Same, but my first was monarchs. I used them in duel links with some success, but I was always most successful stripping the whole deck down to Artemis, the best counter traps, and board wipes like drowning mirror force while I waited for Artemis.
What makes a control decks like Counter Angel fun is the skillful interactions that lead to the late game wins. When I play Counter Angel I'm not trying to just kill my opponent, but rather just control the game by disrupting my opponent's game plan. That disruption part is where the fun is because if you can do it, that'll further your strategy leading to oftentimes complex games where you basically have to know your opponent's deck practically better than they do. I
the problem is as he said, that when you only have counter traps like solemn strike in the backrow you cant strategically disrupt your opponent. you either negate every possible play he makes, or he will generate so much value that your monster gets overwhelmed.
@@mauer1 If all of your backrow cards are just counter traps, you have the ability to simply negate everything they do which at that point you've won anyways, but odds are you'll often just have 1 or 2. So the part I find fun are knowing which cards your opponent is using as bait and which cards I absolutely have to negate to stop their 11-card combo this turn. That is the strategy of Counter Angel.
@@Innerhype yeah but most modern decks don't have such simple choke points anymore. Either you have enough negates to completly stop there bord you are dead because even the last extender of something like snake eyes, probably builds a board big enough to beat your board.
Negate 5 times with a counter trap = Baaaad. Unfun design Negate 4 times with monster effects and 1 time with a counter trap = Good! Modern YuGiOh at it's most strategic and finest!
Everything you said about setting 5 counter traps and hoping your opponent doesn't have enough gas to play through it can be said about every deck that just ends on negates and floodgates, though. At least counter fairies doesn't pretend to be interactive by playing a game of solitaire to set up.
Im sitting here holding my old counter fairy deck, with my super artemises, watching this. Counter fairy is my favorite old deck, played it for years as it was all I had for that time, and lost so many matches but the ones I won were memorable and I wont forget it. Had an old dude give me these years ago when I was trying to get back into the game, and he wanted to get rid of his deck, sold me everything for 150 bucks. I think he wanted to leave the game and something was wrong with him, but I'll never forget him. Thank you Tomas, wherever you are.
I haven’t had a ton of success in Yugioh, but counter fairies have been the strategy that has been the consistently best one for me. My core strategy is shutting down whatever my opponent’s strategy is, and counter traps and their counter fairy support have paid dividends, especially in Duel Links and Master Duel.
There was a guy at my Locals called Clinton, he played Counter Fairies and Six Samurai and EVERYONE feared BOTH of them! Or at least, the ones with brains, sense or both did! The ones that didn't... I even faced his Six Samurai with a Custom Deck and almost Decked him out! Jus one more Turn, that was all I needed, jus one more Turn... No, seriously, I could have Drawn and then simply ended - I Win: Deck Out!
@@Off-with-a-bang I dont think counter fairys is anyones favourite deck.. it just is a great deck to start on due to the siimplicity and percieved power
Thank you for the vid, i liked counterfairies The list is quite simple actually: 1. Starter; a summon that sets counter trap if sanctuary is up 2. Draw power, shuffle a combination of fairy+counter or draw more per set S/T if sanctuary is up etc. 3. Floodgate; if any of both SS the opposite gets to set a countertrap if sanctuary is up then draw 4. Utility, a makyura like effect to activate only countertrap from the hand with extra cost of discarding. 5. Alternative boss, summonable for free with condition of 3 successful negate with tribute cost. Generic 6. More recoveries, a simple SS from gy if negate or send a set card to SS etc. 7. Boss. Actual extra dex boss that has omninegate, protects sanctuary and fills fuels more countertraps Hope future support can at least provide these
Idea for a Counter Fairy that “shapeshifts” while on the field or in the GY each time a Counter Trap is used: _Charcoal Changeling_ (FIRE) Level 1 Fairy/Effect _While this card is face-up on the field or in the GY, each time a Counter Trap is activated (Quick Effect), you can banish up to 6 other monsters from your hand, field and/or GY; While this card is on the field or in the GY, this card’s name, attribute(s), type, effect, ATK and/or DEF are changed to any of those monster’s._ ATK/? DEF/200 So basically, you can Min-Max this card by taking the best combination of qualities from your other monsters and make it into one monster.
I'd add cards that'd have additional effects based on what was negated, or if Sanc in the Sky was on the field. Something like "Discard 1 card, negate the activation/effect of a card and destroy it. If Sanctuary in the Sky is on the field, search your deck for a card that mentions Sanctuary in the Sky and add it to your hand". Or something like "Negate the activation/effect of card your opponent controls, then apply the following effect based on what was negated. Monster - Return the negated card to the deck Spell - Your opponent can't activate cards with the same name for the rest of the turn Trap - Inflict 1500 damage to your opponent"
the issue with them is that they are too defensive, turn 1 they are great but turn 2 against an established board, your counter traps are worthless. you need to go first and draw well, and even then the good counter traps go minus anyways, so at best you go even. unless you have the new pendulum card ofc, but back in the day when there were no pendulums, they were even more unplayable. you basically have to go first and open exodia to even have a chance at winning.
Every time a mechanic or archetype failed, I guess Konami thinked that on the card it was good but on the practice was a failure... and forgotten about that and repeat with something else.
in some cases the mechanic/deck is just doomed from the start because either it doesnt have any direction it canbe deisnged in, ors it presents a mechanic that is outright toxic tothe game and shouldnt be allowed ot become a deck. in their Credit Konami does try to make said deck usable, but often they have ot overtune cards into uselessness....stillbetter than the flip side of making cards that have no business being generic(like anaconda and the sprite Extra deck)
I don't think it's a case of thinking it's was good but it wasn't, i think that Konami was aware that this kind of deck wasn't great from the start. It's more a will to propose original tactics. Not every strategy are made to be top tiers meta, but just to propose fun alternative to play the game, and that kind of thing is needed to make the game refreshing.
@@Animexdraco counter fairies specifically also have another problem that prevents from being made "good" they are a primarly LIGHT Fairy Deck, worse, they are a control deck that can loop its monsters, which puts right in the sights of the Herald Strategy(and generic ritual support meant ot fill your hand with fairies) with such flexible engines just outside of their reach you finally have the game ender for most fairy decks that can play it: Archlord Krystia.
The "counter" part of this reminded me of a duel. My opponent did their "special summon multiple times" in turn one to get their monster out, then attacked my face down. Since it was online, I didn't get to see their face when I flipped it to reveal Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter, meaning all that they did got them nothing but the monster that they spent all those resources to summon sent to the graveyard.
I played them when learning about Yu-Gi-Oh on Duel Links when Darklords was the top tier. Although, very slow, stopping an opponent's play with Rebirth of Parsath is the most satisfying moment I've had.
