Servbot is funy as hell and I have made many people quit because they thought I was trolling them with his tiny hitbox. Use Spiral on ground type to build meter since she doesn't Need supers, have Servy on the type that fills the screen, and Iceman. Get close with any of the three and force them to block a jab or two then hit the team hyper combo and watch 40-60% of their health get deleted while blocking.
@@cubescast Depends on the story arc. Sentinels go from fodder to apocalyptic Terminator death machines - Typically it requires proximity with Nimrod and Bastion but not always.
Fun fact: Sabretooth’s assist assist, Birdy, existed for an extremely short period in the 90s and was already dead in the comics by her appearance in X-Men vs. Street Fighter. She continued to be dead for all her future assist assist appearances and was only resurrected in 2022. The MvC collection will be her first assist assist appearance while alive.
@@Snickerway Yeah, Birdy was such a weird X-character- I think Jim Lee might have had bigger plans for her, but as-is, she was just "Jim wants to draw another hot chick" and she didn't last long after he was gone.
You missed that spider man can hit once with his air lk and then still do anything he wants in the air He also has an amazing Triangle dash which deserves a lot of cred. He is the mid tier magneto. His mixup game out of air combos will keep your opponent guessing constantly and spider man plays extremely well with teams. Truly one of the most underappreciated characters in the game
Marvel vs Capcom 2 has one thing above a lot of fighters. At a casual level, every character is just the right amount of viable. It's one of the rare games I can think of that just about anyone on the roster has something fun to mess around with. The only real issue is that Cable exists, and he's just broken out the gate without needing execution. Anyone who sucks at MVC2 could be viable with basics from Sentinel, Cable, and a good third pick as an assist.
Tbh, i would be cool with an MvC2 Redux mod or something that just levels the playing field a bit, because up until some top and god tiers it seemed actually balanced af (Also another old game where this is lowkey similar is MBAACC, thankfully all the top tiers require atleast decent neutral sense and most a fuck ton of execution. Which for an indie fighter with escentially 93 characters due yo each having 3 different movesets and game mechanics is fucking impresive)
For Dan, his biggest strength that you didn't mention is his max suicide super (not sure of the translation). Landing the super instantly kills his opponent. Still trash tier but it is his most useful tool if he's close to death and happens to land it on someone
It doesn't instakill, but it _is_ the strongest single move in the game doing 100 damage. It's a good move to get when you need to kill a character, but yeah. Still garbage.
Everyone checkin just to see if their favorites aren't too bad. This isn't advice It's just something I hope people do. Be creative. Pick the team you want and then figure out how to make it work. It will keep you interested longer at least in my experience. If you've never played this game or haven't since the arcade days playing Storm, Magneto, Sentinel wont magically make you good at the game. But I'd be interested to see what experienced players think about it.
I hope to see creativity and innovation with new players as well, giving the other characters a chance. IMO the meta of the game is pretty glitchy, lame and not the way it was expected to be played (in an era where updates weren't a thing). People like Maximilian gaslight players, making it look like getting juggled to death because of a bug is FUN. People are about to find out that the game isn't as fun to play as it's to watch when played like this.
I'll be honest, while I'm nowhere near competitive level, I absolutely love using shuma gorath as a rush down point character. His petrification (down +hk) seems to drop him from some infinites. Also, he has a much smaller hit box when crouching vs crouching with block. Have worked out my own combo with him that seems to have infinite potential (I've managed multiple chains, but never quite get it right to keep it going all the way) and it fills his meter fast to get that 3 bar chaos dimension
Adamantium Wolverine speeding up makes no sense. Because adamantium adds a huge weight to his body so the normal skeleton version should be a lot faster...
My favorite thing about BB Hood is the fact that half her moves are the typical fairy tale character moves you'll expect and the other half is the typical American citizen
as a gun toting american, i have to ask, have you seen the majority of our citizens? they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paperbag let alone put the safety on a pistol.
Charlie is misplaced too… he’s got damage for days without ever using meter. Builds meter like crazy. Six.crescent kick is an amaaazing tool. Very underappreciated
Love this kind of content! I can tell this was from someone with a fairly high amount of experience and knowledge of the game. I learned and relearned quite a bit from it. Would love to see more rankings/tier lists for other games such as classic GG games, KoF games, Melty games, and BB games.
24:59 if the opponent doesn't roll the player can use Cammy to start the combo over again, if they dash towards the opponent. It maybe less damage on the restart but, a hit is a hit and made it to the end of the video.
Cammy forced you to tech roll. You didn't and she had a bar you were just gonna go for the ride all over again. So there was a mind game there too, which way to roll.
Low tier- dont have combos or assists Mid tier- has either a combo or assist High tier- is actually a character that works. The most beloved fighting game of all time folks!
