I hate that all modern FPS games have glint as a 100% occurrence rate and visible from an unlimited distance!! I knew this couldn't be that common in real life! Excellent video thank you.
I mean vey few video games are realistic and the games also need to be balalnced. So sniper's have glint, leave a visible trail and shotguns are strictly for close combat with their piss poor range. The same reason, women play in women's league and men play in men's. Balance.
Hello Aaron, I was surprised also as I could not get that Kahles scope to produce a glint. You could certainly see the mirror though. That was a fun one.
You are welcome. Yes, the ARD killflash does work and we have another video on the same topic coming out regarding scope detection at night. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the test. This is pretty much the perfect environment for seeing scope glint and still you can't see anything. Even the big flat mirror was just barely noticeable for a few split seconds. A very rare encounter that was blown up by videogames (for game balance) and fudds passing along myths as they often do. The real life stories could very well be mistaken, noticing other shiny objects rather than the scope glass itself. I noticed your movement and light off your bright tan jacket on the left side view more than any glint from the scope.
Awesome video I appreciate the work that you put into it. I can tell you from experience that wrist mounted GPS will and do flash the sun (incredibly bright) and it is very very noticeable to the naked eye at extended ranges way further than 500yds away . Also if you can see the sun in your field of view while looking through your scope it is reflecting light/flashing somewhere. But it isn’t just the flash of light that will give you away, there’s a “glow” inside the scope that unnatural (light is bouncing around inside the lens inside the scope)and to the moderately trained eye is very noticeable if they are observing you through binos or a spotting scope. A sunshade or ARD or tape/pantyhose with a hole in front of the scope helps a lot or even some grass shoved in the adjective lens.
This is very good information Joseph. Thank you for letting me know. Is the detectable light from a scope dependent upon the viewers angle relative to the scope? Or would a person watching through a spotting scope be able to detect it anywhere in their vicinity. Do you think a sunshade is just as effective as a kill-flash ARD?
The glint. I was kooking at it the whole time during the traverse but it vanished in the up and down. Noticable with a good eye on grainy video. If you're looking and have good eyes you can notice the scope. The scope glint is like a pale greyish white squarish shape in the video. It was so obvious to me that i didn't even notice till it went away in the up and down. Thought it was an object by the table.
You suppose all this scope glint/ mirroring effect started with Carlos Hathcock taking out an enemy sniper before the sniper took him out because he identified the enemy's scope glint seconds before he took him out? Both shooters had each other in their crosshairs! Carlos got off his shot, which went through the advisory's scope tube into his eye, then brain! Hell of a shot by any standards!
I think much of the concern about scope glint comes from video games like Call of Duty and Battlefield. Someone likely got the idea after hearing about Carlos' story. He was a great one. I think today's scope are much better and with all the coatings are pretty difficult to see a glint.
@@JesusMySavior78 None the I know of. But this test shows that scope glint is not as common as many believe. What is used is a kill flash device like that made by Tennebrex. Snipers have also built "birds nests" in front of the scopes objective to break up the glass signature and reduce the chance of glint. There are other techniques as well.
So, I actually did see the scope glint but it was so small and miniscule that you would have to be trained to detect it. You can see it at 2:34 a little white spot appears and disappears.
I assume you can improve the results by using a basic sunshade (not a honeycomb filter) as a cheap upgrade, and if youre really still worried about glint just get some pantyhose or netting you pull over the objective.
Yes, those are good techniques worth knowing about. I am not worried about it personally, just thought it would be a good test and help dismiss some myths. Thanks for watching and posting.
@@sdkweber I'm a little more worried about it, because in Airsoft games the targets can shoot back I have a 3.5-10x44 scope on my replica that I often use to simply spot and identify other players at up to 400m (440yd) and not getting seen is kinda useful. Up until recently I used a kill flash honeycomb filter, however they darken the image of the scope to much for low light conditions, so I removed it again and now I use a sunshade and some camo tape that I can pull over the lense depending on situation
@@IronPhysik I see. I heard the pantyhose trick works really well. Pull it over the objective and then add the sunshade or a ranger band. Others build a bird's nest in front of the objective, but with that technique you better not move too much.
No worries. I tried to point the scope directly into the camera during this test as well as directly into the sun. I am really not seeing glint. Thanks for watching and posting.
I hate that all modern FPS games have glint as a 100% occurrence rate and visible from an unlimited distance!! I knew this couldn't be that common in real life! Excellent video thank you.
You are welcome. And thank you for watching and posting.
Exactly. At every angle. It's pretty much a flash light lol
@@ryan_trice To be fair that's just because otherwise Snipers would be OP in fps games
I mean vey few video games are realistic and the games also need to be balalnced. So sniper's have glint, leave a visible trail and shotguns are strictly for close combat with their piss poor range. The same reason, women play in women's league and men play in men's. Balance.
@@khonjel_singhIs real life war balanced?
gotta love when modern FPS games add sniper glint to any sort've weather conditions including through smokes, indoors, and at night
sort of*
Great idea for a video, thanks for sharing! Certainly not the results that I was expecting but that was based on Hollywood depictions.
Hello Aaron, I was surprised also as I could not get that Kahles scope to produce a glint. You could certainly see the mirror though. That was a fun one.
Man, great video, I was expecting you'd have more people watching at this point. Thanks for making it. Have a good one.
You are welcome and thanks for watching. I too wish we had some more views on this but that's the way it is I guess. Take care.
