Disventure Camp: The Good, the Bad and the Riya - season review
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Odd Nation Cartoon's Disventure camp has now wrapped up! And with a new season just around the corner, I think it's time we delve deeper into what made Disventure Camp 2 so good... and also not so good!
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I don't even know where I would rank Riya. She goes from a forgettable but sympathetic character to doing a selfish but understanding move by eliminating Lake to then becoming a complete villain with no sympathy and doing acts that are just mean for the sake of being mean. Like, how do you rank a character that has done one of the most interesting moves in the whole game but also had the worst character derailments in the whole show?
Maybe a "mixed feelings" tier
Idk if it's derailment she was finally interesting for once
Her eliminating Lake was the perfect upset for the show... then she went cartoonishly evil. It was so disappointing
I love her so mutch however i hoped that the scene in the finale where she was in the underwater cave crying for help was Just an act
she did have development tho. the reason why she started playing so dirty was because she felt like everyone else was as well. she says in one of the episodes “is playing dirty the only way to get ahead in this game?” and after that is when she started doing distasteful things.
2:58 This literally describes Hunter.
Hunter is a loner but also handsome and really good at challenges, everyone wants to be his friend, and he has a love triangle.
Honestly I would’ve like Riya a bit more if she kept her insecure personality but was really fake. She was overly confident in the finale but it should’ve been in a more “I want to win” space then I’m a villain space. Riya should’ve just been a good person with bad intentions but not a villain. More so of the main antagonist or anti-villain.
As a Survivor super fan I can confirm Riya’s plan is one of the worst strategic and social decisions I’ve ever seen. Making everyone hate you and being forced to use an idol is a horrible plan as you lose your allies and connections which forces Rita into a corner. The plan is fine for what she was trying to achieve but trying to achieve this horrid acquirement sucks. You can take out threats without blowing up your game. I don’t hate stealing the immunity idol but she could’ve save it for ANOTHER round considering she already had very few connections with the cast.
that was the very last round the idol could of been used
how else could she have taken out hunter? considering he wins all immunities until the final 4
They had a really similar character arc to Riya's before, with Eli in the adventure camp (the first season), except they did it good.
* Just a quick warning, I'm about to talk about spoilers for adventure camp. If you want to watch it, or maybe they're planning similar storylines for the reboot and you want to go completely blind, don't read. *
Like Riya, Eli betrays her friend and, but we see that she feels guilty. In the elimination ceremony, she confesses and tells him she manipulated him and apologies. A totem is used, so he doesn't go home, and in the next episodes, she tries to restore their friendship.
Eventually he starts trusting her again, but in the final three, she wins and get to choose who to take to the finale with her, and she betrays him again, to have higher chance to win. But we still see that she still appreciates their friendship, we see that she was conflicted, and used her brain instead of her heart. In the finale, she tries to get him to trust her again, but with no success.
It is really similar to Riya. They both betray their friends to get advantage in the game. But with Eli, unlike Riya, we see the guilt and she tries to fix things. With Riya we don't, so it feels rushed unlike her. Actually, when she betrays lake by saying nothing, she felt a little like Eli, she was guilty and unsure of it was the right thing to do.
I think the reason for that difference is mainly because Eli is presented as a protagonist, while Riya is an antagonist. For Eli, as a protagonist, we see the conflict. She makes mistakes. But with Riya, they just make her evil. We don't see another side of her, that maybe questions if betraying Rosa was the right move or not. We don't see her trying to make things right.
They also had the underdevelopment issue with Eli, which made them more similar. In the first few episodes, Eli does basically nothing. She doesn't get a lot of dialog, and doesn't interact with other contestants. While watching the season for the first time, every episode I thought "this is the episode where she goes home. All other characters had a storyline and she doesn't", but she didn't. Same thing happened with Riya. The only storylines she had before the merge was in episode three with Connor, and swapping Rosa and Yul. I expected her to go early, and the more episodes where she didn't, the more similarities I found between her and Eli.
I really liked Eli's story, and I hope to see some version of it in the reboot, but it just makes me wonder, how can they mess up a storyline, when they already successfully did basically the same storyline before?
@@bossome77777 I think adventure camp is worse. It has good moments like Eli’s complexity, Miriam’s arc, decent villains, and some good eliminations, but the episodes are way shorter than disadventure camp. This means that the show doesn’t have time to develop the characters and their relationships. A lot of the characters make dumb decisions, and most of the cast is eliminated before they can reach their potential. Finally, the host is just a worse version of Chris with a bad twist.
Tbh I completely forgot about Riya until she became the villain, in which I was upset she was the villain instead of Karol, a contestant I was sad to see go and was delighted to see return as a sympathetic villain.
THIS REVIEW IS PERFECT AND LITERALLY SUMS UP EVERY WAY I FEEL ABOUT DISVENTURE CAMP LOL!!
