The SCIENCE! Behind Power Armor in Fallout 4
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Not taking falling damage? That sounds like something a synth would do...
Hey, would you check out my channel and maybe leave me some criticism? It would mean a lot to me, thanks.
+CJ Dodge sounds like a synth
+CJ Dodge Sure. Don't go on other people's channels to try to get viewers. (Its kind of rude.) Just make videos on something not many people do. (So not minecraft) Be unique, and try to add to whatever community is in a certain game. Then you might be able to get someone who's a bit more popular to give you credit for you contributions. That's a much better way to get yourself out there than asking people to check out your videos on someone else's channel. Just remember "If you build a better mousetrap the world will beat a path to your door."
Avarickan Honestly you have given me the best advice yet. Thank you
deathman the noob Oh well that sounds like something a SYNTH would say
"most developers have fall damage in their games"
Borderlands: Hold my physics.
Fred Krazé that such a true statement right there
Really one of my favorite parts of borderlands, makes getting off a big ass building or mountain literally easy as pushing a button
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Ironically, Borderlands has at least a hand-wave of a reason for it: Pandora is a relatively small planet with lower gravity than Earth. Which is why you fall slower and can handle the impact without damage.
Also because Borderlands is less about realism and more about action.
@@MarkZeroGaming EXPLOSIONS!
Just wait until he discovers the metal leg armor that negates fall damage
Gamerwolf 04 anything with acrobat effect or the free fall legs
Still better than a huge chunk of metal
Or the Nuka World infinite ammo gatling laser
@@josephpayne113 Or any weapon with the unending trait. Wow, .50 unending automatic rifle with +ROF and -Recoil and +DMG = instakill on a lot of legendary enemies.
Lmfao freefall legs
Brotherhood of Steel incident report AD-851: Another initiate has jumped from the prydwen in a t45 power armor unit, initiate did not survive the impact, the only thing salvageable is the helmet and it is also the only thing we have to bury.
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Case file-19 the mysterious stranger
Still wondering why can you get poisoned by something like radscorpion, while wearing Power Armor :/
+PeaseMaker The stinger cant get to you while in Power armor? I dont know its seem thats the only reason
+PeaseMaker people are lazy
it's sharp. it can break raider power armour in 1 hit sometimes. it sends a poison through the circuits into you.
+Sheldoom Gaming digitized poison
It likely gets through the armour and ends up spraying posion on you. Yes I knoe that is disentangle inside of you but this is Fallout. Likely mutated its posion into a fine acid.
power armor can save you when jumping off of trinity tower, but a mosquito can still poison you thru your power armor... I only keep the power armors I find just to give it to my settlers cause they can use it with unlimited use. I somehow even have some provisioners wearing the dam things and then never get out of them
How u get them to stay in?
AgeDrain don't assign them to anything else, I would assume
AgeDrain yea like snoop mcdoop said just leave him as he is he will stay in the suit
matafaka maybe the blood bug posion gets to the flesh though gaps in the power armour
i have an entire section in sanctuary dedicated solely to my power armour i have three and a quarter rows of power armour
"I come to your games to get away from the reality!"
*immediately puts reality into every single video he does*
Oh.....
Lol. He does contrasdict himself allot doesnt he? XD
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@@budokankan The Kingdom of God is at Hand
John 3:16
King James Version
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Remember when Game Theory was like this instead of 296 videos about FNAF?
Dear Scott
Yeah but the FNAF videos were one of the best videos
@Bill The Bull Gates pretty much :/
Frisk Dreemur not at all dumbass
FNAF is what started game theory lol, so there's no remembering when it wasn't there because it was there since the beginning
Gravity pisses me off. It's always holding me down.
Why, just why?
Dominic Pyles
Because it's punny.
That pun was terrible and love it, here have an internet cookie.
Nobody likes it, but its the law.
+Chang Lee God Damit Barb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its about as realistic as a wrist-mounted computer than can run without transistors. :P
+CaptainPositron computers can run without transistors only problem is they will be really crappy like in the way of only text based and using disks as a hard drive and that kind of stuff.
just like in fallout
+kab hes Yeah, but vacuum tubes are huge.
+CaptainPositron BEHOLD THE POWER OF THE ATOM!
Transistors eventually did get invented in Fallout, except not until much later.
+kab hes and weight tons - don't forget this
This should be titled "The SCIENCE! Behind falling in Power Armor."
I was expecting an analysis of how the PA operates. Like how the pistons help give you more strength, etc.
Tbh it's probably to get more people to click on the video.
Same this is more of a rant than a scientific analysis
hydraulic armored insect
@@delta390gtfair enough.
Dear Austin.
