Michael Jordan Got WHOOPED by Larry Bird *INTENSE ARGUMENT*
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
- In this segment we discuss Michael Jordan's record against Larry Bird and LeBron James record against Nikola Jokic.
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Ticket is a Hall of Fame goalpost mover
He got that badge on HOF 😂
If you a Lebron glazer you have ZERO room to talk. 😂😂😂 LAKERS IN 6! 🤡😎💪😂🤣
@@psychedelicvault6951Jordan lost 13 in a row something Kobe and LeBron never did
Nah..he's rite
Yes he is
Ticket said on his channel Jordan could take 4 players from his chat and they not gone lose 13 straight 😂😂 and his people was buying into that blasphemy
Lmao 🤣😂 but they like to call lebron fans bronsexuals and all those derogatory names, these dudes are the perfect example of sexuals and romanticizers of a player that not even playing.
Lmao 🤣😂 but they like to call lebron fans bronsexuals and all those derogatory names, these dudes are the perfect example of fanboys gone wild. 💀😆🤣
Bingo he keep on the moving the goal post
ticket is hilarious man 😭😭
kinda like bron stans saying he can play AND defend all 5 positions lmao
The bald manace is such a hilarious nickname for Michael Jordan 😂
Lebron pipe riders act like LeBald has hair like Roman Reigns. 😂😂😂
I'm weak @@psychedelicvault6951
@@psychedelicvault6951all 3 overrated AF and were handout kweens favored by higher ups. CMM
First it was “Jordan would never lose that many straight games, his competitive nature wouldn’t allow it” then we find out he loss 13 straight and then it switched to “he was outmatched”. I don’t blame Jordan for losing but it’s funny how people move the goalpost for players they like more lol. Let’s just say 1 player isn’t solely responsible for wins and loses.
When you go by their logic they move the goal post like ticket does 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Jordan alone makes playoffs durning those times by being 1 man team and pushes the team of 5 hall of famers and an alltime great player into the overtime, drops 63 points on Larry... so much so that Larry said "i played against a god desguised as Michael Jordan".
Lebron James gets destroyed 11x in a row by having more star power then Jokic.... Alone MJ pushes 5 hall of famers into overtime drops 63... Lebron with AD gets beat 11x by 1 star player
@@zvonkosolin8627 this has nothing to do with that or who’s greater, ticket said something that wasn’t true and then moved the goal post, that’s all there is to it lol.
@@wilvictor they didn’t, he made a claim and was wrong first lol and then changed the argument
@@tydavis737 Ticket told you what i wrote you... Rookie MJ alone vs one of the best teams in history of NBA takes them to overtime, Lebron with another superstar gets demolished by 1 superstar... that is what ticket told you. Even at 40 years old you add a AD caliber player to MJ he aint losing 11x in a row to anyone... MJ at 40 had 97 points in 2 games back to back on 1 leg, had medical staff come that last season to the locker room before the game to drain fluid from his knee so he can go out and play. He dropped 43 at the age of 40 on a N.J. Nets who went to the final that year....
How does Ticket breathe when Jordan is so far down his throat
Gots to be hard
Ticket always move the goal post for Kobe and Jordan clearly biased
Facts mj fanboys said that he was the most unstoppable superstar ever, they say he don't need all that help like lebron, yet he faced Larry bird 13 straight times for a period of time and he couldn't even get a game...smh they're straight 🤡's. 🤣🤣
That's what they fans do they try to argue facts of what happened they can't handle it when you bring them facts they fight against it I'm never gonna argue against something that's a fact that actually happened it's in the NBA books 🤦🏽🤨
@@Ghost-rb6cwfrfr 🤦🏽
@@Ghost-rb6cw Really? When did Jordan and Bird play each other one on one 13 straight times?
Kobe ain’t got shit to do with this vid
Bunch of people in the comments moving the goalposts😂 "his team wasnt good" "he didnt have help"
Who was on his team at that time.. anybody good?? please give avg of he players be had on team please
@@trevorrobinson8652why does that matter YALL said Mikes drive wouldn’t allow nobody to beat him 13 in a row and y’all found out y’all lied
This is like knocking wemby for getting whooped by the nuggets in the playoffs next season. Its actually worse than that cause the celtics had a 5 all star lineup
@@trevorrobinson8652 lol now all of a sudden y'all bawling that mj didn't had enough help? lmao 😂 🤣 the irony....aren't y'all the ones that said mj can do more with less and he don't need that much help like lebron???
