How to Make a Custom Patch Panel - No Special Tools Needed
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Many times you have to make custom or homemade rust repair patch panels without the use of special tools. This short video explains how. Tools and materials listed below:
***Tin Snips (Right Cut): www.homedepot....
***Electric Buffer/Grinder: www.harborfrei... buffers/variable-speed-polishers/10-amp-7-in-variable-speed-polishersander-64807.html
***Fiber Resin Disc: benchmarkabras...
***Welder: 110v Miller Millermatic 90. Settings: Heat - 2 , Wire speed - 35 , Wire size: .023"
***5" Sander/Grinder: www.jbtools.co... 20000-rpm/?wi=off&Google&gclid=
You're the man Jerry! Hoping there is a part two of this video - would be great to see it to the end!
Love these simple " no special tools required" videos
Showing good pedagogy and a no-nonsense, practical methodology. You are a reference, Jerry (can I call you Jerry? Enchanté! My name is Rod).
WITH THE USED CAR PRICES RIGHT NOW......these videos are super Useful. Patch up your old ride and keep driving it.
my sheet metal bender, which is very low cost, an old Chevrolet step-side bed cross brace, then a piece of 1" water pipe, use a vise grip on 1 side inside water pipe to end of cross member, then a welding clamp to middle of brace and end of pipe, now you have a workable roller that has proven itself to me thousands of times, not as nice as expensive tools, but very workable.
I dont own a vise, or at least 1 that isnt broken, I overtightened it & broke jaw. lol. it was USA made vintage one too. so showing alternative method pipe clamped to heavy flat metal surface. works.
hope this can help someone that may not own a vice. great work as always
You must be one strong Dude if you can tighten a vice so tight that you break it.
@@tommak6516 not really, but a good small vice. you tighten it, tap handle with hammer next thing you know its broke.
Great job fabbing and fitting that patch, especially the edge. A little welding, a little hammering, a skim of filler and it's like it never happened
I watch often it’s a very good common sense approach to making a patch panel thank for sharing this
Thanks for watching Robert - glad you enjoy the content :)
Nice work as always!
It's nice that you show how to keep costs
Down. Rather than a new door skin.
Or full panels.
Yes - it's really about having fun, saving some cash and driving a car/truck you're proud to own. Also, fellas helping each other out and supporting each other - we have to do that more often as no one else will - except a mom. Mom's always support their sons :)
Great video showing how to get the job done without any specialty tools!
Thanks for you input UPK - I promise I'm taking you to lunch one day when I'm down there :)
@@LakesideAutobody I’m looking forward to it Jerry!
I'm really enjoying your videos! You have a "no bullshit" straight forward approach that I appreciate. 👍
You make it look so easy and you don’t overcomplicate everything. Thank you!
Thanks for the support KK - you're welcome :)
Could not take my eyes off this vidio. Keep them coming, thank you Jerry. Have a good one.
You too Mike - I'll keep them coming. Glad you enjoy them my friend :)
Save those old hoods and doors! They are a good source of sheet metal for patches!! Nice job! Let’s see you weld and finish it too!
Minimal tools and some know-how! I've got some rust repair coming up myself and i've absorbed quite a few body work techniques watching your channel
that I apply to my own projects
That's good to hear - feel free to ask any questions - I get to them once or twice a day :)
well produced video looking forward to seeing the next video on this bodywork repair
Keeping it simple is all that is needed sometimes! Thanks Jerry!
Thanks JRS - have a good weekend my friend :)
Very good instruction , on my rusty van i have used Aluminum siding and rivets . 2 years later its still there
Thanks Rory :)
You make it look so easy thanks for the video
Sir u r awesome period! I can't weld but I can glue and rivoits it may take longer but it will work u still have to grind a weld or rivoits then glass then standard filler then your primer/paint clear this is a really good repair at home in the garage thanks for sharing your knowledge and skill! I have wrote to u B4 about rocker panels on a 01-07 dodge caravan hope u will show how to do that kind of repair thank you sir have a good day!