I've been playing Counter Fairies since they were reprinted in Dark Legends, which is quite some time. It's my favorite deck and one I've tried to keep current over the years. To be honest, in order to keep up with the current meta it would need some archetype specific Counter Traps that could be used the turn they are set (as long as you have a Counter Fairy/Sanctuary in the Sky on the field). Traps are inherently slow and considered bad by the majority of the player base. Being able to use them on the first turn for an archetype centered around them is what it needs to compete
I can understand why Counter Fairies can't be good. Counters Fairies are designed to work with any Counter Trap card, and there's a reason there aren't generic Counter Trap searchers. Yugioh's already a game where going second without a dedicated going second deck means you probably lose. Hyper consistent Counter Fairies would mean you better open with three Red Reboots if you went second.
yup, it's kinda scary to imagine Red Reboot (or even Solemn Judgement) being really consistent. If only there'll Counter Fairy support that can become a "Labrynth" version of Counter Traps it'll good or maybe too broken
@@SoloQueueGamer that's makes sense, even the monster Type are entirely different, both CF and Labrynth are archetype about supporting around Traps (CF for Counter Trap and Lab are for Normal Trap)
@@MrPikminmaster Counter Trap would become too strong if they got support similar as Lab but specificly for Counter Trap so yeah it makes sense if u think they're "purposely" make it bad
I have a sort of counter fairy deck - and you're right, it's repetitive and bricky. I just love the art, though. And I love the concept. I know it doesn't work. But in my heart where tiered Yugioh play is real it has a place to call home. Probably against Fish Banish or something 😆
Always wanted to play these, too bad. Also wanted to say I love these videos a lot, Duel Logs and your great writers (Lepprince for this one) I really appreciate you all making this. Especially cool niche stuff like this! Great work.
I remember designing a boss monster for Counter Fairies with an effect that was broken, yet creative. It was one you reviewed quite some time ago. Zeragantz, the Hand of Retribution You may Special Summon this card (from your hand) by sending 3 Counter Traps with different names from your deck to the GY. Your opponent pays any costs you would normally pay to activate counter traps (this is not optional). If "The Sanctuary in the Sky" is on the field, any counter traps you control that successfully activate and resolve are set instead of being removed from the field. Because the cost portion isn't optional, you can't activate a counter trap if your opponent can't pay the cost. And due to the rule that a Trap card can't be activated the turn it's set, you'd want a variety of counter traps on your field that could each only be activated once per turn. Perhaps a card like this with a few balance adjustments and some extenders would make Counter Fairy decks a much more playable
The biggest problem is that at the time Counter Fairies became a thing, the only worthwhile non-sidedeck Counter Trap was Solemn Judgment. In order to make Counterfairies work, you had to either run sidedeck Counter Traps in your main deck like Pulling the Rug, or you had to run sub-optimal cards like Drastic Drop Off. By the time better Counter Traps came out, they hadn't updated the Fairy part, so it had completely fallen off already. The bizarre thing to me is how they combined it with banish support, most notably layard but in the same pack as Layard was also Miraculous Descent to give an example. Why hadn't they made a Counter Trap that works by banishing Fairies from the GY? Something like a Dark Bribe that requires you to banish 2 Fairies instead of make your opponent draw (and some restriction that the banished Fairies are unaffected by card effects that turn, to prevent immediate recursion from an already face-up Layard). That would have done an amazing job in stitching the deck together.
Ah yes the first archetype I played when I got back into Yugioh in 2019, just because I wanted a Fairy deck and the guy from the OTS told me to play this It took a year to realize MST doesn't negate after being exposed to all the Counter Traps
I remember these cards from a long time ago and tbh I never even knew they even had this much support, I knew they got a new structure deck but didn't think Konami actively invested trying to make it an archetype afterwards or even before
Never knew Path of Radiance wasn't released in the TCG, used it a lot in the YUGIOH 5Ds Games for the Nintendo DS, where it was quite strong with Neo Parshath, quite easily goining 8000+ AtK strong if you included simple but big Life Point gains like the equip spell Cestus of Dagla
Idea for a Counter Trap that, while having weaker individual effects, would be on a hair trigger, and can even be activated from your hand, GY AND banishment: _Reactive Countermeasures_ Counter Trap _You can activate this card from your hand, GY or Banishment by banishing 1 card from your field or GY., and if you do, you can, after it’s effects resolve, add it to your hand, send it to your GY OR banish it. If your opponent places a card on the field, declares an attack and/or activates a card or effect: Apply 1 of the following effects._ _⚪️Increase or Decrease your LP by 1000._ _⚪️Discard 1 card, then Draw 1 card._ _⚪️Change the battle position of 1 monster on the field._ _⚪️Shuffle 1 card from your hand, field, GY and/or Banishment into your deck._
Im getting back into yugioh for the first time in like 20 years and im hooked on your vids. Thankfully i havent seen the amazoness cards on a failed video yet! Lol
I do play Counter Fairies and have won a couple Local Tournaments. Time Tearing Morganite, Extravagance, & Heavenly Prison are the only ways I've gotten by. Valkyria, is good for reducing the very limited number of fairies I already have so on my next draw their's more chance of pulling a Pot or Counter. I must say they just need a Fairy that says, "When your Counter Trap card effect resolves, Set one Counter Trap from your deck Face Down." Hopefully w/ "You can Activate that set card the same turn, while you control Sanctuary in the Sky."
Nowadays you can use celestial transformation to trigger Ariadne. Set it on your turn then use it to summon Ariadne on the opponent's turn and it's either slain in battle or is destroyed(explodes) by the effect of transformation, triggering Ariadne's searching effect. This is even faster if you run 2 Celestial transformation and 3 Guiding Ariadne. As you can effectively pick and choose when and which counter trap you add to your hand. Ariadne also doesn't have a name limitation (i.e. 'with different names' in her text box) to her search, so you can reveal 3 copies of the same counter trap forcing the opponent to add a specific card that you need(I.e a solemn card). Pretty spiffy effect both in and out of a fairy type deck. For example you could in a current modern(at time of commenting)format create a hybrid between fairies and labrynth which would have by design, chaos synergy capability meaning you can add any of chaos dragon levianeer, B.L.S- envoy of the beginning, chaos sorcerer and even Chaos Hunter to ruin your opponent's day.(Chaos hunter especially with current meta loving banishment effects. So turning that off on a body stronger than most common monsters is a great choice to control the duel field.) You could also consider cards like Darklord Nurse Reficule if running cards like soul taker to pop an opponent's monster and deal 1000 damage.(Nurse Reficule converts gaining 1000 LP into taking effect damage equal to the gain.) an Axe Of Despair to back up a Chaos package is also a good idea(Chaos Hunter at 3500 Atk would beat over most troublesome monsters for example.)
Counter Fairies was my 3rd deck in Master Duel. I'd use Agent of Venus to turbo out Link Airknight with Shine Balls to search Fallen Sanctuary (a Sanctuary in the Sky that places a trap that mentions it on activation, and can 1/turn banish a Fairy from GY to target negate a monster). Then, if I could get off Airknight's summon from hand effect, I'd put down a Counter Fairy and link off my last Shine Ball with Airknight for either Avramax or Unchained Abomination. It made for a pretty decent board and I had a lot of fun with it for a while. Also, Ties of the Brethren really helps to turbo out some of the other Counter Fairies so no matter which you start with, you can end with at least Meltiel and Artemis.
The counter fairy deck had two mayor things againts it, ariadne was 1600, no shining angels no nova no sangan. So the best card in the deck was unsearchable. And number 2, when it came out the best counter trap was either banned or at 1. Then they kept limiting the solemn cards.
Its the Snake Rain paradox then. It can only exist as either the busted broken unfair frustrating deck to play against or something you just walkthrough with ease. MAgical Musketeer comes to mind. That decks feels like toxic aspects of Counter Trap Fairies with Psy-Frames. I'd say I like this deck but really its just the Sanctury in the Sky theming. Besides this and all the Umi stuff there aren't any Field Spells with dedicated support around like this. A real missed opportunity.