And the god tier which apparently literally forces the other player to be unable to play the game unless they're also playing a god tier character and even then oftentimes if they get hit a single time games over
I never knew we were both Illinoisans! I know 90% of people are going to play MVC2, but if you're interested, I'd really love for you to rank the other games in the collection too. Controversial opinion...I'm more of a Marvel 1 fan over Marvel 2.
As a non-FGC player who just finds stuff like this fascinating, I thought to myself at the beginning "Oh it would be fun to have a true Marvel vs Capcom, like have a tournament where half the players only play Marvel and half only play Capcom and they battle each other. I now see how comical of a blowout that would be.
Rogue power drain is one of her better tools. Let's her berak open people that turtle and on a cross up dive kick in the corner she gets a free air combo. Also depending on who you are fighting it gives different temp power ups that open up some fun options. What's cooler is that some characters give her different power depending on state. Examples being Captain America with or without shield gives power and speed respectively, Silver Samurai varios mode changes give different powers, and she can steal special states of some charcters like Colossus super armor state, Jin's desperation state and others. Makes her fun to mess around with cause who you fight can change your strategy.
I actually didn't know that you live in Chicago. I got into anime fighters from Smash with DBFZ, and your videos on the game were a massive resource to me, I've been watching since. Cool to know that you've been nearby all these years, cheers!
Other Characteristics: *Heavy* *Characters:* Hulk, Juggernaut, Sentinel, Mecha Zangief?. Won't be as airborne from certain attacks from the opponent. *Chip* *Damage* *On* *Regular* *Attacks:* Jin, Hulk, Sentinel. Most or all attacks perform chip damage. I don't hear much about the unique traits that lies within this game.
Guile is surprisingly strong against sent. You dont have to charge his flash kick in the air and it has a gigantic projectile that knocks sent out of the air. So if you super jump and immediately flash kick then it keeps sent out of the air
I’ve never played an MVC game but this was still a fun watch! I love Roll as a character so I’ll probably wind up playing her despite her tier placement XD
20:07 Fun fact, you can Tiger Knee Omega Red’s Carbonadium Smasher super, which increases combo potential. Just end your QFC +2xpunch movement with ↗️ up forward as soon as you leave the ground.
I honestly feel like Ruby Heart is very viable in competitive play especially since how not many people play her so theres alot of hidden tech that can be discovered with her. Shes such a super underrated character and i may be biased since shes my main but i always seen her potential
Ruby actually has an infinite, it does require a bit of practice but she doesn't need assists to do it. Should you drop the combo, you can recover safely and try again. Ruby's crouching hk is a great control tool. It's deceptively fast, and can hit mutiple characters at once. You can stop supers and almost all assists. It can be hard to get combos off of it without assists though; and it isn't really spamable, but it can also let you crouch lower during the attack animation (similar to sonson's crawl move). Ruby also has a glitch! It involves her qcf move. If you do the normal version to it's limit, then the super version to it's limit, while going up to the top of the screen as much as possible, you might "exit" the stage for 10 seconds (leaves the world) . However I managed to pull this off on the dreamcast version; not sure about the other versions.
How bad is Roll? I can't tell you anything about how to play MvC2 and yet I still know that Roll is the worst. That should tell you something. I assume.
13:07 That Felicia grab does great damage, however I believe there's also a bug where it gives the opponent much more meter than they're supposed to on hit.
to anyone new as someone who's been casually playing my entire life, be sure to just experiment and play characters that you actually like! Like Venom as a character? Play Venom etc! I play mostly mids but I don't mind cause I love the characters I play :)
Dhalsim is underrated imo. I think the fact he can call assists from super jump height and stall at the time similar to storm while having that magneto speed is very valuable. His biggest issues imo is that he is hard to execute and he is pretty picky about who he teams up with imo.