I have a question for you. Not that you’ll likely see this since this video is nearly 4 years old and you have better thing to do anyway, but after reading like ten comments I decided nobody important has brought it up. First let me qualify my question with an observation I had while upgrading my power armor. When looking through the leg upgrades I noticed one was to add explosive vents to the legs, it increases damage to nearby enemies when falling from great heights and adds an explosion effect when you land. Now I’m no expert on explosions or collisions but when cars hit something at high speeds there doesn’t seem to be a super impactful shockwave that spreads from the impact in a radius. So this got me thinking that the energy from landing isn’t getting absorbed by the armor but dispersed by some magic device in the legs of the armor that takes all that kinetic energy and pushes it out in a explosion thus sparing the poor squishy innards of the individual within the suit and not sparing anybody unfortunate enough to be standing within some radius of said falling individual. Anyway my question is: Is this actually possible. And if so just how much damage should this blast actually be doing to the surrounding areas. It seems like it would be more than the game shows but I’m not informed enough to figured it out myself so if by some miracle of fate you see this, maybe you can.
-Sincerely Jarod
Not to mention the fact that at no matter what height you fall from or how fast you're falling it still creates the same effect, it would make more sense the lower the elevation the weaker the impact and if you jump off a tall building or something it should do the explosive vent effect. Then again this is the game that has a nuclear explosion in a grenade and some ballistic weapons have a legendary effect that lets them shoot plasma sooo.
The exterior of the suit does not stop the interior (you) from instant deceleration.. even if the suit could disperse its g forces.. it couldn't stop yours.. as you are a separate entity from the suit itself. Simple answer: no. It would not help at all, not in the slightest. Because you are not the suit, you are a squishy sack of meat stopping nearly instantly. Hope this answers it for you.
Sincerely Dais F.
This is supported by the fact that individuals near the power falling take damage soooooo
Fallout is wacky look at me i got shot in my brian and im alive
@@couriersix4252 There are veterans walking around fully functional with half a brain
you made me understand physics better than my teacher ...
thx c:
yep
but i like pizza tho
but i like pizza tho i just watched youtube and never attended a class. passed every test. (online colledge, unlv)
James Ricks OMG ur right
You know what's more dangerous than falling inside a Power Armor at gravity force? Falling inside a Power Armor at "Austin's Talking Speed". The PA would scatter to fucking pieces :,)
+Abbas Naser How did you see this video 12 hours ago? Are you a wizard?
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+Hart Chor I want to know to
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+Hart Chor it just works...oh wait it doesnt...
Preston Garvey:
You know who are in more danger? The persons that are in this settlement. Here I'll mark it on your map.
"ain't no gravity gonna hold me back"
Well boys, we did it, falling down is no more
Now you have to worry about falling up.
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 i was playing skyrim and a mammoth just flew up for no reason then went splat and when I dY flew up I dont mean like 10 feet more like 200 feet up
@@bobthebuilder1360 He didn't perform his normal final smash, he performed his GOD TIER final smash.
"245 miles per f*cking hour" 😂
so I have a question! who the fuck boarded up almost all the houses in the commonwealth.
My theory is those are filled with dead bodies days/weeks/months after the bombs were dropped. You may have noticed there are no mass graves in the game.
***** that is a theory but why cover up a window and door. My theory is that most bodies where burned or eaten by animals and humans trying to survive
+Mitchell Gould After the bombs fell, the world went to shit in like, what, 5 years or so. People woukd probably board their windows to stop raiders, ferals, and irradiated beasts.
Riley H. Yeah but there couldnt have been enough survivors to board up 2/3 of the buildings in game
+Mitchell Gould they probably did it before they died from radiation.
6 frames = 1/10th of a second?
So... console players fall slower?
love our hacks?
+0Wolfclaw0 they fall slower in our perception, but the speed would honestly be the same
The frame here is used as an arbitrary constant. Because it stays roughly the same, he can use it as a unit of velocity. Console players may decelerate in 3 frames, etc. But because you use all your measurements based on those frames at 60 fps, it works. You could do all the calculations at 30 fps and get the same results
we fall slower ? yay now I get even more time to worry about the last time I saved !
no they don't fall slower, they just naturally are slower, at everything
6:54 I love how all those meter things just go insane every damn frame
7:09 Can you imagine the results of that were dropped on someone? It gives me ideas of Fallout ODSTs jumping from Vertibirds and crushing sections of Chinese regiments and leaving craters in the ground.
What if your fusion core runs out while ur falling
*Crunch*
Jorb Nelson nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope
you still dont take fall damage
It says: even with anything's on it, a power armor frame will still eliminate Fall damage
Nothing would happen because all that the core does is give power so you can move and use a flashlight, the springs that stop the fall don't need power.
Does anyone remember proctor Ingram and how she lost her legs? It has to do with her testing power armor but was attacked by super mutants. The area she worked was high up and was hit by something and she was tossed off the area and and surived the fall but lost her legs and the power armor she hand on was destroyed from the impact. I just don't want to dig in the comments to find any hint of it.