Seriously, these Counter Fairies (namely the Artemis and the like), and Harald cards have my absolute FAVORITE design when it comes to Fairy monsters. It’s just such a shame their beautiful, not really robotic but also not really organic aesthetic is wasted on such an awkward mechanic. It’s actually the types of monsters that influences the way I drew some of the fairies in my work.
I ran this type of deck back when i played as a sorta salvage deck. i was building a deck around cyber stein and built a life gain deck which included a lot of fairys and counter traps. My brillient idea was to summon things like blue eyes ultimate dragon and steamroll. Cyber stein was banned 2 before i got his card in the mail and i did not know til i tried playing the deck. With him gone the deck was gutted and another played traded my Agents saturn and Mars which i rebuilt the deck around. (been a very long time since i played} basicly the deck would lock down the field til i had enough LP to one shot with saturn or mars I played in 1 turnament and got paied against a Amazoness deck focused on locking down the field. we locked things down to the point where we ended out first match (best of 3} as everyone else was finishing their last match, i wanna say we took almost 40 minutes. we were forced to pitch cards to the gy from our hands because nether of us could unlock the field. I eventually did win but as thats the only match i recall from that night im guessing i got slaughtered like the cute baby seal i was lol Their cards in this video i would have loved for the deck but never knew existed. I added uraya (the dragon you summon by tributing 3 counter traps) just to get me out of my own field locks after that. Only now a days did i ever really understand how unviable my deck was. Sadly only so much cash and i could not run yu gi oh and magic and went magic.
There was a card that had an "activate trap from hand" effect and it got banned quickly before being errata'd into being unusable. I can't remember the name for the life of me.
i made a counter fairy/stall/burn deck thats pretty good in master duel. the best of 1 format means no sidedeck which helps both counter fairies and burn a lot. heavy trap usage too.
If I was asked to design support for this deck to make it playable, I'd give it these cards: - Their own dedicated counter trap, an omni-negate that requires you to banish a fairy from your hand/field/gy and is playable from your hand if you control the Sanctuary. - A field spell that swarms your field with fairies, gains you advantage each time you activate a counter trap, and substitutes itself for the Sanctuary. - An easy to summon boss monster that uses counter traps from your hand/field/gy as shields to protect itself, and allows you to activate one of them by banishing it on a hard opt while you control the Sanctuary, also can float into any Parshath monster from the deck.
Ngl Counter Faires getting shafted is probably one of Komoney's best ideas. Counter Traps maybe slow but beating out everything and not being able to be reacted to is what makes cards like Super Poly busted. Imagine giving 2024 era level support to this premise but with fairy bodies attached to it. It can stay dead
this could work but only if these traps actuallyp lay into a proper archtype. if you htink handtraps were a badthing, having generic access to playing solemn's from hand is just that compounded into BS.
Why is everyone in Yugioh so afraid of basic counterspell mechanic from MTG? Solemn Judgement is fair because it halves your lp. Why can't traps have a chance?
@@edpaolosalting9116 because these arent just " traps", they are counter traps which normally cannot be responded outside of other counter traps. the issue starts with guiding ariadne being somewhat generic as a pendulum, that card alone turns off the cost of counter traps. the onlything keeping that in check is that traps need to be set 1st.
I had a good amount of success back in the day with counter fairies. Won many locals and got my first invite from a regional with it. I’m sad to this day that I didn’t use it at a shonen jump in New Jersey. Probably would have done way better had I used it.
Can we all agree we need a counter fairy monster effect that treat itself as the name Sanctuary in the Sky. Beside that I hope in the future they make more parshath, Archlord, and retain/upgrage version of Agent like Mar, Mercury, and Saturn.
I understand that Konami probably wont make Counter Fairies any good, but i would love some Parshath support, because the Parshath cards have such cool art, and some more would be great.
just like "most" trap decks, counter fairies suffer inherently from how slow it is. unless they release an archetype/card that allows them to set the traps turn 0 (like lab) or activate them from the hand (like magical musketeer, even they're also struggling), the steep costs will keep them away from relevance
I won quite alot against branded with counter fairies in master duel. Guiding ariadne and cursed seal of the forbidden spell made them quit when they realized their spells weren't usable anymore.
I've played this deck a whole bunch and honestly the biggest issues I have are no search power, no going 2nd cards, and no win condition. It can pop off hard when you get the engine rolling but even if you are lucky enough to go first and set up artemis or the pend scale with 2 counter traps, some of them will just not come up right away. Like you could have 2x divine wrath vs your opponent's harpies or 2x judgement and the huge revolution is over vs an opponent's activated hand summon effect like longyun (which you cant judgement). Fun deck to play and pop off with but not competitive.
@@toumabyakuya if that is what he meant it is poorly conceived and makes no sense considering that counter fairies are one of the first "archetypes" it isn't even a real archetype but more of "group of cards that have these two things in common... mostly"
I rather play Dinomorphia to be honest They have a slight focus on Counter traps and the feel more like defensive manouvers rather than just negating whatever your opponent does (they do still omni negate a lot with solemn cards, but rely less than counter fairies) I like that the deck has a different playstyle, tho kinda sad they rely so much on rexterm as a floodgate mainly
How to fix them? So you've heard the tired old "give them circular" or "give them poplar" but how about give them popircular! Send a fairy and counter trap from deck to GY to special summon a this card from hand. If this card is normal or special summoned add a counter trap or fairy from your GY to your hand. If a counter trap is activated while you control this card add a fairy from deck to hand. If a fairy is normal or special summoned while you control this card add a counter trap to hand. If this card is sent to the GY you can target 1 counter trap in your GY set it to your side of the field. You can only use each effect of "When The Artemis is Bountiful" thrice per turn. What level? Idk, what rank has the funniest xyz requiring 3 monsters?
Counter Fairies are in that awkward place where they can't really be made to be good as they'd be easily broken, what with the power of searching Counter Traps would be like
But why? Why can't traps combat monster spamming at their speed? Why can't traps be on equal footing? Im a creature guy in other TCGs but the monster spamming here in Yugioh made me sick so I became control. Why do you fear traps becoming fast as monster effects?
@@edpaolosalting9116 Because spamming huge monsters is a drug and every reminder that it's a two player game is despised. The problem of a format where Aggro and midgame don't exist.
I just enjoy angel themed decks. Agents and Parshath might not be strong but dang, slap them together in a deck with counter traps and laugh And sometimes cry, their boss monsters are less than desired :)
I think this is the first of the "failed archetypes" series I kind of disagree with. Counter Fairies can be annoying as hell and a solid anti-meta pick, so long as it's a format in which cards like the Solemns and Red Reboot are useful. Bonus points for being able to natively slap in Archlord Krystra as a floodgate/boss monster without jumping through hoops. The only reason it doesn't see play right now is because of how insanely recursive the last few formats have been, between Tear and Snake-Eyes. One-time negates like the Solemns haven't been good, but that doesn't mean they won't become good again next time the meta shifts. Though, I suppose the archetype directly competes with Labrynth now. Nothing competes with Lab for control strats.