So I ended up learning how to play the worst team comp in MvC2: Servbot, Roll, Dan. So, these characters are absolutely terrible, but they all have redeeming qualities… barely. Servbot’s Balance Super really is good, it’s literally free damage for just one bar. The downside is that the assist is too small and weak to do anything other than extremely niche pressure mixups. Roll’s projectile assist is bad, but at least its slow and deals damage, which is honestly good enough in this comp. And Dan’s anti-air assist is actually really good when he gets invulnerability on it, deals good damage, and covers a wide area. Generally, the gameplan for me went like this: If Servbot’s the point character, zone out the enemy to build meter with Roll and Dan assists. Roll is for the decent damage on hit and the chip damage, while Dan is used when the opponent closes in on Servbot. Servbot himself has 4 projectiles that, while terrible, are unique enough to create a bit of a mental stack on an opponent that’s unable to handle it. Light punch projectile is his absolute fastest, and it’s honestly just as good on block as it is on hit, because of the terrible damage being irrelevant for chip damage, and the aforementioned speed. Heavy punch is slower, but against opponents who dont have armor, landing it means a free combo, for either meter building with a long combo, or for damage with a super. It’s better used to just mix up the timing of the projectiles than for the reward itself. Light kick projectile covers the area immediately above and in front of Servbot, so it’s great against jump ins, with good push back, while heavy kick projectiles covers jumps pretty much anywhere. Heavy kick specifically pairs well with Roll’s projectile to sort of cover the screen with hitboxes. Spam these projectiles, and if the opponent is next to you, you can either go for sweep into projectile, or launcher for meter and to reset zoning, and if Dan’s available, you can call his assist too. Roll will have a much worse time zoning than servbot, but it’s not impossible. Spamming roll buster really is your only hope, and because you can use it in the air, you can cover any area on the screen with it, or even stall with a super jump. Spamming Dan’s assist becomes vital, without him, Roll’s toast. Her slide can also be surprisingly annoying for the opponent, as it low profiles a lot of attacks, and she can cancel into roll buster on hit for extra damage. Her launcher has bad range, but at least you get way more damage than Servbot could dream of meterlessly. Dan is definitely the hardest of the 3 to master. No usable projectiles whatsoever, so zoning is basically impossible. You’re better off playing defense, going for sweep (its his longest normal), and getting lucky enough to land a launcher or a super (either quarter circle forward or backeard double kick, they have identical damage and speed despite looking different). Even then, you’re better off saving that meter for Servbot to use. If he dies, then it should go to Dan, and if Roll’s by herself, you can only really use her shitty drill super to *maybe* chip out the opponent. Honestly, this team comp is actually more fun to use in arcade mode than in an actual match against another player. But I studied it, out of boredom, and even win sometimes in casual.
What’s crazy is that the woman who originally voiced Jean Grey in the original X-men animated series, voices Storm in the fighting video games. I was so surprised when I looked it up!!
20:47 Honestly, I'm glad you started out with Mega Man as a top tier character. While people like JWong say he's absolute trash, I don't mean any disrespect but when it comes to Marvel 2, you're definitely the voice of reason. I'm not just saying this as a Mega Man fan (though that is a huge part why I main him), I'm also saying this as someone who's been invested in Marvel 2 since the arcade days. Even in one of your earlier videos, you pointed out he has the fastest jab in the game (even faster than Magneto's which can come in handy at the start of the round) and his Buster Shot can easily give Storm a run for her money, even causing preventing her to use her supers if timed correctly. Mega Man definitely has a lot of potential, and I feel like his facets are yet to be explored though there are a few notable Mega Man players such as Thunder Trunks and RockmanLabs but hopefully, more will come along with the re-release of Marvel 2.
Just got into mvc2, it's so fun! I never thought I'd like it I've always been against crazy power levels and too long combos but this has been a very refreshing experience
Nice video but I believe you misspoke about Silver Samurai's best ability. His Ice stance is so damn underrated and the fact he can stack up his power ups is OP because if he stacks 3 or more and goes for his Ice special than that’s GGs also he builds meter easy
I wish instead of including all those different versions of MVC the devs would have just added a second version of MVC2 with a balance patch to make more characters viable. Remove infinites and jank, that sort of thing. That way the old heads would still have the original but also a new version to play with that is built off of the things Capcom has learned about balancing a fighting game.
@@TaskMaster5 I agree man. I know there are plenty of people who love the infinites and game breaking things from all of the years past. But, how cool would it be if everyone's favorite character was valid and they weren't forced to play a meta in order to be viable, let alone competitive. It would just be cool i think
One thing not mentioned on Juggernaut is his oppressive assist, two of them are great at locking down opponents but also do good damage especially with the power up glitch.
Such a helpful take. I had the game and when it blew up I was trying to focus on Tekken. I would hear guys argue about match ups and all that when I was younger here in NYC at CTF. This gives a ton of context behind the arguments lol Made it to the end btw. I'm casual but I wanted to know who I wanted to run if some sweatlord wants to try to bully me at a house party or something. 😅
Great video, got a chance to play MVC on an arcade machine and every time I play it I remember how fun this game is, and MVC2 is even better than MVC, perfect timing for this video lol
I understand why Shuma Gorath is in the Low Tier but he is my favorite character in this game. I use them with Gambit and normally Juggernaut because their three main super attacks chain really well into each other.
I would love to see a video going over what it takes to make a coherent team, for newer players like myself who will be playing for the first time in the re-release
Maaaaaan, everyone's getting so hype about this and trying to get me to play it but seeing almost every character I was interested in playing below even *viable* is just depressing lmao
Many people don't play at a high enough level to stop you from playing who you want. Sent and Magneto often are predictable. There are a lot of MSP copycat scrubs that know one combo and that's it. Once you get experienced, you can play around it more than you think. 🎉
Like Sentinel both Roll and Servbot have combos that only work on them, so because servbot kinda has a niche of a play style I honestly would put roll in a tier below trash. Roll Tier is real.
He forgot to mention Felicia's supers which are pretty good like her sand splash super which puts opponents in the corner, and her please help me super that can be looped in the corner for insane damage.
