@@haloharry97 I've considered it too, for a personal theory of my own about the timeline. Long story short: All the previous games were coma hallucinations enabled by the Zonai device healing him, to help ensure that he retained his skills from prior to his near demise. And yes, that word choice is intentional. Demise is one of the enemies Link fights, after all. A nice aspect to this personal theory, is that it easily solves the question as to why there are so many reused characters in the series, even including Ganon in some form, and Zelda. Also, something to note. You might wonder, "If it was all a coma dream or hallucination, then why don't the pajama's show up in games that came out after Windwaker?" They're all preparation for the awakening phase. Windwaker was a warning of what could happen if he fails, and what is possible if he succeeds. That being him and zelda being freed from the cycle. Twilight princess got him back into the mindset of what he left off in. And it being reminiscent of OoT is due to OoT being one of his first hallucinations, while this will be one of his last. Helps keep things in order mentally. Kind of like 'picking up where he left off', since his most fresh and vivid mental processes will be after having just fought Ganon and lost (bad timeline OoT); and now it's showing him a future where he won instead but Ganon comes back. (Hmmm... BoTW?) And Skyward sword was some of his final memories coming back to him before he woke up back into his actual real hyrule. Or perhaps better explained as a foretelling of what might be, by the Zonai's device. Tears of the Kingdom and Skyward sword, have something in common after all. Finally, one last thing. What about the older games than OoT, or the gameboy ones, or Majoras Mask for that matter. MM we'll start off with. That's going to mostly stay the same as one of the more popular theories. Link being in purgatory. Except now it's his own coma hallucination of it, having experienced instead the victory timeline yet somehow still fell to his demise once again. This is the zonai device reminding him "hey bro, you're like at 1/10th of a heart here. And you really don't have much time left unless this is a sucess." Hence the 3 days and impending doom. Oracle games. Think of those as similar to when you are dreaming and you have one of those really strange dreams that doesn't really seem to make any sense, but you go along with it anyways. I say this because Link doesn't really retain much of any of those skills or abilities in, almost any of the games outside the gameboy entries. I figure this was probably something along the lines of the Zonai device going through some sort of mental reboot process. Hence why in the next bit we talk about 'Link's Awakening'. I think at this point, the device thought it could revive him, but failed. And so it had to go through the process some more with other games like Windwaker of course, and the oracle series. But what about LttP and Z1 and Z2? Essentially the zonai device was going through the process of rebuilding Link's mental memories of his world. But his brain is still processing everything the Zonai device thought wasn't necessary to go through. (hence why they are not the first games in the series timeline) In each of these scenarios, the zonai device is basically just creating actors out of Link's memories. OoT for instance puts a bigger emphasis on the fact that Link is alone without parents, because he is also without parents when he met his demise. And what is one of the main things most people think of when they meet theirs? Usually a beloved family member, like their parents. So that's a big thought process initially stuck in his mental loop it had to get through first. Hence the child link, and not just in OoT, but also LttP. Now, Minish Cap. His hat was teaching him puzzles. Cognitive training. Essentially the Zonai device took over as a character to help him in that situation. Similar with Navi, and Tatl. And the owl. (I forget its name). And now for the true final bit. Any similarities between games story elements on a more direct level, will be because of the zonai device reusing storylines it cooks up to keep him mentally entertained while kept in that coma while healing. Hence why some games appear to have direct references more than others. And BoTW of course had the most references since it all was referencing BoTW in some fashion.
@@IamMeHere2SeeIt is in Totk though, but I agree it should’ve had an interesting effect when worn, my idea might be to have the anti gravity feature everywhere but only during nighttime to symbolize the weird zany things that someone is capable of during dreams (like floating)
No, they didn't. Satoru Takizawa, the series art director since Majora's Mask, has been very open about the fact that he never liked the hat. In an interview he acknowledged the TP design as the closest he's ever gotten to make the hat look cool in his eyes, but it was still not cool enough for him. So when he got the opportunity to get rid of it in BotW, he took it.
It looked like Link was wearing a huge pillow case on his head. I’m glad they changed his design. The hood looks way better and blue just looks nicer when Link is running through green environments all the time.
@@XanderVJ He was stupid for doing that. I have always loved Link's hat in all of its forms throughout the series. It's iconic, it's how people recognize him.
My personal head cannon is that the hero's tunic is just a tradition for the hero, and since there hasn't been a hero for 10,000 years, the tradition was lost. The sheikah of 10,000 years ago, however, remembered this tradition, which is why they made him the "of the wild" set.
@@theupperroom1 the redhead one shown in that painting in Kakariko, he defeated Ganon 10,000 years before BoTW Link, when the divine beasts were first used. There's an armor set of him in TotK, he kinda looks like a Zonai tbh
Apparently that's the opinion of Satoru Takizawa, who's been working in the series since A Link to the Past", and became art director of the series in "Majora's Mask". And apparently, he NEVER liked the hat. Apparently he wanted to get rid of it since he joined the team, but he was never allowed to until BotW.
@@cremetem I disagree. The hat has always been one of Link's cool looking things, it was unique. Play Ocarina of Time/Twilight Princess again and tell me it looks dorky.
i think the reason that mightve been most important is that theres just tons of grass in botw, and it helps him not blend in. it would be more important for botw than other games because of the style of the graphics
@@KenikoBtrue, but you could always take a darker route like with TP, make him stand out that way, or at the least incorporate green onto the tunic in some fashion, rather than completely changing the colour.
