Hi I had a look at your video, very good, I do have a suggestion though. Check your fly weight position between the towers. It looked like a weight had shifted to one side. This would cause the clutch to not fully open at idle causing creep. It appears to operate properly without a belt but creep with belt installed. If you do have this issue take is apart and replace the fly weight bolt as it would have substained forces it is not designed to and will break at the dimple in the middle of the bolt. The fly weight is suppose to be dead centre between the towers and a very small allen head screw holds it in this position.
I dont think cat clutches are junk. I clean them after every ride. Or just inspect them. Got over 7000 miles, no problems. They just like to be clean. I now have a sled with team clutches. I'll continue to do the same.
That's something good to mention. If you are able to keep them clean they should last. But, sometimes it's hard on those 4 day trips to keep them clean after everyday. A lot of dust does get built up in there.
I had this same issue on my 15 m8000 it was related to a cracked spider on the primary clutch that would not let the clutch open all the way part that sucks is this year was not a team clutch and had to buy an entire new primary clutch since you can't just buy the spider and replace replace it
Just bought a used 2015 M8000. about 2000miles on it. Test drove it yesterday and noticed it tried to walk too. And belt started to make some noise after letting it idle. I figured that the belt was too tight but it sits very deep in the secondary, whole belt below the plates... Take it back to the dealer...? Also the ignition key does nothing, u can just drive it without the key if you want... Had brp's before, made me think did I make a mistake... xD
Usually u should wait on buying a new machine because if you wait, it gives the company time to sell a couple 100 machines and if there were any problems they usually get resolved. My dads buddy bought a sled #82 was the production number it had all sorts of problems. Just saying it’s another good reason to wait a little
Pricing out some options right now. Probably just gonna have to end up buying the whole clutch though. Unless I can find a spider kicking around somewhere.
@@syxxesI want to run a set of spacers on the spring or a stronger spring had same issue had it fully apart and no visible damage or cracks so gonna run it
1 1/8th inch to 1 1/4 inch. This is the correct deflection. Nothing was wrong with the belt deflection at all. Primary clutch cracked -Cat Master Mechanic
Going to buy a next season looking forward to get into backcountry tired of the trail life !
You'll like it, even if it's a little intimidating a first. xD
Is there a way to get the plastics out of the way without having to drill out what looks like rivets to remove the clutch?
I fix my problem with Arctic cat clutches kwick. I bought a Yamaha. No more problems.
@Taylor Anderson are you too much of a soy boy to handle a little. Extra weight
Hi I had a look at your video, very good, I do have a suggestion though. Check your fly weight position between the towers. It looked like a weight had shifted to one side. This would cause the clutch to not fully open at idle causing creep. It appears to operate properly without a belt but creep with belt installed. If you do have this issue take is apart and replace the fly weight bolt as it would have substained forces it is not designed to and will break at the dimple in the middle of the bolt. The fly weight is suppose to be dead centre between the towers and a very small allen head screw holds it in this position.
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See the next video for the resolution.
I dont think cat clutches are junk. I clean them after every ride. Or just inspect them. Got over 7000 miles, no problems. They just like to be clean. I now have a sled with team clutches. I'll continue to do the same.
That's something good to mention. If you are able to keep them clean they should last. But, sometimes it's hard on those 4 day trips to keep them clean after everyday. A lot of dust does get built up in there.
Compressed air, to blow out belt dust is quick and easy. Most people would be surprised how much belt dust there is after one day of riding.
I feel for ya I've gone through 3 arctic cat clutches on my 2011 m8. I now run a team clutch for a 2016 m8 and so far it work's very well
On those older ones I think the trick is to just keep the things clean.
That definitely helps.
I had this same issue on my 15 m8000 it was related to a cracked spider on the primary clutch that would not let the clutch open all the way part that sucks is this year was not a team clutch and had to buy an entire new primary clutch since you can't just buy the spider and replace replace it
Just bought a used 2015 M8000. about 2000miles on it. Test drove it yesterday and noticed it tried to walk too. And belt started to make some noise after letting it idle. I figured that the belt was too tight but it sits very deep in the secondary, whole belt below the plates... Take it back to the dealer...? Also the ignition key does nothing, u can just drive it without the key if you want... Had brp's before, made me think did I make a mistake... xD
Coo man thanks for the update. Rip on
Looks to me like you have a crack in your spider I can see it In the video Definitely Cooked Keep them coming
Are you going to buy the 2019 Arctic Cat
I don't wanna give anything away just yet, but I'm going to be talking about a build for next season soon!
