do you think that was the reason he lost? like, thors just got killed too fast then? is there a better way to deal with broodlords? maybe go heavier on vikings since if you have enough of them they can oneshot broodlords (then you hit and run a bunch of times)
@@thomaskunz3089 I still dont get why the pros dont use Hellbats with blueflames. They are cheap, and eat lings and broodlings for breakfast. Just like 8 or 10 in the first row...
I love lategame Matches. Those hundreds of zerglings running into the terran defence just looked so epic. And I love seeing all the different units the game has to offer
That final engagement was hard to watch as Dream spent way too much time fighting broodlings instead of jumping on top of the broodlords. I saw this live and even the casters were surprised at how poorly Dream seemed to play it out. Reynor probably just exhausted Dream from the long game.
Can you explain if it is designed that terran late is stronger? From what lowko said he forgot some of his army in base and his upgrades and was still even. Imagine if he didnt commit those mistakes.
@@matheusnunes970 Individual units for terran mech are stronger because they take so much longer to build. Zerg's advantage is in the fact that they can completely remake an army in a matter of seconds as long as they have the larva. A terran mech army will take several minutes, but really the fact is that Thors are literally meant to be the counter to brood lords. So in a head to head fight the Thors SHOULD win if they're played properly, but as patrick said the thors spent the vast majority of their time just shooting broodlings which really does nothing.
@@zepenance9571 Part of it was because the Thors were on a choke point, and not all of them were shooting at the same time. Meanwhile Reynor micro his BL almost perfectly, get in, shoot and then move out of range of the Thors. Had this been a head-on fight where Thors can move foward freely, all the BL would have been destroyed.
@@alexsis1778 it was just because reynor blocked the thors in a joke point and as lowko mentioned the broodlings blocked the path of the thors. Reynor was ahead in this game with his strategy .
So do any marine variants with bayonets (War Pigs during campaign and Mira's Maurader skin marines). The War Hound also has a melee animation (they punch) that's only seeable during HOTS campaign when fighting them with melee units.
O yea this is gonna be EPIC for sure. Thors are gonna derp against each other and the broods are gonna brood Edit after watching. Yea pretty much what I expected... Not the best map or location for mass thors. I wonder why they never break those rocks? I bet that would have let terran win. I am always puzzled by these things. Great cast lowko! I will probably honestly watch this a few more times to study.
So cool to see starcraft 2 is still being played. Me and my friend used to play the origan starcraft as kids and we didn't have a good enough computer to play starcraft 2 LOL or it got delayed or both. MOVED TO PC AND FOUND STARCRAFT IS BEING PLAYED ANDDD FREE. mannn so dope. This vids are cool to watch btw good content.
Protoss have Carriers with the ability to recall them. Terran have Battle Cruisers that can independently teleport. Both are able to mass up and wreck anything in their way in a large Armada. Zerg have Fail-lords that can't travel through the network, are slow and literally have multiple counters. They also have Derp-tralisks that can't step over units and literally clog army mobility. Zerg is like playing StarCraft 2 on hard mode.
agreed, Lowko can make the casts very enjoyable and easy to understand, with just the right amount of humor and jokes to keep us entertained while the game reaches a bit of a low
I've recently only gotten into StarCraft. Only played zerg. Watched some videos. Love it. Thank you. I want some Chipotle. I wonder if this rash is contagious.
My lord Reynors unit control is out of this world. Yeah you can criticize Dreams Thor micro in the end but that is just one part of the Puzzle. Reynors Broodlord micro was beautiful.
Fantastic game, and great cast as always. I’m trash at Starcraft, so this question may sound dumb: would the fight have gone better had Dream replaced his Thors with several Vikings? Since so much of Reynor’s supply was caught up in brood lords, I’m wondering if this would have ‘changed the tide of battle’. But then again Reynor had several fungals and spores available,
@GlowyBoi Makes sense. I guess one advantage is that they’re more maneuverable and don’t derp on pathing. But even if he pulled it off, if reynor remaxed with corruptors Dream wouldn’t have had enough money to pump out marines to deal with the corruptors
I actually agree on you with Starcraft being the best esport, I mainly play League now a days (you are free to judge me) and even tho I barely play Starcraft at this point I can't get enough from watching Starcraft pro games while League esport is boring in comparison (I say in comparison for a reason, I still enjoy watching League matches). Starcraft esport is just awesome.