@@DiorInEveryStore all stars is not the only thing that makes a team great, it's which team is more complete team, you guys don't even know how to talk basketball but just spread goofy narratives. 👉🤡
Tickets comeback is that's not true even though they're looking at the facts😂😂
Dude's embarrassing AF. His Gianni's vs 🃏 logic was hilarious too. Never mentioned GA leastern conf
Ticket tv elite goal post mover
I got MJ as the GOAt but Kobe and MJ superfans ..they will call out Lebron and slander him for it..somebody would give them facts and get exposed and will immediately move the goal post and bring up Mamba mentality or Killer Instinct 😂😂😂
The way you’re talking sounds like you don’t have MJ as your GOAT but okay. Kobe only lost to the Spurs 5 straight games and he wasn’t even playing in 2-3 of those games.
@@vishtakesevery mj fans gotta admire mj like a god like you and ticket?
@@vishtakes you are one of the super fans he’s referring to here. I mean, just look at your profile picture
@@StandardsFC Kobe got me into the game of basketball when I was 5 and MJ was one of the most inspirational players in NBA history. What do you want me to have as a profile picture a letter R or a letter U? It’s my account I can do whatever I want 😂
@vishtakes MJ is my GOAT yall problem is whenever somebody give Lebron a compliment or not slandering him that must mean we think the greatest or something its insane thinking lol
Doesnt matter if mike didnt have a top player i thought his drive ane competive personality wouldn't allow that
Thank You
@boonebeasley9622 Stop being stupid . Everybody needs help . MJ lost when he had no help Lebron has lost a lot when he had a lot of help so which is worse?
@@christiansoldier77Jordan lost with a lot of help too
@@christiansoldier77 What happened to Jordan drive and will is the point sir nobody says u don't need help it's u Jordan fans that say he would never then when it gets exposed then comes the excuses
Drive & competitive nature are just narratives bro , if he didn’t have the roster to win he wouldn’t have , especially 39 year old Jordan ..
Ticket loves bringing up irrelevant points
This is the reason why Swifer and Marz is necessary on this show especially when Ticket is on the show dude can never admit when he is wrong.
What's funny is when we talk about MJ going 6-0 in the Finals, they say it's a team game. But when MJ was going up
the Boston Celtics, they say Bird beat MJ. They personalize it.
Right!
That’s hypocritical and contradictory oldheads for ya
Even a die hard Jordan fan can’t say bird didn’t own him. It’s nasty work and has zero context whatsoever but 🤷🏾♂️😂
Bird didn't own Jordan...the Celtics owned the Bulls
@@darnellroberts8363 100% but yu know exactly how most sport fans are. Hence why I said it’s nasty work and have zero context
@@DerQuanDoucett The majority of the time fans are more concerned with talking points that's easy to identify...what's not easy for the fan is to recognize how the game was actually played. Jordan was playing against a well oiled machine with rusty tools with one new hammer in the tool box with the number 23 engraved on it.
@@darnellroberts8363 I’m agreeing with yu, I’m just saying that’s how ppl view it 🤷🏾♂️
@@DerQuanDoucett I'm with you fam 💯
Why is this controversial lmao it's true. Dude kept getting his ass kicked by Bird
I mean to be fair, the bulls were ass juice compared to Boston 😂😂. That’s like when people shit on bron for losing to the spurs in 07.
@@TheIcemanthomasexactly that’s the point, bron haters will hate on bron for losing in ‘07, ‘17 and ‘18 but will make excuses for mj
@@TheIcemanthomasno that’s not similar at all lebron production and numbers are why he gets sh8t on in 07 if he was productive and efficient it wouldn’t be a question.
