i SERIOUSLY respect that intro you gave man. you manage to show a wider issue through YOUR unique lens in a succinct and completely non pretentious way. super thoughtful words, great work dude!!!
I saw Brian Blade with Wayne Shorter. The back and forth between him and John Patitucci was just absolutely mind blowing. I saw Tain at the Village Vanguard. He was so good, I went back the second night. I saw Marcus Gilmore with Chick Corea. He's just disgustingly good. He really stood out. But the modern guy that just absolutely floored me when I first heard him was Antonio Sanchez. I'd never heard anyone play or sound like him before that. Incredible drummer, musician and a really nice, humble guy.
Thanks Nate! Thanks for the memorial, thanks for the introduction to some new sounds(for me), thanks for the list of links and thanks for bringing great content to YT!! Peace✌
Thanks, this great. When I was a young boy I was into Jazz Fusion via R&B in the 80's. It took a while to get into Jazz even though I could appreciate it. It wasn't until I heard Wynton's debut album that I became an instant fan of Jeff "Tain" Watts. My favourite of his playing is on "Knozz-Moe-King" from Wynton's "Think Of One" album. All the dynamics, the 'phat' kit sound, the production and his ability to Listen and Respond was a masterclass for any student. Legacy cemented.
New set up👍 I mainly listen hard rock and metal. Easy to follow on drums. Jazz drumming is like trying to play Yngwie coming from an acoustic guitar! So much much more dynamics.
Bill Stewart's left foot can play circles around all of my limbs. -Really nice explanation between the spanning generations of drummers, too, thank you!
Love your channel. I love that you don't have £10k's worth of the latest drums all professionally miked up and eq'd to perfection!! I feel those types of channel will frustrrate newer and younger drummers who's kit's sound nothing like them!!
Well it was as good as i thought, so satisfying to hear you put into words and pictures what i love to think about myself but you do it so well i just wish it could have been longer, to explore it even deeper would be amazing. Tains my dessert island drummer and even have a rocktagon to remind me of that. You give me so much to think about and other music to listen too and i really apreciate it. Yplaying a big part in my sons life too. When he is in the bath ( and my partner is at the gym ) i pretend that both nate smiths pop round to try my drum kit out and he loves it. It gives me an excuse to practice a bit. Thanks.
Great list. A lot of stuff to go listen to here. I gotta bookmark this one! lol. But I felt like Dave King expanded my concept of what drums could do. Also, shout out to a personal fave, Scott Amendola from the Bay Area.
totally agree with your opinion and choice to do an entire video about Billy Cobrahm's (mahavishnu early era specifically) contributions to jazz/fusion and influence as well as his very unique "goofy handed" - left handed on a right kit, with a dominant left hand style. 😂 😉
And how about some love for our European brothers?! Han Bennink, Paul Loevens, Tony Oxley, Jon Christensen, Paal Nielssen-Love, Gard Nielssen, Phil Seaman, Michal Miskiewicz... and my favourite UA-cam drummer no one has ever heard of, Franco Dal Monego.
Gentlemen quick question, who was with great late Roy Hargrove.on drums with his avant-garde band quintet. Last I seen was seattle,s jazz scene Dimitry,s
Great list of drummers! In the past three decades, I think drumming has been the biggest change in jazz. We haven't seen much in the way of new harmonic language, but rhythms have evolved.
I think (sorry for being negative here) that the stagnation or ossification of jazz is one of the reasons why jazz has shrunk in popularity. Rhythm can change a bit because it really isn't paid attention to as much by the gatekeepers. But, as I indicated in other comments, it's a rediscovery process moreso than a new approach. That's good, because at least the music is breaking self imposed barriers-but it's got a long way to go to reclaim lost ground.
By the way, please don't take my comments as a criticism about what you are trying to do with your UA-cam channel or your educational endeavors. I think you are doing a great job in promoting and guiding drummers. I was just really upset by what I personally saw as jazz being turned into a set form, treating it like a classical form (when it already was a classical form) afraid of change. Drummers can lead the way to freeing jazz to a more explosively exploratory form that is constantly pushing forward. I have guarded optimism for the future, so I want to end my observations on a positive note.
Thanks as always! A lot of interesting concepts in this one and really gives the viewer a lot to explore. I'm curious if Justin Faulkner was considered at all?
Thank you for your opening comments about race and American music. So essential to take into account if we want progress. Once again, the arts community can be leaders in the struggle for black lives. Peace......
