Glad I found this video. I was trying to go with a cleaner install on my 3 piece wheel and was about to pull the trigger on straps. Glad you already tested it out for me. My tire shop told me they drill it. I decide to go with that after seeing yours. Ha.
Yeah, that black piece @ ~8:30 talked about came off the board on one of my new sensors. One brand of sensors that I have is not incased in silicon. I don't think that piece is an ic "chip" but some material used to measure the air pressure. Two out of 4 I bought online were no good! From now on I will buy them from my tire shop! Really it cost me about the same. Good video btw Mr.Tuner, gave you a thumb...............
Only "OEM" made in China sells for $34. From Toyota/Scion/Lexus they cost anywhere between $68 and $79.The difference is about signal and specification. I installed 5 so-called OEMs on my Sequoia and no one communicated in the test mode properly, not to mention the wide range of threshold pressure, basically rendering 2 useless with a threshold below 20 psi. Just keep in mind, I had to pay $350 for the 5 sensors only (4+spare wheel) from the Dealer. I refused, ended up replacing two TPMS ECUs, and finally gave up by disabling the warning light. This was a good lesson for me and hope for someone else, as well.
Not true. Denso first fit are same OEM Pacific sold by dealers in different box. Denso is an OE supplier and private labels these sensors for consumer. Lots of people end up buying wrong part (Toyota used 3 versions of these Pacific early on in 2004-2007) or a set of used take offs which have unknown life.
@@TunerwithKidsagree but still pricy for me , back in the 80’s your foot were the tpms one kick on the tire and you knew if air was needed , I still practice this 😂😂.
Hey, Love your channel and the content. Very useful and informative. Thanks for that. Wanted to ask a question, but while writing this comment and watching the video, heard the answer 😄
@@TunerwithKids I don't think potting compound is one specific thing. Like, I've done a "rebrick" of stuff like Commodore 64 and Atari 800XL "Ingot" power supplies and I'm sure I've seen some that appeared to be silicone. Honestly, I prefer when it's NOT silicone since I can sometimes freeze it and crack it to bits. ;)
I've found (twice) if you get Michelin tires with new sensors, the tires last so long, the batteries ALWAYS go flat before the tires wear out, by a large margin.
Talk about a waste. Its all about a throw away world we live in. We live in so much waste and pollution thats why so many people die of cancers. They could make these last and easy to replace batterys, But No....
Hey there, thanks much for this video. I just pried open one of my sensors that wasn´t giving any signal, but the battery measures 2.75V, so it´s not dead. Do you know by chance if the battery needs to be fully at 3V for the sensor to transmit?
If you already opened then new battery is the way. But for a $35 sensor, I’m not sure it’s worth it to change $15 batteries and reseal the sensor back.
After ten years of operation, for sure the battery is dead but the circuitry itself has been exposed to the bumps of the road affecting its precision so the wise thing would be to change the whole sensor.
Hi Binh! If I purchased a sensor from the dealer, would it need to be programmed thru my obd port or would the sensor be relearned by the tpms system after driving for a certain number of miles?
Needs to be programmed via oBD port using techstream or tire tool. You can buy on Amazon (Denso OEM) see links in description box for less than $40/ea. any local national tire shop can install and program for less than dealer.
I just bought some 2pc WEDS 709M that came with 90 degree valve stems and TPMS footwork adapters. Would locktight help with preventing the TPMS adapters from coming loose?
I like your very informative videos for the owners of lexus cars, brother, it is worth changing the battery or buying new sensors, my light is on today, it blinks and it stops, I think that with 10 years of life we already have to change them all, I would like to change the battery be cheaper although much more work, if I buy new ones I have to reprogram the codes, what do you think, what battery did you use?
Excúseme $30 to $35 per pms , for my 2010 civic Hybrid most places charge $65 , so It will be a good idea to change the batteries , now if you live abroad other than the US , you will be paying liver or a kidney .
Do less work by cleaning the battery side only and leaving the circuit alone. To free the battery simply heat up the connected flat pieces of metal with a soldering iron and chisel them out with a razorblade, while trying to keep enough metal to reach both sides of the battery. That way you can solder the pieces back to the new battery.
Why was it required that these sensors be implemented? Was it a safety issue thing & or just another way for companies to make an extra profit? It really would be great if they changed the design so the battery could be accessed easier without having to pretty much destroy the sensor in the process. With the TPMS it also would be great if the system would just let you know exactly which sensor has failed. I’m sure it’s probably more cost effective in some way for them not to be made that way. There’s a transmitter that is made to check to see exactly which sensor is bad & also with some vehicles the spare tire should also be checked. Thank you for showing how to do that!