@@TheIcemanthomas I agree, but we're not fair to Bron, so I can't be fair to Jordan lol
@@jctslice ticket just the worse guy to have on your team. He lost because he never knew mj lost to bird 13 times in a row. Obviously mj loosing to Boston by himself is not as bad as lebron losing to Denver with ad.
LeBron has AD Jordan never lost all those games in a row after he got Pippen
lebron is 39 Mj ain do shi at 39
@@treywhoa Lebum missed the playoffs at 34, what was Jordan doing at 34? You don't wanna play that game. 😎😂😂😂 Lebum lost 3 finals games in a row THREE DIFFERENT TIMES (2 times with 2 other all stars). How many finals games did Mike lose in a row? 😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@psychedelicvault6951 bro you are speaking off emotions.. notice Lebron fans call Jordan by his name but you Jordan fans have to call names lol LEthis LEthat.. you Jordan fans act like emotional little girls
They don't have an arvument like Ticket doesnt @@deadflies4265
@@psychedelicvault6951yeah he was injured … lol … 😂 Mike had the team to win, the best roster in the league. Yall run to who Lebron had when Jordan never faced a team or comp that had more than two 20 point scorers let alone 3 😂😂😂
This conversation is a prime example of why we need to stop having this silly debate. There’s not ONE great in any sport whose legacy you can’t poke a hole in. Just appreciate greatness while you watching it
This is why some of us hate MJ and LBJ. They're the same coin of excuses and privilege
Ticket such a mj glazer
A humongous one
Boy said rookie bron vs kd warriors wouldn’t be fair. Shi ian call it fair when he was in Cleveland in 2017 😂
Mark is the stat guy. If not sorry. Bird still owned MJ in the 92 or 93 regular season.MJ in with Scotty his prime. The Celtics and Bird all broken up. The Celtics I think they lost to the Pistons. Then the Pistons beat MJ. Ny years can be off. Great debate
IVE HAD IT WITH THIS DUDE
This dude said MJ at 39 was less skilled than Bron at 39 🤦🏾♂️Skill and Injuries are two different things it was MJ’s skill that kept him playing I mean we talking about a guy that sipped alcohol and smoked cigars everyday and still was great but some people shouldn’t talk Basketball skill and injuries are different 😂😂
Well where’s you podcast or appearances on PC since you know so much?
It’s team Sport. Celtics beat the Bulls. Nuggets beat the Lakers. Stop doing this player for player nonsense in a team sport. Celtics at that time were better than Bulls. Nuggets are better than the Lakers now.
Bird didnt beat Jordan . The Celtics beat the Bulls
Agreed but they are just giving him the same energy because he say Lebron lost to the Nuggets 11 straight times so they gave it back to him
@@robmoore6817 Yeah because Lebron has AD
@@christiansoldier77 Lebron is 39, what was Jordan doing at age 39? Missing the playoffs lmao. Jordan was near the prime age for basketball being around 23-24 and was getting swept so it’s just as bad. Bron around that age never got swept or loss to a team that many times in a row.
@@yrnquin1560LeBron is on peds so he isn't a normal 39 year old so he is still close to his prime with a good team around him so he should be dominant but he gets dominated. Jordan was a young guy barely two years in the league on a bad team vs the greatest team of All time with 5 hofers . It's not even close to the same thing . If Jordan had a team Iike LeBron has now even at 40 he wouldnt lose like LeBron loses
@@christiansoldier77Jordan at 39 isn’t doing anything with this lakers team like LeBron is at 39. I doubt they even make the playoffs with Jordan. There has yet to be any proof that he’s on PEDs
Is anyone tired of Chilltown yelling repeatedly and then Ron laughing while everyone cuts each other off instead of controlling the show?
Unlike Jordan lebron has actually beat jokic for a championship
Unlike LeBron MJ didn't need a playin to get in the playoffs
@KobetheGOAT-le8im bro wtf are u talking about what does that have to do with the subject at hand 😂 the play in is only a few years old calm.down
Baby jokic
@@loadedbakedpotato6233and jokic beat old man lebron, so whats your point
@@loadedbakedpotato6233 y’all say baby jokic but forget he won mvp in 2021. 2020 nugget was already a team that can compete for a championship.