As much as like Disventure Camp it had so much missed potential mainly with Rosa Maria (my favorite character), Lake and Riya you made great points about all of them and I feel like their were ways their presence in the season could’ve been utilized better! :D 🌈🦄💖
Starting with Rosa I completely agree with what you said about how she’s a supporting character and I feel like the show couldve acknowledged her selflessness in comparison to the selfishness of the other competitors in the game! I think they could’ve done a great parallel with her and Riya where Rosa sacrifices her needs and desires for others in the game while Riya priorities her needs and desires! Rosa is the sweetest character in the season and has an incredible moral compass but I also feel it would’ve been great if she learned that it’s okay to prioritize herself sometimes and that it’s not selfish to keep your needs it mind, many people (including myself lmao) are people pleasers and that would’ve been a nice message to pick up on! :) I also think there could’ve been a great moment during the finale when Riya breaks down where she talks to Rosa and they both learn that their ways of thinking are unbalanced and that they should be kind to others and also prioritize themselves and their dreams and wants! I think that’s what Disventure Camp was going for but I wish it was emphasized more! 💖
As for Lake she definitely should’ve been the protagonist over Aiden and I wish we got to know more about her personality, yes she wants to please (and eventually rebel) against her parents but what does want to do with the money? What are her hobbies and interests? Yes she wants freedom but freedom to do what? 🤔
Then there’s Riya, I like the idea of her as an antagonist but not a villian. It would’ve been extremely interesting if Riya simply just wanted to prioritize her acting career, she would be a genuinely kind person that doesn’t want to hurt others or break friendships but it’s the only way she can play the game, get the million and follow her dreams! It would’ve made the other contestants finding out she betrayed Lake and Rosa and especially her breakdown in the finale hit HARD especially as someone who’s all for ✨ following your dreams ✨ and because Riya in this version truly wants friends and a sense belonging but feels she has to choose between those and her career! On top of that Karol could’ve been an amazing more villainous antagonist (which by the way would be completely justified, my girl was robbed twice and Aiden was so wrong for breaking her trust on her 2nd elimination which was *way* out of character but that’s another thing 💀) and it would’ve been an amazing concept to see two antagonists who are sympathetic in comparison to some morally gray protagonists like Hunter, James and even Aiden which for Aiden could’ve been built up more so his decision in Karol’s elimination episode wasn’t out of character! That concept is something Total Drama hasn’t really dived into before and it could really set it apart from other fan seasons and even the official Total Drama seasons (from what I’ve heard that might’ve been explored with Bowie and Julia in TDI 2023 but I haven’t watched it so I can’t say for sure lol)!
Great review Silly Billy your videos are the best and its a W every time you upload! :D ✨✨
dang what a review! :D saving this one for the train ride to work tomorrow
@@SillyBillyDucky Your literally my idol and this is best day ever YIPPIE! 🥳✨
Thank you Billy! :D 🌈🦄💖
they literally made karol look like one of my 7th grade geography teachers
Bro what even is going on with that profile pic xD
@@SillyBillyDucky idek
Kristal looks like my Spanish teacher even down to the voice 😭
It’s just IMPOSSIBLE to correctly rank Riya. If you rank her low, you feel like her devious ahh arc at the end should place her higher, but if you rank her high, you feel she didn’t do enough for her to deserve it. And there aren’t even ENOUGH characters for there to be a middle, so you’re just stuck.
Roya is such a mixed character that you’d need to make a whole seperate video for her in a tier list vid or sum
23:48 CodySimp shows an excellent explanation on Riya. To be honest, a part of me wanted Riya to win, but as a way of showing that while she got to her goal, was it worth it? She has no friends and no one would hire her for work based on her previous actions. I also wished there was some sort of karma Riya should have received in the finale for playing with people’s lives, literally (leaving Aiden to die) and metaphorically (Stealing Rosa’s totem, etc).
I agree with every point you made, great video. I used to be the biggest supporter of "baddie Riya 🤪💅" but after giving it more thought and re-watching the first few episodes it dosen't make much sense. Her switching between feeling remorseful and few scenes later to the *big bad* is odd to say the least. If they made her not feel anything, but joy seeing Lake go home would be better starting point for the same Riya in episodes 10-13. But we did not.
---- This is how I would re-write it---
They should've use Karol as the main villain for few episodes (9-10) and have her manipulate Riya to do nasty things and keep validating her wrongdoings. Then after the fact, Riya would backstab Karol in the fashion of what happend to Rosa, but have Karol in that role to set up Riya as the antagonist.
By that what do I mean?
Episode 8 - Lake still gets out (everything is the same, but Karol overhears Riya confessional and plans her moves for next episode)
Episode 9 - Karol approaches Riya, starts her manipulation and tells her that she can only trust her. She tells her that Rosa isn't her friend. If she is her friend then why did she wait to tell her about the totem this late? This gets Riya mixed up on her friendship and Karol uses it to her advantage. They "bond" in the episode and at the end Karol tells Riya to give Rosa taste of what kind of friend she is. Karol demands Riya to steal her totem and vote her out, Riya dosen't want to in the beginning but after some time she believes Karol more. She steals it and both + Hunter and Ally they vote for Rosa. Its double elimination so Ally gets out too. This shocks Rosa on how she did got out and we have a scene, where Karol takes Rosa to the bus stop and thats where Karol spill the beans that she used Riya to get rid of her and now she has an ally and a totem to her advantage. Rosa does the same thing in episode 10.