What about Nate Smith? He combines several types of jazz into his playing with lots of tempo changes without losing the overall feel of the tune, which makes it very interesting and exciting to hear.
nice to hear mention of Nate and Kneebody, bass played with some other fantastic players in a similar band in the early 90's, with another fantastic drummer mark raynes, too bad that band cornbread is not to be found on youtube
great video and also my favorite you tube channel and im a below average stoner doom classic rock metal guitar player .who still wishes his mom didn't take away his favorite snoopy drum and make me play grampas acoustic guitar . thank you 80/20 for taking the time to do these videos smile . id rather be a drummer
Nate I'm am truly Blown away with your observation in detail and your passion for the art and instrument you are a treasure for sure. Yes these young lions have added to and invented a new voice rhythm and vibe, Kendrick Scott Is a monster but here are some you may know or not I'm very old school Hell at 69 playing 60 years professionally 52 of them I seen and heard some exceptional drummers as now with Gregory Porter Emanual Harold Liston to Work Song from the Lowlands and Andy Fisenden from England going back and forth Roy Brooks Michael Carvin my mentor Mickey Roker with Bags and Check out OLINGA the Steel Bender the Metal Mender I'm not so sure just incredible His Funk Syncopation so tight yet it even swings, amazing then young cat from my neck of the woods Ritchie Barshay with the Dan Teper Trio but even better with Herbie Hancock and Hartfords Ct own Larry Dinatale who with his Beautiful Wife Connie are Legends here but check Larry out with Brad Mehldau ,Steve Davis and Larrys Defining Master work playing Giant Steps with Kenny Garrett at a blinding tempo RJ DeLorso Jr with Jackie McLean Rene McLean Nat Reeves Cecil Hotep Galata at jazz workshop just Mind Blowing Several others Ill ger back to you about just to share our Passion and other Musicians All the very very best
But I did grow up with Harvey Mason. Although not covered in this video, I think he was the drummer who changed traditional jazz fusion on drums forever when he performed with many years with great jazz guitarist, George Benson, in the mid-1970s onward.
Also, I know there’s a school of thought that credits Johnny Vidacovich with bridging the New Orleans trad approach with modern concepts in a way that is pretty influential.
Look out for Kweku Sumbry, he just graduated from the New School and is already playing with some pretty big cats. Very Harland-influenced style, but definitely with his own personality
if fusion drummers tried to incorporate a rock sound or feel i don't hear a difference between post-fusion jazz drummers and pre-fusion jazz drummers. i saw bill stewart play with sylvian luc in a neighboring village/town once, here in Ireland....no, wrong, it was andre c. playing with luc and stewart was playing with wolfgang Muthspiel.
Nate's a cool cat. First met him in a California Guitar Center drum off in the early 90s. I'm like, who's this teenage hippie playing barefoot? Oh how he quickly bloomed.
Good video, useful analysis! Don't mean to get overly pedantic, ultimately there are too many great players to talk about, but.....what about Nasheet??
But Bill himself says about his click sound, It came out of nessecity. His old K was to him too washy, he found this sound cutting through the wash when he needed clearer time information for the band
I don't think your video was tone deaf at all. Sometimes people come to your videos to escape the hell they live in. No need to mention. At a concert I saw with Wooten, Chambers and Franceschini, Wooten said, " I know a lot of people don't agree with whats happening in politics. I was talking about it one day to my brother and he said' Do you know who was king when Mozart was alive? Of course not, you're a musician and that's how you influence'." I felt that was very uplifting really. We are not politicians, lawyers, etc. We are musicians, and that's what we bring to the world!
Jazz musicians carry a heavy burden of building upon a musical foundation of rejection and moving the music forward to places were it will certainly be misunderstood by some of its own peers. But within this struggle these same musicians,composers and arrangers hope to become a voice or song to those who hear their beauty through the sacrifice. My prayer is for those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, may they be filled.
So does the other Nate Smith fit into this list at all? Or is he less game changing and more just really damn good? lol. Also do you have a list of jazz records that every drummer should listen too?
i SERIOUSLY respect that intro you gave man. you manage to show a wider issue through YOUR unique lens in a succinct and completely non pretentious way.
super thoughtful words, great work dude!!!
sussvarman Ditto
I saw Brian Blade with Wayne Shorter. The back and forth between him and John Patitucci was just absolutely mind blowing. I saw Tain at the Village Vanguard. He was so good, I went back the second night. I saw Marcus Gilmore with Chick Corea. He's just disgustingly good. He really stood out. But the modern guy that just absolutely floored me when I first heard him was Antonio Sanchez. I'd never heard anyone play or sound like him before that. Incredible drummer, musician and a really nice, humble guy.