I appreciate your comment Robert. I will be on the look out for a caravan with rusted rockers that need repair. Thanks for watching and your kind words :)
I had to make my own patches for the lower quarter panels on my 96 Buick Roadmaster sedan. Even if they made patch panels I couldn't afford them. So my Buick now has a little Subaru DNA. I did mine the same way except I put my patch behind the original panel instead of on top
I always wanted a Buick Roadmaster - the ride must be awesome. A little Subaru DNA don't hurt :)
@@LakesideAutobody What about sandwich with patch metal both sides? Maybe pop rivet instead of weld? Maybe (painted) aluminum patch material instead of steel? Put something like roof cement under/between to stop further corrosion? I know this may sound very unusual, but I am serious (not trying to be funny). Need to make some low cost repairs in spring and I only want to do them once.
@@tommak6516 You're ideas are fine. I've glued in a floor (galvanized steel) in a full size van with self tappers and steel/metal roof adhesive. It worked just fine and never even thought about rusting again. If your brain can come up with some out of the box ideas to prevent rust - try it - let me know if it works. Jerry
Good job Jerry. You make it look easy.
Thanks Bluesman - hope your projects are keeping you busy :)
I sure enjoy your video’s! Thanks 👍👍
Glad you like them - have a good weekend :)
A Great Little Video... Thanks for Sharing... Brother
You're welcome my friend :)
You giving me a lot of hope that I got this
You can do it - no problem. Can't hurt if you fail a few times. Keep asking questions :)
@@LakesideAutobody thanks and I appreciate you.
@@cheocoppinger5974 You're welcome - have a good weekend :)
@@LakesideAutobody hey thank you, you have a great weekend as well!
Good method 👏
Great video. I notice you use a lap joint. Seems to make sense so moisture won’t collect in the seam. Just a question though, wouldn’t you want to use weld through primer on the back side?
You could if you want. Welding with a MIG adds metal as opposed to the spots done at the factory so it's not going to be "coating" that metal. Companies like Honda are not using it because it affects the weld pool and has other adverse effects. Here's their take - “Weld-through primer should not be used when doing MAG plug, MAG butt, or MIG Brazing,” Honda wrote in an August 2016 Body Repair News. (Emphasis Honda's.) “Further study has shown that weld-through primers can negatively affect weld or joint quality.” Hope that helps :)
@@LakesideAutobody Do you think it’s okay to use it for spot welding? I’m restoring an old Land Cruiser and those things rust if you look at them hard. Thanks for all the great videos and help to us out here that depend on knowledgeable guys like you.
Hey boss awesome video as always, i was wondering if i might send you some pictures of problem areas on my car amd hopefully get some tips on the patch panels for them as these arw some rather odd shapes and ive got next to no experience or shaping tools, thanks alot man
For sure... schoolvideolibrary@gmail.com - have a good weekend - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody thank you sir for the quick reply, have a great weekend boss man
Jerry, Really appreciate you sharing your wealth of knowledge. Off topic from your video. But when do you apply seam sealer before you paint ? Do you apply to bare steel then prime and then seal and paint ? Or do you apply it to sanded primer then seal and paint Or do you apply it on the sealer then paint. Really appreciate your method on this important part of sealing up a body for paint. or have you covered this in a past video. Thanks 👍👍👍
You can apply seam sealer to primer, paint or bare metal. As long as the seam sealer says paintable, you can prime and paint it afterwards if you prefer. Most automotive grade seam sealers are paintable - the ones that I've used are anyway. Like this: ACDelco GM Original Equipment 10-2013 Body Joint and Seam Filler Compound - 11 oz I like this kind - dries fast, stays flexible, paintable :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thank you Sir for your insight and recommendation. I appreciate it !👍
@@ronsre-creations5289 You're welcome - any time :)
That's the same spot my 2000 r150 I'm gonna start with
Good stuff Bud!!☻
Can you show us how do you use that one vise-grip that has the weird shaped Jaws? Awesome job by the way thank you
Sure Sparta - I'll mention that next time I use it. Thanks for the support Sparta and you're welcome :)
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👍(202)Thanks for this.. Have a great weekend!
You too my friend :)
That’s getting it done! Good info.👍
Thanks CSG - have a good weekend :)
Is that the front edge of a pickup bed? Looks like there's a huge gap between the 2 panels, since you can get your fingers in there.
Yes. Front of a 2003 Ford F150 pickup bed.
nice job...!