@@mastere6115 considering the cell shaded style it really would’ve been hard. In every other Zelda even on the grass there’s a lot of brown paths to places, and on BotW that simply would not be the intent of the game
@@josephsorrow6203Lol it's mad goofy. Link makes it work, but he definitely looks cooler without it. But very iconic with it... Both are great designs
So was the Hero of Time after he returned from Termina yet instead of a blue colored shirt weaved by Ocarina of Time Zelda he instead wore the iconic owl-themed armor he would always carry beyond his very death as the _Hero's Shade_ in Twilight Princess. It was clearly a simple design choice from Nintendo's part rather than an in-Lore explanation.
@@roxlife8173 He's supposed to look silly. All that expressive facial animation and movement is specifically designed not to be "cool" but silly and fun
That's the reason they used to justify removing the green hat. They obviously made that design choice before coming up with the whole "zelda's champion" excuse
Link’s green cap and tunic is like Batman’s outfit. He is the dark knight protecting the city at night and looks cool and menacing, but once he is out of element in the daytime, he looks like a weirdo in a bat suit. 😅
Link doesn’t need to look “cool”. What makes him cool are his actions. I loved BOTW and TOTK, but you better believe that I wore the green amiibo tunics throughout the whole thing
@@flyingsky1559 but the funny thing is that he still looked cool regardless! 🤩 I think JeremySolo had it on point that his actions and heroism really shined
Fierce Deity Link and Twilight Link are the two most badass versions of Link and they would just look less interesting without the cap. The cap made the outfit work and the way Link carried himself pulled it off. The cap looks bad if the link they made is also not that interesting. In short Link makes the Cap cool. I never wear the Hero Tunic and dye the Hylian Armor Green and then put on the Zora Helm (also dyed Green) it looks like Classic Link with an appropriately updated Tunic
@@M4x_P0w3runique doesnt mean good and botw link is a good design they could have gone with a basic short haired two coloured plain outfit but they gave him stuff the still makes it recognisable and not ugly as shit like the tunic and hat
Yep. It’s almost like one of the biggest gaming companies in the world has never heard of character design and the importance of recognizable silhouette.
@@archie6890And Mario isn't recognizable as a plumber. Seriously, why change something major, and break tradition/recognition from a character like that? Sure, Link has his outfits, and Mario does as well. Oh well, great game, awesome you can still choose the tunic from outfits, but Link *makes* the green tunic and hat *his*
As one in Green, Blue was a sign of royalty, a blue tunic made by the daughter of King Bosphoramus Hyrule, to commend the achievement of a Champion, chosen to pilot an ancient vehicle, Technically Monk Maz Koshia Gave Zelda Links Tunic as BOTW Link controls the Master Cycle Zero.
Fuck that!! I hated the blue and always will!! He was originally made that way and we all need tobjust agree that its called "the heroes tunic" for a damn REASON!!!!
Both are nice, but at the moment I prefer no hat, specifically because it's nice asking him wear so many some new outfits. I always kind of wished there were more. :]
“It was hard making link look good with his green hat” Me thinking of Twilight Link. Remember a piece of official art work in a cover of game magazine promoting TP and Project Revolution. Link was in cliff surronded by skeleton enemies. Where even the hat looked serius with all it's details in the art. Link being blue in a battle field of green grass just makes him a perfect target.
Sure, but botw locked the tunic behind the stipulation that you needed to complete 75% of the game to get. For fans who like the tunic, assuming amiibos are not easy accessible (imagine playing botw in 2117) this seems like its done out of spite, as one of the lead developers hates the runic design.
@@RanOutOfSpac These are the same developers who reward getting 999 korok seeds with golden poop. I dont hold it against them, but it was definitely done to force a change of perspective.
The hat is a throwback to classic fantasy where gnomes and fairy-folk wore pointed caps. Of course it doesn't match modern aesthetic ideals but that's the point.
Because he finally decided to wear the blue ring all the time and upgrade his armor instead of stopping to pick it up halfway through the journey before getting the red ring! Eventually he'll just wear the red ring as a default! I mean the guy has earned it 100 times it would make sense if you would just carry it from game to game and start with 3/4 defense reduction
I personally love the blue, I think it looks super cool and I love how it stands out. I also love the feature in botw and totk that allows you to dye stuff
It also makes a lot of sense as BotW is the first game to break away from any feasible point on the pre-established timeline of games, where they all follow the tradition of"what the hero of legend wore", but since BotW is separate from all the other games where he wore green, they had no previous Hero of Hyrule to pull from, thus making the design be lost to time.
I purchased a set of amiibo cards from Amazon specifically so I could unlock the OOT outfit. The blue tunic and mullet were weird choices. Even more so in TOTK.
I personally adore the look of a Hylian tunic, which is red and leather brown. It contracts even better with the green environment and makes Link look like a true wanderer he is in BoTW :D
That is my preferred outfit of choice, when playing BotW (since I can't have the classic Link look- I ain't spending money on amiibos just to have an outfit). I think the Hylian tunic looks much better than the Champion's tunic, which IMO just looks like a comfy pajama shirt and not really "heroic" in any way.
My answer is because BotW and TotK aren't the "zelda" franchise proper anymore, they're their own new thing. As I've been saying pretty much since '17, "The zelda franchise is dead, long live the BotW era". If you look at that recent Nintendo Direct trailer where Zelda is the playable character, the one that looks much closer to the spirit of the zelda franchise, link does have his green tunic. However, Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity ? Blue tunic. It signals the biggest shift ever in the franchise, towards BotW style content instead of the semi-linear style that has been prevalent since ALTTP.
You know what's not cool? The money they didn't make because it was published during their low effort niche generations that tried to compete with gimmicks instead of computing power likely in an attempt to retain fans (mostly children) and save money on hardware production.
How did they think it was hard to make link look cool with the hat? They successfully did exactly that for like 30 years prior to BoTW. Frankly, the hat is his coolest looking item.