Correct. Was about to say that. Lore-wise PA doesn't remove fall damage but rather negate it. I assume Bethesda did this for gameplay reasons
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she didn't lose her legs due to the FALL but being crushed by the TONS of Rocks that landed on her and and collapsed the armor around her.
it was by a mini nuke
proctologist ingram ate a NUKE
I always figured that being futuristic tech, they found a way to put some type of inertia damper into the power armor to negate the g-force on the armor and wearer. That's pretty much the only explanation I can think of.
There are so many measurement problems with that falling speed calculation…
It really should be measured in grid units per tick, not eyeballed heights per frame.
Plus assuming power armor is only 6 feet tall is absurd.
Shit I'd say power armor is at least seven if not eight feet tall with how you stand in it. You don't actually have your feet in the power armors feet. Same goes with the hands too.
@@Someguy6571 how many cars during broken have nanobots
Stunt pilots can get even up to 15 Gs for a short extended time. And the guy in the airforce who endured 43 Gs did so *backwards* which actually makes a humongous difference, which is what he was testing.
of course he survived it going backwards the front of your body is more flexible than the back and lacks this thing called a spine for your organs to shred themselves on
Instantaneous G’s can be up to 9 or 11. More than that and it will still cause GLOC. A way the F-16 combats this is by angling the seat, meaning the blood isn’t being pulled away from your head as hard as a normal seat would entail. Actually, when you are moving forwards or backwards, G forces aren’t a problem. It’s when there is potential to pull blood away from the brain, or surge blood into the brain.
Must people who go up to space in the Soyuz rocket can endure 16-18g for a while, bc they're essentially laying back and not sitting up.
Are you MXR's immersion scientist?
I believe, yes
I believe soooooooo
maybe...
If they would work together making vids it would literally explode my mind.
+Elim Rawne would be amazing
That guy who built that rocket train thing..... the blood vessels in his eyes busted but they healed in a few days
No one's afraid of heights but everyone's afraid of falling from heights
I expected you to talk about the fact that a military-graded advanced power suit could only work for 30 minutes when fueled by a nuclear battery.
But jeez I didn't expect all of the physic around fall damage :)
shhh
EX-FUKIN-LAKLY WHAT I MEAN LIK REALLY?!?
Well, considering that maybe the batteries aren't 100% percent efficient from the start, the degradation of not being used for hundreds or years, and the fact that power armor would use a lot of energy could explain that.
There's no excuse for any bit of military hardware that can only last 30 minutes in the field. That's fucking ridiculous, it would never get accepted. I preferred the old lore wherein power-armor, essentially, never run out of power(because it had a fucking fusion core, in it, it was powered by the same thing that powers the sun).
Keep in mind this is 30 minutes in real world time. If we take the game's time then each minute in our world is an hour in fallout 4. So that means power armor can last 30 hours on a single core, pretty impressive considering that they've been laying around for 210 years.
So will my PC survive a massive fall because it has a G-force graphics card? Yes! 1-0 NVidia AMD!
let's do that
Noelious Cornelious THAT MAKES NO GOD DAMN SENSE
the 970 scores 3.5/4
I often fantasized about shoving my old PC out the window. Just a little shove. No more than six inches to the left and two stories down...
LOOOOOOOOL
Love the fact that I️ actually learned about this kinda stuff in ap physics. Brings back some good feels.
2:43 that’s good driving
Which set of power armor is your favorite and what else would you like us to research about power armor?
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how is the jet pack able to lift the power armor and the person
+ShoddyCast I like the X-01 and I like the mod that adds the X-02 or Enclave Power Armor.
+ShoddyCast T-60, hands down.
I like the BOS Paladin Armour...
For a more realistic experience... Use a jetpack on the PA. :P
Short hopping the jetpack before landing should reduce the impact and Gs enough so that the PA's leg hydraulics don't instantly give way and hopefully the reduced G force won't turn you into tomato salsa.
Nope. The potential energy would still exist and your still slowing down very quickly. So jet pack hopping would FUCKING HURT. That is if your falling from a high distance.
depends on when the jetpack is activated and how much thrust it had, it could be done safelty if we had the tech today, we could find a way...
PanQuakes what bro? Lmao
the one thing that power armor cant stop is fall damage from landing on water, i died from that in X-01 power armor because i decided to test out what would happen and it was death
I am currently a sophmore in highschool and i have learned more about physics from watching your videos than my whole school career
I break my falls with my jetpack. I don't like to be loud
Still can hear you stomping around
'cause jetpacks are silent. XD
Ikr like *sharp wistle* "I DONT LIKE TO BE LOUD" *jetpack starts up* *BUUUUUUUUUURURRRRRRRRRRKKKKKK*
I do it because its so easy to make people hostile if you land near them
This guy gets it.
your math is inherintly wrong. The Fallout universe has NO terminal velocity, its not programmed, like in other games if you fall long enough you'll become a string of polygons falling in exess of 1 million miles per hour.