Dear Lowko, thank you for another great video. I love your casts and your analysis of the games. As you mentioned GuMiho returning to SC2, I thought that it would be nice if you did a video-special / professional portrait about that (or any other) player. Something that would show the development of the player over the years in relation to the meta changing, or a best-of, a king of player-special. Ofcourse this could become a regular thing that you can do for any other professional player (especially those that you often say you would like to have them featured more often). I know this would be hard work though. Just an idea.
The shorter range is a big issue though, considering hew was already struggling to get more than a few thors in range even with high-impact. I know it's only a bit shorter, but that bit counts a lot. Of course, the damage form missiles is also more frontloaded too, which might be a help...
@@FireCrack I didn't even think of missile damage being frontloaded more. However, they just deal 20 damage and attack more than 3 times slower. If getting in range is an issue, especially if the opponent micros the broodlords bac? you would want to take the option that gets the most damage in while possible, which is high impact. Consider also that missile damage falls of later in the fight when unit numbers get lower and there are fewer targets for splash damage.
So zerg actually has a solid late game army: broodlord, infestor, viper, corruptor, ling bane with extra overlords and crawlers. If your opponent didn't finish upgrades. A composition also known as Just play like Ser... huh Reynor.
When you say: "I have been recommended this match by so many players!" I'm like: meeeaahhh... another boring shit coming right up. BUT MAN! THIS WAS INTENSE! Omg best game I have watched this year!
I don't like that the Ghost seems to be the counter against all Zerg late game units (broods, ultras, lurkers, spellcasters). I would love to see what would happen to the game if the Ghost would no longer have Snipe (but maybe a slightly more powerful base attack) and giving the Siege Tank an Upgrade that would ignore (some) of the enemy armor when not sieged. Then we would have tanks and liberators against ultras, vikings and thors against broods, etc.
When I see zerglings taking Thors like that I wonder: wouldn't it be a good thing to have a few Hellbats around? Just a few, to deal with the zerglings and broodlings.
I never understood the appeal of pro gaming, because ultimately their basic systems lead me to want to play for fun over competition. Watching the Pro's play this game, I can surely say this game DESERVES it's legendary status. You are 100% right Lowko, why do any other pro leagues even exist compared to this.
32:36 Here you can observe Lowko's Word-Per-Minute spiked to abnormal level.
Chrono boosted
@@LowkoTV so are when are we gonna see your rap channel?
@@Helycon Eminem is suspiciously quiet on this.
@@LowkoTV Definitely the Karax one.
Lool
I don't think I've ever heard Lowko's voice get that high for that long!
IKR💥
Highko
Went into Mickey Mouse mode
At 32:35 ?
Understandable. This was an epic game and cast!
31:51 - "Average actions per minute (resigned laughter) how is this human"
Dream not having vehicle armor was sooo painful 😭
He's a minecraft yotuuber
@@Bandit473 wrong dream
Yeee that was a huge mistake. These Zerg- and Broodlings dealt way too much damage to the thors thanks to that.
do you think that was the reason he lost? like, thors just got killed too fast then? is there a better way to deal with broodlords? maybe go heavier on vikings since if you have enough of them they can oneshot broodlords (then you hit and run a bunch of times)
@@thomaskunz3089 I still dont get why the pros dont use Hellbats with blueflames. They are cheap, and eat lings and broodlings for breakfast. Just like 8 or 10 in the first row...
I love lategame Matches. Those hundreds of zerglings running into the terran defence just looked so epic. And I love seeing all the different units the game has to offer
I Just can't believe lowko has casted a game where reynor wins!
I guess Reynor's been complaining for weeks already
@@Jabawalk Probably Reynor threatened him not to help Lowko anymore when Harmstem casts Lowko' games
One of the most exited match i have seen.