Excellent intro Nate. Thanks for saying it so well!
What a wonderful appreciation at this moment. Well-done!
Thanks Nate! Thanks for the memorial, thanks for the introduction to some new sounds(for me), thanks for the list of links and thanks for bringing great content to YT!! Peace✌
Fricking love this channel
Thanks, this great. When I was a young boy I was into Jazz Fusion via R&B in the 80's. It took a while to get into Jazz even though I could appreciate it. It wasn't until I heard Wynton's debut album that I became an instant fan of Jeff "Tain" Watts. My favourite of his playing is on "Knozz-Moe-King" from Wynton's "Think Of One" album.
All the dynamics, the 'phat' kit sound, the production and his ability to Listen and Respond was a masterclass for any student. Legacy cemented.
You are a beautiful soul and a dope teacher. I’m really glad that there are musicians that aren’t just skipping this over.
Unlike many other youtube drum teachers, this guy knows the music well. By the way, I fully agree with number one.
Some nice thoughts, man. That Gretsch kit looked gorgeous as well🙂
Great stuff.. Really enjoyed this vid. Nate nails it every time.. Gotta love his humor, passion and knowledge
Dude, your videos are so inspiring as of late. And the shownotes thing helps a lot!
I loved the demonstrations - great to see and hear. Also, nice work on being mindful and paying thoughtful respect with this solid list. Nicely done
"next generation" for me is Kweku Sumbry and Jeremy Dutton etc.
even obed calvaire
@@blinkbeatbox4582 💯 the best
Thank you Cedar sharing those Players I never had the pleasure to hear or see I Love our Drummer Brotherhood
Beautiful video, this one. Great way of getting the message across.
New set up👍
I mainly listen hard rock and metal. Easy to follow on drums. Jazz drumming is like trying to play Yngwie coming from an acoustic guitar! So much much more dynamics.
This just popped up so can't wait to watch it in a bit, glad to see tains face in there as he certainly changed my playing.
Bill Stewart's left foot can play circles around all of my limbs.
-Really nice explanation between the spanning generations of drummers, too, thank you!
Beautiful first 3 minutes! ✊ My respect! 🙌
I fucking love you sharing music. I have so much to listen to. Take me down a jazz hole anytime
Love your channel.
I love that you don't have £10k's worth of the latest drums all professionally miked up and eq'd to perfection!!
I feel those types of channel will frustrrate newer and younger drummers who's kit's sound nothing like them!!
Such a great video!! Thanks for sharing! So much hard work put into this
i’m super surprised Ari Hoenig didn’t make this list
I thought the same but the list was very good as well. Ari's version of Moanin blew me away.
I was gonna say the same thing
one of my fav vids you have done, thanks for all the music to check out
Every song played in this video is amazing
Great Video. One I'll definitely watch multiple times
Right now, I needed this.Thankyou for refreshing my compass...again...right in the middle of making an album...dohhh!
I was thinking the same, Hoenig deserves a spot. Great entertaining and teaching lesson, I'll listen to those records which I did not know. Grazie
Great feature. Thanks for this 👌🏽🥁
More power to you! Thank you for this.
Well it was as good as i thought, so satisfying to hear you put into words and pictures what i love to think about myself but you do it so well i just wish it could have been longer, to explore it even deeper would be amazing. Tains my dessert island drummer and even have a rocktagon to remind me of that. You give me so much to think about and other music to listen too and i really apreciate it. Yplaying a big part in my sons life too. When he is in the bath ( and my partner is at the gym ) i pretend that both nate smiths pop round to try my drum kit out and he loves it. It gives me an excuse to practice a bit. Thanks.
thanks for the links!
Great list. A lot of stuff to go listen to here. I gotta bookmark this one! lol. But I felt like Dave King expanded my concept of what drums could do. Also, shout out to a personal fave, Scott Amendola from the Bay Area.
Joey Baron? Gerald Cleaver? Gerry Hemingway? Ari Hoenig? Clarence Penn? Ralph Peterson? Vinnie Colaiuta? Chad Wackerman? Dafnis Prieto?
