I believe everyone’s experience is subjective, including my own. I’ve had no problem blending them and I’ve been using colored pencils for 2 decades. In my experience, they are fantastic.
Thanks for the awesome comparison video! I have all three brands now. Just picked up the full sets of Holbein and Pablos but have not had much chance to play around with them due to family matters taking me away from home. I had two Pablos (Bluish Pale and Jade Green) that I bought open stock previously which convinced me to purchase the full set. Bluish Pale has become one of my favourite pencils ever. i had started doing the colour chart for my Holbeins and I love them too. I think both brands will go well with my Polychromos pencils (they are my favourite in terms of tactile feel).
+brushjunkie Thank you! I am very happy you enjoyed the comparison! Bluish pale and mouse grey are some of my favorite Pablo exclusive shades. They're fantastic. I know what you mean about tactile feel. They all have a different feel to them even though they're all oil based. I'm happy to hear you've gotten all 3 brands. Hope you enjoy them for many years to come!
Thanks! this gives me something to think about. I'm a watercolour artist but I have been recently contemplating getting into coloured pencils and maybe mixing the two to give my watercolour pieces a bit more depth. By what you were saying it sounds like my best bet is the Polychromos. Thanks again!
+Nathan Dixon You're very welcome! Thank you for your kind words and feedback. I use both watercolor and colored pencil, and I can tell you while they're different mediums, they're both beautiful in their own ways. Colored pencil and watercolor work beautifully together!
It's interesting that you say that the FC polys have a good range of aquatic colours- I find that my 60 set is very yellow and red-heavy (although the 120 set appears better balanced) . The 60 set seems to have a lot of 'artists' colours in that the colours in the set are intensely pigmented and that there are very few pale colours or colours that have a white undertone. I imagine that this is why a lot of newer artists prefer Prismacolors over Polychromos because it's easy to get the right colour fresh from the pencil- Polys require a bit more layering and pressure control to use, but result in a massive colour selection. I am so interested in those Holbein pencils... They look so good! Maybe one day! Another great video and review, excellent work Jane! :)
+Claudia Sketches Thank you, Claudia! I always love your insight! I'll take a look at the 60 set bc this is good to know for future reference. Polys do require more layering but I find give a softer, more realistic look in the end. After using Prismas for so long, when I see a piece done in Prismas, I can tell. They have a certain appearance to them, which isn't necessarily bad, it just is what it is. Prismas are good for those with arthritis where you don't have to put as much pressure on them. I'm finding with the early onset arthritis I have, that I have to limit the amount of work I do at times with colored pencils. As much as I love them, they are a medium that demand your time and involvement.
Thanks for responding! :D I totally know what you mean with the prisma-look. They generally result in a thickly applied appearance and I find that it's quite difficult to achieve subtle nuance and texture with them. I'm experimenting a lot to see if I can coax another side out of them, but as they are I still like them- especially in conjunction with Polys. I have hypermobility which means I get hand fatigue and cramp a little faster than most. I find that I struggle with the very hard Derwent Studios but haven't run into issues with either Polys or Prisma yet- although I do make sure to take regular breaks and do gentle hand stretches when I remember. I tend to do underpaintings for CP work- partly because it's a lot faster and I can be a bit antsy at times, but also because it helps reduce the time spent using pencils. It may sound a bit crazy, but I'm curious to see if those pencil grips help over time- y'know, those rubber things that kids put on pencils and pens to make them easier to hold? I'm thinking that a slightly wider and less slippery surface will mean that you don't have to grip as tightly to have the same control. I used to do something similar when writing my longer exams a few years back- I used a rubber band wrapped around my pen a few times and that seemed to help a bit.
Odorless does not mean nontoxic! I find the most accomplished artist can make any pencil work! I like that you put several on the bottom and several on the top then deside what works best for you, since all pencils have oil and wax I would imagine any pencils would work well together. And pencils with similar recipes would work best together. I have also seen some amazing artwork done with Holbein pencils by Amie Howard Art you can check out her channel on UA-cam as well. Thanks for giving us your expertise and very enjoyable video. Please take care, be safe and have a lovely day!
Thank you for the demonstration. It has helped me to understand what color pencils to look for, compared to Prismacolor. I see that the Polychromos look better compared to Prismacolor.
Don't trust the public when it comes to pencils. Most adults haven't upgraded their knowledge since childhood. Pencils ✏️ have engineering concepts such as lead diameter and radius. Nobody outside the manufacturers bothers to look at those things. That is your first indication that YOU'RE WRONG. Manufacturers sharpen pencils ✏️. Pencil users DON'T SHARPEN PENCILS. You wear down the lead to a point that has facets in it. Then you maintain those facets all the way along the pencil ✏️
I've always mixed my pencil brands and never had an issue...Caren dach'e , Polychromos, Prisma's and Derwents, they all work beautifully together. Wax or oil based who cares..
Until you go to sell your work. Then you find out YOU'VE BEEN FOOLISH. YOU aren't as skilled and as knowledgeable as the manufacturers. I wished you lunatics wouldn't waste everyone's time and money.
+ColoringKaria I used to own some Luminance, and don't get me wrong: I LOVED them. I had to part with them when I ran into a financial bind, but I'm starting to buy them open stock again. Btw I love your channel and videos! I've been watching for a while :-)
oh I so sorry i missed your reply youtube didnt send me a notification! Oh thank you thats really sweet of you! Yes they (luminance) are really expensive. the price has come down. Some. Not a lot.
Once again i missed this, i need to fix my settings i think. Yes they price has been going down. I ended up getting a set of 40 instead of open stock for the extra 20 colors because the prices have dropped that much. One thing though i would suggest you contact Caran D'ache because from my research the pablo's are wax based not oil. I cant share the image on youtube but I asked on instagram and thats what they told me. :) Hope that helps.
Thank you for the informative demo. I must admit that I enjoy the smooth, creamy feel of the Holbein pencils. The color palette is quite varied and beautiful.
Could you explain why you use an oil-based pencil like it’s a wax-based? I’m not judging, don’t get me wrong 😊 But I noticed that you didn’t build up layers in this video. The colors of polychromos look a bit streaky after you put on the color of polychromos. I’ve learned so far that, although they are wonderful, the polychromos needs sooo many (light) layers if you want to get a really smooth surface (skin in my case).
+Sue Hull You're welcome. Some art supply stores sell them open stock, so you could possibly build up a collection over time. I know that's not nearly as fun, but it's an option.
Odd to use a wax blender with oil based pencils. I emailed Caran D'Ache recently about the oil/wax question. This is the response: Both the Pablo and Luminance are wax based colored pencils. Caran d'Ache does not make an oil based colored pencil. Karen Divis Caran d'Ache / Creative Art Materials
I just got my Hobeins and I am amazed how smooth they are and how well I can blend.. I am so happy with them and I have a feeling I won't be using the prismacolors again for awhile.
