Is Craftsman Better than Ryobi?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2022
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When it comes down to the entry level brands at both Lowes and Home Depot, are you better off with Craftsman or Ryobi
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I wouldn't say better but a great alternative. A lot of the time I've found my craftsman stuff on sale for cheaper than Ryobi and I absolutely love my craftsman stuff. Especially the brushless. If you really like Dewalt stuff but can't afford it or don't want to spend the money on it, craftsman is just older gens of Dewalt in red clothes but with decent power and reliability.
Also if go with craftsman, at least get a couple 2 ah batteries. Huge difference from the 1.5's. I end up using the 2ah's more than the 4ahs cause of weight and some times a bit too much power.
I think some of their early Made in the USA version were more impressive than what they are putting out now in their RP line but you are correct, comparable is a good way to put.
@@TinkerWithTools I wish I could try the USA version, I'd like to see if there is a difference but I'm too poor and don't know anyone with them.
@@TinkerWithToolsyes, 100% agree. I got the USA craftsman impact driver, hammer drill and drill driver. I am really happy with them and this is coming from a Ridgid and DeWalt guy. If you get a chance to get your hands on them, I would recommend it. That USA impact is like an improved 887
I’ve literally been on the fence about investing into the Ryobi 18v line (bc I’ve been surprisingly happy with their 40v outdoor stuff) or the Milwaukee m12 and this video convinced me to go Milwaukee
The M12 stuff is more impressive in my opinion so if it comes down to those two, I think you made a good choice.
Just found your channel. Thanks for the content. Reminds me of MCT but your presentation is a little smoother.
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Love your channel. Have been a fan ever since I noticed your super under appreciated C12RSH2 miter saw. Speaking of Hitachi, it’s hard for me to justify Craftsman or Ryobi drill/driver kits right now when Metabo HPT is selling their 18v hammer drill (entry level model with no handle attachment) and 18v triple hammer impact + 2 batteries and a charger for $130. These tools are just on another level in my opinion. With that said, I love the super basic Craftsman cordless brushed recip saw. I also just got their Brad nailer for $100 and I’ve been more than happy with it. Ryobi has that super awesome pulse driver and also some amazing nailers and crown staplers so they’re cool too eh.
Yeah, I feel like Metabo HPT is a step above the Craftsman/Ryobi lines of tools. But they can't match the expansive lineup they have. But what they do have it awesome!
As for the Miter Saw, I love it. It's almost perfect. I sort wish I had gotten the 10" just to keep blade costs down but it's a great saw and it was a great price when I got it.
I hope you also consider to compare CMCF820 & CMCD721 with other brand on the same price level or similar specs.
In Asia & Australia, the sell this Craftsman with Stanley Fatmax brand.
They have all but removed those stores here where I live. I can still order online for now so maybe if enough people respond positively to this video I can go out and pick it up.
Ryobi has a 2 tool combo kit with the HP hammer drill (with auxiliary handle) and a different HP impact driver that has different speed settings. But I have the drill and impact you used in this video so this was literally exactly what I was looking for lol.
The specs on those models are the same but they gain the hammer function and the speed settings. Made it hard to justify getting them. Glad you liked the video.
Craftsman 20v tools are branded Stanley fat max in Australia they also have 60v outdoor tools
Same in Europe. But I think they haven't yet fully expanded their line of V20 tools... or 60V outdoor tools... but we'll see.
Seems the same. I use them on roofs and siding, the craftsman vs Ryobi should be in the batteries. Seems the craftsman batteries are the weakness. I should have had more timing in the batteries by like 10 cuts on the craftsman, I used the 2.0 batteries interchanging them.
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I've been a Ryobi user for a few years now, and honestly as long as you stick with their top tier tools they do really well. I have noticed that with the 1.5& 2 AH batteries the performance suffers. As with any tool you should look as use case, and what not. Cordless tools are much more convenient than any corded tool, or air tool. In most cases Ryobi HP tools are up to the task, and will get the job done. I don't have any experience with the SBD Craftsman tools other than a handful one off uses. I can say though SBD Craftsman is better than what the Sears Craftsman has been.
The Ryobi HP line is a big improvement for Ryobi and for the vast majority of people is more than enough tool. When it comes down to it, if someone tells me they want good tools but don't want to break the bank, Ryobi is my recommendation almost every time. That lineup just has so many tools.
I wonder if in the same price range the new Skil Pwr Core drill and impact driver might be a better choice than either of these.
I haven’t tried them out but I think there are a lot of tools that will perform better than these if you can wait for the right sale to put them in the same range for price.
I haven’t tried the skill though to be able to say.
I have Ryobi but some of the other tool channels on YT have looked at the new Skil tools and were impressed.
awesome video. how do you put the timer on the video?