I like your reasoning, but that only further prove his point
nope not true... games can have a terminal velocity... Portal has it, arma has it, Flight sims have it..
exactly my point
Technically, if no terminal velocity is programmed and you don't speed up when falling, then wouldn't the speed at which you fall be your terminal velocity?
Risto Mladich Games CAN, but most generally don't.
Dereck Frehulfer no, you speed up indefinitely as you fall in Fallout. there is a pun there, I just can't put my hands on it. :P
There’s a noise the power armor makes after falling (I know in 76 it does) and I think that shows that it stopped your fall
You know how there's those new backpacks that suspend themselves on your back, taking the weight off of you? What if the frame connects to the armor in a similar fashion? You're basically floating inside of the power armor so when you land instead of you taking the force the frame moves inside the armor, sort of like absorbing the shock.
Sooooo, we can finally train like Vegeta??
Getting kicked in the nuts again and again?
+Tnomic Vierling "He keeps kicking me in the dick! Why does he keep kickin' me in the dick!"
You're upside-down! Now you're not.
go teamfourstar
+Tribaldragon1 my room. 10 minutes 😉
Dear shoddy, what about the freefall leggings? Those make even less sense than power armor!
+Cameron Perez This exactly this, I want to know how that shit works.
+Cameron Perez oh yeah because all the other legendary items make total sense you know Kappa
Lord Drago of Kronstadt I'm talking about the stuff related to the video like the leggings, not talking about legendary effects
+Cameron Perez although the guy said kappa, I still think he has a point. Free fall bonus is a legendary bonus
but it also had a story behind it
Never heard about digitally controlled valving for hydraulic cylinders.... I believe used for some Carrier Aircraft Landing Gear.
Since you mentioned him: most people do _not_ know that Philip Zimbardo seriously pushed his test subjects in the Stanford experiment to achieve the results he was expecting, making the entire study much more about *obedience* than inherent *cruelty* in humans. For more on that, I recommend the *Milgram* experiment, which tested exactly that - namely unquestioned obedience towards perceived authorities - and was much less presumptuous about it.
would it make sense if you died from falling even with the power armor unless you have the jetpack ? because the jetpack could activate while falling and slow down the fall to a survivable speed.
Pedro Seba Well, it depends how fast the jet pack is thrusting upwards. If the jet pack thrusts up at too high a power, it will be almost as bad as hitting the floor.
Pedro Seba But then it wouldn't be so cool
he showed how frame by frame you go from full speed to stop in 6 frames (or 1/10 of a second) so regardless of jet pack the force will hit you
Yeah, except the game will not allow you to decelerate if you're already falling. If you moving downward, with a jet pack, and try to slow your fall, it does exactly nothing.
The jet pack in the game barely can lift the armor from standing on the ground. If you already are falling it's really unlikely it's short and weak thrust will decelerate you enough back from terminal velocity to survive.
Power Armor has kinetic servos in the legs. When you get inside it you take a step up, your feet never really touch the ground, you stand above the armors ankles.
have you ever dropped a phone and it breaks? But if you get a case for it and drop it from the same height it will be fine even if does weigh more now. Case takes the kinetic force and the padding dampens that force on the phone. Power armor feet are basically hydraulic airbags and the person inside the frame is basically your phone in a case.
False. Your character's body is still decelerating at a far higher rate than can be survived. There is no way a human would survive that fall, especially repeatedly/discounting freak instances.
Paragon I think you missed the point of the video : DECELERATION KILLS
Man you're stupid, watch that video and maybe try listening to him. It'll probably help
bruh a phone is different from a human.
Miguel Dizon and dropping a phone a few feet is different from dropping a human a few hundred feet
Or you could say, put a tomato in a jar, drop the jar into water from, like, 10 metres? and your tomato has now been brutally mangled.
Reminds me of the poor guy in the Expanse turning into paste in one episode.
Pneumatic shock absorption. That's the key, as its mention in one of the leg mods. It uses the compression of air at the moment of impact to decelerate your body and suit during the fall. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.
You have no idea what you're talking about. How the fuck would you decrease the acceleration of your body? Those pneumatic fucktards are nothing to the forces you would experience during and after your fall. They won't be enough. When you land, almost every single bone in your body would disintegrate, blood vessels would pop, and don't even get me started on the power armor crumbling on top of you.
First: That's Fallout lore, why are you chewing him out for it?
Second: Physics in Fallout are different than in our world. It's in the lore.
The Crimson Fucker But even if we have that pneumatic shock absorption, it would still be basically useless
Distance of those shock absorbers wont be nearly enough to make one god damn difference, if we talk about terminal velocity. Sure it could so something in high of small building, but essentially will still take damage and die.
Just fact that your brain is swimming inside of your skull and moment you hit the ground, your brain will be smashed into your skull (brain damage or death), cause that too need to stop from that speed. So yeah...
Essentially humans are fragile as fuck and there is currently nothing we can do about that.. possible in the future, but not in our life time we see cyborgs that can withstand such forces with their computer based brains.