I have yet to try the Holbein pencils, but I love their watercolours haha. Irrelevant, but I have faith in their quality 😉 That said, I LOOOOOOOOVE the Polychromos. They just..ugh they feel so niiice to use!! Can't get over it every time I use them. HOWEVER, what I don't like about them is the colour selection in their smaller sets. As someone who doesn't like buying gigantic sets simply because I don't need a lot of colours..it feels really annoying that their 24 and 36 colour sets don't have a single flesh tone nor a pale pink nor a baby blue tone. Frustrating for the kind of work I tend to do. Even their 60 colour set has only a handful of SEMI pale tones. I'm having to consider getting their 120 set simply because of all the lovely colours that are only available in their set. Both Pablo and Holbein have beautifully balanced sets, which is a real blessing I have to say. I used the Pablos years ago as a 6 year old [got em as a gift] and loved them. Looking forward to buying them again, I have fond memories of using them. And ofcourse I have to try me some Holbein coloured pencils too, they do look wonderful. They also have a separate pastel set, which I think is awesome! Tombow Irojiten has some wonderful sets and you can choose smaller blister packs to buy as well, wish more companies sold their pencils in themed sets like that.. Thanks so much for such a nice comparison video! It was quite interesting seeing how these 3 stacked up against each other.
Linda Carreira I can't buy from Dick Blick or Jerrys where I'm from...also buying open stock from Amazon costs a lot shipping wise...it's easier if a set is more balanced anyways. Even Derwent's coloured pencil sets are well balanced....
I've recently tried the Caran full blender over Polychromos. I'm not sure why but when i came back the next day there was a white-ish haze (wax bloom?) over all the parts where i used the blender. I went over the areas again with poly's and it went away. Im not sure if i used the blender too much or what. :/ Also, i noticed that if i have many layers down already, the blender sorta muddles and clumps the color....so i guess it's not really good beyond 2 or 3 layers. I'm a beginner in colored pencils though...so it might be user error.
I prefer the full blender on wax based pencil. Wax bloom is common through all wax based pencil. Some just don't look as bad as other brands. I don't like the full blender on oil based pencil. The same reason I don't mix wax based with oil based pencil. It's true with what Margaret said about the "muddles and clumps". The wax pushes the polychromos pigments around and make them clump together. This happened especially for the purples and blues. The wax also covers the vibrancy of some bright light blues. For some reason orange/yellow will blend nicely, but they have always done that with any blending technique lol But like always, I won't say this about everyone. I find myself working with colored pencil a little differently from how others do it.
I've purchased the Lyra Blender so i'll test that one soon. I also ordered a 12 set of a few different pencil brands so i can decide which i like before buying 100+ pencils. I hope i can find the perfect pencil for my coloring style. :D :D
I know this is an older video, and you may not answer questions, but I was just curious why do you think the Holbein pencils have not been made available for sale on US-based art store sites, like Blick - and can only be purchased on eBay or Amazon? I just purchased the 150 set on Amazon today after drooling over them for the last month. To be honest though, I'd rather have bought them from an online art store because art stores take more care in the shipment of their fragile art supplies. (I discovered this issue when my box of CdA Luminance had been crushed on the corners when ordering from Prime. Thank goodness Caran'd'ache adds extra padding to the inside of their pencil packaging) Anyway, I had contacted Blick about this issue a month ago, since they sell every other Holbein product, but I have yet to recieve an answer as to why they do not carry Holbein Colored Pencils.
+Sadie Saves the Day Hi! I actually had some of the Luminance and loved them, but had to end up selling them (long story). Pablo's are oil based (which I prefer), have a larger selection of colors, and are water resistant. I'm not sure if the Luminance pencils are water resistant, but the Blick Art Materials video demo on Pablo's are what really sold me on them. Thanks for watching!
I just want ask some question is Derwent colour soft will be better then fabercastel I am confused which colour pencil i will buy derwent or fabercastel please tell me
+Sukumal Sinha I personally prefer Faber-Castell Polychromos over Derwent's Coloursoft but that's just me. That would be what I would advise you to get. However, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Derwent is wax based and soft, while Polychromos are oil based and firmer. They are smooth and don't have the wax bloom though that wax based pencils tend to have. I find I can layer more with oil based pencils like Polychromos. However, Coloursoft is a good pencil. I don't have any complaints with it. It's just not what I would prefer to use. I would buy Polychromos if I were you. It's worth the extra money you'll invest in them.
I got my first set of Polychromos pencils last year with some Christmas money but it was only a set of 36. Unfortunately that set doesn't have much in the way of flesh tones, but since then I've been adding on pencils via open stock. It's can be hard to tell by online swatches exactly what you're getting; could you give me some options that might be good to help beef up my flesh tones?
+jeansmx I'll be doing a future video on this, but in the meantime if you're looking for classic skin tones, stick to the umbers for shadows. Stick to midtones like raw sienna and medium flesh. Highlights and mid highlights can range from cream and white to light flesh. Those are the basics I can recommend. I do know Polychromos have their light, medium, and dark flesh tones. Also most skin tones that exist in acrylic and oil as I mentioned with the Sienna's and Umbers exist in colored pencil tones (at least with Polychromos).
Hi I had the Polychromos, Pablos and 50 Pastel Holbeins. I love them all! Are there colours in the other 100 Holbeins that aren't in the Polychromos or Pablo range?
I don't know if it's available open stock, but Lyra Rembrandt has what it calls a Splender pencil, and being oil-based it might be worth giving a try as opposed to the wax-based blender. I should look and see if Faber-Castell offers something like that.
Loved your video. I have polychromos. But now you have me thinking slightly differently. I was saving for a 120 Pablo. Now, I’m thinking of looking at the other two sets and trying to find colors that I don’t have and adding. Much more cost effective than another full set of Pablo’s. I will also check out the Japenese pencil. Thank you.
Trying to decide between a full set of Pablos and a full set of Poly's, and was wondering how they each hold up. I've often heard the Pablos are a bit "scratchy" and wanted to know if you've had similar issues with them?
I would personally go with Polys first. I haven’t had a problem with Pablo’s being scratchy, and I’m pretty heavy handed at times with colored pencils. I do like that they sharpen to a point and you can get really good detail going with them, but in comparison, I’d recommend Polys first. You can’t beat their range of colors and vibrancy. The layering is a dream to work with.
+Joey OneArts For a pencil blender, I prefer the Prisma blender or the Lyra splender. Odorless mineral spirits are another favorite. I've tried the Derwent blender and it does well, but it has a scratchy feel to it when I used it. It's a sensory thing.
Hi, i was reading about holbeins colored pencils, and read it was a mixture of oil, wax, and fat... but that they keep their formula pretty secret. I know that all pencils have a lil of both and their classifying goes to whatever it has more of, but are the holbeins really oil based then? And not some secret formula mixture of the two that cant be classified either way?
I just saw a video about Holbeins from a professional artist. She was unable to get satisfactory answer from them on how they test for Lightfastness. And since she sells artwork, she didn't feel like she could trust them to be lightfast. So she said she will not be buying any more or using what paints and pencils she already has. Colored pencils have an industry standard way of testing for how lightfast something is, but the Japanese are using a "proprietary method" instead. so it seems completely random as to whether they are really lightfast or not. To be one of the most expensive pencils out there, but not to comply with the industry standard seems misleading
I was reading the Pablo's are wax based via wet canvas....can you confirm if they're wax or oil? Thanks for your review....very few good reviews for Pablo's.