Hey Jerry whats up :) great video. Seen the one jerk comment. Had a great laugh at that one. I wonder if he uses peanut butter to do his body work ;)
Not to much GM, just watching my sports bets go down the drain. Thanks for the support and always good to hear from you my friend - have a good week :)
Very nice repair! What gauge metal is commonly used for body patch jobs?
20 or 22 will work fine. 20 is around .035" and 22 is about .030" both hold up well (thick enough) yet not to hard to work with.
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks for the reply. I have rust on the rockers (small square area right before the rear tire) on my otherwise pristine 2002 Lincoln Continental. I might just give this a go and see how it comes out. Maybe have a pro paint it after I weld and fill.
@@Fireship1 Give it a try. You can break what's already broke :)
Can the patch and glue method also be used at the bottom of a van in between the the front and rear wheels. the rust is at the bottom right in front of the back wheel. Its is not exactly a small hole.
Here's a video on that Julie - ua-cam.com/video/W9czvb2rFqY/v-deo.html Have a good weekend and feel free too ask ?s any time :)
what thickness metal are you using ? Thanks, enjoying ur videos, Norm 11/7/23
.035" - 20 gauge. You can also use .030" - 22 gauge. Thanks for watching Norm - glad you enjoy the vids :)
I do not have welder, can I use pop rivets? Can I use painted aluminum patch metal insead od steel?
Absolutely - check this video out - ua-cam.com/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/v-deo.html
Good job, thanks for the video 👏👍✔
You're welcome :)
Great video as always. I've got a question for you, on my Dakota the front cab mounts are pretty rusted. I'm talking about the cab side of the bushing, frame side is still very solid. Do you think I could manage to fix that as a beginner with a flux core welder and thick sheet metal? I've already fixed the front wheel arches thanks to your methods but haven't done much else in the body department. The rockers have seen better days but there is still some good metal there so I believe the cab would be worth fixing.
You can absolutely fix it with the flux core welder. Let me know how it goes for you and if you have any more ?s on it :)
Flux core is what I’m using on all of my sheet metal work right now. It’s all solidly attached so far!!!
Just make sure to get rid of all the flux and practice first on metal of same thickness. You can get good quality slip on rocker panels for that truck too. I had 2 of them, very good trucks
is that you playing guitar on the intros?
Yes - trying :)
Ive heard from you jerry hope all well down there
It is going well but cold and windy lately :)
@@LakesideAutobody lot of ice up here
Nice, that area has been mopped once before, maybe the previous repair was not that good.
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A lot of experience with the way you handled those cutters.
Dull ones are a bummer - they're much more fun to use when sharp :)
Show us the rest Jerry! I beg of you
Next Friday my friend. Good hearing from you as always Jonathan - have a good week :)
What a mess
0.15 says no new sheet metal to be used, 1.02 brand new sheet metal appears from nowhere
You dont overlap panels on that part of a flat panel
The bending was atrocious, hitting the metal with the pliers/clamps - really..?
Was there any gas with that welder, some of those welds more porous than a tea bag,
arcing up the welder on the back of the piece you are actually using is pure laziness/sloppy, use some side cutters or arc up on a piece of scrap,
Oh and no special tools, hands up how many have all those mole grips in your possession?
If anything else wrong happened after this - forgive me as I packed up watching...
Thanks for the comment - subscribers will get a kick out of it :) There's no fabrication tools in body shops and this is how most shops in the metro Detroit area repair rust. Here's the result of similar repairs after 3 years driving in salty Michigan - ua-cam.com/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/v-deo.html See this also for more info on butt vs lap - ua-cam.com/video/JIIonJOVro4/v-deo.html
I've got a drawer full of vice grips of all different types, another drawer full of a variety of c-clamps... Not really specialty tools.
I fabricate aircraft parts for part of my job. I've got access to quality shears, a brake, a few slip rollers, cnc equipment etc. Here I am watching this fella work even though I really don't need to, I did my time as an apprentice body man when I was young and have done enough body work at home so I really don't have too much to learn at this point... my truck needs new rear wheel arches/bed sides, I won't be using any of that fancy stuff at work to fabricate it, just some wood forms and a hammer.
And his work comes out flawless after all your moaning and complaining. You can overlap anywhere you want bud. Better than butt welding any day
It is down low on the car, not a real noticable place.