Episode 10 - Riya and Karol do nasty stuff to other contestants. Riya still is conflicted on what she did to Rosa, but Karol says that she did a good thing. Later in episode she forces Riya to steal James phone and put it in Hunters bag, along with her perfume. This annoys Riya and she starts doubting Karol. Karol gets really annoying and demanding this episode. Later on this episode it is revealed that Riya set Karol up. Nobody believes Karol, so she gets voted out and Riya is now fully evil now.
Episode 11 Riya feels like shes on the top of the game. She thinks what she does is fine, since Karol kept repeating that its just a game and there's not turning back now, well sort of. She thinks about those days where she and Rosa were besties, but shrugs it off. She does the same thing in this episode. She has dirt on James, but is conflicted again, if it the right thing to do. She starts to think that she has nothing to lose anyways, since she has done some messed up stuff and does it. But feels bad about it afterwards. James and Hunter vote for Riya, bcz of what she did. Aiden votes for Riya too, cuz she should've told him sooner and he thinks she's an opportunist. It dosent matter since she has a totem. Hunter is out.
Episode 12 (oh boy this one needs a lot of rewriting)
I would start the episode like in the canon Riya smirks and walks towards the cabin, but deep inside she feels like a monster, she puts up an act. She dosen't lock the cabin, but neither James nor Aiden want to sleep there (Aiden bcz of James and James bcz he feels guilty on what he did to Aiden). We get a confessional of Riya trying to validate herself again, but she knows shes in the wrong. She states that she has come so far and she needs to win, she dosent have any roles for her and she struggles financially, she won't back away now. I would keep everything that happens the same (the whole flashbacks scene) we get to the challenge and instead of Riya trying to ki11 Aiden in every step, she's trying to guilt trip him on how he made it so far. This angers Lake and Connor ofc and Connor giving up on Riya still happens. Riya dosen't care that much on what they think of her, bcz she, herself think of herself as of monster. This escalates on that clif and instead of Aiden falling off, he has a meltdown and starts crying. Riya is shocked for a second, but she shrugs it off again and drops down, like in canon.
Episode 13 - James comforts Aiden and all that good stuff. They make up and kiss. Aiden pushes off James and Aiden is eliminated. We cut back to Riya, she struggles working alone, but she keeps her gameface on. She's on the lead, finds the key, but gets lost. Her past will now haunt her and shes in frantic state. Now she finally admits to herself that she was in the wrong the entire time. But also knows she was a victim as well. James catches up and is in the lead, but Riya makes it by herself too. The last leg of the challange is the same, but I would change the outcome. Riya wins money, but everyone hates her now, this sets up a plot for her redemption in All Stars season. James and Aiden make up and are a couple now.
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I know this doesnt sound the best, but I tried.
amazing, thz for that :)
THIS IS AMAZING AND I WISH IT WAS CANNON
Odd Nation should've done this instead
Another problem with Karol is how shes literally only brought back as a way to say "James didnt do anything wrong"
Was she whiny? Absolutely. Was she petty? Sure. But was she in the wrong? Not really.
The show portrays her as being thjs evil witch nobody should root for, but she genuinely thought Aiden was a traitor. And he only solidifies that thought by KILLING THE INNOCENT SPIDER??? Not to mention, it was AIDEN who bashed her and Olivers sled first. "I didnt wanna hurt Karol" yeah sure buddy.
Aiden genuinely feels like a Mary-Sue. His only flaw is that hes "boring" and naive. And hes clearly a writers pet. I like him, but he started to go downhill so fast. Why didnt he COMMUNICATE with Karol and tell her what happened? That wouldve avoided ALL this nonsense.
Amd can we also talk about how Hunter, Tess and Ally basically only interact with each other? Theyre great, but it wouldve worked a lot better if they interacted with the rest of the cast more. And theres literally no reason to make Hunter win EVERY merge challenge too. His win in the sled challenge was so forced and it was obviously just a way to get rid of Ally. And i think Hunter and Ally shouldve switched their eliminations. Not only were FIVE girls eliminated in a row, Ally felt like she needed a bit more development.
Also, i agreed with your thoughts on Riya. I hate how they handled her. Its especially weird how they picked the immigrant character to be this cartoonishly evil villain? Thats honestly a bit in poor taste for me.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU! Aiden should’ve communicated and made things right with Karol and he was 100% in the wrong and Ally deserved to get more development!
Yeah. The final villain should've been another cartoonish straight white male like in all the other movies because you know...diversity.
