Kudos to the Aussies for all their cycle ways. I spent a week in Perth, near the CBD. I could ride out to the hills mainly on pathways. On the edge of town, the pathways were overgrown and broken, but traffic was courteous. I could get 160km a day and be on the paths all the way across town. No stopping at signals and other nuisances.
I did this trip yesterday August 28. It was early afternoon so well outside rush hour. The journey was ADELAIDE to PORT DOCK and return. In both directions the train was reasonably well patronised. A good mix of locals, tourists and school kids. I think this new little branch is going to be a great addition to the network, despite what the negative voices here and elsewhere are saying.
It really does seem like an oversight to not have some kind of better shelter nearby the station. We're in a state where it reaches 45 degrees Celsius in the summer... and 2 in the winter. We get wind, rain, hail, and obviously blistering sunshine... And yet outside Adelaide itself, I think Gawler is the only station anywhere on the network with an actual building you can go inside to sit and wait, grab a drink, etc. The government REALLY needs to step up as far as station design. They could also do with a roof over the nearby carpark, possibly covered in solar panels too to power EV charging places... Having said all that, I am VERY keen on that touch screen interchange information panel! Hope we see more of them around the place soon
Mawson Lakes also has a small waiting room. While it’s air conditioned, the air conditioning hasn’t been maintained so it’s essentially a sauna in summer.
Would be more keen on an expanded tramway network based on Weatherill's "AdeLINK" concept in 2018... which the liberal government canned first chance they got
Oh yes. 2 hours to mt Barker - its awesome. Or 3 to Aldinga. The thingle place in Adelaide worth to consider new train line is north - Virginia, Riverlea, all other big developments in Playford with use of existing goods standard line, straight and plain allowing fast transit at least to Salisbury.
@@antontsau it’s only 50 minutes to Seaford… less if you get an express service. Aldinga would be about an hour and five, that’s less than current Gawler Central services. For Mount Barker we’d be better off introducing a separate regional rail service similar to Victoria’s V/Line, that stops at Goodwood, Blackwood, Belair, and then goes on to Crafers and Stirling and Mt Barker. With so few stops it’d only be about an hour to Mt Barker which is perfectly reasonable
Thought the departure screens would show the time in 24 hr format or put AM or PM after the time . Thought at first it looked pretty busy for 2.02 , assumed it was 24hr time .
I can't see the point of reinstalling the line. They tore it down 30 years ago when they moved the shopping precinct on to commercial road and out of Saint Vincent Street. Moving the shops was the death knell for the Port
Whilst grateful that reintroduction of services has occurred, it remains ridiculous that there remains a mix of diesel and electric lines on the network.
50 mil plus wasted on a line to abandoned buildings. Would of been better invested in pushing trains all the way down to aldinga, or north from gawler to Port Pirie. Have proper trains like NSW does - you can go from sudney, to newcastle, lithgow or kiama on a regular public train.
I use 4 stations Ascot Park absolutely no protection against weather unless you stay in the tunnel, Edwardstown absolutely hopeless, Woodlands Park not as bad as the other two but after the upgrade there was less protection from weather even though the roof area remained the same, during the upgrade many of the side walls disappeared
They have totally screwed up the schedules on the Grange line which is well patrionised with TOD developments like Woodville West to get this Port dock line some prime alotments despite it being a line to a spot where no one lives or wants to go to. Thanks Adelaide Metro.
While I agree, we haven't lost any services on the Grange line, but the timetable alignment has pushed us forward 15 mins and my commute is now at times that aren't really ideal. Mind you, Port Dock has ended up with 30 min service intervals 7 days and nights per week. Grange has never received that!
@@BushTerrors exactly what I was getting at. No loss of service but the timetable change has inconvenience a bunch of residents who bought in a TOD, actually use public transport all to give prime service slots to a extension no one lives at. My wife is now talking about buying a second car and moving away from the train service.
8:00 the Bluebird railcars were privately owned and intended for a potential resumption of the Barossa Wine Train services until Knoll cut the Barossa line with a stupid roundabout excuse. It was recently sold off to Aurizon to become crew cars but honestly it really feels like a betrayal of history as it should’ve been donated or sold to Steamranger as a full set
I thought they were the Barossa Wine Train set train set that were privately owned and got sold. The museum had another Bluebird railcar that got a few runs on the track in recent years. I could be wrong but that railcar I think is still at the museum.
