mathematically, it's a dps increase if it's a fight where you can pull it off. And at the time of the raid in the video, this dude was the no. 1 hunter in the world. Edit: Also just had a look, all the top hunters in the world in Naxx are melee weaving.
Congrats on proving false positives. Hundreds of higher parsing hunters on specific fights disagree that melee weaving is necessary to parse at the highest level for a hunter. You proving you do well doesnt prove that melee weaving is the reason you perform at the level you do. Your ebonroc had ZERO dodges, 80% multishot critrate, and you use a 2hander that just about no one has farmed. Keep acting like melee weaving is the reason for that parse.
@@nhymz It''s like using a lower dps weapon but playing the class better than another person, and claiming the inferior weapon is better just because you did more damage. He's an amazing hunter, thats a given, but that alone doesn't prove he's doing the damage he's doing because he's melee weaving. He just wants to be controversial. Its working, I know who he is and Im here giving him views and not the other 300 hunters who beat him on razorgore.
As someone who plays hunter Im impressed with your performance and the video is overall enjoyable. However, these constant overlays of people questioning melee weaving is annoying. We get it, a lot of people didnt think it was doable / efficient. No need for 10+ overlays, its disruptive and comes off as too much self-praise.
![Warrior One Shot [Slam is BROKEN]](/img/n.gif)
Thanks for the laugh ^^ And thanks for always being nice and helpful on the hunter discord. And the great work on the gear guide!
Appreciate the guides you do and post on the hunter discord very helpful and quick to answer questions!
levophed loves you!!!
Kinda wish you had DPS meter on current fight during the BWL
They didnt want to show that the number 1 hunter parse is lower than a 30th percentile mage lol
@@SuperNuclearHamster He's actually outdpsing the 99%ile mages on every fight except chromaggus when they have frost/fire vulnerability
@@SuperNuclearHamster Well according to the log that you can click and look at, that's untrue.
I linked the raid log in the video description where you can see the DPS and many more details. Hope this helps.
@@skinnay_ hey yea, I went through the logs but seeing the dmg in real time would have created a more montage feeling you know :)
Very rare to find a Eric B. & Rakim fan on YT. Nice choice with "Follow The Leader" there.
Watch folk laugh when you failing but hate when you shining. They can't take it because the shadow is too cold.
Keep doin you bro, fun to watch.
I just wish Hunters had the same available to them as melee do. So many +Strength buffs out there (where's all the +Agi), not to mention the melee haste benefits from Warchief's Blessing, then you factor in temporary enchants to melee weapons, while hunters get jack s*** for ranged weapons. Then there's the Frenzy uptime for Warriors vs the rng nightmare that can be the Improved Aspect of the Hawk, and the least said about the ridiculous 5-minute CD of Rapid Fire the better. Then there's pet management and, while not difficult for higher end players, it'd just been nice to see the AoE damage reduction in Classic that we have now in retail for Hunter pets. Would've been a nice quality of life improvement. Melee weaving is a blast, I thoroughly enjoy it; however, it's just sad that we had to get this creative just to scratch the surface of our potential ceiling. It's not that we do bad damage by default, it's the effectiveness of our toolkit that is lacking for hunter and the number of available and impactful buffs to us that make our damage less desirable than Warriors/Rogues.
I mean seriously Blizzard, +9 Str to Bracers enchant, but the best we can do is a measly +1 Agi? Our +10 Agi food is seasonal, while Warriors get +20 Str year around? While we can use Juju's Might for +40 RAP, Warriors/Rogues can double dip with Juju's Power and gain another +30 Str (Winterfall Firewater for another +35 Melee AP), while we get diddly squat. Our best ammunition isn't even viably available to us, unless we sink dozens of hours into farming it in a dungeon, even if soloable, all a Warrior has to do is get a single weapon for a massive DPS increase and never looks back. There's a lot of reasons that Hunters could improve baseline, with just some minor tweaks.
I'd love to see Squid be year around, and now increase Agility by 20. A nice 30-minute enchant to our xBow that explodes on impact and does an additional 20% weapon damage would be dope. Warchief's Blessing now buffing our Ranged Attack speed by 15%. Getting a fat +9 Agi enchant for the Bracers would be lovely. Then also, reduce AoE damage taken by pets by 90% and also change Improved Aspect of the Hawk to just be a raw DPS increase, as opposed to a random RNG proc. Then, last but certainly not the least, allow casting on the move. Thus, allowing us to Melee weave and shoot on the run without the potential loss in DPS should our raid decide to move bosses randomly. Just some thoughts.
Nice to see your still active man and doing okay, appreciate all the work you put in on your channel. I agree with a few of these points, could you throw an invite to the Trueshot Brigade please? All links I come across are unfortunately expired now.