@@basty_gaming5750 Nah, it's not the searching they need. IN addition to the Solemn brigade they can make use of Divine Punishment (omni-negate that needs Sanctuary to activate) and Divine Wrath (Trap version of Orange Light), not to mention the ever-popular Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell. You don't need that much searching when you're running that many stun options, what you need is ways to recycle them. That's what Lab does. The pop effects Lab uses are honestly kinda weak, but they can do them all day without regard for strategy or conservation. Counter Fairies doing the same thing would be absolutely miserable to play against. A deck that would be miserable to play against cannot be called "failed", unless we're talking in terms of game balance.
Honestly they only really need to give Counter Fairies like, 3 good cards for them to work, even without being an archetype They need a counter-trap that searches a light fairy on resolution, but can only be activated if Sanctuary in the Sky is on board, a fairy that discards itself to add a Sanctuary in the Sky or a Counter Trap to the hand, and a boss that can be summoned in a similar way to the usual suspects, or another synchro Parshath, that lets you set a different named counter trap based on what you negated- if you negated a monster, set a horn, if you negated a spell, set, I dunno, something else, MAYBE a dark bribe or just a non-solemn, non-horn counter-trap, I dunno. But, if you somehow negated a trap, set a Solemn. They can't be activated the same turn, that way you set up plays, and DO actually have to kinda plan ahead. Do you use the discard fairy to add the sanctuary? Or do you add the counter-trap that summons Parshath? Do you run 3 copies of the trap that NEEDS Sanctuary, but gives card advantage, or do you keep it low so you don't brick as often? And since decks can play through a negate or two now-a-days, the new boss would also make you want to at least SOMEWHAT be careful what you negate- would a black horn of heaven be a good call to set for a following turn? Or would you want to save at least one negate to keep for a potential opponent's trap, so you can search out the all powerful solemn as a part of your own advantage? The only issue with all of this, is that there would be like, NO space in the backrow, ever. You have Ariadne in a pend zone, the parshath sanctuary in another, and only 3 spaces for counter traps, which since that's all you'll be working with that turn COULD mean ya don't have enough. I think it's a really unique IDEA for a deck, takes something powerful and generic, and turns it into a full gameplan, but, without more UNIQUE interactive pieces, and cards that aren't as intentionally limiting, it's too slow, and doesn't play nice with how modern yugioh works. If they were to be an entire Archetype, it's hard to say if you'd call them the Guiding or the Bountiful archetype, but to be honest, you could just say "Light Fairy that mentions counter traps" as the archetype's monster search, and then have a specific set of counter traps that all share a name, something like "Light Force" or "Angel Trap". I don't wanna actually put 'Counter' in the name, because Battlin' Boxers have a monster that can search "counter" counter traps, and even if it wouldn't work very well, it's still something to keep in mind as possible. Honestly a smaller idea I couldn't really fit into either of the others is a retrain of Guiding Ariadne, like, "Ariadne, The Guiding Light" or something. That could, instead of being a pendulum monster, could do something like Lord of the Heavenly Prison, maybe on an activation requirement instead of just for free though. Like if you activate a Counter Trap, reveal it, and then for the rest of the turn you don't have to pay the costs. That way you still have to pay the first traps' cost, but it stays in hand, so it's hard to interact with, and can be re-used theoretically infinitely. Or, they could just make a Sanctuary that lets you activate counter-traps from hand. Not cool or fun but, unique at least.
I get that support being announced after these vids is a running gag now but it’s getting kind of old when every other comment is in regards to just that.
“What? Counter Fairies? God no can you imagine if that was good? It would be awful. Someone just omni-negating all your plays, bleh. Anyway, Runick amiright? Now THATS a fun and interactive deck!”
Failed cards:Using the opponents cards against them. This would talk about things like Change of Heart or Graverobber. Cards that allowed you to take your opponents cards and use them against the opponent.
Imagine Konami drops Counter Fairies support right after this
Let's hope they do (˃̣̣̥▽˂̣̣̥)
Won’t be the first time (I think) there was a recent video that he was finishing (ice barriers) that support was announced
By that logic, Duel Logs needs to do a video on X Sabers immediately. Please 🥺
@@stampede122it also happened with genex and ursartics (i think)
Please!!!
Counter Fairies were the 2nd deck I built on master duel after it launched (1st was worms)
Mine might be an Accesscode Talker OTK Deck, then wave 1 Purrely, then Code Talker, then Swordsoul LOL, next Salamangreat with new wave of support
You forgot to mention that "condemned witch" is also a support card, because it can summon "bountiful artemis" from the deck
My first is just a slightly modified DM structure deck and I hopefully will build snake eyes.
Same, but my first was monarchs. I used them in duel links with some success, but I was always most successful stripping the whole deck down to Artemis, the best counter traps, and board wipes like drowning mirror force while I waited for Artemis.
Can you Do a Dragunity archtype Next? Because no one actually play these Cards
What makes a control decks like Counter Angel fun is the skillful interactions that lead to the late game wins. When I play Counter Angel I'm not trying to just kill my opponent, but rather just control the game by disrupting my opponent's game plan. That disruption part is where the fun is because if you can do it, that'll further your strategy leading to oftentimes complex games where you basically have to know your opponent's deck practically better than they do.
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the problem is as he said, that when you only have counter traps like solemn strike in the backrow you cant strategically disrupt your opponent. you either negate every possible play he makes, or he will generate so much value that your monster gets overwhelmed.
@@mauer1 If all of your backrow cards are just counter traps, you have the ability to simply negate everything they do which at that point you've won anyways, but odds are you'll often just have 1 or 2. So the part I find fun are knowing which cards your opponent is using as bait and which cards I absolutely have to negate to stop their 11-card combo this turn. That is the strategy of Counter Angel.
@@Innerhype yeah but most modern decks don't have such simple choke points anymore.
Either you have enough negates to completly stop there bord you are dead because even the last extender of something like snake eyes, probably builds a board big enough to beat your board.
Negate 5 times with a counter trap = Baaaad. Unfun design
Negate 4 times with monster effects and 1 time with a counter trap = Good! Modern YuGiOh at it's most strategic and finest!
Shhh, don't tell modern players that their interrupt and destruction is basically a fancy negate.
Summon Bountiful, set 4 and pass in 30 seconds, call the cops. Summon 4 beat sticks with inherent negates in 10 minutes; wins a Nobel prize.
Everything you said about setting 5 counter traps and hoping your opponent doesn't have enough gas to play through it can be said about every deck that just ends on negates and floodgates, though. At least counter fairies doesn't pretend to be interactive by playing a game of solitaire to set up.
Yep agreed on this.
On another note, Despite being a Control player, I respect Swordsoul enjoyers for ending their combos early and strong.
Im sitting here holding my old counter fairy deck, with my super artemises, watching this. Counter fairy is my favorite old deck, played it for years as it was all I had for that time, and lost so many matches but the ones I won were memorable and I wont forget it. Had an old dude give me these years ago when I was trying to get back into the game, and he wanted to get rid of his deck, sold me everything for 150 bucks. I think he wanted to leave the game and something was wrong with him, but I'll never forget him. Thank you Tomas, wherever you are.
I haven’t had a ton of success in Yugioh, but counter fairies have been the strategy that has been the consistently best one for me. My core strategy is shutting down whatever my opponent’s strategy is, and counter traps and their counter fairy support have paid dividends, especially in Duel Links and Master Duel.