Thank you so much for this video no one else tested this
Trying to see if killflashes are even worth it or gimmick
You are welcome. Yes, the ARD killflash does work and we have another video on the same topic coming out regarding scope detection at night. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the test. This is pretty much the perfect environment for seeing scope glint and still you can't see anything. Even the big flat mirror was just barely noticeable for a few split seconds. A very rare encounter that was blown up by videogames (for game balance) and fudds passing along myths as they often do. The real life stories could very well be mistaken, noticing other shiny objects rather than the scope glass itself. I noticed your movement and light off your bright tan jacket on the left side view more than any glint from the scope.
Good points. And movement, even slight, is a terrible give-away. Thanks for watching and posting.
Think the two shimmering light blocks are his arms changing angle, can see his hair too when he props onto his elbows.
Awesome video I appreciate the work that you put into it. I can tell you from experience that wrist mounted GPS will and do flash the sun (incredibly bright) and it is very very noticeable to the naked eye at extended ranges way further than 500yds away . Also if you can see the sun in your field of view while looking through your scope it is reflecting light/flashing somewhere. But it isn’t just the flash of light that will give you away, there’s a “glow” inside the scope that unnatural (light is bouncing around inside the lens inside the scope)and to the moderately trained eye is very noticeable if they are observing you through binos or a spotting scope. A sunshade or ARD or tape/pantyhose with a hole in front of the scope helps a lot or even some grass shoved in the adjective lens.
This is very good information Joseph. Thank you for letting me know. Is the detectable light from a scope dependent upon the viewers angle relative to the scope? Or would a person watching through a spotting scope be able to detect it anywhere in their vicinity.
Do you think a sunshade is just as effective as a kill-flash ARD?
Great test!
Thanks Jasonrad.
I just saw one video. Was really noticable as a guy used binoculars. Was looking towards the su.
Interesting. The glint was from the binoculars?
The glint. I was kooking at it the whole time during the traverse but it vanished in the up and down.
Noticable with a good eye on grainy video.
If you're looking and have good eyes you can notice the scope.
The scope glint is like a pale greyish white squarish shape in the video. It was so obvious to me that i didn't even notice till it went away in the up and down. Thought it was an object by the table.
You suppose all this scope glint/ mirroring effect started with Carlos Hathcock taking out an enemy sniper before the sniper took him out because he identified the enemy's scope glint seconds before he took him out? Both shooters had each other in their crosshairs! Carlos got off his shot, which went through the advisory's scope tube into his eye, then brain! Hell of a shot by any standards!
I think much of the concern about scope glint comes from video games like Call of Duty and Battlefield. Someone likely got the idea after hearing about Carlos' story. He was a great one. I think today's scope are much better and with all the coatings are pretty difficult to see a glint.
So game shooting games that uses sniper is all a lie when it comes to seeing the glint of the sniper scope
Its certainly not as common as shown in the games and movies.
honestly in games? It's an amazing balancing element, snipers are really powerful and a scope glint allows others to have a response to that.
I didn’t see a big glint for the the scope but I only saw a white part moving where your position was so what’s that
The scope did not produce glint, but the handheld mirror reflected very well.
@@sdkweber is there any scopes with no anti glint on
@@JesusMySavior78 None the I know of. But this test shows that scope glint is not as common as many believe.
What is used is a kill flash device like that made by Tennebrex. Snipers have also built "birds nests" in front of the scopes objective to break up the glass signature and reduce the chance of glint. There are other techniques as well.
thank you !!
You are welcome. This was a pretty fun video to make.
i think you missed your control variable with the scope. the exact angle of the mirror glint should've been matched with the scope.
So, I actually did see the scope glint but it was so small and miniscule that you would have to be trained to detect it.
You can see it at 2:34 a little white spot appears and disappears.
Thanks for watching and posting. Good eye. I am nearly certain using an ARD would pretty much eliminate the glare.
well if you look very closely you can actually see a little glint from the scope, but not as much from the mirror 😂
Please test at night time too
I assume you can improve the results by using a basic sunshade (not a honeycomb filter) as a cheap upgrade, and if youre really still worried about glint just get some pantyhose or netting you pull over the objective.
Yes, those are good techniques worth knowing about. I am not worried about it personally, just thought it would be a good test and help dismiss some myths.
Thanks for watching and posting.
@@sdkweber I'm a little more worried about it, because in Airsoft games the targets can shoot back
I have a 3.5-10x44 scope on my replica that I often use to simply spot and identify other players at up to 400m (440yd) and not getting seen is kinda useful.
Up until recently I used a kill flash honeycomb filter, however they darken the image of the scope to much for low light conditions, so I removed it again and now I use a sunshade and some camo tape that I can pull over the lense depending on situation
@@IronPhysik I see. I heard the pantyhose trick works really well. Pull it over the objective and then add the sunshade or a ranger band. Others build a bird's nest in front of the objective, but with that technique you better not move too much.
cool video
Thanks for watching and posting Pejac.
Hey dumb question, if you scope directly to the camera, does it change anything ?
No worries. I tried to point the scope directly into the camera during this test as well as directly into the sun. I am really not seeing glint. Thanks for watching and posting.
Can you guys test it at night?
Yes, we are actually working on this right now.
Call of duty sniper glint is a hoax
Not entirely as glint can occur, but it is far more of a myth (hoax) than reality. Thanks for watching and posting.