Bro you slam dunked on so many people, truly amazing what you did here.
It would be useful if you had a working DPS meter while "showcasing" melee weaving...
You can see it update after the boss dies and combat ends, but yeah it would be better to be on current fight.
Logs are linked in the description
in ur dps meter if u click in the little sword then go to custom, u can see the bottom option is dynamic overall dmg
Love this, keep it up. I've been melee weaving for most of phase 3 and 4 and find it challenging but rewarding. Unfortunately I'm currently using Lok'delar, but still consistently getting top dps on the bosses I manage to weave on. It is easy to stuff up, but when I do I still don't drop off the meter, just might not parse 95+ my biggest issue is if a raptor takes too long and I run out without it going off, I run in too early and clip a auto or when I return I am slightly too close or facing the the wrong way. With practise I'm stuffing up less often and reaping sick dps for my efforts.
What is the yellow pot which he has for 2 hours. I can not find an item with that color other than Purification Potion
swiftness of zanza
@@skinnay_ How is the interaction between swiftness of Zanza, Hakkar Buff and Skorpok Blaster Lands Buff, regarding Stacking
@@Rikerslash Movespeed bonuses don't stack, so the zanza is giving you 20% speed instead of the 10% you'd already have with the world buff (or 8% if you just had boot enchant). The zanzas do not stack with any blasted lands buff. Swiftness zanza and scorpok assay are both viable choices, I'd say it's down to preference.
Man I love your UI setup :p you dont happen to have a wtf folder available?
why is everyone here so upset about how he chooses to play? lmfao
expecially since he is choosing to play the right way.
its not being upset about how he chooses to play, they're upset about people giving prio on hunters on ashkandi over warriors claiming PvE prio since its one of the best PvP weapons if not the best outside r14.
@@Ekt3lion why would warriors get prio on it for pve? It sure as hell aint their BIS, and it never was. As far as im concerned, warriors thinking asscandy is prio for them for pve, are a far grater meme than melee weaving was ever said to be.
I literally get spit / flamed by any random guild dude on my server for having Ash as hunter. Thanks to my guild who gave me the option for using it on melee weaving in our raids.
im not a hunter and i dont know about hunters, but was your idea of the video to showcase all that micro to do 2 more dps than kreelix? looking at 11:28
all else is not equal
update: kreelix's logs have been disqualified for doing cheesy bullshit :)
Excellent choice of soundtrack
Ey Skinny!
whats the name of the mod that tracks your distance? :) "Melee, Zone, Range"
I need to know it too
it's a weak aura called Rubots Hunter RangeCheck classic
what action bar and unit frame addons do you run?
Yo man, 3 months ago you gave us this amazing showcase video but where have you been since! I personally would love to see an aq video.
My server was a bit late to open the gates, so me and my guild are still figuring out how to optimize the fights in AQ. This is the first time we had DMF for AQ on my server and I got a good parse but not quite #1 world (currently #25). People have been taking notes though and there are many other melee weavers up at the top.
I don't know when I'll make another video like this, but feel free to watch the unedited VODs on my twitch in the meantime.
@@skinnay_ ah word, well I look forward to it. I got 2nd on twins no world buff but dropped to 7th *chumpys* - I was thinking that would be a solid fight to melee weave on, however it's really tight with Mana, def need 100% efficiency with runes and majors. One last question, when you go for melee weaving parses, do you spec into survival for the crit % or do you keep 20 points in beast.
@@croszdrop1 Because the monster slaying talent doesn't work in AQ, i went 20 into BM and dropped savage strikes.
What addon are you using for buff timers? Love the video!
I got ashkandi, but we are 3 hunters and have never seen a xbow since BWL launched...
Still one of my favorite videos from classic, fuckin legend
"they must be pretty bored if they're doing that" uhhh yes? vanilla raiding is pretty easy? why not spice it up? what was that redditors point?
I mean fury warriors don't ~need~ to toggle either but vanilla rotations are pretty easy already so why not try to up your game? make the game a bit more interesting
the classic wow subreddit is not a very bright place
love how it was a warlock who said that too
great vid, Q: does bot works in combat? and, is it hid for a reason? or it has to be losing boss?
The Chad hunter King ahead of the plebs
Had to check this shit out while waiting to get to weave again in SoD : )
Crazy how many people get salty over different ways to play the game. Keep on trucking and fucking.
do u just stay in cheetah the whole time?
Hunter god in action.
Awesome video, will try to incorporate melee weaving more often! Additionally - somewhat of an unrelated question - what's the macro to you use to switch between Trinkets? I have the addon that shows the worn trinkets, but I noticed you clicked on the trinket emblem all the way to the right and it alternates to whichever you don't have equipped.
very inspiring, thank you!
lol, I love it. We need more people advocating for melee weaving.
what is addon displaying range/distance from target?