Usually u should wait on buying a new machine because if you wait, it gives the company time to sell a couple 100 machines and if there were any problems they usually get resolved. My dads buddy bought a sled #82 was the production number it had all sorts of problems. Just saying it’s another good reason to wait a little
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I don't know but when you ran the sled up @ 1:30 or so you can see thing wailing all over the place. but good work keep up the riding.
They kinda always have a wobble in them at idle. Even when new.
ok
Ok, I’ll give you that one, not what I guessed was the issue at all. 🤔
I’ve got a 15 m8 153 with no spark any tips or help?
pull your primary off and rebuild it!
Gotta watch to the end. Primary is off.
Hey bud I need help on a 2008 artic cat z1 Jaguar I need a primary or rebuild
Keep rockin' it man! Greets from Qc!
Thanks for following! I'll be continuing breaking things!
pto clutch has bent shaft, time for new clutch. guaranteed from overheating
You bet. She's toast!
yea, better check the crank run out while you have the clutch off
I heard 2016 and 2017 got better clutches, is that true?
Had the exact same problem..
when it was idling you could see the clutch wobble.. hard to tell from video but looked like more then motor vibration
They will wobble on idle. Its straight once its reved up
You can see it at 5:00 in the video.... secondary gets pulled every time the primary wobbles.....
Clutches and belts would last longer being underdriven 25% of engine rpm
Do you know if you can start a sled without the primary clutch connected to the motor?
You can. Yes. But. It is going to be a real tough unit to pull over. The clutch acts as a flywheel for the PTO and assists momentum
your primary clutch prob broken from engaging it with no belt on it. you will smash them apart and lucky it didn't' explode
Old video! This problem has been long solved! Sorry! That wasn't the issue!
How many kilometers on that clutch?
What’s the belt number
With out watching. Ill guess ahead of time you need a skidoo. Lol.
That crank looks like its got a wobble
4 years later: engine has 6000km on it, problem free.
@@syxxes beauty.
How do you adjust the belt deflection on this style of clutch
With different thickness washers used on the secondary clutch bmp has a bolt that will do this as well but is expensive for a plastic piece
I don't think anyone makes an aftermarket spider?
Didn't bdx? I know I seen a billet one somewhere.
Pricing out some options right now. Probably just gonna have to end up buying the whole clutch though. Unless I can find a spider kicking around somewhere.
Dean Sikorski thunder products
Syxxes Performance Thunderproducts. Or supreme tool
Dean Sikorski yeah your right 18 years ago you would be lucky to get 2000 miles out of it !
need to put in a new primary clutch spring -put in a stiffer spring
What makes you say that?
@@syxxesI want to run a set of spacers on the spring or a stronger spring had same issue had it fully apart and no visible damage or cracks so gonna run it
Got this issue as well no cracks or breaks its bran new from cat
Damn junk just don't make'm like they use too
Riding too hard maybe? Gotta pay to play!
Syxxes Performance well since you brought it to my attention you could back off it a little I mean after all it is a CAT
The way the clutching is on those older-ish cats, and anyone who has one can agree: "It's full throttle or nothing!"
Syxxes Performance Now come on don't lie you just like to go fast
Ty there is nothing wrong with admitting your wrong
I think I can see a wobble in your clutch Buy a power block and be done with it
It does not look right when it shifts?😝
She blew!
I see a crack @7:24
were you honestly cleaning the primary while it was running??? my god........
Be careful! xD
Fuck i Have the same problem... must check it up. Good video 👍
That was some bad comments in the video!!! THE SECONDARY CLUTCH NEEDS TO OPEN MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Muppet!!!!!
FOR THAT BELT!!!!
Ok so it did not open!!!
Lmfao how many hours before you finally pulled it and realized brushing and cracks u could see it in the video when it engaged wit no belt
Maybe 30 minutes. I'm a Cat tech, so wasn't long for me to figure out.
Your belt deflection is not right lol , that was not the problem like you said but I say it , your belt is too tight , creep too much
1 1/8th inch to 1 1/4 inch. This is the correct deflection. Nothing was wrong with the belt deflection at all. Primary clutch cracked -Cat Master Mechanic
IT LOOK NOT NORMAL , belive me Its what i call ''The wobble clutch of death'' watch at 1:40
Nope. Added another 4000km to that engine since. 6000 total.
They are not arctic cat! They are crap cat, and what the reason to own these things? There junk. No offence though
And after 10 min we dont know what was the problem.... useless lol