Spiral is one of my top 3 characters. I'm surprised you didn't mention that she's probably the fastest teleporting character in the game. Very spammable teleport move that lets you essentially dodge most attacks.
I made it to the end of the video. My main squad back in the gap was always Guile, Jill, and either Commando or Akuma, but screw that. Magneto and Storm here i come 😂.
I really want to see a ratio system that differentiates assists. There are clearly many characters who could drop one or more tiers when not using their best assist.
I think yipes and Justin both have ironman over cable now because of the guard break infinite setup and justin also mentioned he thinks storm tech has hit it's peak while sentinels ceiling keeps getting higher and higher so spot 1 might be more contested than ever.
Cable, sentinel, and juggernaut are an unstoppable team. I took many quarters and pride back in the arcade. I dont think I ever lost to anyone or the CPU..
16:06 im a jill player and her slide also combos into her chargin stars super, that slide hit confirm into c.stars saved me plenty times like justin using low mid to sa with chun in 3rd strike
Can't believe you're sleeping on servbot like this
Don’t let up on him Diaphone
We need another 1 week challenge video like y'all did with 3rd strike
facts facts he never grew up with legos T_T
Everyone knows Roll is a secret top tier, everyone just downplays her as a gatekeeping method.
Servbot is funy as hell and I have made many people quit because they thought I was trolling them with his tiny hitbox. Use Spiral on ground type to build meter since she doesn't Need supers, have Servy on the type that fills the screen, and Iceman. Get close with any of the three and force them to block a jab or two then hit the team hyper combo and watch 40-60% of their health get deleted while blocking.
Makes sense that the only Sentinel in a game filled with Mutants would be pretty insane to fight.
and that storm is above because she's actually the sentinel killer in the comics
Are sentinals actually a big deal in the comics? They seem like total jobbers in the media i've experienced minus mvc2
@@cubescastwhen a sentinel appears in the comics someone is bound to die its like a thing all the x-men have accepted
@@cubescast Depends on the story arc. Sentinels go from fodder to apocalyptic Terminator death machines - Typically it requires proximity with Nimrod and Bastion but not always.
@@Maxtor-ve5nureally?
Now we're just waiting for the Dan, Servbot, Roll Only tournament.
That would be such a meme.
Dan was great
lol, someone ALREADY did an arcade playthrough of all three 😂
@@blaized.dagger Yes, it was Justin Wong, it's in his channel
@@gwinbeer word? now you got me wanting to look into the low tier teams heavy lol
10:48 Sabertooth is such a chad that his assist has an assist
Fun fact: Sabretooth’s assist assist, Birdy, existed for an extremely short period in the 90s and was already dead in the comics by her appearance in X-Men vs. Street Fighter. She continued to be dead for all her future assist assist appearances and was only resurrected in 2022. The MvC collection will be her first assist assist appearance while alive.
@@Snickerway Waiting for the Sabretooth assist assist assist
@@Snickerway Yeah, Birdy was such a weird X-character- I think Jim Lee might have had bigger plans for her, but as-is, she was just "Jim wants to draw another hot chick" and she didn't last long after he was gone.
Storm is the perfect character to play mvc2. But goddamn her "OHHH" sound bite is so ear-piercing. 😂
That caused me long-term trauma in X-men: Children of the Atom, as the CPU tended to spam that move.
Folks who made it to the end are the secret toppest tier
Turns out that the true top tiers are the friends we made along the way.
I’m the toppiest tier! Lol
Folks who reads the comment's before watching the full video are the secret top tiers
Youre bottom tier sadly
The sloppiest toppiest
Why you gotta call me Trash Tier Jm? I thought we had something there.
We’re sorry serve bot Frank….
Cringe
@@Ludzigservebot Frank ratio’d you in 2024
Didn't mention my favourite thing about Jin: His comeback mechanic when he's injured as the last man standing.
It kinda suck.
Still sick.
Or his fire taunt!
Hey JM you should know that Scrimblo Bimblo used to dominate my local arcade with Servbot, you just have to learn the character
classic case of someone picking a top tier copy paste comment but not having the execution to make it work.
@@TheEvilCheesecake is a joke bro chill
I was like "ok i know he likes Silver Samurai but is he really putting him up with the gods?" And then reality hit. Thank goodness.
You missed that spider man can hit once with his air lk and then still do anything he wants in the air
He also has an amazing Triangle dash which deserves a lot of cred. He is the mid tier magneto. His mixup game out of air combos will keep your opponent guessing constantly and spider man plays extremely well with teams. Truly one of the most underappreciated characters in the game
Iron Man deserves his placement especially when you LEARNED THE F*CKING INFINITE
I just realized when you call in sabretooth he shows up just to call in birdie 😂
Silver Samurai is pretty close to breaking into top tier. Japan has been doing some crazy stuff with his ice install.