God damn bethesda.. why you didnt add rockets/jets on the suit to cushion the fall..-.-
Nicolo Matias
1: Eh...it could be excessively powerful? *shrug* if that's the case then it sure, as fuck, isn't modeled in the game.
When I heard "pneumatic shock absorption", I immediately thought of the suit blowing air in to the ground just before it landed - it could create a dense bubble of air, creating a wider window of deceleration.
2: Fallout physics are different. Our laws don't, really, apply in full there(I mean...radiation makes you immortal...or it just turns you in to a centaur).
SUPERHERO LANDING!
+Voltorn Elda Really hard on your hips
+Voltorn Elda looks cool, but it's really hard on the knees.
+PMW3 totally impractical, they all do it.
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And this is an armor Austin. You don't even saw the Freefall leg plates... 😅
The way to counter this problem is either with deployable drag chutes to slow the fall or built in jump jets to provide lift as you fall to slow you down, not a jetpack, but enough to counter terminal velocity of the armor plus 200-300lbs of human
Lmao I love this guy. Bethesda probably hates him lmao
+Brandon J I am also starting to hate him as well!
+Barry Daemi lmfao that's depressing.
+Ghastly Grinner I'm actually pretty sure they would care. Shoddycast is a pretty big name in the Fallout fan base, so I'm sure Bethesda pays attention to what they do.
As for whether or not they take everything this channel says to heart, I rather doubt that they would.
This was just a simple comment, why are you guys arguing back and forth on here... Over a video? If you don't like it, don't watch it, if you do like it then watch it. Simple fix. Enjoy your day guys.
+Brandon J "THIS GUY MIXED SCIENCE AND VIDEO GAMES WITH THIS ONE SINGLE TRICK, BETHESDA HATES HIM, NERDS WANT TO BE HIM, REMOVE WRINKLES WITH PHOTOSHOP.", My kind of guy.
The power armor in the thumbnail is the T-49: Power armor of the storyteller
TheLivingTank we know it’s a mod originally created for the series, but was re-created by other people.
A year later and your comment is still useful, thanks
I got that mod
Thanks
JUST USE BOS T-60
Let's not forget that Proctor Ingram (The character) lost her legs due to a fall in Power Armor. Yet we the player, as stated in the video, take no fall damage when wearing power armor. Think about it.
Two things... first, while in game you're not required to wear it, there is a special jumpsuit every Power Armor unit has to wear while in Power Armor. That suit Danse is wearing? That's it. The same suit the guy in the intro video is wearing. Second, the frame. Exploding vents was the biggest hint for me to understand it. The VENTS in conjunction with the hydraulic system of THE FRAME, expel the excessive fore on landing and evenly distribute the rest. That pose your character assumes when falling? Soldiers are trained to fall from heights and land without damaging their legs and feet and the secret is in the way you land. That's also why Power Armor suits don't have... shoes, for lack of a better word. Imagine a cloud of steam coming out of the joints and feet of the frame when it lands, then replace it with G Force. That's why the pieces that form the armor don't crack either. The frame handles pressure and weight distribution and the jumpsuit you should be wearing makes sure you're not going to have a heart attack when you land. Can we build something that advanced in our world? No. At least not yet.
What's wrong with them is they run on NUCLEAR batteries that last for ~25 minutes.
The amount of flesh ablative energy shit those things must be outputting is FUCKING TERRIFYING.
sik3xploit It is a way to balance the game and they explain in game that using Vats, sprinting, and mods deplete your power supply at an insanely fast rate. Also if you have the Nuclear physicist perk it lasts forever.
*Suite made of titanium alloy about maby an inch thick* a fuckin raider hits u with his pathetic bat and it still does dammage not to mention small caliber bullets such as 10mm or 9 witch would most likely dew to the shape of the armour bounce or ricocheted off. And a feral ghoul or rad scorpion some how ignores your titanium barrier and poisons you or hurts you.... A decrepit rotting shit fuck can hurt you behind an inch of one of the worlds strongest metals
you sir have brought up a more serious fuck up Bethesda has done
pretty sure this is an issue with fallout in general.
I guess Bethesda nerfed the shit out of it.
that is thing they could make it so high powerful weapons could still damage and after enough shots kill you but low power weapons and enemies wouldn't even make a scratch like a deathclaw will be able hurt you but a feral ghoul wouldn't,and they could make it so getting power armor is hard as hell and when comes to pre-war armor that you can only find 1 of each and have to keep them maintained or else once a peace or whole thing is gone it is gone and only way to get another peace or whole thing is from like the BoS but at really high price
yeah, i get why it's done for balancing reasons, but if they are going to make power armor as weak as it is right now then they should stop talking it up as a god suit in every terminal and any other lore you read about it, "one man in power armor can clear a Chinese occupied town" or talking about how they can take down tank battalions....you can't make this lore behind it then have someone get killed by a raider with a pipe rifle while wearing it...stops tank rounds, but not post war .38.....
theoreticly its possible to fill the armor with water and surround the pilot with it. The water has the same falling velocity as a normal body, but the Pilot inside the water will not be effected directly by g-forces.
