Natalie Wood: Death in Dark Water | Full Episode
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2022
- Nearly four decades after the death of Hollywood star Natalie Wood, Los Angeles County Sheriff's investigators reveal new clues, new witnesses and a shocking revelation. "48 Hours" correspondent Erin Moriarty reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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Well now, who changed their story? Who got a paid hotel room with Natalie and spent the night with her? Who fits the profile of a killer; Robert or the Captain of the Splendour? Hmmm. And, where the heck was Walken during all of this?
@Sam Lee accident death is a Hollywood Gold mine
When I worked for Topsail Unlimited in Marina Del Rey One of my Side Jobs was Cleaning 🧼 & Painting Celebrities Boats & I worked on Their Boat before she died and met her in person!
RJ...RJ...RJ you & I both know what happened your cowardness is the killer
2 mice swim, 1 mouse Drown but the other mouse keeps padding turning that cream into butter!!
The only thing you need to know is that he didn't want the lights turned on, or any search of the water done immediately after the disappearance. That tells you everything.
Totally agree. As he invited Walen, he had his coart perfectly planned The long argument to justify his jealousy and make everyone think Natalie was cheating on him. See how he spoke. Telling he loved her and both loved each other. Then he said he realized that everything changes in a minute. Shame on him as he did not call for her. Or even jump into the water to find her desperately. Now he doesn't show any tear, shock or feeling miserably for losing Natalie. No one acts as cold as him. We don't trust Wagner. It took him long. He justified the argue and made Nataly the guilty. Why he invited walker? Easy. To have the tremendous argue and push Natalie into the water. He is cold in his comments. As a sociopath behavior. He caught up with. Hypocrict. We had all and in a sudden I had nothing. His words. But never shared a tear if felt guilty for not getting hel or himself swim and looked for her. He knew the bad weather. He did not lise any detail.
RIP 🙏 Natalie you are loved and missed
Smells pretty guilty
Excellent point! There is only one reason he didn’t want lights on or a search in the water. He wanted her dead.
Yes and for anyone who dismisses Darren ,at least he’s passed 2 lie detector tests ,something RJ won’t touch w a ten foot pole
Never tell someone your greatest fear.
That's very good advice!👍
My greatest fear is being a multi millionaire
@@Moon_Presence 🙄
@ just noisy! What a stupid things just be brave don’t be a chicken
My greatest fear is getting a billion dollars and living happily till 120yo
He told the captain that Natalie was "missing" and told him not to call anyone... Many clues and still NO arrest, no punishment for the rich and famous.
MGTOW
@Afterlife7377 Huh?
According to some guy 35 years later that had money coming to him after revising this story
And why did the captain, his charter, hes in charge, not overrule Wagner when he never believed that Wood would take that dingy? His story stinks just as much as Wagners. I think he knows what happened as well, and his changing his story years later for money no doubt, is only half the truth.
the most suspicious is the fact they waited three hours before calling the life guard. Even if you believed she went in the dinghy you know the waters are rough a normal person would call the coast guard as soon as you saw that both Natalie and the dingy were missing.
They all probably thought she made it to shore. They were wrong.
Only these were not normal people, they were big celebrities that usually guard their privacy. And Wagner probably thought she was in town.
Just imagine dying the very way you feared the most.... Very cruel
Yes and I believe he murdered her in the way he knew would be most terrifying and horrific for her… truly a nightmare. God rest her soul.
..@@alianaweston2286
He wanted her to suffer I believe.
I think he knows and other’s know if he did it he will face a holy God so in love and fighting like cats and dogs investigate
I believe Robert beat and then pushed her overboard to drown her because it was her greatest fear. I believe Robert Wagner is a wolf in sheeps clothing, he just knew his popularity would get him off any charges.
How could Wagner not call for help immediately upon realizing Natalie was missing? How did he just leave the body of the wife he claimed to love who had just drown and fly home leaving the boat caretaker to identify her? That is so reprehensible I cannot fathom it. I sat holding the hand of my husband who had been in a coma for 8 days, when they removed his respirator. I asked to stay alone with him in his hospital room until he took his last breath two hours later. I accompanied his body downstairs to the hospital morgue. The next day at the mortuary I was asked to identify him and I spent another 20 minutes alone with him without hesitation. My closest friend was with me and could have done it for me but that was my husband and companion for 45 years and I went by myself glad to have more time to say goodbye. Never in a million years would I have flown back home and left someone else to do any of this. That is cowardly at the very least.
I am truly sorry for the loss of your beloved husband. I cannot even imagine your grief and devastation at losing your lifelong partner. It speaks volumes about your character and how you treated your husband in life and in death. It also speaks volumes about Robert Wagner's character, or lack thereof, how he treated his wife in life and death. Two words that I don't use very often describe what I feel he did: morally reprehensible.
God bless you and your husband, for I know that someday you two will be reunited for eternity.🙏❤
You loved him and he knows it where is. I am so sorry for your loss. May God give you peace. YOu are a good Woman
@@eileenstasczak6606 May he rest in Peace
he hit her or pushed her in the water or both and knew it would ruin his life if it got out so he let her drown.
More than cowardly, but completely callous and cold-hearted. A heart of stone. Indeed, Psychopathic.
It’s a blessing to be married that long, and a heartache when they’re gone because a part of you is missing. Thanks for sharing your story.