Indeed, I was considering trying this some in duel links lol
i also love them, i really dig the fairies theme, but in all honesty they are bad going 1st and a bag of trash going second
There was a guy at my Locals called Clinton, he played Counter Fairies and Six Samurai and EVERYONE feared BOTH of them! Or at least, the ones with brains, sense or both did! The ones that didn't... I even faced his Six Samurai with a Custom Deck and almost Decked him out! Jus one more Turn, that was all I needed, jus one more Turn... No, seriously, I could have Drawn and then simply ended - I Win: Deck Out!
Duel Logs deliberately chose to talk about an "archetype" that probalby won't get support for another like 3 years
Congrats to Counter Fairies for coincidentally getting new support!!
Where was this announced?
My first ever deck was counter fairy so I’m sad to see it’s a part of the failed series
lol mine too
Me three, the Parshaths had some really cool designs.
Naw feel honored that Duel-logs decided to make a video discussing your favorite deck
@@Off-with-a-bang I dont think counter fairys is anyones favourite deck.. it just is a great deck to start on due to the siimplicity and percieved power
@@Otzkar
You're not wrong,considering I ran a deck of such back in the day lol
Thank you for the vid, i liked counterfairies
The list is quite simple actually:
1. Starter; a summon that sets counter trap if sanctuary is up
2. Draw power, shuffle a combination of fairy+counter or draw more per set S/T if sanctuary is up etc.
3. Floodgate; if any of both SS the opposite gets to set a countertrap if sanctuary is up then draw
4. Utility, a makyura like effect to activate only countertrap from the hand with extra cost of discarding.
5. Alternative boss, summonable for free with condition of 3 successful negate with tribute cost. Generic
6. More recoveries, a simple SS from gy if negate or send a set card to SS etc.
7. Boss. Actual extra dex boss that has omninegate, protects sanctuary and fills fuels more countertraps
Hope future support can at least provide these
I want a ‘solemn’ version of Condemned witch
Counter Fairy was my first "real" deck, and I loved it. Cemented my love for control decks.
Idea for a Counter Fairy that “shapeshifts” while on the field or in the GY each time a Counter Trap is used:
_Charcoal Changeling_ (FIRE)
Level 1
Fairy/Effect
_While this card is face-up on the field or in the GY, each time a Counter Trap is activated (Quick Effect), you can banish up to 6 other monsters from your hand, field and/or GY; While this card is on the field or in the GY, this card’s name, attribute(s), type, effect, ATK and/or DEF are changed to any of those monster’s._
ATK/? DEF/200
So basically, you can Min-Max this card by taking the best combination of qualities from your other monsters and make it into one monster.
I'd add cards that'd have additional effects based on what was negated, or if Sanc in the Sky was on the field.
Something like "Discard 1 card, negate the activation/effect of a card and destroy it. If Sanctuary in the Sky is on the field, search your deck for a card that mentions Sanctuary in the Sky and add it to your hand".
Or something like "Negate the activation/effect of card your opponent controls, then apply the following effect based on what was negated.
Monster - Return the negated card to the deck
Spell - Your opponent can't activate cards with the same name for the rest of the turn
Trap - Inflict 1500 damage to your opponent"
the issue with them is that they are too defensive, turn 1 they are great but turn 2 against an established board, your counter traps are worthless. you need to go first and draw well, and even then the good counter traps go minus anyways, so at best you go even. unless you have the new pendulum card ofc, but back in the day when there were no pendulums, they were even more unplayable. you basically have to go first and open exodia to even have a chance at winning.
Makes me miss the days when I ran Van Dalgyon with my dark bribe trap cards in 2005-2007
These were a pretty significant threat at the start of their run. It was hard to stop the counter traps
I dreaded this moment, from the very beggining of this series creation...
Look how he butchered my baby....
Every time a mechanic or archetype failed, I guess Konami thinked that on the card it was good but on the practice was a failure... and forgotten about that and repeat with something else.
in some cases the mechanic/deck is just doomed from the start because either it doesnt have any direction it canbe deisnged in, ors it presents a mechanic that is outright toxic tothe game and shouldnt be allowed ot become a deck.
in their Credit Konami does try to make said deck usable, but often they have ot overtune cards into uselessness....stillbetter than the flip side of making cards that have no business being generic(like anaconda and the sprite Extra deck)
Or sometimes their glory has gone in the passage of time.
I don't think it's a case of thinking it's was good but it wasn't, i think that Konami was aware that this kind of deck wasn't great from the start. It's more a will to propose original tactics. Not every strategy are made to be top tiers meta, but just to propose fun alternative to play the game, and that kind of thing is needed to make the game refreshing.
Would take 1 solid link to break them
@@Animexdraco counter fairies specifically also have another problem that prevents from being made "good"
they are a primarly LIGHT Fairy Deck, worse, they are a control deck that can loop its monsters, which puts right in the sights of the Herald Strategy(and generic ritual support meant ot fill your hand with fairies)
with such flexible engines just outside of their reach you finally have the game ender for most fairy decks that can play it: Archlord Krystia.
The "counter" part of this reminded me of a duel. My opponent did their "special summon multiple times" in turn one to get their monster out, then attacked my face down.
Since it was online, I didn't get to see their face when I flipped it to reveal Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter, meaning all that they did got them nothing but the monster that they spent all those resources to summon sent to the graveyard.
Probably something like this: 🤬🤬
I played them when learning about Yu-Gi-Oh on Duel Links when Darklords was the top tier. Although, very slow, stopping an opponent's play with Rebirth of Parsath is the most satisfying moment I've had.
I've been playing Counter Fairies since they were reprinted in Dark Legends, which is quite some time. It's my favorite deck and one I've tried to keep current over the years.
To be honest, in order to keep up with the current meta it would need some archetype specific Counter Traps that could be used the turn they are set (as long as you have a Counter Fairy/Sanctuary in the Sky on the field). Traps are inherently slow and considered bad by the majority of the player base. Being able to use them on the first turn for an archetype centered around them is what it needs to compete
I can understand why Counter Fairies can't be good. Counters Fairies are designed to work with any Counter Trap card, and there's a reason there aren't generic Counter Trap searchers. Yugioh's already a game where going second without a dedicated going second deck means you probably lose. Hyper consistent Counter Fairies would mean you better open with three Red Reboots if you went second.
yup, it's kinda scary to imagine Red Reboot (or even Solemn Judgement) being really consistent.
If only there'll Counter Fairy support that can become a "Labrynth" version of Counter Traps it'll good or maybe too broken
@@KuzumiyaRiku Labyrinth is kind of the successor of Counter Fairies. CF being the prototype while Lab being the Finished product.
yeah im honestly kind of glad this deck is bad because counter traps cant be responded to which is unfun.
@@SoloQueueGamer that's makes sense, even the monster Type are entirely different, both CF and Labrynth are archetype about supporting around Traps (CF for Counter Trap and Lab are for Normal Trap)
@@MrPikminmaster Counter Trap would become too strong if they got support similar as Lab but specificly for Counter Trap so yeah it makes sense if u think they're "purposely" make it bad
I have a sort of counter fairy deck - and you're right, it's repetitive and bricky. I just love the art, though. And I love the concept. I know it doesn't work. But in my heart where tiered Yugioh play is real it has a place to call home. Probably against Fish Banish or something 😆
Always wanted to play these, too bad. Also wanted to say I love these videos a lot, Duel Logs and your great writers (Lepprince for this one) I really appreciate you all making this. Especially cool niche stuff like this! Great work.
yeah i agree. This channel is very high quality.
