I love lategame Matches. Those hundreds of zerglings running into the terran defence just looked so epic. And I love seeing all the different units the game has to offer
do you think that was the reason he lost? like, thors just got killed too fast then? is there a better way to deal with broodlords? maybe go heavier on vikings since if you have enough of them they can oneshot broodlords (then you hit and run a bunch of times)
@@thomaskunz3089 I still dont get why the pros dont use Hellbats with blueflames. They are cheap, and eat lings and broodlings for breakfast. Just like 8 or 10 in the first row...
Protoss have Carriers with the ability to recall them. Terran have Battle Cruisers that can independently teleport. Both are able to mass up and wreck anything in their way in a large Armada. Zerg have Fail-lords that can't travel through the network, are slow and literally have multiple counters. They also have Derp-tralisks that can't step over units and literally clog army mobility. Zerg is like playing StarCraft 2 on hard mode.
That final engagement was hard to watch as Dream spent way too much time fighting broodlings instead of jumping on top of the broodlords. I saw this live and even the casters were surprised at how poorly Dream seemed to play it out. Reynor probably just exhausted Dream from the long game.
Can you explain if it is designed that terran late is stronger? From what lowko said he forgot some of his army in base and his upgrades and was still even. Imagine if he didnt commit those mistakes.
@@matheusnunes970 Individual units for terran mech are stronger because they take so much longer to build. Zerg's advantage is in the fact that they can completely remake an army in a matter of seconds as long as they have the larva. A terran mech army will take several minutes, but really the fact is that Thors are literally meant to be the counter to brood lords. So in a head to head fight the Thors SHOULD win if they're played properly, but as patrick said the thors spent the vast majority of their time just shooting broodlings which really does nothing.
@@zepenance9571 Part of it was because the Thors were on a choke point, and not all of them were shooting at the same time. Meanwhile Reynor micro his BL almost perfectly, get in, shoot and then move out of range of the Thors. Had this been a head-on fight where Thors can move foward freely, all the BL would have been destroyed.
@@alexsis1778 it was just because reynor blocked the thors in a joke point and as lowko mentioned the broodlings blocked the path of the thors. Reynor was ahead in this game with his strategy .
So cool to see starcraft 2 is still being played. Me and my friend used to play the origan starcraft as kids and we didn't have a good enough computer to play starcraft 2 LOL or it got delayed or both. MOVED TO PC AND FOUND STARCRAFT IS BEING PLAYED ANDDD FREE. mannn so dope. This vids are cool to watch btw good content.
@lowko What’s your opinion on adding hellbats to the Terran force? If I’m reading the numbers right, +1 hellbats should one-shot broodlings at all upgrade levels, which would clear up the pathing for the Thors and help keep them alive. Seems like you’d only need 5 or 10 to keep the broodlings at bay
So do any marine variants with bayonets (War Pigs during campaign and Mira's Maurader skin marines). The War Hound also has a melee animation (they punch) that's only seeable during HOTS campaign when fighting them with melee units.
agreed, Lowko can make the casts very enjoyable and easy to understand, with just the right amount of humor and jokes to keep us entertained while the game reaches a bit of a low
I've recently only gotten into StarCraft. Only played zerg. Watched some videos. Love it. Thank you. I want some Chipotle. I wonder if this rash is contagious.
O yea this is gonna be EPIC for sure. Thors are gonna derp against each other and the broods are gonna brood Edit after watching. Yea pretty much what I expected... Not the best map or location for mass thors. I wonder why they never break those rocks? I bet that would have let terran win. I am always puzzled by these things. Great cast lowko! I will probably honestly watch this a few more times to study.
My lord Reynors unit control is out of this world. Yeah you can criticize Dreams Thor micro in the end but that is just one part of the Puzzle. Reynors Broodlord micro was beautiful.
Can someone answer me this: is there a tactics to make a unit like a Creep Tumor or a Changeling, and then friendly fire Broodlings from the Broodlords, out of range of an enemy army/defenses? Is it something that has been seen and done in the past?
I don't like that the Ghost seems to be the counter against all Zerg late game units (broods, ultras, lurkers, spellcasters). I would love to see what would happen to the game if the Ghost would no longer have Snipe (but maybe a slightly more powerful base attack) and giving the Siege Tank an Upgrade that would ignore (some) of the enemy armor when not sieged. Then we would have tanks and liberators against ultras, vikings and thors against broods, etc.