This woman will always have a special place in my heart. My mother passed when I was young and I don't remember her that well. I asked my father once what she looked like and he asked, "Do you know who Natalie Wood is ?" I had just seen "West Side Story" in school and said I did. He said. "Your mother looked just like Natalie Wood". I was so proud. Now every time I see Natalie in a movie or a picture, I smile and think of my mother and her. RIP, Natalie, Mom and Dad.
He killed her !!! He hit her knocked her out and carefully slid her body over the side of the boat into the water!! All lying !!!
Do you have photos of your mom? Do they look alike? That’s really sweet! I love this story. You’ll see your mom and dad again someday ❤
Have a similar store about my dad. My dad took his own life when I was 2 years old. I ask Grandma, who he looked like and she said they always thought he looked like Michael Landon. I have always had a soft spot in my heart for him❤
I understand your story, may your mom and my dad RIP
This isn't 1824 I'm sure there are photos of her.
@@marilynwillett804 I believe that person is wondering why they wouldn't know for themselves if the person's mother looked like a famous actress because of pictures. The pictures would tell them, themselves that their mother looked like her indeed, instead of just the father saying she looked like the actress. I would think the same thing and find it a bit sad that they don't even have a picture of their mom 😢
The fact that both Wagner and Walken immediately left the place in a chopper, not even willing to identify and escort the body, displays their cowardice. Both did not love her, both only used her for their ego.
That's one assumption. It's also possible Wagner was deeply traumatised and needed to withdraw and Walken helped him, people react differently to shock you're being very judgy without knowing anything. None of us can know for sure but even Natalie's family say Wagner loved her deeply. If they say that it's probably true right
@@annnee6818 No....the family doesn't want to look into the possibility that Wagner, the girls' stepfather, had a hand in their mother's death. It may be they just can't face it. Lane, Natalie's sister, didn't want to believe it at first, but finally had to conclude he really did do it.
Years later I still can't shake this exact sentiment. 😢
@@annnee6818Why did they fight all the time? - maybe he didn't love her deeply
@@cynthiamclellan6745Just because you fight doesn't mean you don't love each other... and how do you quantify HOW MUCH he or she loved the other???
Jealousy, anger, and rage can cause even the most circumspect person to sublimate that love in the moment, and cause them to act inappropriately. Add sufficient quantities of alcohol to the mix and it's easier to step over that precipice.
However Natalie's death was caused, it's tragic--and worst of all: preventable.
She was the only woman on a boat with 3 men who were all drinking and she's the only one who goes missing. All 3 of those men know more than they're saying. They probably got their stories straight while they were drinking scotch and not calling for help.
Exactly. Why didn’t Wagner let the Capt search for her? Why did no me report it.those are the answers the cops should be searching for
Wow .. men always guilty!! Unbelievable
Jonathan Hart never tried to solve this case
Dude say he was scared for his life. Christopher Walken is a tool. He is a coward.😞
Very Mysendrist take but yeah these guys all are talking ILL ab eachother which makes me think at least 2 of them know the full true story. Definitely not all 3 men tho. That just wouldn’t make sense to why one of them wouldn’t want to come out looking innocent.
For someone who is scared of dark waters I don't believe that she did this on her own
Definitely not
AGREE WITH YOU
We will probably not know "the entire truth" til Robert Wagoner passes on...
🙏 RIP NATALIE WOOD 🙏
Yeah obviously not. Her worst nightmare came true. 😞
??
If Wagner told the skipper that he wasn't allowed to put the search lights on after she went missing - that alone speaks volumes.
I agree. When I come home from work at 9pm my husband has the garage driveway lights on for me. 🤔
Yes & why wasn't Gilligan questioned?
See
Ask him why?
He probably didn't want bad publicity and thought Natalie went to the restaurants or hotel. But he was stupid doing that.
Fascinating. She has a specific fear of dark water, sea water and expresses it in an interview. Then she dies in that specific way. I wonder if she had a premonition of her death?
Yes, Natalie was remembering the chart she planned before coming to this earthly realm. Natalie also knew immediately the first time she saw Robert that they would marry someday.
The fear was from some incident during filming when she was a child iirc.
First comment that made sense. Wow how chilling
They all sat there drinking scotch while she's in the dark in open water!? Not calling anyone until hours later!?(if that's what happened) They are all guilty!
shaddup
yes it is really hard to imagine walken, even if he did not know the circumstances, hearing that his close friend and costar was missing off the boat at nite and not going into full panic search mode, instead just calmly drinking.
Absolutely!!!
@@joejones9520 Was Walken drinking Scotch too? Maybe I didn't hear correctly but I thought it was just RJ and the other guy. Last I heard of Walken is that he went to his room when Natalie went to hers.
@@60misst the stories are extremely confusing and conflicting but the main truth Ive gleaned about Walken is that he definitely was awake and present when it was announced by either Wagner or Davern that Natalie was missing. After that he may have gone to bed, he may have stayed up drinking, it's not clear but nothing has led me to believe he did not know she was missing early on, an hr/hrs before it was reported and before she was found.
I remember back in the day almost everyone suspected Robert Wagner had something to do with it. No one could understand how she ended up on a boat at night surrounded by dark water. The very situation that was the most terrifying to her. We all cried that day. She was very gifted and was such a beautiful human being.
@@justme880 Natalie Wood escaped the abusive Robert Wagner once, it's tragic he was able to sweet talk her into marrying him a second time. It cost her her life.
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Everyone but that detective doing the investigation saying I had no reason to suspect this, that or the other thing. Uhhh 🤔🤔A dead body and a bs story ????