Hey! You leave one of my favourite decks alone! Haha. Topping at my UK Nationals was definitely a highlight with this deck.
The thing is that Counter Faries are a sub archetyper for Sanctuary in the Sky.
I remember designing a boss monster for Counter Fairies with an effect that was broken, yet creative. It was one you reviewed quite some time ago.
Zeragantz, the Hand of Retribution
You may Special Summon this card (from your hand) by sending 3 Counter Traps with different names from your deck to the GY. Your opponent pays any costs you would normally pay to activate counter traps (this is not optional). If "The Sanctuary in the Sky" is on the field, any counter traps you control that successfully activate and resolve are set instead of being removed from the field.
Because the cost portion isn't optional, you can't activate a counter trap if your opponent can't pay the cost. And due to the rule that a Trap card can't be activated the turn it's set, you'd want a variety of counter traps on your field that could each only be activated once per turn.
Perhaps a card like this with a few balance adjustments and some extenders would make Counter Fairy decks a much more playable
This deck was actually one of my first decks.
The biggest problem is that at the time Counter Fairies became a thing, the only worthwhile non-sidedeck Counter Trap was Solemn Judgment. In order to make Counterfairies work, you had to either run sidedeck Counter Traps in your main deck like Pulling the Rug, or you had to run sub-optimal cards like Drastic Drop Off. By the time better Counter Traps came out, they hadn't updated the Fairy part, so it had completely fallen off already.
The bizarre thing to me is how they combined it with banish support, most notably layard but in the same pack as Layard was also Miraculous Descent to give an example. Why hadn't they made a Counter Trap that works by banishing Fairies from the GY? Something like a Dark Bribe that requires you to banish 2 Fairies instead of make your opponent draw (and some restriction that the banished Fairies are unaffected by card effects that turn, to prevent immediate recursion from an already face-up Layard). That would have done an amazing job in stitching the deck together.
Could eventually incorporate some of these into Melodious. I already run 2 Archlord Kristya, and it SLAYS.
It’s funny that every fairy monster in Enemy of Justice was clearly drawn by the same person.
Guiding Ariadne looks more like a Vylon monster.
@@mountainmgtow5421 Ariadne was definitely drawn by a different artist trying to match the old style.
Ah yes the first archetype I played when I got back into Yugioh in 2019, just because I wanted a Fairy deck and the guy from the OTS told me to play this
It took a year to realize MST doesn't negate after being exposed to all the Counter Traps
I remember these cards from a long time ago and tbh I never even knew they even had this much support, I knew they got a new structure deck but didn't think Konami actively invested trying to make it an archetype afterwards or even before
Never knew Path of Radiance wasn't released in the TCG, used it a lot in the YUGIOH 5Ds Games for the Nintendo DS, where it was quite strong with Neo Parshath, quite easily goining 8000+ AtK strong if you included simple but big Life Point gains like the equip spell Cestus of Dagla
This deck has a special place in my heart because the first actual cards I got were a few packs and the parshath structure deck
Idea for a Counter Trap that, while having weaker individual effects, would be on a hair trigger, and can even be activated from your hand, GY AND banishment:
_Reactive Countermeasures_
Counter Trap
_You can activate this card from your hand, GY or Banishment by banishing 1 card from your field or GY., and if you do, you can, after it’s effects resolve, add it to your hand, send it to your GY OR banish it. If your opponent places a card on the field, declares an attack and/or activates a card or effect: Apply 1 of the following effects._
_⚪️Increase or Decrease your LP by 1000._
_⚪️Discard 1 card, then Draw 1 card._
_⚪️Change the battle position of 1 monster on the field._
_⚪️Shuffle 1 card from your hand, field, GY and/or Banishment into your deck._
Im getting back into yugioh for the first time in like 20 years and im hooked on your vids. Thankfully i havent seen the amazoness cards on a failed video yet! Lol
I do play Counter Fairies and have won a couple Local Tournaments.
Time Tearing Morganite, Extravagance, & Heavenly Prison are the only ways I've gotten by.
Valkyria, is good for reducing the very limited number of fairies I already have so on my next draw their's more chance of pulling a Pot or Counter.
I must say they just need a Fairy that says, "When your Counter Trap card effect resolves, Set one Counter Trap from your deck Face Down." Hopefully w/ "You can Activate that set card the same turn, while you control Sanctuary in the Sky."
I really wish counter fairy’s were good. I love the aesthetic for a lot of them, and I loved using them back in the day
Nowadays you can use celestial transformation to trigger Ariadne. Set it on your turn then use it to summon Ariadne on the opponent's turn and it's either slain in battle or is destroyed(explodes) by the effect of transformation, triggering Ariadne's searching effect. This is even faster if you run 2 Celestial transformation and 3 Guiding Ariadne. As you can effectively pick and choose when and which counter trap you add to your hand. Ariadne also doesn't have a name limitation (i.e. 'with different names' in her text box) to her search, so you can reveal 3 copies of the same counter trap forcing the opponent to add a specific card that you need(I.e a solemn card). Pretty spiffy effect both in and out of a fairy type deck. For example you could in a current modern(at time of commenting)format create a hybrid between fairies and labrynth which would have by design, chaos synergy capability meaning you can add any of chaos dragon levianeer, B.L.S- envoy of the beginning, chaos sorcerer and even Chaos Hunter to ruin your opponent's day.(Chaos hunter especially with current meta loving banishment effects. So turning that off on a body stronger than most common monsters is a great choice to control the duel field.) You could also consider cards like Darklord Nurse Reficule if running cards like soul taker to pop an opponent's monster and deal 1000 damage.(Nurse Reficule converts gaining 1000 LP into taking effect damage equal to the gain.) an Axe Of Despair to back up a Chaos package is also a good idea(Chaos Hunter at 3500 Atk would beat over most troublesome monsters for example.)
Counter Fairies was my 3rd deck in Master Duel. I'd use Agent of Venus to turbo out Link Airknight with Shine Balls to search Fallen Sanctuary (a Sanctuary in the Sky that places a trap that mentions it on activation, and can 1/turn banish a Fairy from GY to target negate a monster). Then, if I could get off Airknight's summon from hand effect, I'd put down a Counter Fairy and link off my last Shine Ball with Airknight for either Avramax or Unchained Abomination. It made for a pretty decent board and I had a lot of fun with it for a while. Also, Ties of the Brethren really helps to turbo out some of the other Counter Fairies so no matter which you start with, you can end with at least Meltiel and Artemis.
The counter fairy deck had two mayor things againts it, ariadne was 1600, no shining angels no nova no sangan. So the best card in the deck was unsearchable. And number 2, when it came out the best counter trap was either banned or at 1. Then they kept limiting the solemn cards.
Its the Snake Rain paradox then. It can only exist as either the busted broken unfair frustrating deck to play against or something you just walkthrough with ease. MAgical Musketeer comes to mind. That decks feels like toxic aspects of Counter Trap Fairies with Psy-Frames.
I'd say I like this deck but really its just the Sanctury in the Sky theming. Besides this and all the Umi stuff there aren't any Field Spells with dedicated support around like this. A real missed opportunity.