Blue was also Link's secondary color since "Ocarina of Time". Primarily the Hylian Shield, and even the Master Sword in some instances. While the hilt is technically indigo, depending on the lighting, it looks more bluish very often. So it doesn't look that out of place compared to other colors. Also, this makes Link Nintendo's biggest character with blue as their main color. Before Link, the only main Nintendo character associated with that color was Captain Falcon, which is a C-lister at best (sorry, F-Zero fans. Not the games' fault), while Link's green overlapped with Luigi's.
Good point, can't have our main man Link in the same colors as green Mario! (Forgive me Luigi, you will always be the best Mario, no Mario Marios for me, just Luigi Marios and Luigi's Mansions and I'm set for life. Please don't smite me. 🥺 )
I get the symbolism and importance to Link that the color green has, but having Link contrast better with the environment is definitely a good reason for the change. Just wish that maybe they could have added more green accents though.
To be honest, I'm not interested. The green clothes were almost always explained by the fact that he came from the Kokiri forest and wore the traditional clothes, for me. But in a setting where he's a knight and was never a Kokiri, he doesn't have to look like a forest gnome. I also don't know why people get hung up on the clothes or hype the stuff. I loved wearing different clothes in BOTW and the green stuff was the very last thing I wanted to wear. Of course I didn't think the green outfit was stupid, but it's unnecessary to judge a game on it.
As I read more and more replies, I find that a lot of the older Zelda fans just want Nintendo to keep releasing OoT forever and ever and never deviate. Glad you're not one of them.
@@cpurizumu that statement about BotW and TotK is objectively wrong but okay. I understand that people want more of what they like, but to just want a billion OoT clones that have a formula and never deviate is idiotic.
Truly believe BOTW/TOTK takes place in the “Adult Era” the Hyrule is the one from Spirit Tracks, the only other time Link has been in “Toon-Style” was in his Blue lobster outfit in Wind Waker. Spirit Tracks Link, the decedent of WW, also wears different colours, Blue and Red. That’s my theory.
@@XanderVJwhat you said makes no sense, if that were true, stories could not be written. Called being faithful, not creating plot holes. If you cannot be creative enough, to create a good story, that is your fault, not the people. So yes, I can, there will always be three timelines. In universe is the only way you can explain a story detail. Called writing a story/plot. Something Nintendo has forgotten, and the fan base.
@@GoronMerchant A retroactive story justification can be unsatisfying for some people, but I should point out that there are multiple ways that stories are able to be justified. Literature majors use "Watsonian" and "Doylist" explanations for in-universe and out-of-universe explanations respectively. The problem is that Zelda games were never really developed with the idea of an overarching massive story structure like other media franchises. It was meant to be more like Mario in that regard, with each game being a different self-contained story using recurring characters kind of like a myth. Sure there would be references between games, and occaisionally direct sequels like with OoT and MM, but the intentions weren't to make a huge "Zelda Cinematic Universe" that was wholly consistent or accurate (case in point: the geography between games being absurdly different having to be handwaved away by writers as "oh that just happens sometimes, Hylians are used to it") With that said that doesn't make them less legitimate. I like the 3-timeline divergence at OoT, and I think that it makes sense to try and connect the stories together in a satisfying way. Some people don't like that and feel it takes away from the "mythos," or it relies on too much out-of-universe justification. It's not a sign of a lack of creativity at all, I think it's great, but there is also some merit in disliking the timeline as some fixed canon.
its a reboot that exists at the end off all timelines. but they never said if its a merging of timelines or if all timelines just inevitably turn into Botw.
gonna be honest, I hold onto the past so much with this franchise, so BOTW and TOTK are esaily my least favorite link and zelda designs. when I first saw it and heard the story on how they came to be, it made sense, but it didn't make me like it anymore. I miss his hat, so now I wear the OOT or TP outfit in TOTK all the time 😭
I honestly prefer wearing the regular Hylian tunic and climbing banana than ever wearing the new brand of clothing. Like, the Hylian tunic died green looks better than any of them anyway. Only reason mine isn't is because I only get one bandana so I rather pull off a "Goron Tunic" look that matches.
I get tired of theese fake fact videos. He had the exact same color in the start of wind waker. And the new games has more clothes to choose from than any other. Including the classic green, with hat.
It also is a really nice way to show how there are a lot of outfits to pick from now. Instead of giving him his usual clothing you can choose from a large variety of clothes.
i think it also fits with the themes of loss of identity and melancholy in botw. link was not link anymore. he had to find bits and pieces of himself back in a world that moved on. even in the memory cutscenes, you feel detached from this link because he's so different and i think that's 100% intentional never take a bit design change just at face value or for the shock of it. maybe sometimes it's for shock but a character's design is the most efficient way to passively convey their story.
I was more upset that starting with Skyward Sword they made Link right-handed. As a left-handed kid growing up, it was so nice (and rare) to have heroic lefty representation. Bring back lefty Link!
Yeah, people don't seem to realize how little (i.e. basically none) heroic and _competent_ lefty representation there was in media and then Aonuma took away the _only_ one we had because of his seething disdain for left-handed people.
@RabblesTheBinx Seething disdain- what??? Look, I understand you're upset and even though I'm righthanded myself I consider lefty Link too iconic not to have back, but you can't seriously think this was done maliciously by the devs, it's just a carryover from motion controls. If you want to go deeper, aside from Twilight Princess on Wii mirroring the entire game, every righthanded Link was a trained knight who would in all likelihood be trained to fight like he's righthanded
@@shinobirecords2018 I think they were being a bit tongue and cheek - I strongly doubt they’re seriously suggesting that Aonuma has literal “seething disdain for left handed people” 😂
Am I the only person that thought that Link being dead then revived into his Blue outfit was a direct reference to how beating Wind Waker had you stick to the blue outfit for your NG+. Link's first adventure ended before you play BotW, you take over for part 2. The outfits even look pretty similar (emphasis on similar). Before anyone says it, yes, I know NG+ WW outfit was canonically not blue, but something the player and most NPCs couldn't see without Magic Armor.