How many times can you exit a match tho
@@Purrfect_Werecat lol, my bad
Thx for posting so regulary Lowko, I really enjoy your videos :D
Watching the broodlords succeed is such a treat 👌🏻
Lowko wheres your INTROOOOO
HELLO FRED MY NAME IS LOWKO
@@LowkoTV such a humble guy, even made a special version of the intro for our friend fred
I kinda miss the intros🤔 ahhh💩💩💩💩
Hello everyone this is your daily dose of internet
Wait...
They were pretty annoying and cringe glad they are gone
So I was pretty surprised to Tune in to LowkoTV and see a Professional match of StarCraft II.
:D
32:39
Karax: Chrono boost activated!
Lowko: _produces his words under ChB effect_
That final engagement was hard to watch as Dream spent way too much time fighting broodlings instead of jumping on top of the broodlords. I saw this live and even the casters were surprised at how poorly Dream seemed to play it out. Reynor probably just exhausted Dream from the long game.
Can you explain if it is designed that terran late is stronger? From what lowko said he forgot some of his army in base and his upgrades and was still even. Imagine if he didnt commit those mistakes.
@@matheusnunes970 Individual units for terran mech are stronger because they take so much longer to build. Zerg's advantage is in the fact that they can completely remake an army in a matter of seconds as long as they have the larva. A terran mech army will take several minutes, but really the fact is that Thors are literally meant to be the counter to brood lords. So in a head to head fight the Thors SHOULD win if they're played properly, but as patrick said the thors spent the vast majority of their time just shooting broodlings which really does nothing.
This is odd because thors are supposed to target priority air as soon as they can. Which means Raynors micro was on point with them
@@zepenance9571 Part of it was because the Thors were on a choke point, and not all of them were shooting at the same time. Meanwhile Reynor micro his BL almost perfectly, get in, shoot and then move out of range of the Thors. Had this been a head-on fight where Thors can move foward freely, all the BL would have been destroyed.
@@alexsis1778 it was just because reynor blocked the thors in a joke point and as lowko mentioned the broodlings blocked the path of the thors. Reynor was ahead in this game with his strategy .
It just bothers me to no end that the guy names Raynor plays Zerg and not Terrin.
haha yeah same
23:15 that reaction plus the bg music of SCII is fantastic. 😂😂😂😂😂
Insane game! love seeing Reynor doing what Reynor does best! Winning :D
Jesus christ, that last minute and a half was TRULY HARDCORE. All the big fights were so freagging close.
After many years away from SC2 - your casts brought me back the old hobby. Great match and also great casting. thanks Lowko!
sameee
Lowko, did you know that both hydras and roaches have a melee animation, it's also not effected by guardian shield!
So do any marine variants with bayonets (War Pigs during campaign and Mira's Maurader skin marines). The War Hound also has a melee animation (they punch) that's only seeable during HOTS campaign when fighting them with melee units.
35:24 - He's drooling brains at this point
Can we appriciate that lowko picks the games that his community recommends him?
that's worth alot, thank you lowko!
the overlords pooping creep for the spores then soaking up the fire! brilliant!
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to pay attention to in the thumbnail without any arrows.
O yea this is gonna be EPIC for sure. Thors are gonna derp against each other and the broods are gonna brood
Edit after watching. Yea pretty much what I expected... Not the best map or location for mass thors. I wonder why they never break those rocks? I bet that would have let terran win. I am always puzzled by these things. Great cast lowko! I will probably honestly watch this a few more times to study.
Thor is tied for one of my favorite units next to the cyclones and vikings
So cool to see starcraft 2 is still being played. Me and my friend used to play the origan starcraft as kids and we didn't have a good enough computer to play starcraft 2 LOL or it got delayed or both.
MOVED TO PC AND FOUND STARCRAFT IS BEING PLAYED ANDDD FREE. mannn so dope. This vids are cool to watch btw good content.
'Can we see some nukes please?' got me lol almost like a 'Send nukes plz'
Wow that was a close one, I don't know how he pulled that off. Thanks Lowko!
Protoss have Carriers with the ability to recall them.