Did you look at the evidence of this case? It points to her death being accidental.
Sometimes all that drinking is a recipe for disaster.
Its so obvious that he pushed her into the water and then untied the dinghy himself. Then he came up with the ridiculous story of Natalie leaving the boat in the middle of the night and forced everyone else on board to stick to the script. Robert Wagner may not be punished in this life, but trust he will pay for his actions karmically.
Only God knows the truth.
I saw her with her children once when Wagner was filming a movie in Old Tucson. Seriously, she was even more stunning in real life. Just stunning!
that's not what matters.
Robert Wagner knows exactly what happened.
So does Walken
@@LinDuhLou plausible. They were both on the boat!
Rumor has it she caught Wagner and Walken "together"
And he will take the truth to his grave.
Of course he does. He knows he lost his wife when she accidentally drowned in the ocean.
Getting into an argument and then smashing a wine bottle on a table is a very scary, violent act that he denied doing at first. He admitted it later. Smashing a wine bottle and holding a broken glass bottle is no “argument”.
Smashing a wine bottle on a table is scary? He didn't smash it at or on her. THAT would be scary. From what I heard in this video, she had just as violent a temper as he did and didn't seem to fear him since I would bet she could be just as "violent" back.
Then why did he deny deny deny it?
@@mortimerbrewster3671arguing with someone holding what could potentially become a weapon IS scary. You can't tell me someone who is yelling at you and holding a sharp object wouldn't be intimidating.
@@mortimerbrewster3671
Smashing a wine bottle IS A VIOLENT ACT!
What else can you call it?
Please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
The interview with Robert Wagner is his greatest acting achievement. He's guilty in my book, he even has this guilty air around him .
I was talking to this guy who seemed very nice, one, over a random discussion, he yelled at me. He then came back apologizing but if there is something that I have learned over these documentaries and people around me, never allow the smallest form of violence snd anger ussue. I just stopped everything that day.
Hard to get over her saying she not only feared water, but, "dark water, sea water". My mom (who has since passed) really loved Natalie Wood. She even kind of resembled her and also at one point had a boat and would often go to the Channel Islands. My mom always felt Natalie's death was foul play.
true, maybe as a sailor/or there was a incident in a prevous existence
Your mom sounds like a smart woman.
You are beautiful
I can't speak to how your mom felt, nor how accurate she was. But as for Natalie and her fear of dark water... That certainly didn't get in the way of her yachting lifestyle!
@@williamanthony9090 you can't find no evidence of her being on the water alone. None!
I was a teenager in Marina Del Rey when this happened. My dad knew Robert Wagner, and I must say Robert Wagner was absolutely an extremely charming man (a red flag to me). He had a lot of power in the entire area. Everyone in the Marina also knew Dennis Davern, and what I do remember is that after he talked to the tabloids he was persona non grata in the Marina. It felt to me like he was frozen out of the boating community to the point he probably just had to leave. I think most people at the time sided with Robert Wagner and believed him. I thought it was very suspicious. I couldn't believe that Natalie would have gotten in the dingy to go to shore no matter how angry she might have been - especially on the far side of Catalina. Catalina is pretty remote, and the far side of Catalina is much rougher than Avalon harbor, where they had been the night before. I was around boats all the time and it would have scared me, especially on a November night - and I'm not afraid of the water at all.
Did the people in the marina treat Wagner any differently after this?
I also lived in Marina del Rey at age 21 on the beach. Used to see stunning Bo Derek come jogging by the shore line. I remember swimming when the undertow pulled me under so severely I was glad to be less than shoulder deep to safely escape ! 🙀
Never went swimming in that area ever again, only Santa Monica Beach. 😺
@@nicvanorton6795 - The only thing I noticed was they seemed to give him a lot of sympathy, so at that time I didn't see him being treated any differently than before. When people talked, it was about how tragic it was, with no one seriously thinking Robert Wagner had anything to do with it. There was a lot of gossip against Dennis Davern, that he just wanted a payday out of it by selling stories to the tabloids.
@@SweetChicagoGator - Wasn't it a great place, though? The marina itself had such a different feel than it does now. Everyone came there and was welcomed. Now it feels like it's mainly for the super rich, and all the "peon" normal people aren't welcome. Back then everyone enjoyed it and "normal" people could afford a boat even if it was just a Hobie Cat or a dingy. It was so busy on beautiful days. I agree about the beach right there, it's not exactly a good swimming beach in my opinion either.
My dad owned and ran the fuel dock so we saw so many celebrities constantly. I never got to see Bo Derek running on the beach though 😀😏😊
@@litehold1144 Interesting, seems like celebrities are above suspicion on things like this more often than not.
Come Clean Robert Wagner. You Knew exactly of her fear of water, and no damn dinghy in turbulent waters was going to allay those fears. Christopher Walken knows exactly what happened as well, and it was not a secret of his being with Natalie. Being silent and untruthful is just plain infuriating, and the initial investigation was botched beyond description,the Lovely Natalie deserved better.May she Rest in Heavenly Peace. 🌹
You got that right. She was murdered
@@kandybcat Yes she was. Hopefully, Justice will be served. RIP Natalie.
It makes one wonder why the initial investigation was botched. Dirty cops being paid off? That initial detective was sure quick to say it was an accident.
Were all of you present when Robert Wagner murdered Natalie Wood?