Link slumbered for 100 years. He just woke up in his wind waker pajamas and went off to save hyrule.
lol
Am glad am not the only one who thought of that.
he went to war without camo because the artsy fartsy types don't care about tactics.
@@JFFF6293 lol
@@haloharry97 I've considered it too, for a personal theory of my own about the timeline. Long story short: All the previous games were coma hallucinations enabled by the Zonai device healing him, to help ensure that he retained his skills from prior to his near demise.
And yes, that word choice is intentional. Demise is one of the enemies Link fights, after all.
A nice aspect to this personal theory, is that it easily solves the question as to why there are so many reused characters in the series, even including Ganon in some form, and Zelda.
Also, something to note. You might wonder, "If it was all a coma dream or hallucination, then why don't the pajama's show up in games that came out after Windwaker?"
They're all preparation for the awakening phase.
Windwaker was a warning of what could happen if he fails, and what is possible if he succeeds. That being him and zelda being freed from the cycle.
Twilight princess got him back into the mindset of what he left off in. And it being reminiscent of OoT is due to OoT being one of his first hallucinations, while this will be one of his last. Helps keep things in order mentally. Kind of like 'picking up where he left off', since his most fresh and vivid mental processes will be after having just fought Ganon and lost (bad timeline OoT); and now it's showing him a future where he won instead but Ganon comes back. (Hmmm... BoTW?)
And Skyward sword was some of his final memories coming back to him before he woke up back into his actual real hyrule. Or perhaps better explained as a foretelling of what might be, by the Zonai's device. Tears of the Kingdom and Skyward sword, have something in common after all.
Finally, one last thing. What about the older games than OoT, or the gameboy ones, or Majoras Mask for that matter.
MM we'll start off with. That's going to mostly stay the same as one of the more popular theories. Link being in purgatory. Except now it's his own coma hallucination of it, having experienced instead the victory timeline yet somehow still fell to his demise once again. This is the zonai device reminding him "hey bro, you're like at 1/10th of a heart here. And you really don't have much time left unless this is a sucess." Hence the 3 days and impending doom.
Oracle games. Think of those as similar to when you are dreaming and you have one of those really strange dreams that doesn't really seem to make any sense, but you go along with it anyways. I say this because Link doesn't really retain much of any of those skills or abilities in, almost any of the games outside the gameboy entries. I figure this was probably something along the lines of the Zonai device going through some sort of mental reboot process. Hence why in the next bit we talk about 'Link's Awakening'.
I think at this point, the device thought it could revive him, but failed. And so it had to go through the process some more with other games like Windwaker of course, and the oracle series.
But what about LttP and Z1 and Z2?
Essentially the zonai device was going through the process of rebuilding Link's mental memories of his world. But his brain is still processing everything the Zonai device thought wasn't necessary to go through. (hence why they are not the first games in the series timeline)
In each of these scenarios, the zonai device is basically just creating actors out of Link's memories. OoT for instance puts a bigger emphasis on the fact that Link is alone without parents, because he is also without parents when he met his demise. And what is one of the main things most people think of when they meet theirs? Usually a beloved family member, like their parents.
So that's a big thought process initially stuck in his mental loop it had to get through first. Hence the child link, and not just in OoT, but also LttP.
Now, Minish Cap.
His hat was teaching him puzzles. Cognitive training. Essentially the Zonai device took over as a character to help him in that situation. Similar with Navi, and Tatl. And the owl. (I forget its name).
And now for the true final bit.
Any similarities between games story elements on a more direct level, will be because of the zonai device reusing storylines it cooks up to keep him mentally entertained while kept in that coma while healing.
Hence why some games appear to have direct references more than others.
And BoTW of course had the most references since it all was referencing BoTW in some fashion.
Toon Link's pajama/blue shirt, white crab outfit is still my favorite blue outfit in the series.
100% agreed
If it were in TotK, I feel it should award you a bonus heart every time you rested while wearing it.
@@IamMeHere2SeeIt is in Totk though, but I agree it should’ve had an interesting effect when worn, my idea might be to have the anti gravity feature everywhere but only during nighttime to symbolize the weird zany things that someone is capable of during dreams (like floating)
@@briana1273 Dang. Where is it? I haven't found it.
@@IamMeHere2See It’s by lurelin village on the shores in a treasure chest and it looks absolutely adorable on this incarnation of Link :3
“It was hard making link look good with his green hat” did they forget twilight princess link!?!?!
No, they didn't.
Satoru Takizawa, the series art director since Majora's Mask, has been very open about the fact that he never liked the hat.
In an interview he acknowledged the TP design as the closest he's ever gotten to make the hat look cool in his eyes, but it was still not cool enough for him.
So when he got the opportunity to get rid of it in BotW, he took it.
And skyward sword, and ocarina, and majora Link almost always looked cool (from fan pov at least)
It looked like Link was wearing a huge pillow case on his head. I’m glad they changed his design. The hood looks way better and blue just looks nicer when Link is running through green environments all the time.
Or fierce deity or the hero of time outfit in botw/totk
@@XanderVJ He was stupid for doing that. I have always loved Link's hat in all of its forms throughout the series. It's iconic, it's how people recognize him.
The hat gave him a woodland fantasy vibe that fit well with the setting.
"It was hard to make him look cool in his hat" while every player b-lines to the nearest Hero Cap in both games
Exactly. Idiot developers were clearly not fans of the series. Wanted to project their lame ideas of what's "cool" onto the fans.
@@Natef89 not that deep, link looks goofy with the green hat in botw
@@zervothas a botw player, no he doesn't
@@ZenganTheFool As a TotK player, I like his long hair better.