Jordan lost 3-0 to the Celtics in 1987. Yes, his team was out matched. However, a few things to note:
When you, MJ, take 34 more shots than the next guy on both teams (Oakley took 50), is it really the rest of the team’s fault?
When you, MJ, shoot 9-30 in the close out game is it the rest of the team’s fault?
Is Charles Oakley averaging 20 & 15 not enough? Is that not comparable to AD putting up 28 & 15 versus Denver? (98 ppg vs. 106 ppg). AD provided minimal more help?
Wasn’t MJ 24 and LBJ was 39?
LeBron would have the Avengers defending him. If he lost 13 in a row to the warriors without his #2. While being in his second year in the league.
nah the goat averaged 41, 6 and 6 against Larry legend…as a 22 YEAR OLD. MJ held his own and the rest is history ingrained in ignorant LeBalco fan’s brains
Funny how you probably don’t keep this same energy for LeBron when he puts up elite performances against teams he lost to
Swipa is killing me😭😭😭
damn, Ticket was in shambles during this segment
Again Ticket Proven Out To Be Stupid Again 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So the “Final boss “ and his minions claim that he’s a basketball historian and says the chat don’t know basketball correct ? Same dude who didn’t know
-KG didn’t win dpoy in minny
-KD going to gsw was not a trade
- Saying mario Ellie was an important piece in the finals run but he played less than 15 mins in the first final
-MJ losing 13 straight to the Celtics
Players dont have losing streaks goofy
@@NoNameWillBeGiven778so Lebron doesn’t have a losing streak either. Either way ticket was wrong
@@5stariley dont care goofy
Bird didn’t own MJ the Celtics owned the bulls which is totally different statement.
Istg Jordan fans act like Jordan never had no faults and Marz read them off not only the losses but the inefficiency he shot during those games and they still try to move the goalpost like dawg it’s okay everyone including Jordan had a bad game
Yawn trolll
People played a clip showing Lebron said "its just basketball" vs Kobe saying "he still think his team can win" down 0-3 to make Lebron look weak ...but ignore the game right after Lebron dropped 30..14 in the 4th qtr ..and the team won ..Kobe was 32 or 33 droped 17pts on 18 shots and team got blew out by 36..but "Mamba Mentality" so it didnt matter..this not me slandering Kobe just showing the bias ...Kobe fans have to team up and attach themselves with MJ fans to feel better about Kobe spot in nba history ..they are all great players but KEEP THE SAMW ENERGY for all 3 of them
Ticket wearing them sunglasses to hide his tears
Nah this was a spin cycle plus rinse! Y’all did Ticket dirty af coz he couldn’t bite bullets that won’t hurt MJ’s legacy anyway 😂
So what if he did? What's the point? He didn't run when the going was tough and that guy, Larry Bird knew by calling him "God disguised as Michael Jordan " that it was just a matter of time. Isaiah and the Pistons went through the same right of passage. Nobody except the Lakers could handle that Boston crew.
Stat Muse
Larry Bird was 17-11 versus Michael Jordan in his career.
The Boston Celtics from the year of 85 - 88 season was 99 - 4 at home was there Win- Lose record !! Think about that!! Y’all not saying nothing - 😮Larry Bird in His prime won 3 MVPs in a row !! He was Jovic before we knew who Jovic was !! Larry had better teams, coaching and was also a great player !!
Commentators were calling Jordan his last season floor jordan on live television lmao
What was the overarching point??? These guys need a moderator, who can at least provide proper context to these discussions.
In the 90’s, the Celtics didn’t get there to play the Bulls. Who cares if the Celtics beat the Bulls in the 80’s. Everyone who KNOWS NBA history knows his team was trash and comes up. Stop.