30:39 Silver Samurai's lightning super does Godlike damage to Assists so that kinda fits with where he showed up in the discussion
Marvel vs Capcom 2 has one thing above a lot of fighters. At a casual level, every character is just the right amount of viable. It's one of the rare games I can think of that just about anyone on the roster has something fun to mess around with. The only real issue is that Cable exists, and he's just broken out the gate without needing execution. Anyone who sucks at MVC2 could be viable with basics from Sentinel, Cable, and a good third pick as an assist.
Tbh, i would be cool with an MvC2 Redux mod or something that just levels the playing field a bit, because up until some top and god tiers it seemed actually balanced af
(Also another old game where this is lowkey similar is MBAACC, thankfully all the top tiers require atleast decent neutral sense and most a fuck ton of execution. Which for an indie fighter with escentially 93 characters due yo each having 3 different movesets and game mechanics is fucking impresive)
For Dan, his biggest strength that you didn't mention is his max suicide super (not sure of the translation). Landing the super instantly kills his opponent. Still trash tier but it is his most useful tool if he's close to death and happens to land it on someone
It doesn't instakill, but it _is_ the strongest single move in the game doing 100 damage. It's a good move to get when you need to kill a character, but yeah. Still garbage.
It’s called Path of a Man and actually very useful if you have an assist that can help you land one of the many guaranteed setups that ensure it lands
And it leaves him with 1hp
@@highanglelarry one HP is still enough to dhc in or out with
@@iwazbizywinning6261 no doubt, I was just saying it isn't suicide
A video on common teams and some basic strategies they have and weaknesses would be neat to prepare for what we will likely run into online
I don't even play fighting games, I just love JM's love and enthusiasm for them and I'm totally here for it :)
That's awesome! Hope he sees this.
Everyone checkin just to see if their favorites aren't too bad.
This isn't advice It's just something I hope people do. Be creative. Pick the team you want and then figure out how to make it work. It will keep you interested longer at least in my experience. If you've never played this game or haven't since the arcade days playing Storm, Magneto, Sentinel wont magically make you good at the game. But I'd be interested to see what experienced players think about it.
I hope to see creativity and innovation with new players as well, giving the other characters a chance. IMO the meta of the game is pretty glitchy, lame and not the way it was expected to be played (in an era where updates weren't a thing). People like Maximilian gaslight players, making it look like getting juggled to death because of a bug is FUN. People are about to find out that the game isn't as fun to play as it's to watch when played like this.
I'll be honest, while I'm nowhere near competitive level, I absolutely love using shuma gorath as a rush down point character. His petrification (down +hk) seems to drop him from some infinites. Also, he has a much smaller hit box when crouching vs crouching with block. Have worked out my own combo with him that seems to have infinite potential (I've managed multiple chains, but never quite get it right to keep it going all the way) and it fills his meter fast to get that 3 bar chaos dimension
Loved this tier list, for such a huge roster you talked every character fast and to the point, really easy to watch
Adamantium Wolverine speeding up makes no sense. Because adamantium adds a huge weight to his body so the normal skeleton version should be a lot faster...
Tell me you’ve never played the game without telling me
@@setsunagoh lol you cannot read
I agree
My favorite thing about BB Hood is the fact that half her moves are the typical fairy tale character moves you'll expect and the other half is the typical American citizen
hits home once you learn her lore
as a gun toting american, i have to ask, have you seen the majority of our citizens? they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paperbag let alone put the safety on a pistol.
Charlie is misplaced too… he’s got damage for days without ever using meter. Builds meter like crazy. Six.crescent kick is an amaaazing tool. Very underappreciated
Not to mention he says you can’t combo into his supers. You absolutely can combo into his flashkick super.
Love this kind of content! I can tell this was from someone with a fairly high amount of experience and knowledge of the game. I learned and relearned quite a bit from it. Would love to see more rankings/tier lists for other games such as classic GG games, KoF games, Melty games, and BB games.
Every time I see someone bury Servebot, then play against Servebot, Servebot buries them and they're like "BWUH?!"
Poor Cap lol. I'll try my best to figure it out. At least Blackheart is decent.
24:59 if the opponent doesn't roll the player can use Cammy to start the combo over again, if they dash towards the opponent. It maybe less damage on the restart but, a hit is a hit and made it to the end of the video.
Cammy forced you to tech roll. You didn't and she had a bar you were just gonna go for the ride all over again. So there was a mind game there too, which way to roll.
Low tier- dont have combos or assists
Mid tier- has either a combo or assist
High tier- is actually a character that works.
The most beloved fighting game of all time folks!
Don't forget the mix-ups each character can do - most of the cast is not good at opening up the opponent.
The lower tiers work, the uppers just have more obvious options. They “literally” fly first class.
people dont love fighting games for their balance, they love them because theyre fun
And the god tier which apparently literally forces the other player to be unable to play the game unless they're also playing a god tier character and even then oftentimes if they get hit a single time games over
@@rapidrobby Wrong here - A great fighting game is a balanced one. I despise "tiers". There should only be one tier.