And you know... the more quantity of melanin is in your skin the less evil you can be.🤓🤡
@@l.7584 reading comprehension is at an all time low if thats what you got from my comment. JESUS what a stupid reply.
@@l.7584 are you ok? Are you done making up things in your head? Also can you even name any "straight white male finale villains (or villains at all)" in td/dc that aren't scott. They didn't even mention race, the said immigrant which can be any race. Lmao
@@thatboomerangguy2037 if Riya wasn't a poc than the oc wouldn't give a F if she was an immigrant or not and me making an accurate observation about todays culture and media in general is not making things up in my head. I, among many others are absolutely fed up with your woke lunacy and absolute insanity at this point.
A literal transman is the lead protagonist and its still not woke enough for some of you.
And another major problem for me was how they handeled Rosa, Lake, Tess, and Ally.
Rosa: They didn't have a good arc for Rosa (still love her though) and ig it was to help others, but I wish we could learn more about her and that they could give her some more focus. But she is still pretty likable, nonetheless.
Lake: Lake still had a lot more to offer, just like Harold in TDA; she could've rebelled against her parents more, etc. It was a major missed potential.
Tess: They could've made her more social outside her group, because she only interacted with Hunter and Ally. They really did her dirty.
Ally: They didn't give her any character development. While she was fun, she really should've gotten more development.
3:23 fun fact the new total drama season started before disventure camp so they did it first
The biggest problem for me was how OddNation decided to bring back Karol ONLY to influence Riya on her game, she caused nothing, and everything was the same after she left, no one had even talked about her next episode. She could've caused more drama, especially towards Aiden and James.
And for Riya's development, I have to agree unfortunately, and her redemption was way too forced for me. And instead of her doing nothing, she could've been forshadowed more, for example, maybe manipulating Rosa and Lake before elimimating them, and maybe explaining why they should've been eliminated (Lake: a big threat, Ally: the alliance came back together, Rosa: if Hunter won, Aiden and James would've voted for Riya, and so would Hunter probably, Hunter: easily the biggest threat for winning every challenge)
And for Tess, they should've swapped her with Ally, and they also should've done more with Maggy before she got out. These are the main problems I have with the season, if it instead had been like this: Karol causing drama, Riya's villainy forshadowed, more Tess development, where Ally gets 9th place instead, and focusing more on Maggy before she left, and maybe making a web-comic (or a few) about Kai and Maggy, then I'd probably give the season a 9.5/10, but unfortunately, I have to give it a 7/10, since they could've done a lot more with certain characters, and I definitely liked season 1 more
also, this isn't the writers' fault, but people focus WAY too much on Aiden and James, like that's the only thing everyone talks about. I feel like people should also focus on characters such as Lake, Tess, or Rosa. And also, when Karol got injured, people were praising Aiden. wtf? He bumped her first, and killed a spider, risked Oliver (his friend), and injured Karol, so why is he acting like he's in the right? The same goes for Aiden x James fans, Aiden was not in the right, Karol had every right to get mad at Aiden
Riya is so BAD like omg-
She had potential being a sympathetic anti hero
But being a complete super villain was the wrong choice
REAL ‼️
Glad my review could be of help for your video! ❤
It was a really good review honestly.
@@candii_sweets ty! ❤️
I feel like the biggest mistake Disadventure Camp made was eliminating Yul too early. The show really went downhill after this move as it felt like they where constantly trying to make another character the new villain, which just derailed so much characters.
I honestly thought they’d pull Heather plot armor and keep him safe from elimination until at least the merge. I’ll give them one thing, I certainly wasn’t expecting what they ended up doing.
yul shouldve been elimination at episode 7 at least
Well, Yul is confirmed to be one of the contestants in All-Stars so he has another chance.
That’s because then it wouldn’t be predictable
agreed without yul there was no conflict or villian for like 5 episodes straight and yul was pretty much the only source of comedy
Congrats for voicing the host for season 1 of Disventure camp
I rate this season 6/10. hunter was easily the best character imo
Literally subscribing after this review, it's soo good and it completely sums up my thoughts on Disventure Camp! Really hope the season 1 remake improves the writing, i'll be waiting for your review for it too when it finishes.
23:29 Look Gary! There I am!
But fr, you going into the depths of Riyas writing flaws made me realize something. Couldnt Riya have done those evil acts without being so heartless and sympathetic? Evil makes one do crazy things, but so does desperation. Wouldnt "Im sorry, but I just cant go back to India" be more reasonable that "Im gonna let you die so I can win"?
Video hasn’t premiered and people are talking about the terrible writing this show had, love it. Good show, horrible writing.
I loved disventure camp! It really scratched the total drama itch really good. I even gave them money. I hope odd nation cartoons continue to grow and I can’t wait to see desventure camp season 1 and see how much they’ve improved.
Speaking of additional research, there’s a ton of goodies over at Calazar Zone’s channel, every audition tape except James, an iceberg video, the theme song WITH LYRICS, it’s in Spanish though.