+Alicia Hadden I've seen the thread, and although I have not heard from the company personally, I was lead to believe they are oil based due to reviews and commentary. In my experience, they feel much more like Polychromos (oil based) vs. Prismacolor (wax based).
Southpaw Creative Arts yes I do have the luminance set and absolutely love them. I only use them for special works and had been eyeballing the Pablo's for a while to use along with my polychromos but then read so many conflicting articles I didn't know which end was up about the Pablo's....do they play nicely with the polychromos? I know I've seen the pablos don't have many skin tone colors as the polychromos so I was looking for something I could kind of use together. Thank you for your quick reply....I have seen very few youtube reviews on the pablos and really really wanted to know more about them and actually see them. LOL!
E Psythiros I seriously looked at the Holbein's on ebay I believe and gah they are so expensive. LOL! I doubt I will be able to try them and I read they also don't come in open stock?
+Alicia Hadden Yes, they definitely aren't cool for being unavailable in open stock and the price is very expensive. Hopefully in the future, that will change.
Contacted the company. The Pablo color pencils are not oil based. Just started so it is a learning experience. I am used to Faber Castle poluchromos. Does anyone know how to blend? Great company to deal with. Was really impressed.
I guess I am just confused, because you said you only use oil based now. Which is obviously Polychromos. But Holbein and Pablo are both very waxy pencils. Regardless of what they are labeled as. All pencils are both oil and wax. Just depends on how much in their brands recipe. But Pablo's are extremely waxy pencils. Thats why they don't layer as well as Polychromos. Same with Holbein. You can tell how much wax is in a pencil by using sanded paper and powder blender. Since powder blender won't work with waxier pencils and only move the pigment of true oil colored pencils.
This is a very old video, and I’d yet to find out about Pablo’s. I had read where they were oil based & really hadn’t noticed as much back then since I’d used pablos for details. Holbein are a mix of wax, oils, and fats. They are a unique hybrid kind of pencil and continue to remain one of my favorites. Since then, I use several different brands that are both oil and wax, just depending on the brand. I apologize for the confusion.
@@ArtistJane Hi Jane from what I have read Caran Dache had said all pencils are a mixture of oil and wax. It just depends on the ratio some will have more wax than oil the Pablo probably have more oil than wax. Thank you for the demonstration.
Like the Pablo and Polychromos, Holbein never tried, but my favorite is 1 Derwent Lightfast, 2 Carandache Luminance, 3 Fabercastell polychromos 4 Derwent Artists 5 Carandache Pablo, this is based in my experience, never tryied all the top pencils in the world
@ Hard colour pencils: Up to the 90s there were *colour pencils with a hardness between lead pencil HD and H. With those you had no limit of layers. You could sharpen usable tips, as fine as an etching needle. But alas, somewhere in the 2000s they were discontinued. Do you know a brand that goes in that direction? *Faber Castell Goldfaber 4100.
I still use the Prismacolor pencils. I am still trying to figure out color theory and layering. Are there good ways to learn color theory outside of art school? By color theory I mean what colors can I blend together to create skintones and the like.
+S Werner If you want to learn color theory outside of art school, UA-cam and Google will be your friends. Creating skin tones can be tricky depending on what kind of portrait you're creating (whether it's from your imagination or a photo reference). If you want to stick to pure skin color tones that will help cover a variety of ethnicities, classic skin tone color like raw umber, burnt umber would be great for shadows and Sienna's are great for midtones. Lighter skin tones are usually included in most larger colored pencil sets. You have to kind of experiment to see what works for you. Sometimes a flesh tone may be too warm or cool, and you'll have to adjust it with layering something like a light cream/yellow or light blue. It takes practice, but you can get there.
Thanks so much. That is fabulous advice. I do a lot of youtube cruising and learn a lot from fabulous artist's like you that have provided great information. Thanks.
Thank you so much for such an outstanding review! you have equipped me with what I need to make the decision. Like both the Polychromos and holbein, unfortunately, my conundrum, like the quality of the FB, but color palette of the Holbein....
+john napoli Thank you, John! Seeing comments like yours and knowing I've helped you on your way to a decision is what makes creating videos like this worth while! I hope you enjoy (and I know you will) whichever brand you choose! And yes, the holbein palette is hard to beat! FB, however, has an amazing palette as well and both brands are high quality in performance! Best of future creating to you! Jane (AJ)
Thank you AJ. I'm a nut for the best quality but my work requires the most extensive palette possible and I use a lot of pastels so looks like I'm going to give up the edge on quality for the range Thank you again. I couldn't have made the decision without you!
I realize this is an older video, but it's awesome! I just wanted to say my only "gripe" about the Polychromos is the palette. It seems to me as if they could've given us more browns and fewer pinks and purples. I feel like there aren't enough browns for some reason... I can never find the one I want. Haha.
Browns and Reds, are the only issue with Polychromos. They don't have enough browns and they don't have a proper red, only some red-ish colours. They have a deep red and a kind of light red, but no red for some reason.
+brandon smith Thank you! I use Mona Lisa Odorless Mineral Spirits and a filbert brush to blend them. Just takes some practice to blend to your liking.
I ordered the full set of polychromos earlier today and I was wondering if I should get a set of prismacolours with it? I've found the 72 set relatively cheap where I live but I think these are the newer ones of lower quality. I haven't yet really been able to experiment with it all (and I am slowly dieing until the polychromos arrive) but am wondering if getting the extra set would be useful for more colours, blending, ect. So any advice from the artists of the internet? I know this video is kinda old now but I figured it was kind of relevant to it. Thanks!
+MC Snow Golem I personally don't use modern Prismacolors or recommend them. The quality control has gone down hill and plus you will have plenty of colors to choose from with the Polychromos. You'll more than likely fall in love with them. If you can get your hands on vintage Prismacolors, say on eBay, I recommend those. I'll be having a giveaway soon with some vintage Prismas, so keep your eyes peeled for those. It's ultimately your choice, but I don't recommend Prismacolors anymore.
Southpaw Creative Arts oh ok thanks so much and that sounds great I'll look out for the giveaway! Now I just have to wait for the polychromos to arrive...
Jane i don't wanna sound bad but i got new prisma sets and they work like a charm never had a pencil break and they are rather good in blending the difference between polychromos and prism is that prisma run faster cuz they are soft wax based but polychroms are not but prisma are more blendy and times cheaper and 150 set is 70$ only Thy run quick but work quick to the difference in quality of the pigment is about 10% or 15% but yup they run out faster but not tht fast 70$ is a steal tbh
+Nayra Fernandez I don't believe the gradient can be achieved here since these are oil based pencils, and of course oil and water don't mix. You can get water soluble pencils like Art Grip by Faber-Castell and use a gradient effect with water. For care of the brush, I usually use the pink soap and warm water, and/or a brush conditioner.