Fantastic game, and great cast as always. I’m trash at Starcraft, so this question may sound dumb: would the fight have gone better had Dream replaced his Thors with several Vikings? Since so much of Reynor’s supply was caught up in brood lords, I’m wondering if this would have ‘changed the tide of battle’. But then again Reynor had several fungals and spores available,
@GlowyBoi Makes sense. I guess one advantage is that they’re more maneuverable and don’t derp on pathing. But even if he pulled it off, if reynor remaxed with corruptors Dream wouldn’t have had enough money to pump out marines to deal with the corruptors
Dear Lowko, thank you for another great video. I love your casts and your analysis of the games. As you mentioned GuMiho returning to SC2, I thought that it would be nice if you did a video-special / professional portrait about that (or any other) player. Something that would show the development of the player over the years in relation to the meta changing, or a best-of, a king of player-special. Ofcourse this could become a regular thing that you can do for any other professional player (especially those that you often say you would like to have them featured more often). I know this would be hard work though. Just an idea.
I actually agree on you with Starcraft being the best esport, I mainly play League now a days (you are free to judge me) and even tho I barely play Starcraft at this point I can't get enough from watching Starcraft pro games while League esport is boring in comparison (I say in comparison for a reason, I still enjoy watching League matches). Starcraft esport is just awesome.
So zerg actually has a solid late game army: broodlord, infestor, viper, corruptor, ling bane with extra overlords and crawlers. If your opponent didn't finish upgrades. A composition also known as Just play like Ser... huh Reynor.
When you say: "I have been recommended this match by so many players!" I'm like: meeeaahhh... another boring shit coming right up. BUT MAN! THIS WAS INTENSE! Omg best game I have watched this year!
I never understood the appeal of pro gaming, because ultimately their basic systems lead me to want to play for fun over competition. Watching the Pro's play this game, I can surely say this game DESERVES it's legendary status. You are 100% right Lowko, why do any other pro leagues even exist compared to this.
The shorter range is a big issue though, considering hew was already struggling to get more than a few thors in range even with high-impact. I know it's only a bit shorter, but that bit counts a lot. Of course, the damage form missiles is also more frontloaded too, which might be a help...
@@FireCrack I didn't even think of missile damage being frontloaded more. However, they just deal 20 damage and attack more than 3 times slower. If getting in range is an issue, especially if the opponent micros the broodlords bac? you would want to take the option that gets the most damage in while possible, which is high impact. Consider also that missile damage falls of later in the fight when unit numbers get lower and there are fewer targets for splash damage.
On paper Dream should have won this match as Thors hard counter Broodlords these days. The thing is Reynor is the superior player and it didn't help that Dream forgot his armory upgrades. So somehow Reynor pulled a rabbit out of his hat.
32:36 Here you can observe Lowko's Word-Per-Minute spiked to abnormal level.
Chrono boosted
@@LowkoTV so are when are we gonna see your rap channel?
@@Helycon Eminem is suspiciously quiet on this.
@@LowkoTV Definitely the Karax one.
Lool
I don't think I've ever heard Lowko's voice get that high for that long!
IKR💥
Highko
Went into Mickey Mouse mode
At 32:35 ?
Understandable. This was an epic game and cast!
31:51 - "Average actions per minute (resigned laughter) how is this human"
I love lategame Matches. Those hundreds of zerglings running into the terran defence just looked so epic. And I love seeing all the different units the game has to offer
Dream not having vehicle armor was sooo painful 😭
He's a minecraft yotuuber
@@Bandit473 wrong dream
Yeee that was a huge mistake. These Zerg- and Broodlings dealt way too much damage to the thors thanks to that.
do you think that was the reason he lost? like, thors just got killed too fast then? is there a better way to deal with broodlords? maybe go heavier on vikings since if you have enough of them they can oneshot broodlords (then you hit and run a bunch of times)
@@thomaskunz3089 I still dont get why the pros dont use Hellbats with blueflames. They are cheap, and eat lings and broodlings for breakfast. Just like 8 or 10 in the first row...
I Just can't believe lowko has casted a game where reynor wins!