Be thankful that you actually have a leader in power in Adelaide that reversed the decision to privatize the public transport network in Adelaide we fought for it and in the end it went in everyone's favor hey at least you have a public transport system that's run by the government over here in Victoria our public transports fully privatised and it's a stupid mistake privatization doesn't help anyone
@gman83090 It remains to be seen what SA will do. If they are unwilling to electrify the whole network and all the improvements amount to just refurbishing old trains from the 1980's and a 1km extension, then not privatizing is just an empty gesture.
Absolutely weird project. Cheap, as right of way still existed there, but useless. No traffic generators there. No living houses, no big commerce, nothing. 2 storey terraces instead of port sheds, police, half-abandoned offices... what is the proposed patronage? 500 per day? Ooops. Its not for train.
Many governments have tried to turn port Adelaide into some kind of trendy hipster paradise like Bowden. The essential nature of Port Adelaide has remained unchanged though. Look at the abandoned office block, I can’t see it changing soon.
@@Lobo-ih3bh Bowden is city fringe, port is rotten industry area far away from everything. No one wants to live there until it is gentrified, no one wants to gentrify it until herd of hamsters moved in. Dockside developments stalled there as long as I know, since 2010 they finished literally several tens of apartments.
@@antontsauThanks, I know where Bowden is. Port Adelaide is 20 mins from CBD so it not far away from everything but it's still feral. They had pictures on one of the wharf developments of people paddle boarding on the Port river. Ridiculous! What local has ever done that? Waterfront lifestyle my arse.
@@Lobo-ih3bh 20 min is FAR. It means instead of pushbike or monowheel you have to catch train or bus (car is not considered as it is hipster hamster), and to get pumpkin latte turns into half-day travel. Unreal. It must be twice cheaper than Bowden in this case which is not Paddling is a bit further, closer to westlakes
Kudos to the Aussies for all their cycle ways. I spent a week in Perth, near the CBD. I could ride out to the hills mainly on pathways. On the edge of town, the pathways were overgrown and broken, but traffic was courteous. I could get 160km a day and be on the paths all the way across town. No stopping at signals and other nuisances.
Brilliant about time
Straight to the Railway museum tomorrow!
I did this trip yesterday August 28. It was early afternoon so well outside rush hour. The journey was ADELAIDE to PORT DOCK and return. In both directions the train was reasonably well patronised. A good mix of locals, tourists and school kids. I think this new little branch is going to be a great addition to the network, despite what the negative voices here and elsewhere are saying.
It really does seem like an oversight to not have some kind of better shelter nearby the station. We're in a state where it reaches 45 degrees Celsius in the summer... and 2 in the winter. We get wind, rain, hail, and obviously blistering sunshine... And yet outside Adelaide itself, I think Gawler is the only station anywhere on the network with an actual building you can go inside to sit and wait, grab a drink, etc. The government REALLY needs to step up as far as station design. They could also do with a roof over the nearby carpark, possibly covered in solar panels too to power EV charging places...
Having said all that, I am VERY keen on that touch screen interchange information panel! Hope we see more of them around the place soon
Mawson Lakes also has a small waiting room. While it’s air conditioned, the air conditioning hasn’t been maintained so it’s essentially a sauna in summer.
@@Brucetiki1 yea it does that umm called lounge room where you sit in. Not the lounge room in your house but at Mawson lakes
Great, now reintroduce services to Mount Barker, Roseworthy, Tanunda and Aldinga 🙂😉🙃
One can dream, right!
they were thinking of going as far back as freeling or kapunda
Would be more keen on an expanded tramway network based on Weatherill's "AdeLINK" concept in 2018... which the liberal government canned first chance they got
Oh yes. 2 hours to mt Barker - its awesome. Or 3 to Aldinga.
The thingle place in Adelaide worth to consider new train line is north - Virginia, Riverlea, all other big developments in Playford with use of existing goods standard line, straight and plain allowing fast transit at least to Salisbury.
@@antontsau it’s only 50 minutes to Seaford… less if you get an express service. Aldinga would be about an hour and five, that’s less than current Gawler Central services.
For Mount Barker we’d be better off introducing a separate regional rail service similar to Victoria’s V/Line, that stops at Goodwood, Blackwood, Belair, and then goes on to Crafers and Stirling and Mt Barker. With so few stops it’d only be about an hour to Mt Barker which is perfectly reasonable
We need that new voice on every train line as it reminds me of the trams in Melbourne
Thought the departure screens would show the time in 24 hr format or put AM or PM after the time . Thought at first it looked pretty busy for 2.02 , assumed it was 24hr time .