@@Pine_Time that's irrelevant, his hair is good in every game, but that doesn't prevent him from wearing a hat
My personal head cannon is that the hero's tunic is just a tradition for the hero, and since there hasn't been a hero for 10,000 years, the tradition was lost. The sheikah of 10,000 years ago, however, remembered this tradition, which is why they made him the "of the wild" set.
it was a lot longer then 10,000 years. the 10,000 years ago was when they made the divine beast and stuff
@@diamondly6250there was a hero 10,000 years ago but i don’t think he wore the green tunic either
@@presleychan8998 not my hero💔
Who was the Hero before the Hero of The Wild?
@@theupperroom1 the redhead one shown in that painting in Kakariko, he defeated Ganon 10,000 years before BoTW Link, when the divine beasts were first used. There's an armor set of him in TotK, he kinda looks like a Zonai tbh
"It's hard to look cool while wearing a stupid pointy green hat."
That's why Link is wielder of the Triforce of Courage.
That's because if you wear a blue tunic you have to wear a YELLOW hat
Ever heard of Peter Pot?
@@DETECTIVEUNFUNNYno who tf is Peter pot?
@@KolakattenThat famous character for Bisney.
@@DETECTIVEUNFUNNY ohhh yeah bisney I grew up with bisney
Am I crazy I always thought the cap made him cooler
No, you're not. Something about that hat just makes him look so much more badass
Apparently that's the opinion of Satoru Takizawa, who's been working in the series since A Link to the Past", and became art director of the series in "Majora's Mask".
And apparently, he NEVER liked the hat. Apparently he wanted to get rid of it since he joined the team, but he was never allowed to until BotW.
@@XanderVJ dang why does he hates it so much I wonder
@@anameofmine thanks
@Theanimefanidk what was the reason, guys comment was deleted
''Hard to make Link look cool with the green hat.'' Like... What? It's one of the most iconic and COOL things about Link, the pointy hat looks dope!
no it looks dorky
@@cremetem I disagree. The hat has always been one of Link's cool looking things, it was unique. Play Ocarina of Time/Twilight Princess again and tell me it looks dorky.
@@cremetemThe short ponytail and bright blue looks dorky. TP Link with his hat is anything but dorky in comparison.
@@cremetemyou look dorky
(Kindergarten fight)
Link has drifted away from his Peter Pan origins 😢
Imagine if Feirce Deity Link, the single most coolest variety of link they've ever invented, had no cap! All his aura gone, reduced to atoms!
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I could picture Feirce Deity Link wearing a jeweled headpiece similar to Ganon. With the long white hair that might actually look amazing.
@@84warheadyou mean the Goku hair? It definitely would look amazing
nah he’d look cool with the ponytail or even TOTK long hair
Imagine if he had a SS3/Inyasha/Riazan hair. It would fit the whole wild godlike power thing.
i think the reason that mightve been most important is that theres just tons of grass in botw, and it helps him not blend in. it would be more important for botw than other games because of the style of the graphics
Idk because there are plenty of zelda games with a lot of grass, plus the green tunic does exist in the game but i dont think its canon to the story
@@Mr.Scott86like they said, it's more important for BOTW because of the graphics style
@@KenikoBtrue, but you could always take a darker route like with TP, make him stand out that way, or at the least incorporate green onto the tunic in some fashion, rather than completely changing the colour.
@@mastere6115 considering the cell shaded style it really would’ve been hard. In every other Zelda even on the grass there’s a lot of brown paths to places, and on BotW that simply would not be the intent of the game
Other Zelda games have grass in them yet Link never blended in.
“He didn’t look cool with his hat” is such a crazy take
yet true
@@OwnyOnefalse the hat is iconic and BA
@@josephsorrow6203 ofc it's iconic after decades but still kinda goofy for adult link, we're just used to it
yeah, at this point the hat is cool *because* it's links hat
@@josephsorrow6203Lol it's mad goofy. Link makes it work, but he definitely looks cooler without it. But very iconic with it... Both are great designs
Nintendo saying links hat wasn’t cool was the biggest shit take they’ve ever made
“Hard to make link look cool in green” twilight princess and OoT would like a word with you
I think it’s because BOTW Link is a knight to the royal family. Which is blue
So was the Hero of Time after he returned from Termina yet instead of a blue colored shirt weaved by Ocarina of Time Zelda he instead wore the iconic owl-themed armor he would always carry beyond his very death as the _Hero's Shade_ in Twilight Princess. It was clearly a simple design choice from Nintendo's part rather than an in-Lore explanation.
That's a retroactive explanation to justify in universe.
That's an in-universe explanation, video was talking about irl reasons.
oh yes that also make more sense with how the whole game really is
Starting with the 1st Hyrule Warriors game, yes
They did not just say link can’t look cool in green😭 twilight princess link and adult ocarina of time link are some of my favourite designs
No disrespect to wind water but bro did not look cool in that tunic, he looks like a homeless tingle.
@@roxlife8173 wrong. Tingle is literally homeless link. Fake fan.
@@roxlife8173…Wind Waker link is still visibly a child.
Link in OoT and TP are adults
@@roxlife8173 He's supposed to look silly. All that expressive facial animation and movement is specifically designed not to be "cool" but silly and fun
Link always looked cool. Especially in the old official art from the 80's
"Link's hat wasnt cool enough."
Me looking back at almost the entire franchise
For me, when i beat Totk for the first time i wore the Time Set. As that was my first Zelda game, and it brings me Nostalgia.
Blue is the color of Zelda's Champions. He only gets the green tunic representing the goddesses' Hero after defeating every Shrine they had for him.