Seeing as how a power armor suit is on average 2 feet taller than the people in them, and apparently the power armor suits cushioning pistons in the legs, I’m assuming that even though some of that height is taken up by armor and the feet, there’s still plenty of space to install shocks that will absorb the fall. The lore does state that they would airdrop in power armor, with or without a pilot inside them.
dear shoddy cast: plz use metric mesurements. thank you.
+steevanator otto Austin usually does, if you look at his older science videos- though I agree, metric is the way to go even in casual science. And I'm a filthy American who barely knows it.
+steevanator otto I know, I was trying to do the math at the same time and I couldn't :(
fuck you and your metric bullshit do the conversions your self
+michael bob Thing is metric units are also known among the scientific community as SI units, or the International System of Units. This is so scientists from different countries can discuss topics and workings out without needing to stop and do conversions.
No, American measurements > third world, primitive measurements
Just use your jet pack on the way down to decelerate. That way you can stay immersive :P
+patrick71682 It can also be used to negate the super hero landing, meaning you don't have to wait as long to shoot.
If you don't have to hit the ground to die its the stop
+Potato Lord Your essentially hitting all of you innards with the a sledge hammer weighing however much your falling at. That's what kills you.
jullian rangel Thats why... IT WILL BE FIXED WITH MODS.
Mega Corporation You're cool. I've seen a few of your comments here.
What if they have discovered inertial dampening both for the pilot and the armour? I have no idea how that would work, but it would be cool!
I mean if they can contain all the power of a nuclear reactor inside a reactor core that's the size of my fist, I am more than sure inertial dampening wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
Another psychologist that did an experiment like that was Stanley Milgram, he is one of the 9 studies we had to learn in my psychology class
In this next titillating episode of "Man nitpicks everything"...
+Christian Quiles That's the point though. It's fun to nitpick certain mechanics in video games, and see how unrealistic they are, and how absolutely insane they would be if that happened in real life. Like his episode on plasma.
Samuel Lacey Oh
+Samuel Lacey But all these episodes do is make me wonder if he has OCD
If you don't wonder about the science behind stuff, then why do you bother watching?
Ruth Nield I do, but he's done these videos on meaningless things like Geralt's penis.
I let my friend play fallout 4 for the first time.
Walks into boston common
"Oh look! Stuff! I BET I CAN FIND SOME MONEY MONEY!"
"Bro,you should check VATS first"
"Nah,I GOT DIS!"
"HO MY GHAD A SWAANN!!"
what happened
YOU ARE SWANN
The swan was hiding in the pond waiting for someone to go near it.My friend thought that there was stuff floating in the river.Instead in was a Swan.
Czara Corsame I didn't encounter Swan until the third time I was passing through that pond.
Me walking through well, anywhere, really: F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5
Stanford Prison Experiment is considered to be botched last I checked. Subjects are supposed to go into the tests without any foreknowledge, but as memory serves he openly advertised asking for people who wanted to be prison guards and/or prisoners. He may have also encouraged some of the more disturbing behaviour, but I'm not sure about that one.
Fallout 4 power armor actually feels like a powered suit of armor instead of just heavy metal armor
Ah see, now we know where all that energy from the fusion cores actually goes: It isn't to power the armor, no sir, it is to counter all that kinetic energy caused from impacts/deceleration. How? No clue, but that is certainly where all that energy is going because it certainly is not all getting used to move around.
Oh wait! Idea: the suit actually creates some sort of suspension field that actually maintains your internal organs suspension in your cavities by stimulating the fluids and structures in the body that keep your organs where they are supposed to be. Sort of like how you can run an EM field over magnetic objects to make them move (obviously over-simplifying but you get the point). If their scientists could figure out how to make compact FUSION happen and mass-produce said units I am sure they could come up with a way to generate a field that counters the negative effects of deceleration on organic entities with fluid cavities that contain delicate organs. Such a continuous field would of-course require a huge amount of power to maintain thus the reason for a power source capable of powering large building being deleted in mere hours if not minutes of continuous use.
Ta-da! Fixed.
basically this suit has a four forklift
So... how bad would the damage actually be with the Freefall legs? I'm guessing your body would be reduced to fine pâté...
+Demonflesh spawn if you were lucky...
The freefall legs look to be designed with reducing G-force as the entire point
Like, did you know an average housecat cannot reach a velocity when falling that is fatal to it? Take that, and using something like the freefall boots, apply it to humans
+Peter Murphy Hint: Terminal velocity is inversely proportional to the mass of the object.