Also no prisma? Ok since some specific artists get issue with them . However i ever got a lead broke with them ever Moving on I get it polychromos are real good so is holbein but caran d'ache 6901 is better then both of them why isn't it there
Hello¡¡¡¡¡Nice Video¡This pencil is Oil base?and I want to buy ilumínense set 76,but now l want to buy this set of Holbain,so,what do you recomend me?Thank you
+Mariaraquel Oliver Luminance are the best wax based pencils out there, and Holbein are oil based. I would try out a few open stock luminance and see how you like them and invest in a small set of the Holbein. Then you'll know if you want to invest in a larger set of the one you prefer! :) I hope that helps.
as long as you don't sell art they're OK. They don't use the industry standard method to test lightfastness, but a "proprietary method". I just saw a video from a professional artist who will never use any of their products again because she can't trust them for being lightfast, even though she likes the colors and how they work. She can't in good conscience sell any piece made with them. That goes for their paints and other stuff too
I’ll be actually clearing up the confusion (hopefully) in a future video that’s in the works. It’ll be an announcement from Holbein, as I’ve collaborated with the VP of Holbein here in the US. So please take what you hear with a grain of salt, and not gospel.
@@ArtistJane well the lady read all of her emails back and forth with Holbein and they just kind of dropped the conversation abruptly when she pressed for a concrete answer. The few colored pencils I have are just for fun.
hi there...i'm fairly new to the online youtube artworld community..my channel is small right now, but i'm learning as i go along.. lol... i ran across your channel and first of all y would anyone thumbs down your video,,this is great review and it help me to make my decision on what to get...i just finished my Christmas series sketches of the 12 days of christmas in pencil and was going to my next medium choice(color pencil), wasn;t sure what was new out there, cause there is so much..with that said..new subbie here and i look forward to checking out more of your videos..
I'm getting to where I prefer hexagonal pencils. They don't roll all over. Pentel colored pencils are hexagon shaped. Also I just bought a 12 pack of FC metallic ones. Also hexagon.
Honestly, I don’t know. It’s sort of a slang term for “everyone”, and we sometimes do it unconsciously. Love that you loved it! Thank you for watching!
@@ArtistJane but how about the holbein lightfastness? I`m simply curious to know how important to think about it at all. Cause as I see from reviews most of their pencils should fade faster than others.
I have full sets of all three manufacturers. The Polys are the worst pencils I've purchased. They are not oil based even though they claim this. Check the MSDS - the only true oil based pencils are Lyra and Feela.
Oooh! Ok haha! I understand now! I used to own some of the tombow irojitin, and while I loved them, I never found myself reaching for them as much. I loved how they layered, but they were a bit too “hard” in their leads for me. I wouldn’t mind having a few of them now and then for sketches. I do love how they have them arranged into “color dictionaries”. Very clever!
Pablos might feel like oil pencils, but the are actually wax. Caran D'ache don't sell oil pencils. They only sell Pablo and Luminance as wax pencils, and the rest of their pencils are water soluble. 😉
You're miles away from perfect. Men invented pencils so that implies that women have no clue they're WRONG when it comes to pencils. You DO NOT sharpen pencils. You WEAR IN THE POINT to a FACETED POINT. Then you maintain the FACETED point all along the length of the pencil ✏️. You haven't worn down the point enough so you're over applying the lead. Your experience is WRONG.
Thank you! I understand! I keep thinking “well...when this set runs out overall...will you want to buy another one and another one?”. They just need to make them available open stock here in the US once and for all!
With all due respect, Pablos are not in the top three. Luminance are. Frankly, Pablos suck. And you really should contact Caran d'ache. According to them, they do not make any oil based pencils. The difference between Pablos and Luminance are how the cores are processed. But they are both wax based.
It’s all subjective, and if they’re wax based (which if they are, they don’t perform like typical wax based pencils), then I’m ok with that. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Pablo’s. Luminance are great too. Love them - but at the time of filming this, I didn’t own them.
I own the 120-pc set from FC-Polychromos and just love all colors. The pastels you featured a while back from Holbein are something else though.
no they ain't. they don't even blend
I believe everyone’s experience is subjective, including my own. I’ve had no problem blending them and I’ve been using colored pencils for 2 decades. In my experience, they are fantastic.
@@hellbumhole4216 😂😂
Thanks for the awesome comparison video! I have all three brands now. Just picked up the full sets of Holbein and Pablos but have not had much chance to play around with them due to family matters taking me away from home. I had two Pablos (Bluish Pale and Jade Green) that I bought open stock previously which convinced me to purchase the full set. Bluish Pale has become one of my favourite pencils ever. i had started doing the colour chart for my Holbeins and I love them too. I think both brands will go well with my Polychromos pencils (they are my favourite in terms of tactile feel).
+brushjunkie Thank you! I am very happy you enjoyed the comparison! Bluish pale and mouse grey are some of my favorite Pablo exclusive shades. They're fantastic. I know what you mean about tactile feel. They all have a different feel to them even though they're all oil based. I'm happy to hear you've gotten all 3 brands. Hope you enjoy them for many years to come!
Thanks! this gives me something to think about. I'm a watercolour artist but I have been recently contemplating getting into coloured pencils and maybe mixing the two to give my watercolour pieces a bit more depth.
By what you were saying it sounds like my best bet is the Polychromos.
Thanks again!
+Nathan Dixon You're very welcome! Thank you for your kind words and feedback. I use both watercolor and colored pencil, and I can tell you while they're different mediums, they're both beautiful in their own ways. Colored pencil and watercolor work beautifully together!
I'm kind of surprised that the wax-based Prismacolor blender works so well with all the oil-based pencils.
I think the blender isn't wax based. it's something else, the pencils are tho
@@nameless6411 all blender pencils are wax
It's interesting that you say that the FC polys have a good range of aquatic colours- I find that my 60 set is very yellow and red-heavy (although the 120 set appears better balanced) . The 60 set seems to have a lot of 'artists' colours in that the colours in the set are intensely pigmented and that there are very few pale colours or colours that have a white undertone. I imagine that this is why a lot of newer artists prefer Prismacolors over Polychromos because it's easy to get the right colour fresh from the pencil- Polys require a bit more layering and pressure control to use, but result in a massive colour selection.
I am so interested in those Holbein pencils... They look so good! Maybe one day! Another great video and review, excellent work Jane! :)
+Claudia Sketches Thank you, Claudia! I always love your insight! I'll take a look at the 60 set bc this is good to know for future reference. Polys do require more layering but I find give a softer, more realistic look in the end. After using Prismas for so long, when I see a piece done in Prismas, I can tell. They have a certain appearance to them, which isn't necessarily bad, it just is what it is. Prismas are good for those with arthritis where you don't have to put as much pressure on them. I'm finding with the early onset arthritis I have, that I have to limit the amount of work I do at times with colored pencils. As much as I love them, they are a medium that demand your time and involvement.
Thanks for responding! :D
I totally know what you mean with the prisma-look. They generally result in a thickly applied appearance and I find that it's quite difficult to achieve subtle nuance and texture with them. I'm experimenting a lot to see if I can coax another side out of them, but as they are I still like them- especially in conjunction with Polys.
I have hypermobility which means I get hand fatigue and cramp a little faster than most. I find that I struggle with the very hard Derwent Studios but haven't run into issues with either Polys or Prisma yet- although I do make sure to take regular breaks and do gentle hand stretches when I remember. I tend to do underpaintings for CP work- partly because it's a lot faster and I can be a bit antsy at times, but also because it helps reduce the time spent using pencils.