That's the reason they used to justify removing the green hat. They obviously made that design choice before coming up with the whole "zelda's champion" excuse
It always reminds me of the crawfish shirt link wears in Wind Waker
it's so adorbsss
Nah Twilight Princess was peak Design for Link's Gear He's never looked cooler before or since
i really liked TP Link, the Chainmail under the tunic was the best.
I had such a huge crush on TP Link it's not even funny. 😩
@@_l1ghtsk1n_jesus_53 ahem, ocarina of time
@@kohaiame2691 same
@@kohaiame2691 Same, but I'm a straight male
The hat distinguishes the character and makes him instantly recognizable
Link’s green cap and tunic is like Batman’s outfit. He is the dark knight protecting the city at night and looks cool and menacing, but once he is out of element in the daytime, he looks like a weirdo in a bat suit. 😅
Link doesn’t need to look “cool”. What makes him cool are his actions. I loved BOTW and TOTK, but you better believe that I wore the green amiibo tunics throughout the whole thing
Same way Wind Waker Link looks cool when he's flippin' and dippin'
Hyaaaah
Oot Link was designed to not look cool, what with the tights and all. I have heard he was designed to be handsome, but not cool.
@@flyingsky1559 but the funny thing is that he still looked cool regardless! 🤩 I think JeremySolo had it on point that his actions and heroism really shined
I miss the default green tunic and hat so much. It's like having Mario without his hat and overalls, it's their signature look.
The hat wasn’t cool but link made it cool and it’s only cool on link. It gives a much better silhouette
Exactly. Link without his hat has a less recognizable outline. It's just less unique.
Fierce Deity Link and Twilight Link are the two most badass versions of Link and they would just look less interesting without the cap. The cap made the outfit work and the way Link carried himself pulled it off. The cap looks bad if the link they made is also not that interesting. In short Link makes the Cap cool. I never wear the Hero Tunic and dye the Hylian Armor Green and then put on the Zora Helm (also dyed Green) it looks like Classic Link with an appropriately updated Tunic
@@M4x_P0w3runique doesnt mean good and botw link is a good design they could have gone with a basic short haired two coloured plain outfit but they gave him stuff the still makes it recognisable and not ugly as shit like the tunic and hat
Yep. It’s almost like one of the biggest gaming companies in the world has never heard of character design and the importance of recognizable silhouette.
@@archie6890And Mario isn't recognizable as a plumber. Seriously, why change something major, and break tradition/recognition from a character like that? Sure, Link has his outfits, and Mario does as well. Oh well, great game, awesome you can still choose the tunic from outfits, but Link *makes* the green tunic and hat *his*
Imagine if they had this "not looking cool with hat" dilemma with Mario
As one in Green, Blue was a sign of royalty, a blue tunic made by the daughter of King Bosphoramus Hyrule, to commend the achievement of a Champion, chosen to pilot an ancient vehicle, Technically Monk Maz Koshia Gave Zelda Links Tunic as BOTW Link controls the Master Cycle Zero.
Fuck that!! I hated the blue and always will!! He was originally made that way and we all need tobjust agree that its called "the heroes tunic" for a damn REASON!!!!
The only blue tunic I respect is the lobster shirt from wind waker.
Lobster forever
Lobster shirt is in tears of the kingdom!😊
We are on the verge of World War III, and all you care about is if pixels on a screen have different colors than those you remember from childhood?
@@gregorybrooks6951it was in BotW before that
@@ЕгорСкорик-щ3в oh lol I just found it in totk
Both blue and green suits him very nicely
Same
I'm personally a fan of no hat. I primarily stuck to the earrings once I got them.
@@84warhead in general hat or no hat he still looks amazing
Both are nice, but at the moment I prefer no hat, specifically because it's nice asking him wear so many some new outfits. I always kind of wished there were more. :]
@@Cinnaschticks his hair in every game is so cool and very pretty and I sometimes wish I could just play the game without the tunic
“It was hard making link look good with his green hat”
Me thinking of Twilight Link.
Remember a piece of official art work in a cover of game magazine promoting TP and Project Revolution.
Link was in cliff surronded by skeleton enemies.
Where even the hat looked serius with all it's details in the art.
Link being blue in a battle field of green grass just makes him a perfect target.
I always thought the hat was his most iconic part
And i dont like it.
Thats it. Thats the comment.
The cool, iconic part of Link's design IS the green hat and tunic.
Green tunic always looks cool
I do miss the original desings of his outfit.
I’m 100% okay with giving Link new outfits. There’s a point where tradition becomes constriction.
Sure, but botw locked the tunic behind the stipulation that you needed to complete 75% of the game to get.
For fans who like the tunic, assuming amiibos are not easy accessible (imagine playing botw in 2117) this seems like its done out of spite, as one of the lead developers hates the runic design.
@@unheard1827 I really don’t see that as spite. That’s a bit of an exaggeration.
@@RanOutOfSpac These are the same developers who reward getting 999 korok seeds with golden poop. I dont hold it against them, but it was definitely done to force a change of perspective.
@@unheard1827 Golden poop is cool though
Just another reason botw and totk are horrible zelda games.
Excuse me but the hat was ALWAYS the coolest part
I wear the twilight cap in TOTK. It’s the best one.
You forgot about Wind's Outset Island outfit. Also you can unlock the Hero of the Wild set in both games and HW: AoC.
Link's hat made him look like a badass in my opinion
you know it's a good design when it's the thing that's never changed during the concept phase
It sucks
The hat is a throwback to classic fantasy where gnomes and fairy-folk wore pointed caps. Of course it doesn't match modern aesthetic ideals but that's the point.
"hard to make him look cool with his green hat" there's is NO way they said that after 20 games, imo link looks cooler WITH his green tunic/hat.