In the editing software. It’s just a second camera angle done Picture in Picture. Then line it up with the video.
@@TinkerWithTools awesome. What editing software do you use?
@@ckcuev this was done on iMovie
@@TinkerWithTools thanks
Lowes barley exists in my province, I've got 3 HDs in a 120km radius. Ryobi wins
Also nobody I know uses those black batteries in anything lmao
Yeah I don’t advise sticking with them but people do use them until they get something bigger.
Can you repeat the test with 2 or 4 ah batteries? I think it would be more realistic of the kits being sold today
I don't currently have the craftsman set anymore. It was gifted to someone one who needed a drill set. If I ever purchase again, I will be sure to test it.
It was sad to see the impact fail so badly.
I own the USA assembled IMPACT it has a power shifter between two settings.
I know for a fact it has far more power then that new R/P stuff in terms of drills they have.
I’m not satisfied with the RP drills, but the other RP stuff but the offer is very good.
Yeah I wasn’t impressed with the RP stuff.
It’s sad that my m12 drill and impact can outperform both of those brands 18v lines. 😅
It really can
The craftsman set mirrors Dewalt if you think about it. Dewalt drills are probably the best on the market (and that’s coming from a Milwaukee user lol) but the impact driver and the one it took it’s design from seems like an afterthought. Btw, I think that’s why they detuned the motor, it would’ve been waaay too close in spec (and I’ll be willing to bet in performance also) to the supposed top of the line XR. That’d make a good comparison video. RP vs XR. Just for 💩s and giggles.
The highest uwo on craftsman tools are 320 the dcd800 is what 800 uwo so I believe you would be incredibly unhappy 😡
I believe this is almost a direct copy of the DCD777 for example. Similar size, power speeds. The RP is no match for the XR line but it would be fun to see how bad it would get destroyed.
@@TinkerWithTools S/BD worries so much about protecting the Dewalt name at any cost, they won’t let any of their brands be even close to them in specs. TTI just don’t care lol. Both the Ryobi and Ridgid top impact drivers are rated at a higher torque than Milwaukee.
@@Griffinwoodworks this impacts may be rated higher in torque but I honestly feel like they are hallow claims. The RPMs and impacts are lower so the torque really doesn’t matter for what most are using it for.
@@TinkerWithTools honestly high torque on impact drivers is really overrated anyway. I have to keep my m18 in speed 2 for most circumstances. Speed 3 is great if you need it, but in my experience, it snaps screw heads regularly.
trust me as an ironworker and using craftsman tools even the old 18V impact would shatter my extensions if I didn't let off on the trigger as the screw bottomed out.. That is plenty of torgue when it shatters my bits. The new 20V are even more powerful..ya don't really need anymore power than that. I also noticed you are only using a 2.0AH battery on the craftsman..I don't know enough about ryobi to say what battery that is
I believe the ryobi was a 2ah too.
I looking at baur tools
I hate the Crafstman power tools. I used my son-laws helping him with a remodel. The batteries died quick and changing the batteries was ridiculously hard.
I am not a huge fan either. they aren't terrible tools but there hasn't been anything that really impressed me either.
I'm excited to see the new usa made hand tools from craftsman, if it EVER happens. They built an entire plant in Texas
I think the hand tools will be a different story. They don’t have an established DEWALT hand tool line like they do with craftsman. I think they will really push that forward. It will be a fun comparison of craftsman USA made vs Milwaukee USA made.
@@TinkerWithToolsMilwaukee power tools are made in china
It's amazing that it looks almost the same as stanley fatmax.
My guess is they are very similar if not the same. I am guessing just different brands for different markets.
Drilling with an impact driver? That's a no-no. Drills are not designed for impacts. Drills are for drilling tools.
Frankly, impact drivers are needed by carpenters and car mechanics only. All other tasks can be completed by drills, including driving screws, with much better control and precision.
I agree with you that I would rather use a drill but it does happen quite often with impacts. But the beauty of that is that each person gets to pick the tools they want to use. As for driving tasks I go back and forth. For precision I will go with a drill (specifically one of the installation drill drivers) but for fast repetitive tasks I think the impact greatly improves the task.
I use to work for SBD, they would take the speed down to put the driver where they want it to be price wise while not getting too close to whatever the metrics are for their DeWalt products. SBD is a cesspool of a company, and the poor new product development (NPD) engineers have to deal with BS like this all the time.
It’s probably safe to say that dictating performance figures happens in most situations where you have a group of brands under the same umbrellas. There are only a few true independent companies out there anymore.
@@TinkerWithTools Very true, I'm salty because I'm an honest guy. Reality is no company is going to hamstring one of their own products, just because another is made well :)
I think on the ryobi drill you had the speed setting on two which give less torque.