Clarence is actually in the video 🤣🤣
still love your work!!
Great video! Thanks!
Many thanks for the mellow.
totally agree with your opinion and choice to do an entire video about Billy Cobrahm's (mahavishnu early era specifically) contributions to jazz/fusion and influence as well as his very unique "goofy handed" - left handed on a right kit, with a dominant left hand style.
😂 😉
Excellent video, surprised Justin Brown wasn't mentioned though
Thank you for the added perspective!
Jazz facing so hard I got cramps on my face. What a group of artists.
Keith Carlock, i think he also influenced modern jazz drumming.
And how about some love for our European brothers?!
Han Bennink, Paul Loevens, Tony Oxley, Jon Christensen, Paal Nielssen-Love, Gard Nielssen, Phil Seaman, Michal Miskiewicz... and my favourite UA-cam drummer no one has ever heard of, Franco Dal Monego.
Gentlemen quick question, who was with great late Roy Hargrove.on drums with his avant-garde band quintet. Last I seen was seattle,s jazz scene Dimitry,s
Great list of drummers! In the past three decades, I think drumming has been the biggest change in jazz. We haven't seen much in the way of new harmonic language, but rhythms have evolved.
Absolutely right! That and sound ...
I think (sorry for being negative here) that the stagnation or ossification of jazz is one of the reasons why jazz has shrunk in popularity. Rhythm can change a bit because it really isn't paid attention to as much by the gatekeepers. But, as I indicated in other comments, it's a rediscovery process moreso than a new approach. That's good, because at least the music is breaking self imposed barriers-but it's got a long way to go to reclaim lost ground.
By the way, please don't take my comments as a criticism about what you are trying to do with your UA-cam channel or your educational endeavors. I think you are doing a great job in promoting and guiding drummers. I was just really upset by what I personally saw as jazz being turned into a set form, treating it like a classical form (when it already was a classical form) afraid of change. Drummers can lead the way to freeing jazz to a more explosively exploratory form that is constantly pushing forward.
I have guarded optimism for the future, so I want to end my observations on a positive note.
Great video!!
I like to think music has played it's part over the years in breaking down racial barriers!!
Only a guy from NEw York could put a list like that together, thank you jazz sensi !!
Yo Nate that video was soooo goooood!!!!!
Thanks buddy! Hope all's good with you :):)
Wow thanks so much.
Absolutely agreed
It is inexcusable to forget Ari Hoenig.
How would you assess Joey Baron?
Steve Lyman is definitely part of the next gen. His technique blows me away every time I watch him.
Yeah, but I've never been moved by the guys playing.
Great channel, bro. Keep charging on. Jazz knows no racial boundaries.
Thanks as always! A lot of interesting concepts in this one and really gives the viewer a lot to explore. I'm curious if Justin Faulkner was considered at all?
Great Video!! Thanks. And You play super cool!!
I'm curious,Is the Tain solo clip from the "Bloomington" record with Branford?
Thank you for your opening comments about race and American music. So essential to take into account if we want progress. Once again, the arts community can be leaders in the struggle for black lives. Peace......
What about Nate Smith? He combines several types of jazz into his playing with lots of tempo changes without losing the overall feel of the tune, which makes it very interesting and exciting to hear.
He's on the Crossover video that @80/20 Drummer created.
Spot on!
I must say that the kick drum you’re using has a low buzz so bad that it distracts from the kick you’re trying to demonstrate.
nice to hear mention of Nate and Kneebody, bass played with some other fantastic players in a similar band in the early 90's, with another fantastic drummer mark raynes, too bad that band cornbread is not to be found on youtube
Amazing list
Bill is the best!!
Nate wood and marcus gilmore had my jaw on the floor the first time I heard them both play
Shout out also to Billy Martian of MMW
His playing is arguably my fav style of the jazz scene from the 90s
Dude is an alien, am I right?
great video and also my favorite you tube channel and im a below average stoner doom classic rock metal guitar player .who still wishes his mom didn't take away his favorite snoopy drum and make me play grampas acoustic guitar . thank you 80/20 for taking the time to do these videos smile . id rather be a drummer
Well done!
Great list!
Dave King would have been lovely! Great vid thooooooooo =)
what is it playing at 18:22?
🙌🏻art moves mountains. bless up for the intent here.