I guess Reynor's been complaining for weeks already
@@Jabawalk Probably Reynor threatened him not to help Lowko anymore when Harmstem casts Lowko' games
23:15 that reaction plus the bg music of SCII is fantastic. 😂😂😂😂😂
One of the most exited match i have seen.
How many times can you exit a match tho
@@Purrfect_Werecat lol, my bad
Watching the broodlords succeed is such a treat 👌🏻
32:39
Karax: Chrono boost activated!
Lowko: _produces his words under ChB effect_
Thx for posting so regulary Lowko, I really enjoy your videos :D
Lowko wheres your INTROOOOO
HELLO FRED MY NAME IS LOWKO
@@LowkoTV such a humble guy, even made a special version of the intro for our friend fred
I kinda miss the intros🤔 ahhh💩💩💩💩
Hello everyone this is your daily dose of internet
Wait...
They were pretty annoying and cringe glad they are gone
35:24 - He's drooling brains at this point
Protoss have Carriers with the ability to recall them.
Terran have Battle Cruisers that can independently teleport.
Both are able to mass up and wreck anything in their way in a large Armada.
Zerg have Fail-lords that can't travel through the network, are slow and literally have multiple counters. They also have Derp-tralisks that can't step over units and literally clog army mobility.
Zerg is like playing StarCraft 2 on hard mode.
Jesus christ, that last minute and a half was TRULY HARDCORE. All the big fights were so freagging close.
That final engagement was hard to watch as Dream spent way too much time fighting broodlings instead of jumping on top of the broodlords. I saw this live and even the casters were surprised at how poorly Dream seemed to play it out. Reynor probably just exhausted Dream from the long game.
Can you explain if it is designed that terran late is stronger? From what lowko said he forgot some of his army in base and his upgrades and was still even. Imagine if he didnt commit those mistakes.
@@matheusnunes970 Individual units for terran mech are stronger because they take so much longer to build. Zerg's advantage is in the fact that they can completely remake an army in a matter of seconds as long as they have the larva. A terran mech army will take several minutes, but really the fact is that Thors are literally meant to be the counter to brood lords. So in a head to head fight the Thors SHOULD win if they're played properly, but as patrick said the thors spent the vast majority of their time just shooting broodlings which really does nothing.
This is odd because thors are supposed to target priority air as soon as they can. Which means Raynors micro was on point with them
@@zepenance9571 Part of it was because the Thors were on a choke point, and not all of them were shooting at the same time. Meanwhile Reynor micro his BL almost perfectly, get in, shoot and then move out of range of the Thors. Had this been a head-on fight where Thors can move foward freely, all the BL would have been destroyed.
@@alexsis1778 it was just because reynor blocked the thors in a joke point and as lowko mentioned the broodlings blocked the path of the thors. Reynor was ahead in this game with his strategy .
So I was pretty surprised to Tune in to LowkoTV and see a Professional match of StarCraft II.
:D
It just bothers me to no end that the guy names Raynor plays Zerg and not Terrin.
haha yeah same
Insane game! love seeing Reynor doing what Reynor does best! Winning :D
After many years away from SC2 - your casts brought me back the old hobby. Great match and also great casting. thanks Lowko!
sameee
So cool to see starcraft 2 is still being played. Me and my friend used to play the origan starcraft as kids and we didn't have a good enough computer to play starcraft 2 LOL or it got delayed or both.
MOVED TO PC AND FOUND STARCRAFT IS BEING PLAYED ANDDD FREE. mannn so dope. This vids are cool to watch btw good content.
@lowko What’s your opinion on adding hellbats to the Terran force? If I’m reading the numbers right, +1 hellbats should one-shot broodlings at all upgrade levels, which would clear up the pathing for the Thors and help keep them alive. Seems like you’d only need 5 or 10 to keep the broodlings at bay
the overlords pooping creep for the spores then soaking up the fire! brilliant!
14:33 Reynor unburrows the one ling to distract the tanks
Wow, didn't catch that.
'Can we see some nukes please?' got me lol almost like a 'Send nukes plz'
25:42 Starcraft was the mother of all e-sports by the way. It basically started e-sports and without Starcraft, every other e-sports wouldn't exist.
best ghost dying impression in 2021
Lowko, did you know that both hydras and roaches have a melee animation, it's also not effected by guardian shield!