It may sound a bit crazy, but I'm curious to see if those pencil grips help over time- y'know, those rubber things that kids put on pencils and pens to make them easier to hold? I'm thinking that a slightly wider and less slippery surface will mean that you don't have to grip as tightly to have the same control. I used to do something similar when writing my longer exams a few years back- I used a rubber band wrapped around my pen a few times and that seemed to help a bit.
Odorless does not mean nontoxic! I find the most accomplished artist can make any pencil work! I like that you put several on the bottom and several on the top then deside what works best for you, since all pencils have oil and wax I would imagine any pencils would work well together. And pencils with similar recipes would work best together. I have also seen some amazing artwork done with Holbein pencils by Amie Howard Art you can check out her channel on UA-cam as well. Thanks for giving us your expertise and very enjoyable video. Please take care, be safe and have a lovely day!
Thanks for this video 🙂 You should try the Caran d'ache Luminance. They are better than the Pablo 😉
Thank you for the demonstration. It has helped me to understand what color pencils to look for, compared to Prismacolor. I see that the Polychromos look better compared to Prismacolor.
Don't trust the public when it comes to pencils.
Most adults haven't upgraded their knowledge since childhood.
Pencils ✏️ have engineering concepts such as lead diameter and radius.
Nobody outside the manufacturers bothers to look at those things.
That is your first indication that YOU'RE WRONG.
Manufacturers sharpen pencils ✏️.
Pencil users DON'T SHARPEN PENCILS.
You wear down the lead to a point that has facets in it.
Then you maintain those facets all the way along the pencil ✏️
I've always mixed my pencil brands and never had an issue...Caren dach'e , Polychromos, Prisma's and Derwents, they all work beautifully together. Wax or oil based who cares..
Same here but I usually lay the oil based pencils down first.
Until you go to sell your work.
Then you find out YOU'VE BEEN FOOLISH.
YOU aren't as skilled and as knowledgeable as the manufacturers.
I wished you lunatics wouldn't waste everyone's time and money.
you put in the pablos but no luminance? thats an interesting choice.
+ColoringKaria I used to own some Luminance, and don't get me wrong: I LOVED them. I had to part with them when I ran into a financial bind, but I'm starting to buy them open stock again. Btw I love your channel and videos! I've been watching for a while :-)
oh I so sorry i missed your reply youtube didnt send me a notification! Oh thank you thats really sweet of you!
Yes they (luminance) are really expensive. the price has come down. Some. Not a lot.
+ColoringKaria It's no problem! I'm hoping to get the 40 set (best value for the money it seems) in the future! Goals!
Once again i missed this, i need to fix my settings i think. Yes they price has been going down. I ended up getting a set of 40 instead of open stock for the extra 20 colors because the prices have dropped that much. One thing though i would suggest you contact Caran D'ache because from my research the pablo's are wax based not oil. I cant share the image on youtube but I asked on instagram and thats what they told me. :)
Hope that helps.
I am Romanian and i love that u draw the Romanian flag ♥️
Thank you for the informative demo. I must admit that I enjoy the smooth, creamy feel of the Holbein pencils. The color palette is quite varied and beautiful.
Could you explain why you use an oil-based pencil like it’s a wax-based? I’m not judging, don’t get me wrong 😊 But I noticed that you didn’t build up layers in this video. The colors of polychromos look a bit streaky after you put on the color of polychromos.
I’ve learned so far that, although they are wonderful, the polychromos needs sooo many (light) layers if you want to get a really smooth surface (skin in my case).
I really want polychromos. I cant afford them. Thank you for showing these and how they blend.
+Sue Hull You're welcome. Some art supply stores sell them open stock, so you could possibly build up a collection over time. I know that's not nearly as fun, but it's an option.
I recently purchased a 72 set of Schpirrer Farben pencils (excellent quality oil based) and I'm filling in with open stock Polychromos
Odd to use a wax blender with oil based pencils.
I emailed Caran D'Ache recently about the oil/wax question. This is the response:
Both the Pablo and Luminance are wax based colored pencils. Caran d'Ache does not make an oil based colored pencil.
Karen Divis
Caran d'Ache / Creative Art Materials
I just got my Hobeins and I am amazed how smooth they are and how well I can blend.. I am so happy with them and I have a feeling I won't be using the prismacolors again for awhile.
thank you! so much! Holbein for you os better oil base than polycromos adn Pablo?
I have yet to try the Holbein pencils, but I love their watercolours haha. Irrelevant, but I have faith in their quality 😉
That said, I LOOOOOOOOVE the Polychromos. They just..ugh they feel so niiice to use!! Can't get over it every time I use them. HOWEVER, what I don't like about them is the colour selection in their smaller sets. As someone who doesn't like buying gigantic sets simply because I don't need a lot of colours..it feels really annoying that their 24 and 36 colour sets don't have a single flesh tone nor a pale pink nor a baby blue tone. Frustrating for the kind of work I tend to do. Even their 60 colour set has only a handful of SEMI pale tones. I'm having to consider getting their 120 set simply because of all the lovely colours that are only available in their set. Both Pablo and Holbein have beautifully balanced sets, which is a real blessing I have to say. I used the Pablos years ago as a 6 year old [got em as a gift] and loved them. Looking forward to buying them again, I have fond memories of using them. And ofcourse I have to try me some Holbein coloured pencils too, they do look wonderful. They also have a separate pastel set, which I think is awesome! Tombow Irojiten has some wonderful sets and you can choose smaller blister packs to buy as well, wish more companies sold their pencils in themed sets like that..
Thanks so much for such a nice comparison video! It was quite interesting seeing how these 3 stacked up against each other.
Noxmoony you can always buy the colors you want open stock from Dick Blick or Jerrys
Noxmoony
Linda Carreira I can't buy from Dick Blick or Jerrys where I'm from...also buying open stock from Amazon costs a lot shipping wise...it's easier if a set is more balanced anyways. Even Derwent's coloured pencil sets are well balanced....
In turms of simple blending prisma sometimes gets on top of Faber-Castell
Caran d'Ache make colorless blender too. I'm getting those soon.
+ooXChrissieXoo I haven't tried their colorless blender! Let us all know how you like it? I have tried Derwent's and didn't care for it.
I've recently tried the Caran full blender over Polychromos. I'm not sure why but when i came back the next day there was a white-ish haze (wax bloom?) over all the parts where i used the blender. I went over the areas again with poly's and it went away. Im not sure if i used the blender too much or what. :/ Also, i noticed that if i have many layers down already, the blender sorta muddles and clumps the color....so i guess it's not really good beyond 2 or 3 layers. I'm a beginner in colored pencils though...so it might be user error.
I prefer the full blender on wax based pencil.
Wax bloom is common through all wax based pencil. Some just don't look as bad as other brands. I don't like the full blender on oil based pencil. The same reason I don't mix wax based with oil based pencil. It's true with what Margaret said about the "muddles and clumps". The wax pushes the polychromos pigments around and make them clump together. This happened especially for the purples and blues. The wax also covers the vibrancy of some bright light blues. For some reason orange/yellow will blend nicely, but they have always done that with any blending technique lol
But like always, I won't say this about everyone. I find myself working with colored pencil a little differently from how others do it.