Nate I'm am truly Blown away with your observation in detail and your passion for the art and instrument you are a treasure for sure. Yes these young lions have added to and invented a new voice rhythm and vibe, Kendrick Scott Is a monster but here are some you may know or not I'm very old school Hell at 69 playing 60 years professionally 52 of them I seen and heard some exceptional drummers as now with Gregory Porter Emanual Harold Liston to Work Song from the Lowlands and Andy Fisenden from England going back and forth Roy Brooks Michael Carvin my mentor Mickey Roker with Bags and Check out OLINGA the Steel Bender the Metal Mender I'm not so sure just incredible His Funk Syncopation so tight yet it even swings, amazing then young cat from my neck of the woods Ritchie Barshay with the Dan Teper Trio but even better with Herbie Hancock and Hartfords Ct own Larry Dinatale who with his Beautiful Wife Connie are Legends here but check Larry out with Brad Mehldau ,Steve Davis and Larrys Defining Master work playing Giant Steps with Kenny Garrett at a blinding tempo RJ DeLorso Jr with Jackie McLean Rene McLean Nat Reeves Cecil Hotep Galata at jazz workshop just Mind Blowing Several others Ill ger back to you about just to share our Passion and other Musicians All the very very best
But I did grow up with Harvey Mason. Although not covered in this video, I think he was the drummer who changed traditional jazz fusion on drums forever when he performed with many years with great jazz guitarist, George Benson, in the mid-1970s onward.
Brian Blade is a genius!
Awesome! What’s the Terrence Blanchard tune where Kendrick goes for it?!
Linked in the description, along with every tune from the video ;)
No Sanchez?
Nasheet Waits gotta be there
Tyshawn Sorey!!
Also, I know there’s a school of thought that credits Johnny Vidacovich with bridging the New Orleans trad approach with modern concepts in a way that is pretty influential.
Look out for Kweku Sumbry, he just graduated from the New School and is already playing with some pretty big cats. Very Harland-influenced style, but definitely with his own personality
CRAZY!
if fusion drummers tried to incorporate a rock sound or feel i don't hear a difference between post-fusion jazz drummers and pre-fusion jazz drummers. i saw bill stewart play with sylvian luc in a neighboring village/town once, here in Ireland....no, wrong, it was andre c. playing with luc and stewart was playing with wolfgang Muthspiel.
Well done...well said
Nate's a cool cat. First met him in a California Guitar Center drum off in the early 90s. I'm like, who's this teenage hippie playing barefoot? Oh how he quickly bloomed.
Good video, useful analysis! Don't mean to get overly pedantic, ultimately there are too many great players to talk about, but.....what about Nasheet??
Mama Juke one of my very favorites. Did two videos about him
hey dude... where is Hoenig? :D
Great tutorial
By, "the Bill Stewart cup cymbal thing", do you mean where you sort of cup your hand with your grip to get that very "stick" cymbal sound?
No, he plays a cup cymbal.
But Bill himself says about his click sound, It came out of nessecity. His old K was to him too washy, he found this sound cutting through the wash when he needed clearer time information for the band
Hutch🤟🏻
Can you tell my tune name on 9:38
I don't think your video was tone deaf at all. Sometimes people come to your videos to escape the hell they live in. No need to mention. At a concert I saw with Wooten, Chambers and Franceschini, Wooten said, " I know a lot of people don't agree with whats happening in politics. I was talking about it one day to my brother and he said' Do you know who was king when Mozart was alive? Of course not, you're a musician and that's how you influence'."
I felt that was very uplifting really. We are not politicians, lawyers, etc. We are musicians, and that's what we bring to the world!
Frederick the Great ... sorry had to do it , but i love the true point of your post. cheers
Hey Nate would you mind saying what's that outro music you used?
Jazz musicians carry a heavy burden of building upon a musical foundation of rejection and moving the music forward to places were it will certainly be misunderstood by some of its own peers. But within this struggle these same musicians,composers and arrangers hope to become a voice or song to those who hear their beauty through the sacrifice. My prayer is for those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, may they be filled.
Also very cool drumming from you!
I wanna see the gear review! Also I think your videos that focus on jazz playing are more convincing. You seem more relaxed playing that genre.
Nice list! But what about Jorge Rossy
You Play Very Nice Bro..!
seems like the more we go into todays drummers we get.. the more it is about teh amount of notes
Wow.
Buen trabajo,,,,
So does the other Nate Smith fit into this list at all? Or is he less game changing and more just really damn good? lol. Also do you have a list of jazz records that every drummer should listen too?