Yes, he killed his wife and the investigators botched it due to their reverence to hollywood stars. But don't worry Robert Wagner has only a few years left on his life. He will test death albeit naturally.
His behaviour that night just doesnt add up to what he is saying, its not normal for your wife to go missing from a boat at night and be so blasé about it and insist not to send a search party to look for her. This alone speaks volumes!!
He is ABSOLUTELY GUILTY AF. We need to get past the era of history where domestic violence is just swept under the rug and ignored. Poor, poor Natalie.
@@pmcguinness3041 as f*ck
@@pmcguinness3041 as f....k
Were u there?
how do you know, were you there? You want him to be guilty to make you feel better.
100% agree, it's an outrage Robert Wagner totally got away with killing Natalie Wood, using his star power and expensive lawyers to intimidate police into backing off.
As the husband, police should have openly and fully investigated him as the prime suspect in her highly suspicious death from day one - if they had, poor Natalie might have got justice. Wagner is 92 now, and highly unlikely to face justice - in this world anyway. But I absolutely believe some very ugly karma is coming for him.
He has a haunted look in his eyes since she died. Living with something so heinous on your conscious as drowning the mother of your children, can't be easy. He fully deserves every moment of torment he gets, in this world and the next!
She was so beautiful, and a great actor. “Splendor in the Grass” is one of my favorite films … she was mesmerizing with those dark brown eyes. I have never believed her death was an accident. Something’s been rotten in Denmark for decades since her “accidental” drowning demise.
This property is condemned is my favorite movie of hers!
@@dawnbailey824yes she plays a very good part in that film . Obviously all her films were good . But as you say that film was brilliant. And memorable . So yes I agree with you on that one .
did it happen in Denmark?
also, "Brainstorm", her last film..
@@kenh3344
She was beautiful and talented. Very sad that her death still remains a mystery.
It’s no mystery. Wagner killed her.
An innocent man doesn't need to tell others what to say during police interviews, and even less to write a book to convince others of their innocence.
OJ wrote a book too.
Why did he keep the boat captain at his house for a year?
Natalie was murdered. Also I am sickened by Christopher Walken's silence. I really liked him as an actor, but this taints him very badly. He knows exactly what happened.
Yup!
Pow!
Exactly
Same. There's no reason he can't come forward now and be honest about what happened.
He wasn’t silent. He spoke to the police voluntarily multiple times. It’s in the vid.
No woman ever stops a screaming fight by going totally silent
RIP
Natalie Wood
(1938-1981)
I believe and always have believed that Robert Wagner killed Natalie. Why in the world would she go alone out into a dingey ? Not to mention she's terrified of dark waters. I know myself how she felt about the water. I'm very afraid and the thought of what she went through makes me sick. He will never pay here simply because of who he is but there is another judgment day on the way. We loved you Natalie and I hope you are resting in peace.
Yep he's old now, so not much longer and he will have to face the music.
What if she wanted to get away from the water and tried to get in the dinghy to go back to shore? I haven’t watched this episode in a really long time. It’s a very shady situation.
@@JanetSmith900 she didnt know how to put it in the water or start it or dock it; no chance.
Jesus told Nicodemus '' You must be born again to enter heaven''.
I agree
He did it, got away with it and gave the best performance of his life. A husband who is worried about his missing wife would pull out ALL the stops to find her! He most certainly wouldn't just sit down with a bottle of scotch as though nothing happened. He was just buying time... Also, what husband would fly off in a helicopter and not identify the body of the woman he so called loved and not say his last good-bye? A guilty coward that's who... Look in his eyes when he talks, you can tell he's lying.
Precisely!
Agreed
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@@gilbertotongco8895 ''about'' whATT??!!... Lmaoooo 😂
I can't imagine this to be ANYTHING else but an alcohol-fueled accidental crime of passion ... and a legacy of horrible cowardice.
I liked Wagner before, but this sordid affair soured everything. RJW's remorse may have been genuine, but refusal to ID Natalie's body, accompany her, ANYTHING is a measure of him as a man. There too many lies that were exposed after the fact. There were no reasons for smaller lies but to cover for the big one. Claim that a woman who was publicly terrified of dark sea water would go to investigate in the middle of the night is as absurd as claiming that someone with severe vertigo would go reach over the edge of a lighthouse to adjust a loose flapping flag.
It is so clear how it happened and who took part in it. So sad that some people in Hollywood are being protected from getting prosecuted
Most telling was A. leaving the scene without identifying the body and B. waiting hours before alerting anyone she was missing while drinking scotch. GUILTY.
Very guilty action.
Please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
@@lastdayschapel7427please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
Good luck proving a guilty verdict on that armchair detective
The things people in Hollywood get away with is insane!
Robert Blake got away with murdering his wife.
Hush Money
Oj "the black glove doesn't fit" simpson
Yes, the entitlement and hush money is repulsive- it will sadly never change. People / cops / most of society - stupidly obsessed with money and fame.
He’s so arrogant it’s disgusting
Thanks for the reminder, dearie!
Has there ever been an interview with christopher walken?
Natalie Wood was terrified of water because when she was 5 years old, her own mother plotted with a director to film her drowning in a flash flood, without telling her about the scene, because they wanted her fear to look real on film.
That's horrible
@@granny58 Her mother was horrible ... I've read how she forced the very young Natalie to behave flirtatiously w/powerful men in the industry - and to sit on their laps whenever possible. Terrible woman.
that's just deplorable. Who did the mother think she was, Joan Crawford?
