What if Angry Birds Was a Roguelike!? | Let's Try Arrogue

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Wishlist / Play the Demo for Arrogue: store.steampowered.com/app/27...
    Collect, upgrade and unlock powerful arrows and relics to protect and restore your village. For that you’ll have to fight against procedurally generated hordes of enemies in this turn-per-turn, physics-based, roguelike! Explore the map, find the right path and make decisive choices in random events.
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  • @CoduckStudio
    @CoduckStudio Місяць тому +86

    Hello Retromation, I'm the dev of Arrogue! Thanks for playing the game and for your valuable feedback :D
    It is in early development right now but I'm glad you enjoyed the core concept!

    • @cringebas
      @cringebas Місяць тому +18

      Hey man, nice project you got there. I just wanted to say that imo it’s better to stick to one art style. There’s a contrast between pixel art and this sorta doll animation of everything else.
      Good luck Coduck!

    • @andrewhouchin5812
      @andrewhouchin5812 Місяць тому +19

      It would be really cool to be able to exploit the environment to do damage to enemies (e.g drop platforms or other objects on them, explode bombs nearby, etc.)

    • @Retromation
      @Retromation  Місяць тому +40

      I think this is a fantastic start. Hopefully my notes are taken from a place of me seeing a ton of potential in the game! I think you are going to put out a banger!

    • @diotenchi
      @diotenchi Місяць тому +3

      The game has potential!

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Місяць тому +7

      Some (quite frankly terrible) ideas:
      - Instead of having melee units attack you from range, you could make it so they have to attack the bottom of the tower when they're next to it. That allows you to add ground units that make sense in having range - mages, rangers, cannons etc. It also allows the introduction of units of mixed type, for example monsters who have both a low power ranged attack and will attack the tower for much more in melee when they get next to it.
      - While the floating planks are okay, it would be more fun if things had a tiny more bit of "realism". Does every ground unit need to be surrounded in thick floating walls? Why not be more creative and have them "push" walls on wheels (the wheels are just cosmetic). You can also have mages that stay in the back but build magic shields for flying units so that it makes more sense than just floating chunks of wood. If you kill the mage through their thick magic shield, the flying units don't have shields anymore, and if the mage lasts until the end of combat, they run away. It's not really something that's needed in the game and would be extremely limiting in terms of creative freedom, but at least for me random flying shapes aren't really appealing. At least not those big boxes (7:09) and rectangles (16:46). If the rectangles at least had a shield (deltoid) shape they would look much better. Maybe if the big boxes on the ground had cosmetic wheels and the floating ones had cosmetic propellers they'd look better.
      - Players love physics. If you remember the flashgame Crush the Castle, you'll know what I'm talking about - being able to have things collapse of topple on top of enemies (like siege towers) is fun. Of course what isn't fun is that would be extremely hard to do with the current system in the game and how things work. So, not a great idea for this game, but maybe for the sequel :P
      - biggest issue I have - 14:15 the spider isn't in the center of the web. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. And I know that it's because the web looks better that way and it's impossible to place the spider in the middle without redesigning it but spiders love that spot D:

  • @ImTheGuy
    @ImTheGuy Місяць тому +25

    This isn't angry birds, this is disgruntled avians.

  • @faefeatherweight
    @faefeatherweight 20 днів тому +1

    You're a blessing to any dev whose game you pick up. I'm a game designer, and I think your feedbacks are very high quality. So many things I was finding wrong here you highlighted. And you did so in a very kind way, while still trying to entertain, and while being understanding and positive. You have a true expertise in roguelike and strategy games and it shows. This community is so lucky to have you. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @BaresarkSlayne
    @BaresarkSlayne 28 днів тому +6

    I think the most annoying part about this game is the fact that each of those tile structures moves one at a time and it takes forever between turns as a fight progresses.