It's a govt mandate since 2006 or a few years after that. Many MFGs started earlier than mandate. It helps keep the public safe by warning drivers to air their tires. They have gotten cheap, ~$30 each plus the install and program which many tire shops do now. Many cars have early versions that dont show which wheel is where but newer cars can keep track of which corner, but user/mechanic must show where they rotate the tires to.
Wasn’t thinking of when a tire rotation was completed. Good point. Do you know how the person who works on the vehicle would go about letting the system aware of a rotation? Might be a dumb question but isn’t there only 1 way to eat a Reese’s, I mean do a rotation?
@@TunerwithKids I don't know about other states, but Pennsylvania does not mandate that the TPMS system has to work to pass inspection and of course there are some states that gave no vehicle inspection program.
That and safety? I remember like 20 years ago Goodyear or Bridgestone had a huge nightmare on the Ford Explorer but most it would have been solved if owners didn’t drive with under inflated tires.
Glad I found this video. I was trying to go with a cleaner install on my 3 piece wheel and was about to pull the trigger on straps. Glad you already tested it out for me. My tire shop told me they drill it. I decide to go with that after seeing yours. Ha.
Yea I was iffy about it back in day. But my wheel assembly friends did it and it’s no different than the factory hole in any wheel.
Orientals are intelligent, talented and persistent. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Yeah, that black piece @ ~8:30 talked about came off the board on one of my new sensors. One brand of sensors that I have is not incased in silicon. I don't think that piece is an ic "chip" but some material used to measure the air pressure. Two out of 4 I bought online were no good! From now on I will buy them from my tire shop! Really it cost me about the same.
Good video btw Mr.Tuner, gave you a thumb...............
Yea. Aftermarket and used are suspect. These OEM are like $30 to $40 each and last 10 years so might as well get new.
Not sure how good they will be, but I bought preprogrammed "More Sensor" replacements on Amazon for
Can you reuse the old valve stem with those?
Only "OEM" made in China sells for $34. From Toyota/Scion/Lexus they cost anywhere between $68 and $79.The difference is about signal and specification. I installed 5 so-called OEMs on my Sequoia and no one communicated in the test mode properly, not to mention the wide range of threshold pressure, basically rendering 2 useless with a threshold below 20 psi. Just keep in mind, I had to pay $350 for the 5 sensors only (4+spare wheel) from the Dealer. I refused, ended up replacing two TPMS ECUs, and finally gave up by disabling the warning light. This was a good lesson for me and hope for someone else, as well.
Not true. Denso first fit are same OEM Pacific sold by dealers in different box. Denso is an OE supplier and private labels these sensors for consumer. Lots of people end up buying wrong part (Toyota used 3 versions of these Pacific early on in 2004-2007) or a set of used take offs which have unknown life.
@@TunerwithKidsagree but still pricy for me , back in the 80’s your foot were the tpms one kick on the tire and you knew if air was needed , I still practice this 😂😂.
Thanks. Learned a lot. You saved me a lot of tinkering time.
Hey, Love your channel and the content. Very useful and informative. Thanks for that. Wanted to ask a question, but while writing this comment and watching the video, heard the answer 😄
The filler is called "potting compound." It's very common in old power bricks and power supplies.
Naw, the stuff they use in here is rubber silicone like RTV. I use potting compound for my HID ballasts and I know what that stuff hardens like.
@@TunerwithKids I don't think potting compound is one specific thing. Like, I've done a "rebrick" of stuff like Commodore 64 and Atari 800XL "Ingot" power supplies and I'm sure I've seen some that appeared to be silicone. Honestly, I prefer when it's NOT silicone since I can sometimes freeze it and crack it to bits. ;)
After replaced batteries for FORD tpms sensors, they did not work anymore.
Lost some information and need to be re-programed?
Idk, it should just work as it just stores the TPMS code and transmits pressure data to the car.
Which element is the pressure sensor? (I mean the motherboard look after disassembling)
Thank you very much for sparing me energy and time.
I've found (twice) if you get Michelin tires with new sensors, the tires last so long, the batteries ALWAYS go flat before the tires wear out, by a large margin.
These are 7 to 10 year batteries.
@@TunerwithKids Good to know. I had the tire store install the last ones, very likely not Lexus.
Talk about a waste. Its all about a throw away world we live in. We live in so much waste and pollution thats why so many people die of cancers. They could make these last and easy to replace batterys, But No....
Hey there, thanks much for this video. I just pried open one of my sensors that wasn´t giving any signal, but the battery measures 2.75V, so it´s not dead. Do you know by chance if the battery needs to be fully at 3V for the sensor to transmit?
That’s within the 10% tolerance but if they are old, they may not have enough amps.
@@TunerwithKids Thanks. I'll replace a brand new battery and recheck
If you already opened then new battery is the way. But for a $35 sensor, I’m not sure it’s worth it to change $15 batteries and reseal the sensor back.