That's just HORRIBLE!!! 😢 What a TERRIBLE Mother!!
Yeah, the movie title was The Green Promise (1949). She was injured and struggling in the water after a prop bridge collapsed but the director didn't say "Cut!" because they wanted to use the take for a dramatic scene. Her wrist was broken and she was still flailing in white water rapid conditions.
People were so beautiful back then..no lip fillers or cheek implants or botox..just authentic, natural beauty..RIP beautiful Natalie Wood..
Sorry to burst your bubble, but cosmetic surgeries that you spoke about have been around for centuries. 😕
@Monique Loomis ,exactly they must didn't go overboard( no pun intended)like today
@@moniqueloomis9772 No not at all otherwise they would have ALL LOOKED ALIKE like they do today, high brows big fat duck mouth lips, no more lovely irish faces, everyone deeply tanned. in those days, Crawfood, or Bette Davis or any actress all retained their individual appearance.
Considering the gruesome story being told I think your comment about the people being beautiful back is somewhat off color, though I know you meant well.
@@marilynwillett804 Agreed, but also look at Judy Garland and others, it started long before 😢
Poor judgement in inviting C. Walken onto the boat. Way too much alcohol.
I still remember the day the news came out about Natalie Wood’s death. And her husband never escaped the suspicion of her “accidental” death.
This was a crime of passion, fueled by alcohol. Sometimes, when people tell their partner that they're going to leave them or the relationship is over, the other one goes berserk.Because of his wealth and celebrity, the police tiptoed around him and basically let him off the hook. Once again proving rich people can beat the legal system.
Walken is a young guy and his career is exploding; he doesn't want to get caught up in a love triangle or scandal that could taint his career.
Yep. I agree 100%
O J was guilty, police must have known him to be very guilty !
@@myvonne6687brak dowodów
Został oczyszczony z zarzutów
A żona utonęła 😢
That’s exactly what happened. I was going to comment but you have said what I wanted to say. Bottom line Wagner done it. Either passion or he was tired of the fighting and didn’t want to go through a divorce. I think that he hit her that night too.
@@JohnDavis-yz9nq - there’s no way she got into a dinghy in the middle of the night in November in her pajamas on her own. That defies logic.
It's astonishing Wagner got away with this all these years. Mind-boggling.
What proof do you have to convict this man?
@@randomvintagefilm273 process of elimination of all other possible scenarios plus a huge factor is his behavior immediately afterwards and then over the years after. Not one thing he did or said was consistent with how any reasonable person would expect one in his position to act.
@@randomvintagefilm273 By not calling the police after she is missing for a few hours? Distracting them by telling to surch on land and not in the water?
@@randomvintagefilm273 And by having her terrified asking neighbors to help her in the middle of the night.
I believe it's too late Wagner's too old by the time it shows up He's guilty he maybe gone. I don't care what anyone says you got money guilt is wiped clean....it's all sickening.
He'll live his life out fully. Never pays the price.
He did it.
Her family should sue him in civil court.
He's the devil.
Walken knew too.
"We were so in love and we had everything" yet he leaves his wife without seeing the body. That is utterly impossible for a man that loves his wife.
I can understand not wanting to see his wife in that condition but he could have accompanied Dennis Deverne and at least stayed with her until she was sent back to LA.
I don't believe Natalie got into the dingy< Scared of him, scared of dark water. Robert Wagner covered up the circumstances that led to her unbelievable death. He didn't call for help right away then has the gall to seem devastated with the sudden news. So sad
totally agree. as someone who struggles with the same fear, no way NO WAY would I ever get into a rocky dingy in the middle of the night... ever. the thought of her floating in that water is terrifying to me, to think about... no way did she get into that dingy by herself. 100%.
Insightful, just want to add he’s a trained actor who can be someone or something he’s not, like innocent.
Also, Wagner didn’t go identify her body; the Boat Captain did. His account made sense, and was partially corroborated when the two witnesses came forward many years later and they placed/saw both Wagner and Wood on the back of the boat, just as the Captain said…and then it went silent. Their fighting stopped abruptly. And given that earlier, she ask the Captain to take her over to Avalon, why in the world would she go there alone, late at night, and had been drinking? That was a stupid fabrication on Wagner’s part. He’s guilty as sin.
@@bliss4383 100% right, Robert Wagner's version of events on the boat that night simply isn't credible, and his conduct since his wife's death - including refusing to submit to police interviews - strongly suggests guilt.
I think after 9 years Natalie was heartily sick of Wagner's controlling ways and jealous rages like embarrassing her in front of her co-star, Oscar-winner Christopher Walken. I believe she had made comments to RJ about divorce, and he wasn't going to let her leave the marriage alive. It's the classic 'If I can't have you, no one else can'.
Poor Natalie made the mistake so many abuse victims make, she didn't get herself away to a safe location before leaving/threatening to leave him. He was then able to stop her rejecting him, by inflicting the cruellest death imaginable on her. The bruises on her face and body tell an ugly story. How he could push her into the sea at night, knowing how terrified of dark water she was, abandon her to her lonely fate and sit drinking whisky for over an hour before raising the alarm, I do not know. Robert Wagner doesn't have a heart - he has a swinging brick! It's sickening he got away with killing his wife, just because he's a celebrity.
Wagner wouldn't let the boat Capt search for her body.
He's lying.