Because he finally decided to wear the blue ring all the time and upgrade his armor instead of stopping to pick it up halfway through the journey before getting the red ring! Eventually he'll just wear the red ring as a default! I mean the guy has earned it 100 times it would make sense if you would just carry it from game to game and start with 3/4 defense reduction
Twilight Princess Link = Coolest
(Even with his "silly green hat")
I personally love the blue, I think it looks super cool and I love how it stands out. I also love the feature in botw and totk that allows you to dye stuff
Bro they took away what made link recognizable though. He looks like cloud strife now.
It also makes a lot of sense as BotW is the first game to break away from any feasible point on the pre-established timeline of games, where they all follow the tradition of"what the hero of legend wore", but since BotW is separate from all the other games where he wore green, they had no previous Hero of Hyrule to pull from, thus making the design be lost to time.
"It's hard to make Link look cool with his green hat."
His hat didn't make him look cool. His hat made him look ICONIC.
I purchased a set of amiibo cards from Amazon specifically so I could unlock the OOT outfit. The blue tunic and mullet were weird choices. Even more so in TOTK.
I personally adore the look of a Hylian tunic, which is red and leather brown. It contracts even better with the green environment and makes Link look like a true wanderer he is in BoTW :D
That is my preferred outfit of choice, when playing BotW (since I can't have the classic Link look- I ain't spending money on amiibos just to have an outfit). I think the Hylian tunic looks much better than the Champion's tunic, which IMO just looks like a comfy pajama shirt and not really "heroic" in any way.
Green is back with the new 2D Zelda game
Miss the green
My answer is because BotW and TotK aren't the "zelda" franchise proper anymore, they're their own new thing. As I've been saying pretty much since '17, "The zelda franchise is dead, long live the BotW era".
If you look at that recent Nintendo Direct trailer where Zelda is the playable character, the one that looks much closer to the spirit of the zelda franchise, link does have his green tunic. However, Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity ? Blue tunic. It signals the biggest shift ever in the franchise, towards BotW style content instead of the semi-linear style that has been prevalent since ALTTP.
He wears blue in A Link Between Worlds in the Hero mode, Link in BOTW is already the Hero of Hyrule, so he’s garbed in blue instead of civilian greens
People think the green hat looks lame? It just looks like it’s a part of his outfit. Nothing lame about it, if anything it just looks neutral.
Because Aonuma hates Zelda 😢
That’s why I made my hylian hood and tunic green in my TOTK play through
Same!
They did a fantastic job in twighlight. Idk what’s not cool about a dude wearing a green tunic with chainmail and a sword.
You know what's not cool? The money they didn't make because it was published during their low effort niche generations that tried to compete with gimmicks instead of computing power likely in an attempt to retain fans (mostly children) and save money on hardware production.
@@zachweyrauch2988 yeah that part of Nintendo is pretty trash. They do great on handhelds but suck at releasing a great competing console
How did they think it was hard to make link look cool with the hat? They successfully did exactly that for like 30 years prior to BoTW. Frankly, the hat is his coolest looking item.
My TOTK link always wore the green suit and hat
Blue was also Link's secondary color since "Ocarina of Time". Primarily the Hylian Shield, and even the Master Sword in some instances. While the hilt is technically indigo, depending on the lighting, it looks more bluish very often. So it doesn't look that out of place compared to other colors.
Also, this makes Link Nintendo's biggest character with blue as their main color. Before Link, the only main Nintendo character associated with that color was Captain Falcon, which is a C-lister at best (sorry, F-Zero fans. Not the games' fault), while Link's green overlapped with Luigi's.
Good point, can't have our main man Link in the same colors as green Mario!
(Forgive me Luigi, you will always be the best Mario, no Mario Marios for me, just Luigi Marios and Luigi's Mansions and I'm set for life. Please don't smite me. 🥺 )
As obscure as the Fire emblem games were, many of their protagonists also wore blue, in all kinds of shades too. So there's that.
Should’ve kept the hat though
I do think the blue was the right idea to contrast with the green terrain but the removal of the hat is pretty funny.
Sorry to Zelda purists or whatever but yes links hat has always looked stupid even in TP where his outfit objectively looked the best before BOTW
Honestly, link looks better wearing green in BOTW. They should’ve stuck to green
Link not having his green tunic all the time is the worst part of breath of the wild
It not being there made you miss it. Therefore making it feel better when you do have it
I get the symbolism and importance to Link that the color green has, but having Link contrast better with the environment is definitely a good reason for the change. Just wish that maybe they could have added more green accents though.
To be honest, I'm not interested. The green clothes were almost always explained by the fact that he came from the Kokiri forest and wore the traditional clothes, for me.
But in a setting where he's a knight and was never a Kokiri, he doesn't have to look like a forest gnome. I also don't know why people get hung up on the clothes or hype the stuff. I loved wearing different clothes in BOTW and the green stuff was the very last thing I wanted to wear. Of course I didn't think the green outfit was stupid, but it's unnecessary to judge a game on it.
Hot take... Link is iconic in green
As I read more and more replies, I find that a lot of the older Zelda fans just want Nintendo to keep releasing OoT forever and ever and never deviate. Glad you're not one of them.
Not a single person in these comments has said that. I hate this ridiculous strawman take.
@@unoriginal2552 No shit fans want more of the things they like. BotW and TotK are Zelda games for people who dislike Zelda games.
@@cpurizumu that statement about BotW and TotK is objectively wrong but okay.
I understand that people want more of what they like, but to just want a billion OoT clones that have a formula and never deviate is idiotic.
It’s not “breaking conventions.” It’s just ignoring what made the series so great to begin with. Modern Zelda is a disgrace.
Tbh, I wish more game characters would change up their outfits with every entry.
Truly believe BOTW/TOTK takes place in the “Adult Era” the Hyrule is the one from Spirit Tracks, the only other time Link has been in “Toon-Style” was in his Blue lobster outfit in Wind Waker.