You are correct. We were running both tools in their highest speed settings to start.
In fairness to Craftsman in this test the RP Line is not the top tier Craftsman drill and impact. The made in America drill and impact are the top tier. The RP line is more mid tier.
Based on the marketing that is out there now I think that the RP line is meant to replace the older Made in the USA modes they came out with at first. I get that it’s faster but all of their press info on the tools was that these were their new premium brushless tools.
What's your opinion on that Ryobi HP impact? I've never much cared for Ryobi, but I've seen a lot of good things when strictly speaking of that impact. I might go as far to say it's pro-sumer class IMHO. Honestly I'll say that in my uneducated on the subject and heavily biased opinion (don't listen to me I'm an idiot🤣🤣) the rest of their tools are garbage. But I'll grudgingly say I might buy that impact. I'm a metabo hpt 36v fanboy
It’s a good impact driver. It just not the fastest. I think it’s plenty strong. The HP tools in general and just about the only ryobi core tools I would consider. They have some nice niche tools like their little shop blower or the glue gun that I truly love
Ironically, Sears Craftsman cordless tools use to be rebadged Ryobi's.
I didn't know that! Thanks for sharing!
I’m not a fan of drilling with impact drivers, I don’t believe they are meant for that
Yep to each their own but I can tell you it happens a lot. I’ve gone back and forth over the years on which tool I prefer over the other but the truth is that neither truly replaces the other.
@@TinkerWithTools for me the drill driver is faster and the noise the impact makes is deafening
Craftsman did their customers dirty by not rebranding the CMCF820 which was the Impact you were thinking of when they came out with the RP line. The 820 is Craftsman’s 3 speed clone of the DeWalt 887. In fact all of the USA branded impacts and drills have essentially been shelved by SBD in favor of these weaker RP branded ones. I’m seriously considering selling off my Craftsman tools and starting over with Kobalt.
With that being said, your test was apples to apples since both feature just the variable speed trigger.
Yeah it didn’t make much sense to me. I saw they used to have the USA branded stuff but it wasn’t available at my local store.
@@TinkerWithTools maybe the USA stuff did a little too well? I know there were some videos where the 820 beat the 887. Can’t have little brother beating on big brother, lol.
@@FyrFytr998 yeah we have seen TTI shut down stuff at Ridgid that flew too close to the sun.
@@TinkerWithTools so true, when some Ridgid stuff was as good/powerful as Milwaukee in some cases better, I started buying stuff up. Then they go and cut the flow off some awesome stuff. I have a ton of Ridgid stuff. Never really been let down in 12 years. Just a charger once. I wish the shackles were still off them and let them go and let the consumer decide. Anyway this is getting long. Over all the years of building and going through tools I've found I've been let down least by Milwaukee and Ridgid. I'm pretty invested in them and happy, so I'll stick with em.
Ok I think on the 1.5 ah battery's the craftsman drill did better but when you get into the higher ah battery like the new 6.0 hp batteries you will show what I believe will be a different story I have the hp hammerdrill but not the craftsman so I can't speak for sure
I agree. I hadn’t been unimpressed with the Ryobi to that point. It’s just starved on the smaller batteries. The craftsman was able to do them on speed 2 so now I want to get a 4 or a 6ah for craftsman and see how that performance scales.
@@TinkerWithTools i agree and would love to see it. I think its great that the value brands have majorly stepped up for instance the hart impact gun on ttc I think I did well but to be honest I paid less for my Milwaukee m18 fuel midtorque. I never buy tools at full price I will wait for a sale or buy brand new on Amazon, fb Market place or bogo deals at the homeless despot
The Ryobi 1.5ah and 2ah batteries are just useless, I only use the 4ah batteries and higher.
The 2ah high output or performance batteries are decent when I want to keep the weight down. I use them in stuff like a fan or just a drill for something light. They aren’t terrible but if you want serious work done yeah you need to step up.
Craftsman needs to add more power
Craftsman is way way better than Ryobi
What tools do you use that are “way better”? Genuinely curious what you have liked?
@@TinkerWithTools I have used all of there tools. There low end tools aren't the best but the brushless tools are amazing.there recip saw, jigsaw, muitl tools are top of the line in brushless rp. Have seen any tool for anyone beat them. Circular saw in rp is a beast also. There hammer drills and impact are very good also just not top of the line, but are still very powerful.
So CRAFTSMAN tools are 3year old DEWALT tools
That’s one way to look at it. I think there are worse things you can buy for sure but it’s not going to be super powerful. This is a DIY drill meant for smaller items. In that it does do decently well.
there is no reason to go with any of these specially when you can find better deals on better tools.
of course if you have no time to look for deals and just want to buy some tools you can use once a year you go with a low grade tools