Alcohol and drugs drives people crazy
I'm terrified of the ocean, the lake even a pond. It's like going into the dark abyss, so I totally get exactly what she meant when she said she didn't like dark water. No way would someone who's terrified by dark water would throw herself in the ocean.
but she was not so terrified to avoid boating trips. It was an accident, she tripped trying to tie the dinghy. She fell into the water already unconscious. Still, Robert Wagner, did not tell all. Maybe he feels guilty that he didnt look for her any more
You don’t know what happened you weren’t there. Natalia Woods is dead. Leave her to R.I.P. No evidence anyone pushed her. 💙
@@brittalbach416 If she was that afraid of water, she would not have bent over to tie the dingy..I mean what reason did she have to tie the dingy?
@@Orangecat693 that is what I am saying. The dinghy was banging against the boat, it was said. And Natalie had had a few drinks. It was claimed that she slipped, hit her head and was already unconscious when she fell into the water. On the other hand, people out there on other boats claimed to have heard s.o. scream for help but didnt believe. On such boats the engines are noisy and the music and the laughter do the rest
Tabby Cat.... Would you go out in a boat in the ocean, lake or pond?
This is so mad! Charge everyone on the boat for negligence. WOW.
ROBERT WAGNER AND C. WALKEN KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED THAT NIGHT . R.I.P. NATALIE.
He killed her in a jealous rage.. and he got away with it.
If he did it, how can he face their children? From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 they have been brainwashed. She has been painted as the adulterer and she was not around to defend herself. He had pushed Natalie’s sister out of the picture so all they heard were his lies.
@@ninabobina2006 Natalie Wood should have never remarried Robert Wagner. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@ninabobina2006 If your wife's sister were accusing you of murdering her, knowing you had nothing to do with her death, wouldn't you push her aside too? I wouldn't hesitate.
@@kevinmalone3210 he killed her 💯
Whenever I think about Wood’s death I’m reminded of that old movie A Kiss Before Dying. In that movie Wagner’s character throws his pregnant girlfriend from the roof of a building & makes it look like an accident. The irony has never been lost on me.
Here's another coincidence concerning a Robert only its Robert Blake. Plays a killer in the movie "In Cold Blood" and then kills his grifrer wife 39 years later and got a way with it. His best role ever! Oscar worthy!
Robert Wagner definitely had something to do with Natalie Wood's death.
It was not accidental.
Wood's intense fear of the water makes all possible theories of an accidental drowning unlikely.
Wagner's immediate action to corroborate all stories points to a cover up.
Wagner's lying about having had a fight with Wood shows deception.
I think Walken and the captain felt extremely pressured by Wagner to go along with one story.
Kudos to the captain for eventually speaking out despite his making a profit from telling the truth.
Walken seems like he just wanted to avoid getting involved.
Walken likely witnessed the fighting between Wagner & Wood but he probably did not see how Wood actually ended up in the water so decided to stay out of it.
Shame that Wagner was never held accountable.
Fact that Wagner refuses to speak with investigators now speaks volumes.
how he flinches when he says she slipped is making him a suspect
Jealousy and money will rip a relationship to shreds more than anything else. My late husband suspected his wife of seeing someone else and in a state of jealous rage wiretapped their phones. She found out and ended the marriage and he swore he'd never let jealousy affect his life like that again.
I worked with a wiretapper at a phone company and he tapped his teenage daughters' line. No respect for her rights.
There is nothing strange or mysterious about Natalie's death. He did it. It's so obvious.
Exactly
exactly its bigger ppl protecting him
yeah, and he got away with it, but heavens above will definitely punish him. he is old now so judgement for him is coming very soon!
The problem is they can't prove it. They can't prove how he did it.
right
Amazing!
Omg he's 93 years old now!!! Will there ever be justice for Natalie??
I've always hated wagner ever since i heard the captains version of events and witnesses. he clearly had no intention of trying to rescue her and just let her drown. a true psychopath with no empathy for his own wife and child R.I.P Natalie.
A Costin
Same here.
Dennis Davern could have defied Wagner and called harbor patrol,so as much as a friend he claimed to be Natalie's friend In the book "goodbye Natalie, goodbye splendour"he failed her too but unlike Wagner,he does feel guilt
@@addiesadler9377 he was essentially kept “captive” in Wagner’s home so that he could meet nor talk with anyone. This man had to identify Natalie’s body that morning because Wagner REFUSED. What a great husband.
@@ninabobina2006 yes and Davern said identifying Natalie's body was very traumatic..he said all he could remember was her eyes.. I guess the morgue attendants didn't bother to try and close them.. Wagner didn't even view her at the funeral home and he had hired a professional makeup artist and hair stylist..I heard she looked great.. but he didn't want to see her.. wonder why..most people want closure that way
@@addiesadler9377 I think he was a coward did not want to cross RJ. His guilt is On going and that is the punishment he lives. Shame RW doesn't have a conscious.
The moment I heard about her death on the news, I did not believe it was an accident.
Whenever it happens at sea and the partner acts weird it's homicide
I'm in my 70's and remember very well when this happened -- MOST people thought Wagner was guilty! The circumstances were just waaay too suspicious!
Beautiful duo
Absolute legend .Extremely sad to hear about this family fued.
I remember when this happened & remember telling my parents that Robert Wagner had something to do with it. Anyone who's scared of the water (my mother was also) would never NEVER put themselves in a position especially at night, a stormy night, to secure a dingy or go ashore in her nightgown & socks!! Their fear of the water would prevent that!! Wagner is responsible, he killed her, maybe accidentally but regardless he got away with it
I think that when someone walks out on you like he did you should ever go back even if you still love them let it go, seriously.