+Timo J yes, so, with that in mind, it is a fixed number that can be overcome
I feel that if you feel in a hole with power armor that stoped at your hips. Would be a huge problem since you can’t get out from pulling your self up and the unable to eject for the armor would lead you to die from hunger or water in irl
1:13 or you could become a vampire, no matter how high up you are, you can walk away from a high fall and even breath under water, stuff power armor, be a vampire in skyrim and fallout 4.
*cough* kinetic repulsors *cough*
I never realized video games needed to be uber realistic.
+Arthur Del Castillo Its a bit a fun
They don't, it's just fun to over-analyze things from time to time, especially when every once in a while they manage to chance upon getting it right.
It's a way to teach people about things like physics and make it interesting to a larger audience.
+ThatDude114 holy crap never thought about it that way smart thing to say
+proudnoob124 Fallout 9 to 5
The most curious thing is that fall damage negation is only part of the game, but canonically, power armor doesn't protect you. Graham lost his legs due to a bad fall, and according to the Prydwen terminal, an initiate tried jumping from the Mass Fusion rooftop, resulting in damaged power armor and a meat smoothie. In fact, when you arrive at the Prydwen, a scribe is fixing a power armor leg, apparently damaged because the knight decided to kick a Mirelurk xD.
We seem to forget that we're basically falling constantly and it's the ground under our feet that prevents us from moving downward. The fact that the apparent motion stops doesn't mean that we've stopped falling: if the counter weren't there, the apparent motion would just resume.
Something you seemed to forget about fighter pilots is that they wear pressure suits, which assist in preventing all blood flowing directly to their brain or legs.
I hate fall damage in Witcher 3. Super human mutant dies from a 10 ft fall.
Just roll after the fall.
Thanks, that helps. Point still stands though. Geralt should have legs of steel.
+Dan Watson He probably doesn't die, justg shatters his legs, which in most places in the Witcher either will kill Geralt from, thirst/starvation, or gets him killed the more ... conventional way.
+Kristopher Workman pleb means ordinary. kind of. if you're going to insult me sir. do it right. plonker.
+Kristopher Workman good sir, step down before you hurt yourself. I've had a few rumbles in my day and don't mind having another.
I am not afraid of heights, I'm afraid of falling from any hight!
I think the deal here is that the power armor throws all the g-force to the ground (or sides) instead of you, with some kind of springs or something, then it would be just redirecting it to another direction, probably the same way shell's (portal series) "shoes" works
Here's another problem with power armor: "Power cores power a building for years!" and yet...you run out of juice in a few hours.
Core in building powering one light.
Core in Vehicle powering multiple systems including life support....
+Pwnopolis we only see it powering one light, but when it was designed, it was meant to supply ALL of the power for an entire building if not more.
It even says somewhere in game that a fusion core will power a suit of power armor for a 100 years or something like that
Basically Bethesda retconned that shit so they could make a cool new game mechanic I think.
Game Crow
What are you basing this assumption on.
I'm basing mine on the fact that remove the core & nothing in any building goes off but the one light.
My statement is based on evidence, yours is assumption.
"I'm scared of falling and dying."
Jumps off from extremely high places.....
The Hank Green bit nearly made me spittake my breakfast. Well done, I never noticed how similar you two sounded before today.
He forgot that time in this game is like 15 times faster than real time
I did the research, And I have determined that the lightest commercially available slug for a 308 winchester (presumably the .308 round used in the Fallout franchise) that I could find reliable data for is 110 grains. That bullet, fired from a 24 inch barrel would generate exactly 3,316.34 Joules of energy at 100 yards. The most common bullet weight for .308 winchester 150 grains, which generates a force of 3,600 Joules. The most that T-51 power Armor can sustain is 2500 Joules, meaning that any one with a decent .308 hunting rifle and some ammunition could easily kill a soldier in power armor in ONE shot to the chest. Eat that, Bethesda! Kind of a fatal flaw, considering that the most common round for sniper rifles and medium machine guns to be chambered is 7.62x51mm NATO, which is the military variant of .308 and those would probably be the best weapons to use against power armour.
I think of it similar to an early tank. Still vulnerable to Something bigger than what others are used to but still a huge threat to anyone who doesn't have the adequate power to take them down. Not to mention it's made harder when you remember that power armor pets you fire a minigun from the hip, if they could even get close enough to the soldiers in power armor then they could probably do something about them, but when you have 5 minigun trained on your position things get much harder
DAMN YOU'RE SMART
Power Armor is not new and improved. The fusion cores only last 5 to 10 minutes. That's the opposite of improved.
one lasted me like 30 minutes you have to conserve it
Nuclear Physicist perk
Everything you do that uses AP also uses up your fusion core. You can fast-travel, run, swim, jump, and fire from the hip forever and never use up your FC. Sprinting, VATS, Jet Pack, Power attacks, and Steady aiming are all going to use that thing up. The more AP you burn, the faster your core goes. I think I held my aim steady for the full AP bar and burned about half of my FC, you can burn a core up in about a minute this way.