Spirit Tracks Link, the decedent of WW, also wears different colours, Blue and Red.
That’s my theory.
Any in universe explanation will only be retroactive. You cannot explain it like that.
@@XanderVJwhat you said makes no sense, if that were true, stories could not be written.
Called being faithful, not creating plot holes.
If you cannot be creative enough, to create a good story, that is your fault, not the people.
So yes, I can, there will always be three timelines.
In universe is the only way you can explain a story detail. Called writing a story/plot. Something Nintendo has forgotten, and the fan base.
@@GoronMerchant A retroactive story justification can be unsatisfying for some people, but I should point out that there are multiple ways that stories are able to be justified. Literature majors use "Watsonian" and "Doylist" explanations for in-universe and out-of-universe explanations respectively.
The problem is that Zelda games were never really developed with the idea of an overarching massive story structure like other media franchises. It was meant to be more like Mario in that regard, with each game being a different self-contained story using recurring characters kind of like a myth. Sure there would be references between games, and occaisionally direct sequels like with OoT and MM, but the intentions weren't to make a huge "Zelda Cinematic Universe" that was wholly consistent or accurate (case in point: the geography between games being absurdly different having to be handwaved away by writers as "oh that just happens sometimes, Hylians are used to it")
With that said that doesn't make them less legitimate. I like the 3-timeline divergence at OoT, and I think that it makes sense to try and connect the stories together in a satisfying way. Some people don't like that and feel it takes away from the "mythos," or it relies on too much out-of-universe justification. It's not a sign of a lack of creativity at all, I think it's great, but there is also some merit in disliking the timeline as some fixed canon.
its a reboot that exists at the end off all timelines. but they never said if its a merging of timelines or if all timelines just inevitably turn into Botw.
Also since that blue is the colour of the royal family and link is a champion and Zelda’s royal knight and he was born to a line of royal knights
gonna be honest, I hold onto the past so much with this franchise, so BOTW and TOTK are esaily my least favorite link and zelda designs. when I first saw it and heard the story on how they came to be, it made sense, but it didn't make me like it anymore. I miss his hat, so now I wear the OOT or TP outfit in TOTK all the time 😭
I honestly prefer wearing the regular Hylian tunic and climbing banana than ever wearing the new brand of clothing.
Like, the Hylian tunic died green looks better than any of them anyway. Only reason mine isn't is because I only get one bandana so I rather pull off a "Goron Tunic" look that matches.
I get tired of theese fake fact videos. He had the exact same color in the start of wind waker. And the new games has more clothes to choose from than any other. Including the classic green, with hat.
Tell me something about Link that anyone thats even slightly fond of zelda would know.
Getting rid of the green and cap is like taking off Marios red hat. It’s criminal.
It also is a really nice way to show how there are a lot of outfits to pick from now.
Instead of giving him his usual clothing you can choose from a large variety of clothes.
One could argue that the biggest change is the missing hat.
Well, but you can technically wear the classic green if you want.
dude this isn't the only time link wore blue.. the zora tunic in ocarina of time in in fact blue!
i think it also fits with the themes of loss of identity and melancholy in botw. link was not link anymore. he had to find bits and pieces of himself back in a world that moved on. even in the memory cutscenes, you feel detached from this link because he's so different and i think that's 100% intentional
never take a bit design change just at face value or for the shock of it. maybe sometimes it's for shock but a character's design is the most efficient way to passively convey their story.
I was more upset that starting with Skyward Sword they made Link right-handed. As a left-handed kid growing up, it was so nice (and rare) to have heroic lefty representation. Bring back lefty Link!
Yeah, people don't seem to realize how little (i.e. basically none) heroic and _competent_ lefty representation there was in media and then Aonuma took away the _only_ one we had because of his seething disdain for left-handed people.
Funny enough I think he was technically ambidextrous in skyward sword because he pulled his bow string with his left hand.
@RabblesTheBinx Seething disdain- what??? Look, I understand you're upset and even though I'm righthanded myself I consider lefty Link too iconic not to have back, but you can't seriously think this was done maliciously by the devs, it's just a carryover from motion controls.
If you want to go deeper, aside from Twilight Princess on Wii mirroring the entire game, every righthanded Link was a trained knight who would in all likelihood be trained to fight like he's righthanded
@@shinobirecords2018 I think they were being a bit tongue and cheek - I strongly doubt they’re seriously suggesting that Aonuma has literal “seething disdain for left handed people” 😂
It's cool, but I hope they try to keep green as the main colour because it's by far the most iconic look for him
They made him right handed and shorter than Zelda he has not been (exept for SS but that has motion controls still not shorter)
Unpopular take but i think he looks more badass in the green classic fit than the new one
i miss the green
They liked it better, got it. Talking about extra tunics is unrelated.
My Headcannon is that, savage that he is, BoW link ate his OG clothes.
Am I the only person that thought that Link being dead then revived into his Blue outfit was a direct reference to how beating Wind Waker had you stick to the blue outfit for your NG+. Link's first adventure ended before you play BotW, you take over for part 2. The outfits even look pretty similar (emphasis on similar).
Before anyone says it, yes, I know NG+ WW outfit was canonically not blue, but something the player and most NPCs couldn't see without Magic Armor.
Me who tosses that blue tunic garbage aside as soon as I'm able to get some green clothing.
Doesn’t look cool in the hat? It’s literally his staple
I think they fucked up
wtf? They thought the hat wasn’t cool? Or the green? wtf?
Naw dude. It's actually because Nintendo hates it's fans.
I'm not the only who thinks his hat is cool, right? No, not just in Twilight Princess, but in all the games
I love Links green gnome hat
Bro how the heck he don’t look cool with the hat? Skyward sword link looks awesome with it