Agreed, marrying Wagner a second time was a huge mistake, that literally cost Natalie Wood her life.
100% but it’s even sadder because apparently Natalie told her sister Lana that it was “better to go with the devil you know” when she told her she got back together with Wagner.
@@Lizzie-ve7kt Wow, that really is sad - and chilling. That philosophy wound up costing her her life. I never trusted Robert Wagner, something cruel and ruthless behind his eyes. I think sadly life had taught Natalie to expect abuse from males.
They were tough times for women. When Natalie was 16, she suffered a brutal prolonged rape by Kirk Douglas. He'd lured her to a hotel suite at the Chateau Marmont LA with talk of an audition for a movie role. She emerged hours later, and got into her Mom's car in silence, bloody, bruised and shaking.
It was the Summer of 1955, and there was no question of reporting the vicious rape. Kirk Douglas was a world famous movie star and director at the height of his powers, with his own movie production company. Publicly accusing such a powerful man would have ended Natalie's career, not his.
Things have improved somewhat for women in the decades since, but the Harvey Weinstein scandal makes you wonder quite how much.
Poor woman! Both those guys creep me out
I've always wondered about this. This bothers me to this day.
I have always believed that Robert Wagner was responsible for Natalie Wood’s death, and that Christopher Walken and Davern knew the truth, but covered up for Wagner.
Why would they do that?
Because one of the theories about that night is that Natalie caught Chris and Robert in bed.
Supposedly, Natalie was going to leave Robert for Chris, i guess not best pleased about finding them in bed together.
@@gbonkers666
People on shore that night heard screams, sound amplifies over water, and 3 men on the boat heard nothing? Natalie couldn’t swim, feared water. Robert Wagner, Christopher Walken and The Captain know the truth.
”It’s the only evidence of domestic violence investigators have found”.
Well, just that one is pretty big in and of itself.
Could her sister get police evidence of domestic abuse. Robert is guilty because he didn't look for her ASAP, AND She was scared to death of black water and swimming.
thank you Diractor , lovely ,
No autopsy was done? No lie detecting????? what in the world!!!!??
Robert Wagner: I feel guilty of not being there for her.
Also Robert Wagner: Nah let's leave it for a few hours, maybe she'll turn up.
He killed her, no doubt in my mind.
I saw his left eye twitch when he said the word " guilty."
@@lastdayschapel7427 just something not right about him.
Yep. I dont doubt it either.
Not only Simpson got away with the crime he committed with her wife but also Robert Wagner.
I always believed he killed her and used her biggest fear to do it ,she ended up in the water because he did it ,I believe he battered her first then did it
That is exactly how they do it,… use the ultimate vulnerability 😭
It's so weird sometimes to hear such stories about famous people you have seen on TV many times. This is the first time i'm hearing about it.
Same!
Who ever did that investigation did a crappy job obviously
Would love to know Christopher Walken’s side of the story.
It's haunting, not just with poor Natalie, but the several strange deaths surrounding the actors in "Rebel Without a Cause"
Exactly!
I know about James Dean and Natalie obviously but who else?
@@missbraindamage Sal Mineo was stabbed to death in the 70s
It’s weird Christopher Walken won’t speak about it. He was there - he should be made to speak. Coward
Often, men who seem so cool and level-headed have the most volatile tempers... drink, drugs, and dysfunctional relationships never end well 😒
Yeah I don’t think she did this herself. I think he hit her and while Panicking he pushed her into the sea. It’s so sus.
@Sam Lee How very sad for Natalie
Christopher walken was also on the boat, right? Sometimes people get inspired to pick a target when they are with someone else, like goading each other. What if they both had something to do with it and she lost her life?
You hear about some cruise ships where someone went missing - some were suicidal and others were pushed off it’s scary and he got away with it and at his age it’s sort of too late he will die and take it to the grave. I hope he rots in where the devil lives
Christopher Walken surely knows a lot. I can’t believe he hasn’t say anything.
I really think he was asleep or in his cabin where he doesn't actually know.
People on another boat heard them arguing. I don't buy it.
@@addicted367 I agree, Addicted...Walken had to have heard
@@Orangecat693 ... or addicted Walken fell asleep
Prettyfunny, another coward afraid of Wagner.
He is emotionless when he tells about his lies...its written all over him!!!!!!
Hello Barbara, how are you doing?
No lie detector??? No nothing 😮 unbelievable 😮
wagner has been lying for the past 40 years. any other man would have been made accountable but celebrity and money protects people like him.
Yes - they say Kirk Douglas was another
Yes, I agree….that’s EXACTLY what happened & I honestly suspect that’s why he’ll NEVER be held accountable. Major injustice to Natalie & her family but ultimately God will be the judge & that’s something NO ONE can escape.
@@lgempet2869 agree. there will be no escaping god's law👍👍
Exactly.
And it was actually Natalie’s money coz his career isn’t actually illustrious. He’s only “someone “ in the tv screens.
I sometimes wonder if Natalie had a premonition about how she would die given her fear and aversion towards dark water. Poor Natalie.
her mother took her when she was younger, to a psychic who foretold of her dying in water.
She also had a terrifying incident happen to her on set when she was a child actress. She was walking on a set bridge over water for one of her scenes and the bridge failed and she dropped down into the water and ever since then she had a very justified fear of deep, dark water.