Omg your voicing trevor !!
I just saw, I can’t believe silly billy is part of disventure camp now!!!
Riyas goofy ahh sudden villain arc kinda reminds me of scarlett in tdpi and mal/mike in tdas ngl, it just kinda pops out of nowhere for no good reason
Great analsysis video!
Great vie and loved the riya part discussion
I do agree with you but idk what it is i still love her character 😆
sometimes that's just how it is!
@@SillyBillyDucky yes also great vid can't wait to see more vids in the future your one of my fave youtubers :)
Disventure camp was 6/10 for me.
Riya in episode 8 and 10 as a "villain" was ok (still my favorite characther tho) but then in episode 11 and 12 she became too cartoony, and her "redemption" was so random whatever.
I don't like the elimination order at all, hunter, ally and aiden were to bland for me, speacially aiden how is suposed to be a main characther, but he is just boring. They went to far in the top
I like that the characthers that are votet early are not less important, actually oliver is one of my favorites.
I liked the challenges, and also the characthers interactions.
The love triangle was pretty meh for me, none of them actually spoke to me, well tess kinda do for me.
James and lake are objectively the best characthers.
My favorites episodes were the ones of the secrets, the thriller one and the one when rosa get eliminated. Personally.
Karol comeback was a total missed oportunity, i know she was there for the advance of the Riya and Aiden development, but still missed oportunity aniways.
I love kristal tho
My personal ranking
1- riya (sorry, just love her)
2- james
3- lake
4- oliver
5- connor
6- tess
7- yul
8- karol
9- rosa maría
10- hunter
11- aidem
12- ally
13- kai
14- maggy (just boring for me)
YOUR VOICING TREVOR IN THE REMAKE OF ADVENTURE CAMP 🤨??
Regards I thought of Julia from tdi 2023 with her true personality start be reveled in the 5th episode
I think pre-merge Disventure Camp is better than merge, and here's another problem I think you should've put: How Hunter kept winning every single challenge at merge until his elimination, the only thing I wasn't a big fan of, there should've been more players winning challenges, instead of just one person. I did like the season though, a lot, it gets an 8/10 for me. But I honestly prefer the former season 1 (which gets a 9.2/10 for me).
Same, I think pre-merge was better
not only that but hunter's wins were always kinda forced, like give lake a win at least lol
@@sandwich_ong The only time his win was really necessary was at the final five, that was a good win. And ig the final eight was also necessary
I think adventure camp is worse. It has good moments like Eli’s complexity, Miriam’s arc, decent villains, and some good eliminations, but the episodes are way shorter than disadventure camp. This means that the show doesn’t have time to develop the characters and their relationships. A lot of the characters make dumb decisions, and most of the cast is eliminated before they can reach their potential. Finally, the host is just a worse version of Chris with a bad twist.
@@ericasher2010 True, like for example Tom eliminated Gabby over Grett which makes zero sense. I get he wanted a war, but he could've ended it by eliminating Grett. If Grett was immune, then it would make sense to eliminate Gabby. But she wasn't, it was the perfect opportunity to vote her off.
A final four, with 2 people that have a seemingly inseparable bond, then the villain who ends up getting 2nd place uses one of the person’s previous opinions about the other person in order to break them apart. The villain who gets second place then targets the biggest threat and goes to the final three with the inseparable duo that got separated. The inseparable duo make up in the finale and one of them beats the villain who drove them apart. Disventure Camp season 2 and total drama reboot season 1
or a situation where; she's been being a good girls, her whole life, gets a taste of rebellion, go to far with it and a friend has to try and her out of it and/or get in a fight the her friend; something like; lake saying; "i'm finally free, free from my parents, and now you want me to go back, never again!!!" but then after a few episodes she realizes what she's become and, has to learn to find a balance between freedom and doing the right thing/ not hurting anyone (or something like that).
it’s been 5 months and the fact that ally went further than lake still baffles me
I like Riya's derailment because she goes from a minor character to one of the main character's, if you want her to sit in the back and doing nothing but be an easy elimination then that's on you but having her change into something of main character wealth is better in my opinion
Maybe you should do a video about how you would rewrite disventure camp?
Ngl I feel like Riya was put in the back a little but still, with each episode I could see her becoming more evil. Like when she started to lose trust for Rosa or when she started talking with Carol. Their was many times where Riya did a “side unsure.” Look as her trust and ideas started to change in each episode. Maybe it wasn’t as noticeable but it was still there.
However I do agree that they could have done a little better with the character, given the time they had with her.
Who do you think will make all stars ?
Riya being one of the worst written villains I've ever seen
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I agree. Her in episode 10 and 11 was good, but then they ruined everything in 12 and 13. What a horrible way to end a villain arc
@@pandora2307 I feel like even in episodes 10 and 11 she kinda goes against what her character was initially preseted as with little to no explanation why. One of Riya's biggest problems is how she switches back and forth between her emotions and her getting James' phone feels like Courtney's chart all over again
@@totaldramarejectisland hey I remember you I saw you in that one reaction video
Can agree on that. Apart from Aiden, she's probably the worst written character in the entire cast.