  • @ssnnooppyys7272
    @ssnnooppyys7272 Місяць тому +15

    22:31 I can't believe the dev put a "hitting metal 17 times" reference in there lmaooo

    • @pixeldude3607
      @pixeldude3607 Місяць тому +3

      Im glad I'm not the only one that noticed it 😂

    • @mohamedehab9342
      @mohamedehab9342 Місяць тому +3

      I loved that series

  • @mica4977
    @mica4977 Місяць тому +7

    I could see it being useful to start out with an Armor, Multishot and maybe Strength arrow to round it off a bit at the start. Also having a "hero power" that lets you skip an arrow with a one or two turn cooldown to further strategize how and when you wish to shoot which arrow would help in any given situation.

  • @Shadow86TheGamer
    @Shadow86TheGamer Місяць тому +7

    Even the tanki mobs with melee weapons with lots of HP can hit you from afar wtf...that is just unfair.

  • @ShadowBMe
    @ShadowBMe 23 дні тому +2

    I loved it. I absolutely agree that it needs some rebalancing and other work but I have just wishlisted it expecting that changes are coming. I look forward to this game's future.

  • @Lastielion
    @Lastielion Місяць тому +6

    Oh, this is just like Peglin...
    Moments later:
    Oh, this is no Peglin

  • @Magic_Toaster
    @Magic_Toaster 29 днів тому +1

    You should have gotten a wonderful picture of a car for your wonderful metal hitting

  • @KeithThedfordII
    @KeithThedfordII Місяць тому +4

    I'm really digging the colored borders on the thumbnails, Retro! Ik it seems insignificant, but your thumbnails are unironically one of my favorite things about your channel so I do take notice (I don't think I'm the only one who does).

    • @Retromation
      @Retromation  Місяць тому +3

      Glad to hear! I am running the new A/B testing to see what my audience responds to more. If it helps or barely hurts engagement I'll make the official swap to it because I like it!

    • @ratterkin
      @ratterkin Місяць тому

      @@Retromation hello retro im sorry if this is a selfish suggestion but can you play yi xian and make another series?

    • @m0002856
      @m0002856 29 днів тому

      @@Retromation
      I hadn’t noticed at first, but I think having the colors match the rest of the thumbnail does add a nice level of polish.
      The fact that I didn’t notice is a good thing cuz I likely only would have noticed had I been told or if they looked so awful that it stood out LOL

    • @LaserStorm117
      @LaserStorm117 29 днів тому +1

      I was just thinking about that a couple days ago. I agree with you about his thumbnails, and I really enjoy the font he uses

  • @ManlyPicnics
    @ManlyPicnics 29 днів тому

    God, Crush The Castle, now that's a memory. What a banger flash game, I played that so much. This game also seems pretty solid, for a demo, it's a fantastic foundation.

  • @banjokatooie
    @banjokatooie Місяць тому +5

    I think the game has potential, but desperately needs polish and re-balancing.

  • @arturomirra4675
    @arturomirra4675 Місяць тому +1

    Love your content Retro. I think you'd enjoy a game called DoomDepths.

  • @Steamrider5
    @Steamrider5 Місяць тому +50

    this game looks pretty awful but for some reason i cant stop watching

  • @rexamillion8446
    @rexamillion8446 Місяць тому +2

    I miss Crush the Castle

  • @maximementen7894
    @maximementen7894 Місяць тому +3

    Hey Reto, have you tried Esport Godfather? It's a game similar to Teamfight Manager but with way more customisation and control over the fights.

    • @MasterMemo
      @MasterMemo Місяць тому +1

      That sounds cool

    • @Lastielion
      @Lastielion Місяць тому

      Does it have the same really cool music? Honestly, that was my favourite thing about that series!

    • @maximementen7894
      @maximementen7894 Місяць тому

      @@Lastielion Depends on what you like I suppose, it has some 8bit style gaming music, which changes depending on if you're in battle or not

  • @marcosmachado6844
    @marcosmachado6844 27 днів тому +1

    Game needs a lot of polish and balancing. The game concept is decent but the gameplay feels too slow. It's not satisfying.

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 29 днів тому

    Couldn't you shoot arrows toward the sky?