Excuses
This like knocking wemby for getting whooped by the Nuggets in the playoffs next season
It’s over due that somebody doesn’t let ticket say whatever the fuck tired of that bs
when we talk about MJ career the early days we dont count them because he had no one (but we count the individual stats)
when we talk about his last years in washington we dont count them because he passed his prime
But with LBJ we count everything since day one till this days (good teammates or not, prime or not)
i dont like those what if (things are what they are 11-0 its 11-0, 13-0 its 13-0)
Bird’s team spanked MJ when MJ didn’t have any help. No Allstar caliber teammate at all! This isn’t comparable to Lebron losing 11 straight games playing with AD and the talent he was playing with to a team with 1 Allstar!
but y are we holding this 40 year old man to goat standards this is crazy 😂
Hakeem had no help in the 1986 finals and he didn't get swepted like Jordan lol, all you guys have is a bunch of excuses lol. 😂
LeBron at 40 compares to prime Mike that's tells u everything you need to know
@@majihnnnyawn Bron stan
@@Ghost-rb6cwRalph Sampson. Trolll
Damn he cooked Ticket!!!
Ppl still listening to Ticket is crazy lmao
Who was better Celtics of the 80s or nuggets of today? Who has the dynasty??
It was 11 times and not 11 straight
Yea it was
It was 13 straight times bro, every year he was losing.
13 straight times bro, what don’t u get 😂it it was 1 season leading into another regular season and playoffs
Ticket stub caught frauding again! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Jordan was young and had no help + Boston had a superteam
Excuses, Yall don’t use that excuse for Lebron in 07 , 2015, 2017,2018
LeBron had better teams than Jordan during those years
Don’t matter he suppose to be the goat right?
Thank You OX
Chill be pissing me off with this ngl swipa is right. He be enabling dude. Cmon unc grandpa
Ticket & chill is necessary bruh 🔥 classic Shannon & Stephen a vibes 💯
I dont count Brom losing in 2007 or anytime he wasn't playing with enough help to win. That why i dont consider Jordan losing to the Celtics in his first 2 3 years either he was same as Bron No Help! I only compare the two of when the both had help and the performances with the adequate support to win. And facts are that Bron has lost more in Finals and even the Olympics with allstar players. Jordan didn't lose once Pippen became an allstar in 90. Well they lost to the Pistons that year in the ECF in game 7. But other than that. In a full season Jordan and at least one allstar has won more than lost. Bron lost in 2012 and 2015 with help in Miami. And also in the Olympics. So those are my determining factors when debating the two.
When ticket talks, you can hear m.J's and kobi's bead sack in his at the back of his throat ⏸️
Weird thought you have
That Celtics had 5 hall of famers including iconic Larry Bird that's 6 lol
Who are other 5?
@@mannymatencio1279 Google it and stop trolling boy
But when lebron loose to the warriors with kd that won 73-9 before he got there in 2018 y’all say he choke that another loss on his record I just want to know do you count that I am not even a bron fan the same in 2008 and 2010 when he lost to 4 hall of fame in the truth kg ray allen kg and Rondo with perkin and toney and more that had got to great defender on there roster one through 10 with a defensive specialist coach in Tom thidoue do you count that I am making sure that y’all stay consistent
@@akwesirobinson1710 nobody blames lebron for losing to kd warriors lol. Dallas worse loss ever and maybe spurs in 2014.
@@thialhoinj1971they only speak on LBJs losses, not his teammates vs the opposition. With other guys, they'll try to give context
So now ticket can acknowledge a guy being the only player on his team who can create offense. But when it’s LeBron, it doesn’t matter?
But when Bron was in 2018 Finals with George Hill and JR against nevermind....
So just imagine Jordan in the 80s against the Celtics brudda
Lebron wasnt in his 2nd and 3rd yr and thats the finals, not the first round smooth brain
Ticket is full of shit and he just expose himself as lebron hater again lebron james taking the cavaliers to face the san antonio spurs his very first finals is the equivalent of rookie lebron facing the kd warriors.
Yawn stan
Ticket back with the crew? Thats good
I hate these player vs player record arguments . It’s a team game people .
Tf is a “love for the game clause” 💀?!
There is no world where the bulls would be the Celtics the Celtics had a miles better team
MJ no matter the age if he has the same as Lebron, he would always be more skilled than Lebron… What a delusional fanboy
Where did the lakers and lebron come from
Why is ticket back on the show smh
I guess the Celtics didn’t have at least 5 hofers on their team in the 80s🤦🏾♂️
Mike and some crackheads vs Larry bird and one of the greatest teams ever built 🤷♂️
Ticket is embarrassing … so Jordan didnt have Scottie pippin … how about when Lebron went against 3 HOFs his first finals run and when he loss to GS with no Love and kyrie???