I've purchased the Lyra Blender so i'll test that one soon. I also ordered a 12 set of a few different pencil brands so i can decide which i like before buying 100+ pencils. I hope i can find the perfect pencil for my coloring style. :D :D
I know this is an older video, and you may not answer questions, but I was just curious why do you think the Holbein pencils have not been made available for sale on US-based art store sites, like Blick - and can only be purchased on eBay or Amazon?
I just purchased the 150 set on Amazon today after drooling over them for the last month.
To be honest though, I'd rather have bought them from an online art store because art stores take more care in the shipment of their fragile art supplies. (I discovered this issue when my box of CdA Luminance had been crushed on the corners when ordering from Prime. Thank goodness Caran'd'ache adds extra padding to the inside of their pencil packaging)
Anyway, I had contacted Blick about this issue a month ago, since they sell every other Holbein product, but I have yet to recieve an answer as to why they do not carry Holbein Colored Pencils.
Can you help me and between Pablo and faber castel poly what I choose?
I was just curious why you chose the Pablo line instead of the Luminance from Caran d'Ache?
+Sadie Saves the Day Hi! I actually had some of the Luminance and loved them, but had to end up selling them (long story). Pablo's are oil based (which I prefer), have a larger selection of colors, and are water resistant. I'm not sure if the Luminance pencils are water resistant, but the Blick Art Materials video demo on Pablo's are what really sold me on them. Thanks for watching!
according to caran d’ache, pablos are NOT oil-based, but a unique formula that is more wax than oil.
Caran d'Ache makes a oil+wax blender, Amazon sells them.
I just want ask some question is Derwent colour soft will be better then fabercastel I am confused which colour pencil i will buy derwent or fabercastel please tell me
+Sukumal Sinha I personally prefer Faber-Castell Polychromos over Derwent's Coloursoft but that's just me. That would be what I would advise you to get. However, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Derwent is wax based and soft, while Polychromos are oil based and firmer. They are smooth and don't have the wax bloom though that wax based pencils tend to have. I find I can layer more with oil based pencils like Polychromos. However, Coloursoft is a good pencil. I don't have any complaints with it. It's just not what I would prefer to use. I would buy Polychromos if I were you. It's worth the extra money you'll invest in them.
I got my first set of Polychromos pencils last year with some Christmas money but it was only a set of 36. Unfortunately that set doesn't have much in the way of flesh tones, but since then I've been adding on pencils via open stock. It's can be hard to tell by online swatches exactly what you're getting; could you give me some options that might be good to help beef up my flesh tones?
+jeansmx I'll be doing a future video on this, but in the meantime if you're looking for classic skin tones, stick to the umbers for shadows. Stick to midtones like raw sienna and medium flesh. Highlights and mid highlights can range from cream and white to light flesh. Those are the basics I can recommend. I do know Polychromos have their light, medium, and dark flesh tones. Also most skin tones that exist in acrylic and oil as I mentioned with the Sienna's and Umbers exist in colored pencil tones (at least with Polychromos).
Is there a difference using prisma wax blender on oil pencils? II have both carAn dash and or a Lyra oil pencil blender...
I haven’t noticed any difference myself or had any trouble. Typically though, I use odorless spirits for blending unless I’m traveling.
Hi I had the Polychromos, Pablos and 50 Pastel Holbeins. I love them all! Are there colours in the other 100 Holbeins that aren't in the Polychromos or Pablo range?
I don't know if it's available open stock, but Lyra Rembrandt has what it calls a Splender pencil, and being oil-based it might be worth giving a try as opposed to the wax-based blender. I should look and see if Faber-Castell offers something like that.
Lonita Fraser yes ive got it open stock dont rate it myself prefer my derwent one
+Lonita Fraser oh I love Lyra! I used to have a splendid but I haven't been able to locate them open stock.
+Lonita Fraser sorry, *splender (auto correct phone malfunction)
Loved your video. I have polychromos. But now you have me thinking slightly differently. I was saving for a 120 Pablo. Now, I’m thinking of looking at the other two sets and trying to find colors that I don’t have and adding. Much more cost effective than another full set of Pablo’s. I will also check out the Japenese pencil. Thank you.
The main problem for me is the Holbeins are not open stock, so if you lose or damage any you cannot replace just that one pencil.
Keni Vrataric I have no problem finding individual pencils online.
Trying to decide between a full set of Pablos and a full set of Poly's, and was wondering how they each hold up. I've often heard the Pablos are a bit "scratchy" and wanted to know if you've had similar issues with them?
I would personally go with Polys first. I haven’t had a problem with Pablo’s being scratchy, and I’m pretty heavy handed at times with colored pencils. I do like that they sharpen to a point and you can get really good detail going with them, but in comparison, I’d recommend Polys first. You can’t beat their range of colors and vibrancy. The layering is a dream to work with.
What would you say is your fave blender? I heard the Derwent Blender was real good (better than Prisma blender lol)
+Joey OneArts For a pencil blender, I prefer the Prisma blender or the Lyra splender. Odorless mineral spirits are another favorite. I've tried the Derwent blender and it does well, but it has a scratchy feel to it when I used it. It's a sensory thing.
Hi, i was reading about holbeins colored pencils, and read it was a mixture of oil, wax, and fat... but that they keep their formula pretty secret. I know that all pencils have a lil of both and their classifying goes to whatever it has more of, but are the holbeins really oil based then? And not some secret formula mixture of the two that cant be classified either way?
I just saw a video about Holbeins from a professional artist. She was unable to get satisfactory answer from them on how they test for Lightfastness. And since she sells artwork, she didn't feel like she could trust them to be lightfast. So she said she will not be buying any more or using what paints and pencils she already has. Colored pencils have an industry standard way of testing for how lightfast something is, but the Japanese are using a "proprietary method" instead. so it seems completely random as to whether they are really lightfast or not. To be one of the most expensive pencils out there, but not to comply with the industry standard seems misleading
Hello there!! Have you tried Derwent Lightfast colored pencils?? If so... What is your opinion about??
I have only the 12 set of the Derwent lightfast but I haven’t used it enough for a solid opinion of it.
I was reading the Pablo's are wax based via wet canvas....can you confirm if they're wax or oil? Thanks for your review....very few good reviews for Pablo's.
+Alicia Hadden I've seen the thread, and although I have not heard from the company personally, I was lead to believe they are oil based due to reviews and commentary. In my experience, they feel much more like Polychromos (oil based) vs. Prismacolor (wax based).
+Alicia Hadden Caran D'Ache have their wax based line, which are the Luminance pencils, if you're looking for wax based pencils.
Southpaw Creative Arts yes I do have the luminance set and absolutely love them. I only use them for special works and had been eyeballing the Pablo's for a while to use along with my polychromos but then read so many conflicting articles I didn't know which end was up about the Pablo's....do they play nicely with the polychromos? I know I've seen the pablos don't have many skin tone colors as the polychromos so I was looking for something I could kind of use together. Thank you for your quick reply....I have seen very few youtube reviews on the pablos and really really wanted to know more about them and actually see them. LOL!