If you use AP a lot, go for the upgrades that reduce AP cost. Those are the Optimized Bracers and Optimized legs. Double up on both and a Legendary weapon with reduced VATS cost to get the most out of your FC.
its called the nuclear physicist perk, also you find cores way faster than you use them even without the perk
I have no idea how Power Armor was effective out in the field during war when they use up power so quickly. I thought the military usually liked to equip their soldiers with stuff that, you know, lasts for days, not 10 minutes (or 10 seconds if you're sprinting or using VATS.) That makes even less sense than no falling damage.
All I took away from this video is that Yamacha from DBZ is a boss. He tanked 300gs stayed in it for over a minute before shutting off the machine (mind you lifting his body and arm in and upward motion against the weight) and survived.
You said that you wanted to escape from reality in videogames, but still you’re wining
Speaking of deadly heights you can locate the Freefall Legs (which prevent falling damage without need of power armor) in the Mass Fusion building. There is also a journal by the inventor who mentions that Power Armor have hydraulic shock absorption integrated into them.
Finally someone who understands the lore in the game...
That would have absolutely no effect...
thank you!
+Jamesgy The III Not steel. A titanium alloy that I'm guessing includes at least a little bit of osmium. And those hydraulic shock absorbers are being powered by a fusion core which powered massive generators for 200 years without draining a single percentage point of power. Of course...this is also a game that negates any and all fall damage as long as you manage to fall into water...but only if it's 5 feet or deeper...idk.
+Jamesgy The III the same goes for fighter pilots but with training one could build up a a tolerance to G forces like fighter pilots do and also people who invented power armor built-in medical Integrated Systems into the suit to monitor Vital Signs and a minister medical supplies to the wear if needed also the suit is possibly pressurized due to the fact that when you're underwater you do not drown in your power armor
What if you tried to theorize how the power armor would mitigate falling damage?
Like now you know what the forces are... Now what would be necessary to ignore them?
+HiiroRocker101
Inertial dampening. which is some pretty advanced shit.
and lets be honest here, Most games don't do gravity force right. most of them are bounding around like they're on Jupiter.
+Taylor Di Angelo not to mention they explain power armor physics in the game at mass fusion building when you get the free fall leggings
Magic. There is no other method to stop it that fast without completely destroing your body.
TheTekOr Oleg I mean, the forces according to shoddy's predictions? no way. you'd flat out die. but Like I said, most Video-games don't map gravity very well. neither do they tend to force you to sit through a six-ten second animation as the suit massively dampens the impact with shock springs. we don't see what's going on inside the suit. maybe the outer mass is stopped, but the player is still slowing down inside. it seems to take a few seconds to start moving again after?
Taylor Di Angelo just look at how they stop Dragsters in real life.
Okay, but Austin’s Hank Green impression is amazing
But, since you damage nearby enemies when fall, doesn't that mean that the ground absorbs a lot of the impact, spreading it out to nearby areas? It's enough force absorbed and spread to hurt another organisim.
When you put weights can you PLEASE include kilograms? I'm from Italy and I have no idea how many kg a pound (?) is.
Same thing goes for feet and metres
+Fil1204 I don't know the magic trick to convert feet to metter but one pound is about half a kilo.
Just use a converter
+Fil1204
Would be nice, yes.
When roughly converting I think of a pound being 0.5 kg and a feet roughly 30 cm. Technically a bit off, but good enough to get an idea. :P
+Fil1204 Agreed, considering it's a science based thing you'd assume that he'd use SI units.
I like the old shoddycast with the lore videos that were more than 6 minutes long that were also just narrated, no actors
Austin: Power armor makes no sense. Free fall Combat Armor: mmm
Actually, the player character is about 6 feet tall without power armour. The power armour adds a foot of height, so the power armour is 7 feet.
"It's not the sudden stop that kills you, It's the sudden deceleration" ....That's...that's what a stop is....
No not really, when you are talking about a car crash you are still moving after impact. Not for long obviously
+Ice Bird Gaming Shhhhh....
If that's the case, every stop would be a deceleration so there would be no stop
+Antone Williams A stop is still a sudden deceleration. Even if it looks like someone who hits the ground stops moving instantly, they don't. It's impossible to stop moving instantly. Because of newton's second law, that would require infinite force, which is impossible. So it will still take a very small amount of time to stop, so you will always still be moving after impact in any situation.
+Ice Bird Gaming a stop means there is no motion... period... a deceleration is stopping but there is motion... period.
The sad thing is what he explained took a WEEK for my science teacher to explain. (but she is still great)
Just imagine falling from a tall building into an open suit of Power Armor lying on the ground; basically the same thing.
Wouldn’t we also have to factor in the relative time difference between our time and fallout time, one second for us being 20 seconds for them? With the stop happening at one tenth of a second would equate to 2 seconds in Fallout time?
If it was a two second time I only got 5 and a half g's