I thought they were going in the right direction with how she eliminated Lake, but then Rosa's elimation happened and I had no idea what they were trying to do with her. It's one thing to be a villian who wants to win the money, becoming an asshole out of nowhere is a diffrent story.
James is seriously the only one who deserved to make it to the final 3(and even that's questionable).
9:53 If you ask me, Aiden didn't betray Karol's "trust" as Karol was just acting 'nice' to him to put him in a false sense of security, as evident with her bad mouthing him behind his back
yeah, she's pretty petty, but still shit talking does not amount to killing an innocent spider, risking 2 person's lifes and even breaking the leg of one of those persons.
the hell gondola of losers had me laughing every time and this my 2nd rewatch
Love the rag n bone man "human" part
Have the already rated the original cast? if not I would really like to see you rank them!
of disventure camp
hey i wonder if your making videos on other fanmade td projects because i have started one. The episodes havent premiered yet, they’ll premier in June.
for riya it did make sense imo with her doing what she did, she even implied that she needs the money to be an actress, and she knew if she didn't she would not be in the final 2/3
i feel like it was subtle that she would be doing this throughout the episodes esp when connor sacrificed himself when it def would've been her most likely, i feel like at that point thats where the subtle hints begin
mind you i would do the same for an immunity idol, rosa gotta go sorry!!
I like aidens design and all but he got carried in competition in story in like everything aiden shouldve go way earlier imo
how are they just gonna go
“oo nice ring”
*pulls it off aggressively without her realizing* 😭😭
You said everything I thought about Riya!
What makes the whole riya situation worse is the fact that they already had a character that could have fill this spot perfectly if they had set it up right as in from episode 7. Fucking Tess yeah you read that right Tess in episode 7 tess finds out about the plan for the alliance of five to vote her or ally out. She could've talked to the members of the alliance that are lower on the totem pole (james aiden and riya) and struck up the deal to keep her in this would guarantee the majority against ally Eliminating her with both ally and hunter none the wiser after this she could cement this sorta pseudo alliance with the three by booting lake in the following episode she would then have better standing with aiden and james and could likely convince at least james to betray rosa eliminating her next now going into the final 5 with the only thing standing in her way to victory being riya who is untouchable thanks to rosa's totem and the couple however she has one big issue that being hunter and this is when she would knock him out betraying him in the challenge but later justifying it to him by saying that it was the only way for her to stay hunter would believe this and forgive her since he is a simp after this all she would need to do is convince riya that aiden and james want her gone at which point riya would play the idol out of fear and guaranteeing hunters fall the only point where Tess is ever really at risk of losing is the final 4 however thanks to the paranoia she invokes in riya in the previous episode james and aiden now know riya doesn't trust them which could give them enough reasoning to cut her loose forcing a tie as Tess would convince riya to side with her and vote off james which would send Tess into the final 3 with a massive advantage either way the tie falls against 2 people that trust her more than the other player or against 2 people who refuse to hurt eachother. But no let's have Tess do absolutely nothing with the information of her upcoming elimination and not try to save her own ass.
I'll add Tess to the list of characters who could have better filled the villain spot. James, Yul, Karol and now Tess
@SillyBillyDucky Hello me again. So after think about the villain Tess story it actually makes a lot more sense if Tess as a villain did these things
1st: Get hunter to eliminate aiden in episode 8 she would be far more likely to get riya to change her vote which would help with manipulating her and it would isolate james as he would have no one else to look to other than her as that is the only person he has made a decent friendship with outside his group cause she has made the girls look like the bad guys by getting rid of his boyfriend
2: manipulate karol and james to unknowingly keep eachother in the game sighting the girls alliance as a major threat and getting rosa eliminated to further break up the alliance (Tess doesn't know about the totem but Rosa also would have no reason to suspect she would be eliminated at this point also Karol wouldn't be eliminated because aiden isn't here to break her leg) once riya comes to confront Tess however, she can blame the whole thing on hunter because riya would still trust her and be forced to latch on
3 This is the point in the game where she gets lake to waste the statue but not on herself but on riya, by convincing Riya that hunter believes lake staying is in his best interest it would convince riya that she needs to be safe and when she obviously doesn't win the challenge she tells lake to play the idol on her which she does Ultimately getting lake eliminated because Tess will have gotten her alliance to vote lake sighting her being the biggest threat and she can then make sure that riya believes she can still trust Tess by saying hunter changed his mind right before the elimination and she didn't have enough time to tell her about the change so lake saves riya for nothing and riya who has now lost both people close to her is the easiest to manipulate contestant.