E Psythiros I seriously looked at the Holbein's on ebay I believe and gah they are so expensive. LOL! I doubt I will be able to try them and I read they also don't come in open stock?
+Alicia Hadden Yes, they definitely aren't cool for being unavailable in open stock and the price is very expensive. Hopefully in the future, that will change.
Contacted the company. The Pablo color pencils are not oil based. Just started so it is a learning experience. I am used to Faber Castle poluchromos. Does anyone know how to blend? Great company to deal with. Was really impressed.
I like all three of them. Plus the Luminance. But the first three with Polychromos leading the way because they are easier to replenish.
I guess I am just confused, because you said you only use oil based now. Which is obviously Polychromos. But Holbein and Pablo are both very waxy pencils. Regardless of what they are labeled as. All pencils are both oil and wax. Just depends on how much in their brands recipe. But Pablo's are extremely waxy pencils. Thats why they don't layer as well as Polychromos. Same with Holbein. You can tell how much wax is in a pencil by using sanded paper and powder blender. Since powder blender won't work with waxier pencils and only move the pigment of true oil colored pencils.
This is a very old video, and I’d yet to find out about Pablo’s. I had read where they were oil based & really hadn’t noticed as much back then since I’d used pablos for details. Holbein are a mix of wax, oils, and fats. They are a unique hybrid kind of pencil and continue to remain one of my favorites. Since then, I use several different brands that are both oil and wax, just depending on the brand. I apologize for the confusion.
@@ArtistJane Hi Jane from what I have read Caran Dache had said all pencils are a mixture of oil and wax. It just depends on the ratio some will have more wax than oil the Pablo probably have more oil than wax. Thank you for the demonstration.
Battle of the kings
I’d heard that at least one third of Holbein pencils aren’t light fast. Not sure if that is true. Would you address this issue ?
I can work on this! I will go through the pencils and see. Thank you for the suggestion!
Like the Pablo and Polychromos, Holbein never tried, but my favorite is 1 Derwent Lightfast, 2 Carandache Luminance, 3 Fabercastell polychromos 4 Derwent Artists 5 Carandache Pablo, this is based in my experience, never tryied all the top pencils in the world
@ Hard colour pencils: Up to the 90s there were *colour pencils with a hardness between lead pencil HD and H. With those you had no limit of layers. You could sharpen usable tips, as fine as an etching needle. But alas, somewhere in the 2000s they were discontinued. Do you know a brand that goes in that direction?
*Faber Castell Goldfaber 4100.
I still use the Prismacolor pencils. I am still trying to figure out color theory and layering. Are there good ways to learn color theory outside of art school? By color theory I mean what colors can I blend together to create skintones and the like.
+S Werner If you want to learn color theory outside of art school, UA-cam and Google will be your friends. Creating skin tones can be tricky depending on what kind of portrait you're creating (whether it's from your imagination or a photo reference). If you want to stick to pure skin color tones that will help cover a variety of ethnicities, classic skin tone color like raw umber, burnt umber would be great for shadows and Sienna's are great for midtones. Lighter skin tones are usually included in most larger colored pencil sets. You have to kind of experiment to see what works for you. Sometimes a flesh tone may be too warm or cool, and you'll have to adjust it with layering something like a light cream/yellow or light blue. It takes practice, but you can get there.
Thanks so much. That is fabulous advice. I do a lot of youtube cruising and learn a lot from fabulous artist's like you that have provided great information. Thanks.
How did you get the Holbeins in the states? I can’t find anyone that sells them
Lookfor them on Amazon japan! I got mine from that site 4 months ago.
Thank you for the demonstrations. It is too bad that they are so expensive.
Hi, great video but I don’t speak English, the question is what is a good pen for combining polycromos? Thank you
u can use a blending stump
Thank you so much for such an outstanding review! you have equipped me with what I need to make the decision. Like both the Polychromos and holbein, unfortunately, my conundrum, like the quality of the FB, but color palette of the Holbein....
+john napoli Thank you, John! Seeing comments like yours and knowing I've helped you on your way to a decision is what makes creating videos like this worth while! I hope you enjoy (and I know you will) whichever brand you choose! And yes, the holbein palette is hard to beat! FB, however, has an amazing palette as well and both brands are high quality in performance! Best of future creating to you! Jane (AJ)
Thank you AJ. I'm a nut for the best quality but my work requires the most extensive palette possible and I use a lot of pastels so looks like I'm going to give up the edge on quality for the range
Thank you again. I couldn't have made the decision without you!
I realize this is an older video, but it's awesome! I just wanted to say my only "gripe" about the Polychromos is the palette. It seems to me as if they could've given us more browns and fewer pinks and purples. I feel like there aren't enough browns for some reason... I can never find the one I want. Haha.
That's why I have the pablo's too, they work great together
Browns and Reds, are the only issue with Polychromos. They don't have enough browns and they don't have a proper red, only some red-ish colours. They have a deep red and a kind of light red, but no red for some reason.
So cool! I love Faber Castel and you :)
+Diamants Jinx Aww! Thank you so much! Faber-Castell rocks!
+Diamants Jinx Thank you! You're a peach!
great job of the video how do you get all the colors to blend in that well please teach me how
+brandon smith Thank you! I use Mona Lisa Odorless Mineral Spirits and a filbert brush to blend them. Just takes some practice to blend to your liking.
I ordered the full set of polychromos earlier today and I was wondering if I should get a set of prismacolours with it? I've found the 72 set relatively cheap where I live but I think these are the newer ones of lower quality. I haven't yet really been able to experiment with it all (and I am slowly dieing until the polychromos arrive) but am wondering if getting the extra set would be useful for more colours, blending, ect. So any advice from the artists of the internet? I know this video is kinda old now but I figured it was kind of relevant to it. Thanks!
+MC Snow Golem I personally don't use modern Prismacolors or recommend them. The quality control has gone down hill and plus you will have plenty of colors to choose from with the Polychromos. You'll more than likely fall in love with them. If you can get your hands on vintage Prismacolors, say on eBay, I recommend those. I'll be having a giveaway soon with some vintage Prismas, so keep your eyes peeled for those. It's ultimately your choice, but I don't recommend Prismacolors anymore.
Southpaw Creative Arts oh ok thanks so much and that sounds great I'll look out for the giveaway! Now I just have to wait for the polychromos to arrive...
Jane i don't wanna sound bad but i got new prisma sets and they work like a charm never had a pencil break and they are rather good in blending the difference between polychromos and prism is that prisma run faster cuz they are soft wax based but polychroms are not but prisma are more blendy and times cheaper and 150 set is 70$ only
Thy run quick but work quick to the difference in quality of the pigment is about 10% or 15% but yup they run out faster but not tht fast 70$ is a steal tbh
Hello
What do you use with the brush after painting?
Can the gradient be made with water?
Thak You for sharing!