If Jordan never has Pippen he would be ringless.
Keep telling yourself that trolll
@@NoNameWillBeGiven778 Its just a response for the mentlaly challenged "LeBron needed Wade, Irving, Ad to win" cooldown fangirl
@@Edd-zd5wb well i guess you are then Bron stan
@@NoNameWillBeGiven778 or maybe a logical non mentally ill LeBron hater?
@@Edd-zd5wb you are ill indeed
Ticket getting upset bc he was getting interrupted is crazy
No telling if jokic will be top 25 at all whatsoever. Stop forcing a reality that is not earned yet just to fit a narrative and a bias
He def isn’t that now nor is he top 75 now but if you don’t know how dominant Mikan petit Connie twyman Zelmo Bellamy etc… would be today then there’s already a disconnect and misunderstanding of the skill level and level of luxuries and lack of degree of difficulty players today play at and learn at.
A prime AD isn’t nearly enough for anything to be guaranteed especially a last year wizards Mike who takes away shots from teammates cuz he has never been able to dominate a season without needing to score in massive bunches vs an elgin wilt or bill whom can dominate seasons without scoring in massive bunches and peak scoring of an individual has never won the most chips. Even Mike won while scoring significantly less than his peak scoring in 80s so dropping 50 as a wizard past his prime not making the playoffs is not a flex. And the man made of glass AD is not guaranteeing wizards jordan losing 11 straight games in a row whatsoever especially as a guy who is still unwilling to not be score first when past his prime and unable to rebound like elgin wilt or Russell or defend like elgin wilt or Russell or even west when past his prime and being smarter about taking up so many shots from the team. Stick to reality and consistent logic
Now for bird vs jordan
Bird is the reason for the dynasty just like bill is the reason for the dynasty. Bird took bad teams like how jordan had in the 80s and turned them into a dynasty where as jordan needed to be given another all time great player first.
Bird took the same type of Weak 30ish win team in his rookie season as MJ had in MJ rookie season to the finals during the harder part of the 80s and actually won throughout the 80s decade while MJ only won as the league got massively easier and MJ teams got massively better relative to the comp especially in the 90s
Bird is the better leader, better passer, better rebounder, more versatile defender, and more versatile scorer. He’s a better passer and rebounder than jordan is a better defender and scorer. And he outclasses Mike in leadership. Simple as that
Let’s stop making excuses for Mike. He willed a team to the playoffs back from injury playing 18 games while in his prime.
Wilt past his prime post knee surgery after a major career threatening injury willed his team to the finals after just playing 12 games in the season. The excuses must stop. Just admit when u have biases. It’s 2024 time we wake up from the red pill blue pill matrix of jordan and Lebron both of whom clearly aren’t the goat objectively and are great players that can get their flowers without the ludicrous bias wank
Tic tac won’t give dudes 3 words before he cuts them off. Smh
Of course everything is better with context but wasn’t ticket killing bron for losing FOUR games in a row in the finals ?
The Celtics have like five or six Hall of Famers on that team
And? So did the KD warriors
@deadflies4265 since you want to go that route did MJ have a Kyrie or Love or something similar to what LeBron had in his Cleveland days?
@@johnnymyers20love? Really? Even if Jordan did, they still lose to the Celtics
@@johnnymyers20yall got excuses for mj but when bron lost to the kd warriors and the spurs those excuses are out the window 🤣
@battousaithekingslayer9913 LeBron had other Allstars on those teams Wade, Bosh Kyrie, Love. MJ didn't, so there's no excuses for Bron, especially when he hand-picked his teammates too
During that losing streak who did bird say Jordan was disguised as ?
Who gives af 😂😂 what's it have to do with anything. Here we go moving the goal post again
Nah God would’ve won a game🤣 God won’t get swept like that
Doesn’t matter he lost lol during Bron losing to Denver Murray called him his idol wtf that mean lol
Still got beat down 🤷🏽♂️
damn so God a loser now?