Terran have Battle Cruisers that can independently teleport.
Both are able to mass up and wreck anything in their way in a large Armada.
Zerg have Fail-lords that can't travel through the network, are slow and literally have multiple counters. They also have Derp-tralisks that can't step over units and literally clog army mobility.
Zerg is like playing StarCraft 2 on hard mode.
Lowko having a starcraftgasm for 37 minutes
I almost never play starcraft, but i cant pass away a lowko video, how that even work?
agreed, Lowko can make the casts very enjoyable and easy to understand, with just the right amount of humor and jokes to keep us entertained while the game reaches a bit of a low
14:33 Reynor unburrows the one ling to distract the tanks
Wow, didn't catch that.
best ghost dying impression in 2021
Props for Dream - he didnt surrendered earlier and gave us a chance to enjoy final battle to its end.
This is the first time I've heard Lowko compliment a planetary.
Damn, what an insane game! :D
I saw this game live and it was so much fun!
Reynor's APM hits 1500+ frequently... that is super human.
"He has no conceivable weakness!" "Let you me show you his teeth!" Amusing ;)
I think this may be the best game I've ever seen. StarCraft 2 can be so beautiful😍😍😍
Yeah that was a great game! Best I’ve seen in a long time!
That was a Masterclass in how to play Zerg!
That ghost screan impression was very good
good show now we know to fight a thor, broodlord needs help from overload, investor and spore
The amount of excitement Lowko displays when casting is just pure serotonin. Amazing game again, you just got to love Reynor!
Sc2 back then, marine tank, muta bane, colossi stalk
Sc2 now, literal campaign cutscenes and missions
I've recently only gotten into StarCraft. Only played zerg. Watched some videos. Love it. Thank you. I want some Chipotle. I wonder if this rash is contagious.
Wow. That game was EPIC!!!
And you didn’t even use any thumbnail arrows!
dude your commentary is what makes this video so much more entertaining! good job and looking forward to your next video
Best I've seen in a while. Great casting!
25:39 i know right. And whenever someone says e-sports are not real sports, you just know they havent seen starcraft 2 e-sports.
Epic match and awesome commentary Lowko.
Your love of the game comes through in every broadcast, and it makes it so much more enjoyable.
This match felt like a campaign battle.
Thors vs broods is fun and all, but the nuke spam is by far the more entertaining part for me
18:05 - Press F to pay respects
Lowko really love these casts. Great content as always!
Love Reynor's call to make infestors with those broodlords. Killer combo.
My lord Reynors unit control is out of this world. Yeah you can criticize Dreams Thor micro in the end but that is just one part of the Puzzle. Reynors Broodlord micro was beautiful.
Take a shot whenever lowko say "literally"
i love how a zergling can prevent a townhall to land
wow epic. I think the nuke could have been a little + retracted to avoid the crash. they were very frontal
that game was PHENOMENAL
THAT WAS FREAKING AMAZING! Thanks for your great passionate commentaries Lowko!
Those Thors remind me of Goliaths from broodwar which stuck all the time and literally suck at walking.
Lowko it was awesome game. Enjoyed every minute.
Fantastic game, and great cast as always. I’m trash at Starcraft, so this question may sound dumb: would the fight have gone better had Dream replaced his Thors with several Vikings? Since so much of Reynor’s supply was caught up in brood lords, I’m wondering if this would have ‘changed the tide of battle’. But then again Reynor had several fungals and spores available,
Yea. He kinda threw away his vikings into the spores. I think if he keeps some vikings this would have gone in his favor
@@shayden598 I guess it’s tough to decide in the moment, since Thors on paper should trash brood lords and he already committed to vehicle upgrades
@GlowyBoi Makes sense. I guess one advantage is that they’re more maneuverable and don’t derp on pathing. But even if he pulled it off, if reynor remaxed with corruptors Dream wouldn’t have had enough money to pump out marines to deal with the corruptors
I actually agree on you with Starcraft being the best esport, I mainly play League now a days (you are free to judge me) and even tho I barely play Starcraft at this point I can't get enough from watching Starcraft pro games while League esport is boring in comparison (I say in comparison for a reason, I still enjoy watching League matches). Starcraft esport is just awesome.