Idk about servbot, I saw this one video where a servbot just ran and blocked while spamming juggernaut and guile assist, seemed pretty god tier to me.
So you're saying... you could do that with any character? Running and blocking
The idea is that Servbot has an extremely small hitbox. @@CloudianMH
Feeling really good about my Gambit, Cyclops, Storm X Men team right now.🎉
Servbot has my computer background and discord icon for almost 10 years. I dont care if he is bad ill give him my best shot
I never knew we were both Illinoisans!
I know 90% of people are going to play MVC2, but if you're interested, I'd really love for you to rank the other games in the collection too. Controversial opinion...I'm more of a Marvel 1 fan over Marvel 2.
Marvel 1 is a lot more balanced and it has better music and art, so it's really not that controversial of an opinion.
25:17 Cammy's assist goes through energy attacks as well.
Made it to the end!!! Love that anakaris and Dhalism climbed the tiers in your opinion. Love that storm is above sentinel too
under B.B Hoods skirt is a minefield.
Actually, under B.B Hoods skirt is a one-way ticket to fucking jail.
When you thought unblockable was the scariest type of move, then unavoidable walks into the room...
As a non-FGC player who just finds stuff like this fascinating, I thought to myself at the beginning "Oh it would be fun to have a true Marvel vs Capcom, like have a tournament where half the players only play Marvel and half only play Capcom and they battle each other. I now see how comical of a blowout that would be.
Rogue power drain is one of her better tools. Let's her berak open people that turtle and on a cross up dive kick in the corner she gets a free air combo.
Also depending on who you are fighting it gives different temp power ups that open up some fun options.
What's cooler is that some characters give her different power depending on state. Examples being Captain America with or without shield gives power and speed respectively, Silver Samurai varios mode changes give different powers, and she can steal special states of some charcters like Colossus super armor state, Jin's desperation state and others.
Makes her fun to mess around with cause who you fight can change your strategy.
I actually didn't know that you live in Chicago. I got into anime fighters from Smash with DBFZ, and your videos on the game were a massive resource to me, I've been watching since. Cool to know that you've been nearby all these years, cheers!
I loved this game and children of the atom in the arcade.
Literally watched your vid learning the ROM combo today, and here you are doing it during this vid on (what looks like) the first take!
I have no idea how many times I watched your mvc2 7-point tier list. I'll probly watch this even more.
LOL That Silver Samurai God Tier bait is real. Made it all the way to the end and the jebaits!
Other Characteristics:
*Heavy* *Characters:* Hulk, Juggernaut, Sentinel, Mecha Zangief?. Won't be as airborne from certain attacks from the opponent.
*Chip* *Damage* *On* *Regular* *Attacks:* Jin, Hulk, Sentinel. Most or all attacks perform chip damage.
I don't hear much about the unique traits that lies within this game.
Thx for mentioning the juggernaut glitch maybe not being in the collection 😢frikkin crime
Power UP
Guile is surprisingly strong against sent. You dont have to charge his flash kick in the air and it has a gigantic projectile that knocks sent out of the air. So if you super jump and immediately flash kick then it keeps sent out of the air
I used to play Marvel VS Capcom 2 with my older brother when we were young. Now, he's 35 and I'm 30.
I’ve never played an MVC game but this was still a fun watch! I love Roll as a character so I’ll probably wind up playing her despite her tier placement XD
20:07 Fun fact, you can Tiger Knee Omega Red’s Carbonadium Smasher super, which increases combo potential. Just end your QFC +2xpunch movement with ↗️ up forward as soon as you leave the ground.
If I say "low-tiers only" and someone rolls up with Ruby Heart or Colossus, I'm leaving the lobby
The only reason why you don’t see servbot in tournaments is because it’s quietly agreed on that he is too overpowered
Tier lists be damned, I'm still gonna play Sabretooth because watching him slam Servebot into the ground with his grab will always be funny.
I would kill for an optional balance patch in the upcoming rerelease
enjoyed the vid as always man!
About time you gave Anakaris his respect
I honestly feel like Ruby Heart is very viable in competitive play especially since how not many people play her so theres alot of hidden tech that can be discovered with her. Shes such a super underrated character and i may be biased since shes my main but i always seen her potential
I do think Ruby has a lot of hidden potential, just needs a Duc Do-like player to unearth it.
Ruby actually has an infinite, it does require a bit of practice but she doesn't need assists to do it. Should you drop the combo, you can recover safely and try again.
Ruby's crouching hk is a great control tool. It's deceptively fast, and can hit mutiple characters at once. You can stop supers and almost all assists. It can be hard to get combos off of it without assists though; and it isn't really spamable, but it can also let you crouch lower during the attack animation (similar to sonson's crawl move).
Ruby also has a glitch! It involves her qcf move. If you do the normal version to it's limit, then the super version to it's limit, while going up to the top of the screen as much as possible, you might "exit" the stage for 10 seconds (leaves the world) . However I managed to pull this off on the dreamcast version; not sure about the other versions.