Van'Dalgyon, my beloved
Seriously, these Counter Fairies (namely the Artemis and the like), and Harald cards have my absolute FAVORITE design when it comes to Fairy monsters. It’s just such a shame their beautiful, not really robotic but also not really organic aesthetic is wasted on such an awkward mechanic.
It’s actually the types of monsters that influences the way I drew some of the fairies in my work.
I always run the in Festivals if possible, and they work fine. Having Counter Traps in this MD meta is a game-saver.
I ran this type of deck back when i played as a sorta salvage deck. i was building a deck around cyber stein and built a life gain deck which included a lot of fairys and counter traps. My brillient idea was to summon things like blue eyes ultimate dragon and steamroll. Cyber stein was banned 2 before i got his card in the mail and i did not know til i tried playing the deck. With him gone the deck was gutted and another played traded my Agents saturn and Mars which i rebuilt the deck around. (been a very long time since i played} basicly the deck would lock down the field til i had enough LP to one shot with saturn or mars
I played in 1 turnament and got paied against a Amazoness deck focused on locking down the field. we locked things down to the point where we ended out first match (best of 3} as everyone else was finishing their last match, i wanna say we took almost 40 minutes. we were forced to pitch cards to the gy from our hands because nether of us could unlock the field. I eventually did win but as thats the only match i recall from that night im guessing i got slaughtered like the cute baby seal i was lol Their cards in this video i would have loved for the deck but never knew existed. I added uraya (the dragon you summon by tributing 3 counter traps) just to get me out of my own field locks after that.
Only now a days did i ever really understand how unviable my deck was. Sadly only so much cash and i could not run yu gi oh and magic and went magic.
This will always be one of my favorite non-Burn decks. I wish that there could be some way to make it good, but it's past its time.
17:35 god this was so brutal and funny holy shit I never heard you talk so bad about an archetype / deck but I loved it
imagine if they made runick fountain for counter traps.. shit would go hard
Imagine if Counter Fairy's got a card that allowed them to activate counter traps from the hand?
There was a card that had an "activate trap from hand" effect and it got banned quickly before being errata'd into being unusable. I can't remember the name for the life of me.
@@azuredragoon2054 Makyura the destructor, but that effect only last one turn so It still wouldnt help CF.
Make it a weak light fairy monster to parody hand-trap monsters lol
@@SoloQueueGamer They'd have to be super careful with the card if they want it playable without being auto ban/usable where it's not intended.
@@azuredragoon2054 Also "Traptrix Atrax" does this with "Hole" Normal Cards.
i made a counter fairy/stall/burn deck thats pretty good in master duel. the best of 1 format means no sidedeck which helps both counter fairies and burn a lot. heavy trap usage too.
If I was asked to design support for this deck to make it playable, I'd give it these cards:
- Their own dedicated counter trap, an omni-negate that requires you to banish a fairy from your hand/field/gy and is playable from your hand if you control the Sanctuary.
- A field spell that swarms your field with fairies, gains you advantage each time you activate a counter trap, and substitutes itself for the Sanctuary.
- An easy to summon boss monster that uses counter traps from your hand/field/gy as shields to protect itself, and allows you to activate one of them by banishing it on a hard opt while you control the Sanctuary, also can float into any Parshath monster from the deck.
Ngl Counter Faires getting shafted is probably one of Komoney's best ideas. Counter Traps maybe slow but beating out everything and not being able to be reacted to is what makes cards like Super Poly busted. Imagine giving 2024 era level support to this premise but with fairy bodies attached to it. It can stay dead
guess its time for counter fairy traps from the hand to be printed 👁️👄👁️
this could work but only if these traps actuallyp lay into a proper archtype.
if you htink handtraps were a badthing, having generic access to playing solemn's from hand is just that compounded into BS.
Why is everyone in Yugioh so afraid of basic counterspell mechanic from MTG?
Solemn Judgement is fair because it halves your lp.
Why can't traps have a chance?
@@edpaolosalting9116 because these arent just " traps", they are counter traps which normally cannot be responded outside of other counter traps.
the issue starts with guiding ariadne being somewhat generic as a pendulum, that card alone turns off the cost of counter traps. the onlything keeping that in check is that traps need to be set 1st.
Whoa Gellenduo was nowhere near as bad as Aegis of Gaia and some of the other secrets in Strike of Neos man! Doing him dirty like that
That rant was personal.
I had a good amount of success back in the day with counter fairies. Won many locals and got my first invite from a regional with it. I’m sad to this day that I didn’t use it at a shonen jump in New Jersey. Probably would have done way better had I used it.
I just used these Trap Fairies to dominate a Tenpai player. It felt soooo good to own that new deck.
"counter traps are not fun because they are interactive" Then proceeds to make a 10 negate board so the opponent can't play cause THAT is fun......
As a Counter Fairy duelist, this is painfully accurate.
Can we all agree we need a counter fairy monster effect that treat itself as the name Sanctuary in the Sky.
Beside that I hope in the future they make more parshath, Archlord, and retain/upgrage version of Agent like Mar, Mercury, and Saturn.
I understand that Konami probably wont make Counter Fairies any good, but i would love some Parshath support, because the Parshath cards have such cool art, and some more would be great.
just like "most" trap decks, counter fairies suffer inherently from how slow it is. unless they release an archetype/card that allows them to set the traps turn 0 (like lab) or activate them from the hand (like magical musketeer, even they're also struggling), the steep costs will keep them away from relevance
Arent the mystic shine ball and the agent monsters part of this "deck type"
Can you do the top ten best targets for greater polymerization
I won quite alot against branded with counter fairies in master duel. Guiding ariadne and cursed seal of the forbidden spell made them quit when they realized their spells weren't usable anymore.
I've played this deck a whole bunch and honestly the biggest issues I have are no search power, no going 2nd cards, and no win condition. It can pop off hard when you get the engine rolling but even if you are lucky enough to go first and set up artemis or the pend scale with 2 counter traps, some of them will just not come up right away. Like you could have 2x divine wrath vs your opponent's harpies or 2x judgement and the huge revolution is over vs an opponent's activated hand summon effect like longyun (which you cant judgement). Fun deck to play and pop off with but not competitive.
Love putting 3 bountiful, 3 of the pendulum and then like ever counter trap.
I wished the structure deck had more cards that had sanctuary in the sky in its text it would be cool to combine an agent and counter fairy deck.
congrats for Parshath deck user! new support coming your way
This is what happens when you emphasize more on quantity rather than quality
quantity? counter fairies barley have anything what quantity are we talking about?
@@DrakeSilver I think he meant the quantity of archetypes that exist right now.
I disagree. If quality was the only thing that mattered then we all would be playing the same 6 decks or so. Quantity gives spice to life.
@@toumabyakuya if that is what he meant it is poorly conceived and makes no sense considering that counter fairies are one of the first "archetypes" it isn't even a real archetype but more of "group of cards that have these two things in common... mostly"
@@DrakeSilver Hey, don't shoot the messenger here. All I did was explain his point.
Also, as you can see I also disagreed with him.
The thing counter fairies needed the most was something to do going second. I can’t negate my opponents stuff if I lose the die roll and go second.
I rather play Dinomorphia to be honest
They have a slight focus on Counter traps and the feel more like defensive manouvers rather than just negating whatever your opponent does (they do still omni negate a lot with solemn cards, but rely less than counter fairies)
I like that the deck has a different playstyle, tho kinda sad they rely so much on rexterm as a floodgate mainly
How to fix them? So you've heard the tired old "give them circular" or "give them poplar" but how about give them popircular!