4. At this point Tess's only real issue is hunter so she just needs to manipulate riya into voting hunter, making sure she wins the challenge so hunter is still eligible to eliminate, and convince karol and james that the other is tired of them and wants them gone. Which means Karol will vote james, james will vote karol, hunter will vote riya, and riya and Tess will eliminate hunter.
5: at this point she basically guaranteed her and riya a spot in the finale and it just comes down to booting karol because james has shown many times how trash he Is at challenges and only one in the canon show due to riya burning all her bridges however for Tess she still has ally and hunter who still trusted her completely.
In conclusion Tess would've been a way better villain and I wish they chose her instead cause she would have been way more calculative
The New Season Has The Same Cast That They Made From Total Drama Adventure And They Added Two Characters
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The good The bad and the Fiore
Fiore actually makes sense though, a child grown with no love whose quite literally been told she’s a mistake to her face, when in a position where she was forced to choose between her heart/bonds (alec) and her brain/logic (ally or Ellie I forgot her name😭😭) it makes sense why she’d choose logic. Not only that but unlike priya, she was established as a antagonist at the beginning of the story and very calculated, with her opting to choose whatever benefits her regardless of who she fucks over, so it being done to alec whose she’s literally plotted with to do manipulative and hurtful things for the sake of an advantage in the game, choosing to betray alec as much as it hurt makes sense. It’s also poetic irony that the person who got through by manipulating and betraying lost due to betrayal. In priyas case she wasn’t developed well with subtle hints at most of her unexpected and severely underdeveloped cartoonish unsympathetic behavior while Fiore was always a demon child. If anything she’s actually one of my favorite antagonists.
I agree tho also nice video billy like always ofcs
There should be a scene where it's stated that Riya is acting like that mean character she turns into, just so she can deal with that since she got to understood that's the way to win the game
I'm kinda mixed on jaiden. I think james is the best character of the season but aiden has no personality honestly. He's just a nice kid i guess. And the spider thing just made me hate him
I likes your video!
For a fanmade series you would think they’d mail the writing and mess up on the visuals. But no… the writing was atrocious. Aidan is one of my least favorite characters in any show, ever. He was so insufferable when James was trying to help him, I was hoping James would dump his lame ass. Riya makes no sense as a villain but I love the concept and her enough to where it can fly. Karol sucks. Kai and Maggy also suck. Lake was the best character so I’m surprised she was written off so quickly. I say she and Rosa Maria should have been switched. Hunter/Ally/Tess were really good though. Yul, while I thought he was funny, he was still way too mean lmao.
"For a fanmade series you would think they’d nail the writing and mess up on the visuals."
couldn't have said it better myself
i disagree for Riya! What made her become villanous was the merge when Lake started to get involved with her and Rosa’s friendships (with Rosa telling them she had found the totem only when they are a trio). this all makes Riya jealous, thus leading to being semi responsible for Lake being eliminated.
then, the snow episode happens and she gets those conversations with Rosa and seeing Aiden play dirty to get what he wants that she really starts putting her plan together for the next episodes. i think its a great buildup.
i think this was kind of forgotten because the episodes had major breaks between them so it was easy to forget these details, because if they released the season all at once like total drama did, it would have been a lot more coherent. great video, this is just my take!
i also feel like her motivations in the beginning with wanting fame and not being an extra was very foreshadowing even though it was kind of a slow burn.
Did you do the western noises
Yes xD I had a kazoo laying around so I thought I'd bully your ears a little
Both the subplot with the host and some the characters, notably the finalists, highlighted the seasons was going for a few themes, and those were growth and growing pains. With Riya, it was a case, with her backstory of getting stuck being the irrelevant extra, of someone going the villain route was the character having growth with her growing pains of derailing herself with her antics that cost her the win. Even if you think it could been handled better with the execution, I’m board how they went about her conceptually.
We should refer to Riya’s arc as “Dire Riya”
To be honest before the final 4 Riya had some of the best writing. I really routed for her all the way through since the beginning. Her becoming a villain wasn't a bad idea but it wasn't executed well, she could have been a really strong under the radar villain by being less mean spirited. She could have still exposed James and locked the boys out of the cabin but just make sure shes shown to be making logical decisions rather than being a villain. I guess the writers could just say she went "full villain" because she wants to be a Hollywood star which would actually make more sense. Her getting to the end just made James a predictable winners (he was quite predictable). Also Riya betraying Rosa is stupid as Rosa wasn't amazing at challenges anyway so she took out someone who she could win against at the end.
Riya reminds me too much of myself, thankfully I never tried to kill somebody
I missed it nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Yeah I think with better writing this could be really great! But I still thing this is a great show. While I know the amount of episodes may not always determine quality but I do think more episodes could have helped.
He has a two worst characters in adventure Yul
In all stars and riya in both seasons
This season was OK
8,5/10
IMO that's very generous lol, for me it comes in at 4/10, but fair enough if you like it
@@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse i mean its not made by the original total drama makers so at least give them props for that
@@halljeowldnnxn I'm aware, i mean I'm not giving something leeway just because it's fan made. If something is badly done I'll say it, disventure camp isn't bad it's just poorly thought out.