I am interested in this also
and a Quick google answered it :)
WeakAura: wago.io/f6uD_aQRN
Gotta show this to my guild so my tank stops deadzone cucking me
also is arcane shot still not worth it even with arcane vulnerability?
I highly doubt it. got to admit, I havent tried it, but definitely will, just to see. but seriously.. Arcane shot's base dmg is so low that I have a hard time believing that it will be worth it even with arcane vulnerability
it really isn't
I have used it on arcane vuln drakanoids from time to time. You are lucky to get a 4 digit crit, so def not worth it. I have started messing with Volley instead, but volley on a boss would push other shots.
@@Dashwsk oooff
@@mikomido20 i generally swap to arcane shot on arcane vuln mobs and chromagus, on the draconids i hit for about 5-700, on chrom its 7-1400 so its worth it over aimed during arcane phases... imho
dude nice job, haters always gonna hate. But parses in the majority of cases depend on the boss death time. Personally my guild struggles a bit, for instance it takes us about 50 sec to kill vael hense my dps on sec 26 differs a lot from dps on sec 50
While that is true, these logs are from 40 minute runs, nothing you'd consider incredibly fast, these days.
why are you making a video showing off your hunter dps in bwl with a broken/frozen dps meter?
was also confused about the point of the video if we cant see the numbers at the screen besides the parses that we can look up ourselves. But the rest was nice :D
who the fuck cares, when the logs speak for themselves?
@@Imlardirion Did you just ask what is the point of the video because you can see dps from the logs? Surely logs mean that there would be no point in having the dps meter.
Because people are stupid and will say "Look you can't best warriors and rogues" and completely miss the point. You don't compare hunter dps with rogues or warriors, you compare dps within your class. Every class has their own limit.
@@DiamondTear yeah I mean.. besides the melee weaving the interesting point of the video for me was the comparison to other dps , because idgaf about being either 98% or 99% since i wont reach this parse anyway with my skill - but its interesting to see if there are people out there who can compete with the rogues and warrior who deal over 1k dps. - so that was a bit disappointing to see a frozen dps meter ^^
What a legend.
We were doing this in 2006, son.
@@Price245 We weren't calling out haters in discord, that's the best part.
@@Arcashine you mean Teamspeak and Ventrilo
@@Price245 Ah yes, the robust text chat channels of old.
Wow really good work :) , but why not Max-weaving
In general, never listen to any of Skarm's thoughts or opinions on anything because he has never come up with an efficient build.
Epic vid man! What addon do you use for swapping items ?? It looks sick.
I thought everyone knew about melee weaving since launch basically..? I swear people even made videos on it being good. So odd. I guess it's better this tier though.
Hunters are just lazy it seems
@@Nate1The1Great1 Lazy, or their guilds flat out refuse to let them have Zin rokh or asscandy, because "reasons" and because by their logic, those weapons are better off sitting in the tanks' bags, never to be used, because "warrior! hurr durr!"
Yeah it's good if you got 4 rows of buffs, Ashkandi, Ashjre and 4 hunters with expose weakness.
Ayy classic HS lesgo!
great video
Awesome video! Which autoshot timer are you using?
WeaponSwingTimer SixxFixx
Out of interest, did any of the shittalkers on discord apologise for badmouthing you like that or getting you banned?
what songs are those?
Eric B and Rakim - Follow the leader
Eric B and Rakim - Let the rhythm hit 'em
Ok .. i go to play hunter :D
I've found that i do the most damage on my hunter when i'm melee weaving with aspect of the cheetah on
good pwning man :)
Come make more videos !
So, you've basically got top crossbow + top 2hander to do top5 at best in a shitty guild?
While requiring debuff slot for hunter's mark and fear ward and never tranqing.
Any good fury war with dalrends would do a better damage.
lol
lol what a sad world view and comprehension you got buddy... but again, i guess cyka blyat
Jesus Christ comrade lay off the wodka
You can also clear all current content with meme spec dps. This content is for fun, top dps spec is irrelevant. Also, this dudes consistently top for his class. Where the fuck are you? Let me guess...your one of "your" guilds "top" dps...Have fun rolling hunter or warlock in TBC.
you can clearly see in his logs, he actually is using tranq shot, and you see it in the video. why wouldnt you use fear ward, if you had it available? hes also using a blue weapon (gri'leks axe)for his 2 hander, not askandi? none of your complaints are valid...
addons are pretty clean, got your setup available anywhere?
xd?
Whats the name off the melee / range zones addon?
pretty sure it's a weakaura script.