Send a fairy and counter trap from deck to GY to special summon a this card from hand. If this card is normal or special summoned add a counter trap or fairy from your GY to your hand. If a counter trap is activated while you control this card add a fairy from deck to hand. If a fairy is normal or special summoned while you control this card add a counter trap to hand. If this card is sent to the GY you can target 1 counter trap in your GY set it to your side of the field. You can only use each effect of "When The Artemis is Bountiful" thrice per turn.
What level? Idk, what rank has the funniest xyz requiring 3 monsters?
Counter Fairies are in that awkward place where they can't really be made to be good as they'd be easily broken, what with the power of searching Counter Traps would be like
But why? Why can't traps combat monster spamming at their speed?
Why can't traps be on equal footing?
Im a creature guy in other TCGs but the monster spamming here in Yugioh made me sick so I became control.
Why do you fear traps becoming fast as monster effects?
Counter traps cannot be chained to, I guess that's why@@edpaolosalting9116
@@edpaolosalting9116 Because spamming huge monsters is a drug and every reminder that it's a two player game is despised. The problem of a format where Aggro and midgame don't exist.
Van dalgyon was one of my favorite cards in duel links. I really hope the deck becimes good again cause hes such a cool monster
Ah man and here I was grinding to make a counter fairy deck in legacy of duelist link evolution.
I just enjoy angel themed decks. Agents and Parshath might not be strong but dang, slap them together in a deck with counter traps and laugh
And sometimes cry, their boss monsters are less than desired :)
so at this point duellogs is just leaking the announcement of new archetypal support for counter fairies
I think this is the first of the "failed archetypes" series I kind of disagree with. Counter Fairies can be annoying as hell and a solid anti-meta pick, so long as it's a format in which cards like the Solemns and Red Reboot are useful. Bonus points for being able to natively slap in Archlord Krystra as a floodgate/boss monster without jumping through hoops. The only reason it doesn't see play right now is because of how insanely recursive the last few formats have been, between Tear and Snake-Eyes. One-time negates like the Solemns haven't been good, but that doesn't mean they won't become good again next time the meta shifts.
Though, I suppose the archetype directly competes with Labrynth now. Nothing competes with Lab for control strats.
Unless they could search counter traps in the entire game, then Lab might be a joke
@@basty_gaming5750 Nah, it's not the searching they need. IN addition to the Solemn brigade they can make use of Divine Punishment (omni-negate that needs Sanctuary to activate) and Divine Wrath (Trap version of Orange Light), not to mention the ever-popular Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell. You don't need that much searching when you're running that many stun options, what you need is ways to recycle them.
That's what Lab does. The pop effects Lab uses are honestly kinda weak, but they can do them all day without regard for strategy or conservation. Counter Fairies doing the same thing would be absolutely miserable to play against. A deck that would be miserable to play against cannot be called "failed", unless we're talking in terms of game balance.
Honestly they only really need to give Counter Fairies like, 3 good cards for them to work, even without being an archetype
They need a counter-trap that searches a light fairy on resolution, but can only be activated if Sanctuary in the Sky is on board, a fairy that discards itself to add a Sanctuary in the Sky or a Counter Trap to the hand, and a boss that can be summoned in a similar way to the usual suspects, or another synchro Parshath, that lets you set a different named counter trap based on what you negated- if you negated a monster, set a horn, if you negated a spell, set, I dunno, something else, MAYBE a dark bribe or just a non-solemn, non-horn counter-trap, I dunno. But, if you somehow negated a trap, set a Solemn. They can't be activated the same turn, that way you set up plays, and DO actually have to kinda plan ahead.
Do you use the discard fairy to add the sanctuary? Or do you add the counter-trap that summons Parshath? Do you run 3 copies of the trap that NEEDS Sanctuary, but gives card advantage, or do you keep it low so you don't brick as often? And since decks can play through a negate or two now-a-days, the new boss would also make you want to at least SOMEWHAT be careful what you negate- would a black horn of heaven be a good call to set for a following turn? Or would you want to save at least one negate to keep for a potential opponent's trap, so you can search out the all powerful solemn as a part of your own advantage? The only issue with all of this, is that there would be like, NO space in the backrow, ever. You have Ariadne in a pend zone, the parshath sanctuary in another, and only 3 spaces for counter traps, which since that's all you'll be working with that turn COULD mean ya don't have enough.
I think it's a really unique IDEA for a deck, takes something powerful and generic, and turns it into a full gameplan, but, without more UNIQUE interactive pieces, and cards that aren't as intentionally limiting, it's too slow, and doesn't play nice with how modern yugioh works.
If they were to be an entire Archetype, it's hard to say if you'd call them the Guiding or the Bountiful archetype, but to be honest, you could just say "Light Fairy that mentions counter traps" as the archetype's monster search, and then have a specific set of counter traps that all share a name, something like "Light Force" or "Angel Trap". I don't wanna actually put 'Counter' in the name, because Battlin' Boxers have a monster that can search "counter" counter traps, and even if it wouldn't work very well, it's still something to keep in mind as possible.
Honestly a smaller idea I couldn't really fit into either of the others is a retrain of Guiding Ariadne, like, "Ariadne, The Guiding Light" or something. That could, instead of being a pendulum monster, could do something like Lord of the Heavenly Prison, maybe on an activation requirement instead of just for free though. Like if you activate a Counter Trap, reveal it, and then for the rest of the turn you don't have to pay the costs. That way you still have to pay the first traps' cost, but it stays in hand, so it's hard to interact with, and can be re-used theoretically infinitely.
Or, they could just make a Sanctuary that lets you activate counter-traps from hand.
Not cool or fun but, unique at least.
Lol I've been playing agents since day one. Counter trap agent is awesome
An archetype that would procc off of any Counter Trap but could only search for its own Counter Traps could be a way to balance such an archetype.
The issue was always the player don't want certain methods be too OP. They errata it until some archetype labeled as failed.
the last minute or so cut deep considering the only difference between counter fairies and dinomorphia is dinomorphia works LMAO
It was one of my favorite decks, i kinda started with that one, the proceed with agente fairy.
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Voltanis the Adjudicator is still my favorite card of all time.
These videos are like fast food except instead of burgers and fries it's a steak and wine
Besides insect this is my go to❤
Yea its slow but I play to have fun🥰
They could easily just make parshath a fully fleshed out archetype based around piercing and counter traps. Make it interesting like lab or paleo
Counter Faeries were meta for a while back during 5Ds era.
I get that support being announced after these vids is a running gag now but it’s getting kind of old when every other comment is in regards to just that.
I really want a video on, what I think, are some of the best boss monsters and fun decks and that's Generaiders
“What? Counter Fairies? God no can you imagine if that was good? It would be awful. Someone just omni-negating all your plays, bleh. Anyway, Runick amiright? Now THATS a fun and interactive deck!”
Man stream logs came out near the end of this one “go to school, learn a trade”
next time make one about noble knights
Still waiting for Iron Thunder to come out in Master Duel
Failed cards:Using the opponents cards against them.
This would talk about things like Change of Heart or Graverobber. Cards that allowed you to take your opponents cards and use them against the opponent.