So do any marine variants with bayonets (War Pigs during campaign and Mira's Maurader skin marines). The War Hound also has a melee animation (they punch) that's only seeable during HOTS campaign when fighting them with melee units.
Lowko having a starcraftgasm for 37 minutes
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to pay attention to in the thumbnail without any arrows.
Can we appriciate that lowko picks the games that his community recommends him?
that's worth alot, thank you lowko!
Wow that was a close one, I don't know how he pulled that off. Thanks Lowko!
I almost never play starcraft, but i cant pass away a lowko video, how that even work?
agreed, Lowko can make the casts very enjoyable and easy to understand, with just the right amount of humor and jokes to keep us entertained while the game reaches a bit of a low
Thor is tied for one of my favorite units next to the cyclones and vikings
I've recently only gotten into StarCraft. Only played zerg. Watched some videos. Love it. Thank you. I want some Chipotle. I wonder if this rash is contagious.
Damn, what an insane game! :D
dude your commentary is what makes this video so much more entertaining! good job and looking forward to your next video
Epic match and awesome commentary Lowko.
Your love of the game comes through in every broadcast, and it makes it so much more enjoyable.
O yea this is gonna be EPIC for sure. Thors are gonna derp against each other and the broods are gonna brood
Edit after watching. Yea pretty much what I expected... Not the best map or location for mass thors. I wonder why they never break those rocks? I bet that would have let terran win. I am always puzzled by these things. Great cast lowko! I will probably honestly watch this a few more times to study.
How is the ghost at 21:11 not auto attacking? Anyone know?
"He has no conceivable weakness!" "Let you me show you his teeth!" Amusing ;)
My lord Reynors unit control is out of this world. Yeah you can criticize Dreams Thor micro in the end but that is just one part of the Puzzle. Reynors Broodlord micro was beautiful.
Yeah that was a great game! Best I’ve seen in a long time!
Sc2 back then, marine tank, muta bane, colossi stalk
Sc2 now, literal campaign cutscenes and missions
Can someone answer me this: is there a tactics to make a unit like a Creep Tumor or a Changeling, and then friendly fire Broodlings from the Broodlords, out of range of an enemy army/defenses? Is it something that has been seen and done in the past?
Best I've seen in a while. Great casting!
Props for Dream - he didnt surrendered earlier and gave us a chance to enjoy final battle to its end.
25:39 i know right. And whenever someone says e-sports are not real sports, you just know they havent seen starcraft 2 e-sports.
Reynor's APM hits 1500+ frequently... that is super human.
I don't like that the Ghost seems to be the counter against all Zerg late game units (broods, ultras, lurkers, spellcasters).
I would love to see what would happen to the game if the Ghost would no longer have Snipe (but maybe a slightly more powerful base attack) and giving the Siege Tank an Upgrade that would ignore (some) of the enemy armor when not sieged. Then we would have tanks and liberators against ultras, vikings and thors against broods, etc.
Fantastic game, and great cast as always. I’m trash at Starcraft, so this question may sound dumb: would the fight have gone better had Dream replaced his Thors with several Vikings? Since so much of Reynor’s supply was caught up in brood lords, I’m wondering if this would have ‘changed the tide of battle’. But then again Reynor had several fungals and spores available,
Yea. He kinda threw away his vikings into the spores. I think if he keeps some vikings this would have gone in his favor
@@shayden598 I guess it’s tough to decide in the moment, since Thors on paper should trash brood lords and he already committed to vehicle upgrades
@GlowyBoi Makes sense. I guess one advantage is that they’re more maneuverable and don’t derp on pathing. But even if he pulled it off, if reynor remaxed with corruptors Dream wouldn’t have had enough money to pump out marines to deal with the corruptors
Dear Lowko, thank you for another great video. I love your casts and your analysis of the games. As you mentioned GuMiho returning to SC2, I thought that it would be nice if you did a video-special / professional portrait about that (or any other) player. Something that would show the development of the player over the years in relation to the meta changing, or a best-of, a king of player-special. Ofcourse this could become a regular thing that you can do for any other professional player (especially those that you often say you would like to have them featured more often). I know this would be hard work though. Just an idea.
That was a Masterclass in how to play Zerg!
Lowko really love these casts. Great content as always!
Wow. That game was EPIC!!!
And you didn’t even use any thumbnail arrows!