Is that THE DREAM ??
😂😂😂
They are trying to compare a 2nd and 3rd year player with 0 hall of famers to a veteran with 4 rings who play with a top 75 player in his prime. Of course, a young superstar was going to lose to an all-time legendary team. 😂😹 🙏🏾
At 39 Jordan would lose to them that much. Ticket is not considering how tired Mike would be if he had to play a 7 game series chasing Murray and these guys around at age 39
Nope. Keep trying trolll
Nah 17 straight is crazy
Excuses
The fact that they went to the 80s to try and compare MJ second year to find him losing 13 straight to the Celtics vs a dude who’s in his 21st year and losing 13 straight and swept in the NBA western conference finals by a team is literally crazy. Wait he got whooped lol so from Dec 3, 94- April 1, 97 the Bulls beat the Celtics 11 straight so yeah it can happen to anyone including the Celtics
Thats called the Celtics being a championship team and the Bulls being a bad team in the 80s. The reversal happening in the 90s
Ticket still won this debate BADLY tho..😂😂😂
You didn’t watch the debate then😭
Big OX 🐂 is comedy gold!!
Using team stats to grade individuals is dumb. It’s dumb when people do it to MJ, Bron, Melo, Barkley, AI and many more.
You don’t get to dog Scottie then say “well he didn’t have Scottie”🤣
@@LeftoverTakeyawn trolll
@@NoNameWillBeGiven778 I’m a troll yet you’re the one spamming my comments
@@LeftoverTake cry me a river trolll
Ngl swippa is a wanna be ticket 😂😂😂he like the light skin little brother
The Bronsexuals act like LeBron the only person to play a team that was a bad matchup. The Knicks were always a bad matchup for the Bulls but they still won
W RANT BY OX @ 7:00 !!!
The smile Chill got when he heard MJ Lost 17x in a row to the Celtics is straight Diabolical 😂😂
Players dont have losing streaks smooth brain
“ larrry own Mj what Larry has a 23-11 record against Mj including the playoff and during that time Mj average 35, 6,6 with 3 steals and 1.2 blocks how did Larry own him the only play Larry beat Mj is rebound and assist that it Mj was way better player head to head Larry just have 5 hall of famers on his ofc Jordan is gonna lose like what
Thats a yawn
Ngl ticket got COOOOOOOOOOKED 😂
Nuggets have a superteam??? With no all stars except Jokic??? you 46ers are crazy LOL
Anything before 91’ Jordan was thugging it out they owned him but after 91’ Jordan he took over the league
No they didnt
Based on the title what is so bad about Jordan. And young Jordan at that getting beat by Larry? Larry if he was in the league today would be a mix between luka and joker. And probably better passer than both of them
What's so bad about year 20 and 21 lebron losing to Jokic
@@dparks2856 in that content nothing. But in the content of lebron still trying to lead the team when it should be AD team. Then everything is wrong with it. The media and the fans can not give Lebron credit for his age when he succeeds and then use it as an excuse when he fails or comes up short and blame everybody else. If you want all the praise then be prepared to take the lions share of the blame. This is why AD was so upset after than game two loss he’s knows at this point and probably the last couple of years he’s been better than Lebron. But the media who Lebron owns keep saying it’s Lebron team
@@dparks2856 It's because Anthony Davis is on his team and he's 5th all time in PER so no one wants to hear that lame ass age excuse. Does Steph get an age excuse for missing the play in because he's 36 years old? When Lebum missed the play in with more help at 37 years old Lebron glazers said it doesn't count, when Steph missed the play in this year they laughed at him. I need an explanation. 🤔😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
@@t-god2439 well that's true, but it's a matter of who has a more complete team, the nuggets are a more complete then the Lakers.
@@Ghost-rb6cwI do agree but if the lakers actually played like a team. And it starts with Lebron playing in a flow of offense and not just pick and roll and trying to make the right play all the time the lakers would be so much better for as much crap as people give dlo let’s not forget that this dude is a former all star
Preaaaaaaaccch. Been saying this for years
No you haven't