How bad is Roll?
I can't tell you anything about how to play MvC2 and yet I still know that Roll is the worst.
That should tell you something.
I assume.
With the re-release I was hoping someone made this exact video. Salute, sir.
13:07 That Felicia grab does great damage, however I believe there's also a bug where it gives the opponent much more meter than they're supposed to on hit.
watched all the way to the end. Trying to learn this game, and knowing where characters place helps me know where to start
to anyone new as someone who's been casually playing my entire life, be sure to just experiment and play characters that you actually like! Like Venom as a character? Play Venom etc! I play mostly mids but I don't mind cause I love the characters I play :)
Seriously thought you were going to put Silver Samurai in God tier for some bizarre reason.
Dhalsim is underrated imo. I think the fact he can call assists from super jump height and stall at the time similar to storm while having that magneto speed is very valuable. His biggest issues imo is that he is hard to execute and he is pretty picky about who he teams up with imo.
So I ended up learning how to play the worst team comp in MvC2: Servbot, Roll, Dan.
So, these characters are absolutely terrible, but they all have redeeming qualities… barely. Servbot’s Balance Super really is good, it’s literally free damage for just one bar. The downside is that the assist is too small and weak to do anything other than extremely niche pressure mixups. Roll’s projectile assist is bad, but at least its slow and deals damage, which is honestly good enough in this comp. And Dan’s anti-air assist is actually really good when he gets invulnerability on it, deals good damage, and covers a wide area.
Generally, the gameplan for me went like this: If Servbot’s the point character, zone out the enemy to build meter with Roll and Dan assists. Roll is for the decent damage on hit and the chip damage, while Dan is used when the opponent closes in on Servbot. Servbot himself has 4 projectiles that, while terrible, are unique enough to create a bit of a mental stack on an opponent that’s unable to handle it. Light punch projectile is his absolute fastest, and it’s honestly just as good on block as it is on hit, because of the terrible damage being irrelevant for chip damage, and the aforementioned speed. Heavy punch is slower, but against opponents who dont have armor, landing it means a free combo, for either meter building with a long combo, or for damage with a super. It’s better used to just mix up the timing of the projectiles than for the reward itself. Light kick projectile covers the area immediately above and in front of Servbot, so it’s great against jump ins, with good push back, while heavy kick projectiles covers jumps pretty much anywhere. Heavy kick specifically pairs well with Roll’s projectile to sort of cover the screen with hitboxes. Spam these projectiles, and if the opponent is next to you, you can either go for sweep into projectile, or launcher for meter and to reset zoning, and if Dan’s available, you can call his assist too.
Roll will have a much worse time zoning than servbot, but it’s not impossible. Spamming roll buster really is your only hope, and because you can use it in the air, you can cover any area on the screen with it, or even stall with a super jump. Spamming Dan’s assist becomes vital, without him, Roll’s toast. Her slide can also be surprisingly annoying for the opponent, as it low profiles a lot of attacks, and she can cancel into roll buster on hit for extra damage. Her launcher has bad range, but at least you get way more damage than Servbot could dream of meterlessly.
Dan is definitely the hardest of the 3 to master. No usable projectiles whatsoever, so zoning is basically impossible. You’re better off playing defense, going for sweep (its his longest normal), and getting lucky enough to land a launcher or a super (either quarter circle forward or backeard double kick, they have identical damage and speed despite looking different). Even then, you’re better off saving that meter for Servbot to use. If he dies, then it should go to Dan, and if Roll’s by herself, you can only really use her shitty drill super to *maybe* chip out the opponent.
Honestly, this team comp is actually more fun to use in arcade mode than in an actual match against another player. But I studied it, out of boredom, and even win sometimes in casual.
What’s crazy is that the woman who originally voiced Jean Grey in the original X-men animated series, voices Storm in the fighting video games. I was so surprised when I looked it up!!
20:47 Honestly, I'm glad you started out with Mega Man as a top tier character. While people like JWong say he's absolute trash, I don't mean any disrespect but when it comes to Marvel 2, you're definitely the voice of reason.
I'm not just saying this as a Mega Man fan (though that is a huge part why I main him), I'm also saying this as someone who's been invested in Marvel 2 since the arcade days. Even in one of your earlier videos, you pointed out he has the fastest jab in the game (even faster than Magneto's which can come in handy at the start of the round) and his Buster Shot can easily give Storm a run for her money, even causing preventing her to use her supers if timed correctly.
Mega Man definitely has a lot of potential, and I feel like his facets are yet to be explored though there are a few notable Mega Man players such as Thunder Trunks and RockmanLabs but hopefully, more will come along with the re-release of Marvel 2.
Should’ve also mentioned the insane damage that Felicia’s Please Help Me! super does.