After ten years of operation, for sure the battery is dead but the circuitry itself has been exposed to the bumps of the road affecting its precision so the wise thing would be to change the whole sensor.
Yea for $35/sensor it’s not worth the trouble. That coin battery is already $15/each.
Hi Binh! If I purchased a sensor from the dealer, would it need to be programmed thru my obd port or would the sensor be relearned by the tpms system after driving for a certain number of miles?
Needs to be programmed via oBD port using techstream or tire tool. You can buy on Amazon (Denso OEM) see links in description box for less than $40/ea. any local national tire shop can install and program for less than dealer.
@@TunerwithKids Thank u Binh!
Would u happen to know the type of battery 2009 Lexus ISF TPMS use?
Thanks,
Same as this.
@@TunerwithKids
Thank you sir 👍
I just bought some 2pc WEDS 709M that came with 90 degree valve stems and TPMS footwork adapters. Would locktight help with preventing the TPMS adapters from coming loose?
My issue with the valve ring is they break when tightening cause hollow screw. Lock tight means you have to risk break it off each tire valve change.
Use acetone to remove the silicone
Good video man! They made it very difficult to get to the battery
But last 15 years. No battery drain. Buy factory OEM!
@@americanrealitytoday My Peugeot 407 V6 have the same pressure sensor and it last about 18 years.
You answered my question about replacing batteries.
Really interesting even for a Mercedes Tech. Thanks
hi Binh
my car is lexus rx350 year 2015
what is battery code for my car?
thank you so much
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For car battery? Or for TPMS?
@@TunerwithKids
for both battery and tpms lexus rx350 2015
thank you very much
I like your very informative videos for the owners of lexus cars, brother, it is worth changing the battery or buying new sensors, my light is on today, it blinks and it stops, I think that with 10 years of life we already have to change them all, I would like to change the battery be cheaper although much more work, if I buy new ones I have to reprogram the codes, what do you think, what battery did you use?
Buy new. It’s not worth it to replace due to construction of the sensor vs the cost of new $35/ea.
I appreciate your response and advice, do you say $35 new oem toyota or aftermarket?
Check links in description. Denso is OEM pacific brand sensor.
Very detailed video.
Excúseme $30 to $35 per pms , for my 2010 civic Hybrid most places charge $65 , so It will be a good idea to change the batteries , now if you live abroad other than the US , you will be paying liver or a kidney .
Do less work by cleaning the battery side only and leaving the circuit alone. To free the battery simply heat up the connected flat pieces of metal with a soldering iron and chisel them out with a razorblade, while trying to keep enough metal to reach both sides of the battery. That way you can solder the pieces back to the new battery.
Misleading title. "TPMS Battery Change"???
How long does the sensor last for?
7 to 10 years. I previous set I changed at 10 years a precaution since I have 20s and cost of tire dismount isn’t worth it for a $35 sensor.
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Well done.
Why was it required that these sensors be implemented? Was it a safety issue thing & or just another way for companies to make an extra profit? It really would be great if they changed the design so the battery could be accessed easier without having to pretty much destroy the sensor in the process. With the TPMS it also would be great if the system would just let you know exactly which sensor has failed. I’m sure it’s probably more cost effective in some way for them not to be made that way. There’s a transmitter that is made to check to see exactly which sensor is bad & also with some vehicles the spare tire should also be checked. Thank you for showing how to do that!
It's a govt mandate since 2006 or a few years after that. Many MFGs started earlier than mandate. It helps keep the public safe by warning drivers to air their tires. They have gotten cheap, ~$30 each plus the install and program which many tire shops do now. Many cars have early versions that dont show which wheel is where but newer cars can keep track of which corner, but user/mechanic must show where they rotate the tires to.
Wasn’t thinking of when a tire rotation was completed. Good point. Do you know how the person who works on the vehicle would go about letting the system aware of a rotation? Might be a dumb question but isn’t there only 1 way to eat a Reese’s, I mean do a rotation?
Some cars have settings in the infotainment system.
@@TunerwithKids
I don't know about other states, but Pennsylvania does not mandate that the TPMS system has to work to pass inspection and of course there are some states that gave no vehicle inspection program.
That and safety? I remember like 20 years ago Goodyear or Bridgestone had a huge nightmare on the Ford Explorer but most it would have been solved if owners didn’t drive with under inflated tires.
No I bought them and there is no guarantee the batteries in the new ones will last when you buy them
Where is the battery change?
Point of video is that changing the battery is not worth it. Just buy new one for $35.
@@TunerwithKids Thank you.
I would consider retitling the video.
That was easy. 4 batteries are $15.
"...replace these.... ahhh..."
let me help you "grommet".
Xin chào, tôi đã thay pin trong TPMS của mình như thế này:
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Man you talk too much. Could have done this in a minute or less.
Yea but would you have learned anything about why to not waste time with battery changes when these are $35 new.