+Nayra Fernandez I don't believe the gradient can be achieved here since these are oil based pencils, and of course oil and water don't mix. You can get water soluble pencils like Art Grip by Faber-Castell and use a gradient effect with water. For care of the brush, I usually use the pink soap and warm water, and/or a brush conditioner.
Also no prisma? Ok since some specific artists get issue with them . However i ever got a lead broke with them ever Moving on
I get it polychromos are real good so is holbein but caran d'ache 6901 is better then both of them why isn't it there
11:57 called the heck OUT over here, right on time 😂
Hello¡¡¡¡¡Nice Video¡This pencil is Oil base?and I want to buy ilumínense set 76,but now l want to buy this set of Holbain,so,what do you recomend me?Thank you
+Mariaraquel Oliver Luminance are the best wax based pencils out there, and Holbein are oil based. I would try out a few open stock luminance and see how you like them and invest in a small set of the Holbein. Then you'll know if you want to invest in a larger set of the one you prefer! :) I hope that helps.
Thank you so much!
I love my Holbein! Personally I think they color so smooth and very vibrant
Yes they are! 🙌
as long as you don't sell art they're OK. They don't use the industry standard method to test lightfastness, but a "proprietary method". I just saw a video from a professional artist who will never use any of their products again because she can't trust them for being lightfast, even though she likes the colors and how they work. She can't in good conscience sell any piece made with them. That goes for their paints and other stuff too
I’ll be actually clearing up the confusion (hopefully) in a future video that’s in the works. It’ll be an announcement from Holbein, as I’ve collaborated with the VP of Holbein here in the US. So please take what you hear with a grain of salt, and not gospel.
@@ArtistJane well the lady read all of her emails back and forth with Holbein and they just kind of dropped the conversation abruptly when she pressed for a concrete answer. The few colored pencils I have are just for fun.
hi there...i'm fairly new to the online youtube artworld community..my channel is small right now, but i'm learning as i go along.. lol... i ran across your channel and first of all y would anyone thumbs down your video,,this is great review and it help me to make my decision on what to get...i just finished my Christmas series sketches of the 12 days of christmas in pencil and was going to my next medium choice(color pencil), wasn;t sure what was new out there, cause there is so much..with that said..new subbie here and i look forward to checking out more of your videos..
+denise wilson Welcome, Denise! I will have to check out your channel! Thank you for the feedback! Happy new year!
I'm getting to where I prefer hexagonal pencils. They don't roll all over. Pentel colored pencils are hexagon shaped. Also I just bought a 12 pack of FC metallic ones. Also hexagon.
I don't see which is which on your video.
I loved your program! But why d all American presenters insist on saying "you guys" so frequently! Why not just. "You"?
o
Honestly, I don’t know. It’s sort of a slang term for “everyone”, and we sometimes do it unconsciously. Love that you loved it! Thank you for watching!
Who was on top and who was on bottom :)
If money was no object ut you could only buy one brand which would you choose, Luminance or the Hobien?
Holbein - there’s a larger selection and even though Luminance pencils are incredible and gorgeous, I find myself using oil based pencils more.
@@ArtistJane but how about the holbein lightfastness? I`m simply curious to know how important to think about it at all. Cause as I see from reviews most of their pencils should fade faster than others.
I just actually did a lightfast test for red pencils, and Holbein did well as did Luminance (naturally).
did you blend them with water???
+Louis Audet No it's odorless mineral spirits.
I have full sets of all three manufacturers. The Polys are the worst pencils I've purchased. They are not oil based even though they claim this. Check the MSDS - the only true oil based pencils are Lyra and Feela.
Why are the polys the worst Pencils in your experience?
Hi, Jane!
What do You mean from Tombow Irojiten?
I’m not sure what you’re referring to because I didn’t bring up the Tombow Irojitin brand in this video. It’s a brand of colored pencils :)
@@ArtistJane Dear Jane,
I'm sorry, I put it wrong! I wanted to ask, what do you think of Tombow Irojiten?
Oooh! Ok haha! I understand now! I used to own some of the tombow irojitin, and while I loved them, I never found myself reaching for them as much. I loved how they layered, but they were a bit too “hard” in their leads for me. I wouldn’t mind having a few of them now and then for sketches. I do love how they have them arranged into “color dictionaries”. Very clever!
Liked your video---first time I have seen it. Lots of information which will come in handy. Mary Conroy. Toronto
Pablos might feel like oil pencils, but the are actually wax. Caran D'ache don't sell oil pencils. They only sell Pablo and Luminance as wax pencils, and the rest of their pencils are water soluble. 😉
I have Strapright Color Pencils set of 75 they seem ok to me I got them on amazon
I am using my regular is my prismacolor pencils right now
Yellow ledshedder. Pearl jam's color pencil cover band.
That’s hilarious!
I just noticed that the luminescence pencils are hexagonal. Won't be buying them any time soon.
The Caran D'ache pablo are wax based coloured pencils they just have a hard lead.
I’ve heard both since posting this 2 years ago, but the first information I’d heard of them was that they were oil based.
How about PRISMA COLOR DONT BE SAD 😭😊
You have a nice handwriting too!!
+Eduardo González Thank you!!!!!
You're miles away from perfect.
Men invented pencils so that implies that women have no clue they're WRONG when it comes to pencils.
You DO NOT sharpen pencils.
You WEAR IN THE POINT to a FACETED POINT.
Then you maintain the FACETED point all along the length of the pencil ✏️.
You haven't worn down the point enough so you're over applying the lead.
Your experience is WRONG.
I live in germany and i buyed faber castell pencils and they kost 50 euros😱😱😱😱😱 but ok😂😂 they are so good
ok thank u so much mam wish you a merry x mas......
thank you soo much
+Sukumal Sinha You're welcome! Here's to your future artistic success! 🍷👏🏼
The best pencil ever is carad d'ache 6901 where is that
Nicely done! With over 1,200 pencils in my possession I have to say Faber-Castell is #1, Caran D’Ache #2. Holbein is out of reach financially!
Thank you! I understand! I keep thinking “well...when this set runs out overall...will you want to buy another one and another one?”. They just need to make them available open stock here in the US once and for all!
Pablos are not oil based. They are wax.
I know. I’ve been corrected many times.
you have any facebook acount I am studying at first year in india I want to learn art from you please kindly give your profile name
+Sukumal Sinha It's best to follow me on my Instagram & here. You'll find more information that way, as I rarely use Facebook anymore.
+Sukumal Sinha My Instagram is @artistjaneb
I prefer prismacolor
W.O.W.
Caran d'Ache, of course.
I give u request in instagram check it out
With all due respect, Pablos are not in the top three. Luminance are. Frankly, Pablos suck. And you really should contact Caran d'ache. According to them, they do not make any oil based pencils. The difference between Pablos and Luminance are how the cores are processed. But they are both wax based.
It’s all subjective, and if they’re wax based (which if they are, they don’t perform like typical wax based pencils), then I’m ok with that. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Pablo’s. Luminance are great too. Love them - but at the time of filming this, I didn’t own them.
"pablos suck", It's quite an exaggeration imho
PS. Try not to drop your voice too much at end of sentences--front one teacher to another--no criticism -- hope this is helpful.
Prisma Color are better
+Tommaso P Simple opinions.