Just got into mvc2, it's so fun! I never thought I'd like it I've always been against crazy power levels and too long combos but this has been a very refreshing experience
Nice video but I believe you misspoke about Silver Samurai's best ability. His Ice stance is so damn underrated and the fact he can stack up his power ups is OP because if he stacks 3 or more and goes for his Ice special than that’s GGs also he builds meter easy
Sakura does have a hadouken but it's angled upwards and has trash range lol. It's just hadouken backwards (:
Cpt Commando was severly unerrated. easy short combos into super that does a lot of damage.
I wish instead of including all those different versions of MVC the devs would have just added a second version of MVC2 with a balance patch to make more characters viable. Remove infinites and jank, that sort of thing. That way the old heads would still have the original but also a new version to play with that is built off of the things Capcom has learned about balancing a fighting game.
Honestly, even if they just introduced the Ratio Mode fans made over the years would be a fun change of pace overall.
@@TaskMaster5 I agree man. I know there are plenty of people who love the infinites and game breaking things from all of the years past. But, how cool would it be if everyone's favorite character was valid and they weren't forced to play a meta in order to be viable, let alone competitive. It would just be cool i think
One thing not mentioned on Juggernaut is his oppressive assist, two of them are great at locking down opponents but also do good damage especially with the power up glitch.
JM, now might be the time for a ratio system intro and Tournament highlight video
Such a helpful take.
I had the game and when it blew up I was trying to focus on Tekken. I would hear guys argue about match ups and all that when I was younger here in NYC at CTF.
This gives a ton of context behind the arguments lol
Made it to the end btw. I'm casual but I wanted to know who I wanted to run if some sweatlord wants to try to bully me at a house party or something. 😅
W video, this one probably gonna hold up for a long time unless people end up finding some new cool stuff in the collection
You should’ve mentioned JWong’s point system of putting out a team With Roll famously being worth 0 points😂
Great video, got a chance to play MVC on an arcade machine and every time I play it I remember how fun this game is, and MVC2 is even better than MVC, perfect timing for this video lol
Wow I haven’t played this game since laundry mat days . I’m psyched to play again as a casual gamer without having to get rolls of quarters.
I understand why Shuma Gorath is in the Low Tier but he is my favorite character in this game. I use them with Gambit and normally Juggernaut because their three main super attacks chain really well into each other.
Very informative video, especially in the mid to low to tier area.
No one is gonna stop me from using Serbot
I would love to see a video going over what it takes to make a coherent team, for newer players like myself who will be playing for the first time in the re-release
Maaaaaan, everyone's getting so hype about this and trying to get me to play it but seeing almost every character I was interested in playing below even *viable* is just depressing lmao
Many people don't play at a high enough level to stop you from playing who you want. Sent and Magneto often are predictable. There are a lot of MSP copycat scrubs that know one combo and that's it. Once you get experienced, you can play around it more than you think. 🎉
21:10 yess i was hoping you'd use anakaris curse's team for this
I use Servbot on my profile cause I love him. I don't care if he sucks. It'll just make me feel better, and you feel worse, when I win
...wait did you just say they took out the juggernaut power up glitch? Oh man thats horrible if its true!
Like Sentinel both Roll and Servbot have combos that only work on them, so because servbot kinda has a niche of a play style I honestly would put roll in a tier below trash. Roll Tier is real.
Felicia not being low is awesome
Also shocked that Zangief is not low, guess I misjudged him
He forgot to mention Felicia's supers which are pretty good like her sand splash super which puts opponents in the corner, and her please help me super that can be looped in the corner for insane damage.
made it to the end amazing breakdown! Thanks for taking the time and putting in the work!
You said Tron Bonne right this time lol. I remember the Marvel 3 video you did a while back you called her "Tron Bone" 😂
I really hope they don't patch the Juggernaut super that's iconic as hell 😭😭
Spiral is one of my top 3 characters. I'm surprised you didn't mention that she's probably the fastest teleporting character in the game. Very spammable teleport move that lets you essentially dodge most attacks.
I made it to the end of the video. My main squad back in the gap was always Guile, Jill, and either Commando or Akuma, but screw that. Magneto and Storm here i come 😂.
I really want to see a ratio system that differentiates assists. There are clearly many characters who could drop one or more tiers when not using their best assist.
Storm is the supreme you’re so right
I think yipes and Justin both have ironman over cable now because of the guard break infinite setup and justin also mentioned he thinks storm tech has hit it's peak while sentinels ceiling keeps getting higher and higher so spot 1 might be more contested than ever.
I know my Team will be
Spider-Man
Ken
And Megaman
We finna go crazy
Cable, sentinel, and juggernaut are an unstoppable team. I took many quarters and pride back in the arcade. I dont think I ever lost to anyone or the CPU..
You want to play as the most damaging team?
Try *Cable + Iron Man + War Machine*
(select Projectile Type for all three)
16:06 im a jill player and her slide also combos into her chargin stars super, that slide hit confirm into c.stars saved me plenty times like justin using low mid to sa with chun in 3rd strike