I think I was there when the alarm was going
Caught the train to Port Dock yesterday myself. Maybe it will encourage the Market back to the Dock
again, with easier walk, cheers.
I can't see the point of reinstalling the line. They tore it down 30 years ago when they moved the shopping precinct on to commercial road and out of Saint Vincent Street. Moving the shops was the death knell for the Port
Whilst grateful that reintroduction of services has occurred, it remains ridiculous that there remains a mix of diesel and electric lines on the network.
I’d love if they added the touch screen to the Gawler (Central) line.
I was on the morning train to Port Dock
50 mil plus wasted on a line to abandoned buildings. Would of been better invested in pushing trains all the way down to aldinga, or north from gawler to Port Pirie. Have proper trains like NSW does - you can go from sudney, to newcastle, lithgow or kiama on a regular public train.
2:51 welcome to melbourne?😂🤪
I use 4 stations Ascot Park absolutely no protection against weather unless you stay in the tunnel, Edwardstown absolutely hopeless, Woodlands Park not as bad as the other two but after the upgrade there was less protection from weather even though the roof area remained the same, during the upgrade many of the side walls disappeared
The train must have a docking port 😅
They have totally screwed up the schedules on the Grange line which is well patrionised with TOD developments like Woodville West to get this Port dock line some prime alotments despite it being a line to a spot where no one lives or wants to go to. Thanks Adelaide Metro.
While I agree, we haven't lost any services on the Grange line, but the timetable alignment has pushed us forward 15 mins and my commute is now at times that aren't really ideal.
Mind you, Port Dock has ended up with 30 min service intervals 7 days and nights per week. Grange has never received that!
@@BushTerrors exactly what I was getting at. No loss of service but the timetable change has inconvenience a bunch of residents who bought in a TOD, actually use public transport all to give prime service slots to a extension no one lives at.
My wife is now talking about buying a second car and moving away from the train service.
I'm was told that not many people got the first passenger train in the morning 7am service unlike the Flinders First service
shame it's only a single platform for regular trains.
8:00 the Bluebird railcars were privately owned and intended for a potential resumption of the Barossa Wine Train services until Knoll cut the Barossa line with a stupid roundabout excuse. It was recently sold off to Aurizon to become crew cars but honestly it really feels like a betrayal of history as it should’ve been donated or sold to Steamranger as a full set
I thought they were the Barossa Wine Train set train set that were privately owned and got sold. The museum had another Bluebird railcar that got a few runs on the track in recent years.
I could be wrong but that railcar I think is still at the museum.
Adelaide needs electric trains and lines across the network.
They do for Seaford, Flinders, Gawler-Gawler central.
Be thankful that you actually have a leader in power in Adelaide that reversed the decision to privatize the public transport network in Adelaide we fought for it and in the end it went in everyone's favor hey at least you have a public transport system that's run by the government over here in Victoria our public transports fully privatised and it's a stupid mistake privatization doesn't help anyone
@gman83090 It remains to be seen what SA will do. If they are unwilling to electrify the whole network and all the improvements amount to just refurbishing old trains from the 1980's and a 1km extension, then not privatizing is just an empty gesture.
Absolutely weird project. Cheap, as right of way still existed there, but useless. No traffic generators there. No living houses, no big commerce, nothing. 2 storey terraces instead of port sheds, police, half-abandoned offices... what is the proposed patronage? 500 per day? Ooops. Its not for train.
Many governments have tried to turn port Adelaide into some kind of trendy hipster paradise like Bowden. The essential nature of Port Adelaide has remained unchanged though. Look at the abandoned office block, I can’t see it changing soon.
@@Lobo-ih3bh Bowden is city fringe, port is rotten industry area far away from everything. No one wants to live there until it is gentrified, no one wants to gentrify it until herd of hamsters moved in. Dockside developments stalled there as long as I know, since 2010 they finished literally several tens of apartments.
@@antontsauThanks, I know where Bowden is. Port Adelaide is 20 mins from CBD so it not far away from everything but it's still feral. They had pictures on one of the wharf developments of people paddle boarding on the Port river. Ridiculous! What local has ever done that? Waterfront lifestyle my arse.
@@Lobo-ih3bh 20 min is FAR. It means instead of pushbike or monowheel you have to catch train or bus (car is not considered as it is hipster hamster), and to get pumpkin latte turns into half-day travel. Unreal. It must be twice cheaper than Bowden in this case which is not
Paddling is a bit further, closer to westlakes
The police station and courthouse is right next to the station and the railway hotel oh and the rail museum to
would of been cooler if they electrifi it