@@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse i get what you mean, but i think its a beginning. The next season is def gonna be great
@@halljeowldnnxnreboot is odd nation own cast.
S1 was more loved cause those chachters had better devolpment and backstories like Miriam, Gabby and etc plus romance was bettetr
You didn't even mention the fact that Riya's whole plan makes no sense, she literally got a multimillionaire sugar daddy and then went on to betray everyone and lose him for a CHANCE at a million.
I asked my friend why they liked Riya and they didn’t give me a genuine answer but then I asked them why they (for some reason) lost interest in Lake and they could give me a decent reason
They wanted fans to make chachters and plot for them and they choosed best what is stupid s1 reboot is better s1 itself had better villains and couples lile Gabby and Elli and better interactions
3:34 WHAT YO
And the riya Lmao
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James was such a great character. I could not STAND him at all at first. Arrogant and annoying social influencer, yugh, however, he had a lot of layers and a great story, where by the end of it all, I found myself rooting for him (after Hunter who I wanted to win and Connor who is my favorite of the cast but he was out early.) Absolutely incredible story and character writing to take a character who's my least favorite at the beginning (aside from Yul) and then ends up who I'm rooting for to win by the end. Phenomenal.
W Riya
I feel like this season was so good. I love the season more than most actual td seasons. I feel like every character has something enjoyable about them. I see so many people disliking the writing of the season but I thought it was actually pretty well written. There is issues like riya going cartoony evil at the end, having some characters not get much focus yet go far like ally and Rosa and cutting character with lots of potential and story value early when they were building up to a story such as lake, Karol and Tess. These issues were all there but didn’t take away from the show just were something they coulda included. I feel like ur issues with riya will be solved with the antagonist next season if they keep them the same as they were in the original as their story starts with the tone that character is supposed to set instead of a buildup. Overall I’d give the season a 9/10. I really like it.
The biggest flaw was how boring most of the episodes towards the end I skipped to the elimination on a lot of them I went back to watch them but they were still boring
I think maybe why people praised Riya because it was sadly some of the most interesting things on the show.
There’s only one thing I don’t agree with you on that saying that Riya what is the wrong person to give this evil side to because if you think about it, total drama has already demonstrated this in the way before like with Courtney you saw how at the beginning of the show she was this totally sweet, kind, fan, favorite to a sinister evil demon, who would show no remorse for anyone
Courtney was never the kind and sweet character like Riya at the beginning. Courtney had a backbone to her and wasn’t afraid to be direct and rude to people. This is further shown when her relationship starts to blossom with Duncan. She starts doing more bad things, and gets rightfully made when she is wrongfully eliminated. Even after she is eliminated we see her hunting Harold down. Then in season 2 we see her become a villain especially when her relationship with Duncan gets rocky, so Courtney had the basis to be villain, it wasn’t just a sinister evil demon. As for Riya, her basis was that of a protagonist that the audience can feel sympathetic for, which doesn’t match what we see at the end. I think with a little bit more foreshadowing and adding a more sinister flare to Riya’s character, then she would have been a good fit for it.
Ik weet bijna zeker dat je nl bent dus ja het seizoen was zeker goed mr niet zo goed als seizoen Island of World tour
Writing sucked because these 14 were made byfans plusthere stories s1 rebootis there own cast for reboot they have better writing
I liked Riya at first but honestly disliked how they rushed her arc at the end
No matter what people say, but I hate James and his love line with Aidan with all my heart, and for me James is a hero who did not deserve a relationship with Aidan, such a high place and most importantly - victory. So he is evil (to poison a person, and then got involved in a toxic relationship, where Aidan injured Karol because of him) and a duplicitous person (to call Ria, Yula and Karol villains when he did things worse, but did not receive punishment), who for all his actions did not get anything bad, but only good and therefore, just because James was in the finale, I was rooting for Ria (because even though she is also a villain, but the creators are not trying to make her good in the eyes of the audience).
this season was more than a mess, it was a landmine of terrible writing
The reason why the writing is what it is, bcz the creators wanted to create shocking eliminations instead of good-wirtten one. Riya before episode 12 was the only character that kept me invested in that show, but ofc they had to ruin it and make James a hero for no reason. Pass
And people give it leeway because "iTs a FaN pRoJeCt" how do they expect to improve if everybody is praising it's flaws.
Plus, the show was clearly not planned before going into development. They didn't plan an order beforehand, they just went with the flow each ep.
@@pandora2307 idk why people are giving it so much hate it’s annoying if you don’t like it that’s fine but hate doesn’t do anything so just leave the video u don’t need to comment on every single video about it
@@PartiallyBlue Please educate yourself on the difference between hate and opinion/critique, thank you 🙏
BTW I was Odd Nations Patron at some point, so thats why Im so critical about it.
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Unpopular opinion but total drama island 2023 is 100000000 x better then disventure camp