Dang Lowko, six ads? Are you saving up to buy some rental property?
oh my god. this was. incredible.
Now that was a Starcraft game.
Lowko: "Starcraft is the best Esport"
League of legends players: *Angry zealot noises*
Starcraft is the grandfather of esport if u knew the old days
i agree. i play lol and watch sc2. Getting the best from 2 worlds =)
“dReEeeAaaAam, where are you?”
Wow!
The map looks like a chapter of the terran campaigns
Dear Lowko, thank you for another great video. I love your casts and your analysis of the games. As you mentioned GuMiho returning to SC2, I thought that it would be nice if you did a video-special / professional portrait about that (or any other) player. Something that would show the development of the player over the years in relation to the meta changing, or a best-of, a king of player-special. Ofcourse this could become a regular thing that you can do for any other professional player (especially those that you often say you would like to have them featured more often). I know this would be hard work though. Just an idea.
Gumiho is back with his cool mech builds?
"Screams in fanboy"
Woah that was an epic match
If you understand what happening, you are right. whit the best esport thing. And i like how you cast, bcs you try explain what happening.
I think some blue-flame hellbats to quickly deal with broodlings and zerglings would have been nice.
12:35 Reynor with 1579apm. I think Reynor is actually a robot...
Fun fact: For a Thors Missile Launcher to be worth it over the High Impact Payload, he needs to hit at least 5 Broodlords at once with each volley.
The shorter range is a big issue though, considering hew was already struggling to get more than a few thors in range even with high-impact. I know it's only a bit shorter, but that bit counts a lot.
Of course, the damage form missiles is also more frontloaded too, which might be a help...
@@FireCrack I didn't even think of missile damage being frontloaded more. However, they just deal 20 damage and attack more than 3 times slower. If getting in range is an issue, especially if the opponent micros the broodlords bac? you would want to take the option that gets the most damage in while possible, which is high impact. Consider also that missile damage falls of later in the fight when unit numbers get lower and there are fewer targets for splash damage.
So zerg actually has a solid late game army: broodlord, infestor, viper, corruptor, ling bane with extra overlords and crawlers. If your opponent didn't finish upgrades.
A composition also known as Just play like Ser... huh Reynor.
That was such a battle.
man...that game was...in Lowko's word, "sick"
When you say: "I have been recommended this match by so many players!" I'm like: meeeaahhh... another boring shit coming right up.
BUT MAN! THIS WAS INTENSE! Omg best game I have watched this year!
I already saw this replay but im going to watch it again because i love the way lowko commentate his videos
Damn, been awhile since I felt such a rush by the end of a game.
Nice, 4k quality
I don't like that the Ghost seems to be the counter against all Zerg late game units (broods, ultras, lurkers, spellcasters).
I would love to see what would happen to the game if the Ghost would no longer have Snipe (but maybe a slightly more powerful base attack) and giving the Siege Tank an Upgrade that would ignore (some) of the enemy armor when not sieged. Then we would have tanks and liberators against ultras, vikings and thors against broods, etc.
Wowww what a finish!
WHAT A GAME BRO
That was a grand game
uh anyone else notice the climax of the terran music sync'd perfectly w/ Lowko's intro of Dream....this man's got the gift.
wow... i dont react to videos much... this was actually EPIC
Incredible game !
When I see zerglings taking Thors like that I wonder: wouldn't it be a good thing to have a few Hellbats around? Just a few, to deal with the zerglings and broodlings.
25:42 Starcraft was the mother of all e-sports by the way. It basically started e-sports and without Starcraft, every other e-sports wouldn't exist.
Insane game holy crap
34:40 Some thors at the back are shooting the broodlings rather than the broodlords....
I never understood the appeal of pro gaming, because ultimately their basic systems lead me to want to play for fun over competition.
Watching the Pro's play this game, I can surely say this game DESERVES it's legendary status.
You are 100% right Lowko, why do any other pro leagues even exist compared to this.