@@Primight I found it. Thanks!
More power to you that want to melee-weave, but I have zero interest in it personaly.
I already have six 99% parses out of 8 bosses without melee-weaving.
But it's cool to see the amount of work that goes into it.
99% parses is not the goal and the final stage, you can have 120% in reality like him. 1% parse is equal to 10 points, and when you see 120 points on ebonroc by Skinnay, it's equal to 120% parses. But if your goal is just the 99% display GG
Holy shit your guilds tanks are sexy.
New video pls !!!
6 of our ashkandis have gone to hunters please send help
Can i have 1 :( we have yet to see a single drop.
Sneaky sneaky with that "damage to bosses" tab at 11:30 instead of total damage. I suppose I can't blame you.
The only difference between the two is AOE damage to nefarian skeletons, which has nothing to do with the difference between melee weaving and normal rotation. Also, the Warcraftlogs community and administration decided that damage to bosses was the appropriate default metric for BWL, and rolled out that change, but had to revert it only due to technical issues.
Here's a source for good measure:
i.imgur.com/nxI8ASZ.png
@@skinnay_ Yea I ultimately I agree with you. I double checked Kreelix's #s and the other 4 above you and it's legitimately just an explosive trap and a sapper.
All my 99s as a Rogue on Nef come down to how hard my sapper hits. 28k? 99 parse.
I'm surprised they didn't take this approach on a few MC bosses as well.
Big Fan
We still learn.
GJ dude
Pretty sick DPS -Fps
Hunters are so insanely lazy or bad. Years later its SoD now and people still refuse to melee weave. Made my first hunter in sod and the skill ceiling it has made it my favourite instantly. Fuck the lazy people i guess
Are these comments from butt hurt ppl who havent had it drop yet?
okay i love this but your UI is hurtingme
UI haters are annyoing. fuck off bud.
Go check out SKINNAY please
imagine arguing that AP Corki was good because 1 guy got into challenger doing it.
it is those kind of ppl that justify everything with logs haha, they like robots
It's hunter bis. Warriors have way better options. It should go to hunters first
@Saatana did you even watch the video?
Joel Bourquin Dude's got a point. I would highly doubt even 80% of the hunter community (or any class-player base) is even competent enough to pull off the rotation effectively.
Just did 1700 dps on vael as a fury warrior with ashkandi...
@@dzlok And now look at rank 1 fury dps on vael
@Saatana No of course not, but if they do this should be hunter bis.. its like a different spec...
insane
He never topped the meter....., he was neck and neck with a hunter not weaving
Well, the video wasn't about melee weaving making hunters beat the brown tide.
It was about the viability of melee weaving and the fact that, mathematically, it's a dps increase if it's a fight where you can pull it off.
And at the time of the raid in the video, this dude was the no. 1 hunter in the world.
Edit: Also just had a look, all the top hunters in the world in Naxx are melee weaving.
lol, one boss fight where you had INSANE crit rng does not make a rotation great.
It wasn't just one boss fight, it was the complete raid.
Congrats on proving false positives. Hundreds of higher parsing hunters on specific fights disagree that melee weaving is necessary to parse at the highest level for a hunter. You proving you do well doesnt prove that melee weaving is the reason you perform at the level you do. Your ebonroc had ZERO dodges, 80% multishot critrate, and you use a 2hander that just about no one has farmed. Keep acting like melee weaving is the reason for that parse.
ok i will
> You proving you do well doesnt prove that melee weaving is the reason you perform at the level you do
what kind of sentence is this lol
@@nhymz It''s like using a lower dps weapon but playing the class better than another person, and claiming the inferior weapon is better just because you did more damage. He's an amazing hunter, thats a given, but that alone doesn't prove he's doing the damage he's doing because he's melee weaving. He just wants to be controversial. Its working, I know who he is and Im here giving him views and not the other 300 hunters who beat him on razorgore.
@@lockekappa500 by your logic, all the top parses with rhok'delar prove it's a better weapon than ashjre'thul right?
why do you care so much about how this man chooses to play his class?
This is cringe af. I'd say props on the effort if you weren't so insufferable in presenting it.
Consider how insufferably he's been treated?
lmao classic players.... smh... Timecop invented this on Kronos in 2012. BACK TO RETAIL KIDDIES
Props to Timecop for that, but he went to the dark side and is playing melee dps in Classic.
As someone who plays hunter Im impressed with your performance and the video is overall enjoyable. However, these constant overlays of people questioning melee weaving is annoying. We get it, a lot of people didnt think it was doable / efficient. No need for 10+ overlays, its disruptive and comes off as too much self-praise.
kekw I guess
You need good tanks for this, tanks that don't constantly move around for no reason and deadzone you