18:05 - Press F to pay respects
The amount of excitement Lowko displays when casting is just pure serotonin. Amazing game again, you just got to love Reynor!
That ghost screan impression was very good
good show now we know to fight a thor, broodlord needs help from overload, investor and spore
I think this may be the best game I've ever seen. StarCraft 2 can be so beautiful😍😍😍
THAT WAS FREAKING AMAZING! Thanks for your great passionate commentaries Lowko!
Where is the arrow in the thumbnail?
that game was PHENOMENAL
I saw this game live and it was so much fun!
I actually agree on you with Starcraft being the best esport, I mainly play League now a days (you are free to judge me) and even tho I barely play Starcraft at this point I can't get enough from watching Starcraft pro games while League esport is boring in comparison (I say in comparison for a reason, I still enjoy watching League matches). Starcraft esport is just awesome.
wow epic. I think the nuke could have been a little + retracted to avoid the crash. they were very frontal
34:40 Some thors at the back are shooting the broodlings rather than the broodlords....
Thors vs broods is fun and all, but the nuke spam is by far the more entertaining part for me
Take a shot whenever lowko say "literally"
This is the first time I've heard Lowko compliment a planetary.
Lowko it was awesome game. Enjoyed every minute.
the 7:30 position ! w8 what gtm are u lowko ? xD
Oh wow what a game.
Also @Lowko at 32:45 sounded like you forgot to breathe there 🤣🤣🤣
This match felt like a campaign battle.
Woah that was an epic match
Now that was a Starcraft game.
If you understand what happening, you are right. whit the best esport thing. And i like how you cast, bcs you try explain what happening.
oh my god. this was. incredible.
i love how a zergling can prevent a townhall to land
That was such a battle.
Does blinding cloud work on thors?
Great game & cast. Thanks mate!
Dang Lowko, six ads? Are you saving up to buy some rental property?
So zerg actually has a solid late game army: broodlord, infestor, viper, corruptor, ling bane with extra overlords and crawlers. If your opponent didn't finish upgrades.
A composition also known as Just play like Ser... huh Reynor.
31:51 Lowkos comment on Actions per minute, but at 32:38 his Words per Minute reached a new world record!
uh anyone else notice the climax of the terran music sync'd perfectly w/ Lowko's intro of Dream....this man's got the gift.
ghost need minor nerfs. like a range nerf or a nerf on the snipe function...
That was a grand game
When you say: "I have been recommended this match by so many players!" I'm like: meeeaahhh... another boring shit coming right up.
BUT MAN! THIS WAS INTENSE! Omg best game I have watched this year!
Those Thors remind me of Goliaths from broodwar which stuck all the time and literally suck at walking.
I never understood the appeal of pro gaming, because ultimately their basic systems lead me to want to play for fun over competition.
Watching the Pro's play this game, I can surely say this game DESERVES it's legendary status.
You are 100% right Lowko, why do any other pro leagues even exist compared to this.
Fun fact: For a Thors Missile Launcher to be worth it over the High Impact Payload, he needs to hit at least 5 Broodlords at once with each volley.
The shorter range is a big issue though, considering hew was already struggling to get more than a few thors in range even with high-impact. I know it's only a bit shorter, but that bit counts a lot.
Of course, the damage form missiles is also more frontloaded too, which might be a help...
@@FireCrack I didn't even think of missile damage being frontloaded more. However, they just deal 20 damage and attack more than 3 times slower. If getting in range is an issue, especially if the opponent micros the broodlords bac? you would want to take the option that gets the most damage in while possible, which is high impact. Consider also that missile damage falls of later in the fight when unit numbers get lower and there are fewer targets for splash damage.
19:49, how gor Reynor up to 201 Supply?
Build a structure, then build a unit, when you have 200 supply, cancel the structure and you will have 201 cause you get the drone back
@@shayden598 thanks
Wowww what a finish!
The map looks like a chapter of the terran campaigns
On paper Dream should have won this match as Thors hard counter Broodlords these days. The thing is Reynor is the superior player and it didn't help that Dream forgot his armory upgrades. So somehow Reynor pulled a rabbit out of his hat.
Love Reynor's call to make infestors with those broodlords. Killer combo.
Nice, 4k quality
WHAT A GAME BRO
Insane game holy crap