Yes - a gypsy told her mom she would be famous & beware of drowning in water.
First dean then Mineola I would have been terrified if I was next
The person/people responsible for her untimely death may have evade conviction but He will be punished in the afterlife.
I like how there is a totally different tier of justice for the rich and famous.
There’s no way she went out there on her own. Years ago, I remember watch Turner Classic Movies and they had a sweet tribute to Natalie Wood narrated by Robert Redford and it spoke of their friendship and working together on set. He said something that always stood out to me and that was how he had no clue about Natalie’s deep seated fear of water when he and her were goofing off on the set of Inside Daisy Clover, and he jokingly picked her up and jumped into the water with her and he said she had such a visceral reaction that he had never seen from her before. He had no clue about her fear until that point and said that he never forgot the look of sheer terror on her face. That story is why I will never believe that she went out by herself. I can imagine that they had an argument and Wagner pretended to be calm, lured her out of the cabin by asking her to hold a flashlight or lantern up for him so that he could see well enough to secure the dingy better and that’s when he made his move. I think that would explain why she had put a coat on as she had intended to go outside the cabin, only she hadn’t been going out there to get the dingy and she hadn’t gone alone-at least that’s my theory. I always get chills hearing about the passing boat passengers who claim they heard a man mockingly saying “Oh hold on, we’re coming to get you.” I definitely think it was Wagner and he had lured Natalie to bring the light closer to him while he was trying to tie the dingy but in reality was untying it from the boat and then he either pretended to slip or trip and grab onto her arm (which could explain the bruising) before throwing her overboard, he could’ve done this so that if she survived or anyone came to help he could claim it was simply an accident and his clumsiness was the result of a night of drinking. I think the fact that he waited so long to call the police is extremely damning, I bet he waited so long to give the dingy enough time to float away from the boat so that he could claim she just disappeared and that the injuries on her body could be more easily explained away by struggling in the open water.
That is the best theory and insight I’ve heard. I believe you are 100% correct. You would make a great detective!
That’s exactly what I was thinking !
Excellent theory! It was premeditated, he lured Natalie out to help him tie up the dingy and then made his move. Never wanting lights or a search team shows his guilt.
Best theory I have ever heard and seems on point.
Please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
What's especially sickening is her children believe her death to be an accident, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a psycho who wants money, or to spread lies. While I agree that there are some folks out there who want a shock-story, the circumstances related to Natalie's death are just too odd and unsettling for her death to be a simple accident.
why is it sickening if Wagner is their father and they want to believe him instead?
That makes me mad can they not see the truth, I suppose he has won them over sad😢😢
@@enigma8147Because it shows how well he can manipulate people, which doesn't stop.... not even with his own children.
@@TheLauraVEffect Well, if it is sickening how manipulative he is, sure, but I don't find his children's behavior sickening. We clearly hear here a biased representation of the story, clearly one-sided and manipulative itself. Maybe because of this documentary it is so "obvious" that he is the killer, when in reality something else may have happened which is hidden here but is not for his children? I don't know. I do not have any desire to judge his children in this situation as I am assuming they have more information or at least they want to believe otherwise, and I would understand them in both cases.
@@enigma8147 Basic critical thinking skills would have to be lacking to deem him innocent. A person without his social status would have been sent to jail after obtaining all of the tremendous amounts of circumstantial evidence.
We always attract what we fear because that's where our focus is
Why would someone who is afraid of water spend a Thanksgiving weekend on a boat in the month of November?
It makes me sick how these double standards play out. If the facts were exactly the same and this happened to an ordinary citizen, the man would have been arrested immediately!
but the witnesses initially lied ! So that's Davern's fault !
It’s like you didn’t even watch the video.
Yes as someone who was scared of dark water, she never wouldhave gone in a dinghy
Right, and not at night.
she had never operated it other than taking over the wheel in open water, she could never have put it in the water, she had zero interest in stuff like that and always let others handle it.
I will give Robert Wagner credit, he is a great actor. And it clearly shows when he is interviewed about her death. An Oscar worthy performance.
My half brother is a celebrity, my mother, a writer/producer/actress in film and tv..from my own personal experience, i must comment I think most celebrities are pretentious, narcissistic, sadistic.. such a pity for the family members and friends! Natalie lost her life 💔
Certainly narcisistic!
What's most scary is his memoir and how callously he talks about her death, presenting himself as innocent, loving and caring. He's a monster who doesn't regret what he did.
The more sociopathic a perpetrator is, the more they try to control the narrative and manipulate their audience by talking about "love" and "heart" and stuff. The title of his memoir disgusts me, just like his voice.
It's pure hypocrisy and 100% dishonest.
Who's your half brother? If you diamond me asking.
Yes charming people can have a dark side.
Totally agree with you
I met both Robert Wagner &/ Natalie Wood in England. They sat in back of us at a play. When the break came I was volunteered by my brother & sister toget his autograph.He went up to get them drinks, I followed him & fell over myself asking for a;autograph. He looked at me like I was a peasant.Nasty. Reluctantly gave me his autograph. At end of play I was about to ask her. My brother did. She was extremely gracious. Laughed when he said something about throwing a candy wrapper on the floor. You could see he didn’t like it, I should mention my brother was 25 & movie star handsome. 8 think he killed her
Shocking
Loved her in The Great Race with Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon. Fantastic actress!