@@user-pw7wl3nu1l Fiberglass causes no damage to your lungs, has no carcinogenic effects, and has no permanent lasting effects on you unless severe amounts of it are inhaled regularly. Or you know,... it's burning. Short term, it can cause mild skin, eye, nose, and throat irritation. So obviously wear a mask, but if you don't you're not going to become the next Deadpool.
Looks good however, over time you will see a perfect line of where the patch outline is due to expansion and contraction. The panel bond and glue expand and contract at different rates. There is a time and place for panel bonding but but hints are not the place.
I’m doing a 50” long lower half quarter panel replacement on a Chevy Cavalier using panel bond and a contoured backer strip cut out of a junk yard piece. I’ll glue the backer strip in first like you did, but use Pre-drilled holes and wood screws to clamp it, instead of clamps. Then remove the screws and dab the holes from behind to make a waterproof bond. This method causes zero distortion and no pinholes like welding does. Great to see someone else use this method. I know skeptics will say that you can’t help but get ghost outlines and color bleeding from any type of bonding glue. What does the patch look like over a year later?
HaHa, yeah i thought the same thing. Not only do they look stupid, they are held on with some type of glue or tape, and yes step in out of the rain and push down on those and your shoe will probably slide right off.
You can get a cheap flux-core welder at Harbor Freight for around $150, yes you’ll need other stuff like a welding helmet and some gloves but get a welder and learn how to stick metal together, it’s a capability you’ll find very valuable. 😎
@@mrbriggs68 Not really…. welders are incredibly siqmple machines now, you don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars on a welder anymore to get one that can lay down a decent weld. At Harbor Freight the old black AC welder that goes for around $150 (depending on what coupon you dig up) still kinda sucks. But, they sell a better one, it’s neon green color and goes for around $20 (again, depending on wat coupon you can find. *All of Harbor Freight’s prices have increased in the last few months, thanks to our current administration… 🙄
@@mrbriggs68 they are great welders for the price. I replaced the rockers 'floor pans 'cab mounts and door pillars on both sides on my 1975 Ford f250 4x4. Gotta love the rust belt.
Always thought someone would manufacture some truck cab corners and rocker panel covers that could be painted with a spray can and then glued on. It would cover the ugly rust and holes, wouldn’t fit flush but would look good enough for a daily driver truck, and not break the bank!
The 'backing brackets' made from the scrap panel will do the trick, but in my experience.. Using a flange-tool works perfectly. I've probably done a few hundred repairs that way.
I hear you - especially when he makes his voice gruff - Kevin has always been great but that is a terrible mismatch - shorts and a dress shirt doing body work - fire the marketing person for these episodes
I don't get why for what seemed like 3 minutes of audio was cut from this. I get it. The music likely claimed by some label no one has ever heard of. But geez.....
Does this work on top of paint? There's a 5" round hole on the floor of my van I'm trying to figure out how to fix it because the floor is corrugated. :( This hole was cut out of sheer laziness by a shop person installing a diesel heater in my van. It's going to be hard to go to bare metal because of the corrugation. I was just thinking of using panel adhesive for a piece on top of the hole, since it's hidden so it doesn't have to look perfect.
Ok, This was filmed back in 2006 . You can tell by how young Kevin looks. Dont think you could get a decent welding back then for 150 bucks. Also structural body panel adhesives have come a long ways in 18 years for everyone knocking it.
I wouldn't do this with anything that would be structural. But for patch panels like this, seems like the way to go if you don't have a welder, or the skills necessary to weld.
there is always going to be snobs who get mad when people don't weld in panels. It is like they get disgusted when they see people doing any other type of repair that does not involve welding. Not every fucking car rust/panel repair needs to be welded in. After you do all the needed prep work, rust removal, glue a panel on, and fiberglass, bondo, and paint over it, it aint coming off, its not going to just fall off after driving down the road lol, I dont know where people get that Idea from. If you let it get that rusted out again to the point where it needs to be repaired again, then that is on you, NOT THE REPAIR!
So u see the pros does this so don't 🤔 think body shop not doing this it's not wrong it's made for this try I'll got my own body shop I do the same process
Why is the big boi yelling like a fool? Calm down dude and just talk normal. Will make it hard to watch anything more because i geel like im being screamed at and it grates on me
Let me start off by telling you I hate both of you! I was really looking forward to seeing how you were going to match the bottom to the top paint color. Then you go ahead and change the color completely. That's cheating. -) Of course I'm kidding about hating you. I followed your career as it started. You made it fun to get up on Sunday mornings. I do like how you cut out that patch and then transferred it over to the new panel. Even though I have all three forms of welding equipment. I've been thinking of trying the epoxy approach. I have heard a lot of good things about that. I heard once the glue sets up the only way you were separating those panels is by ripping it apart then of course you could not use it again. I was really hoping for a mild winter. Since I'm running out of time. I really want to start restoring my 1990 F-150 4 x 4 with the 5.0 engine before I go. There's nothing special that I have ever done to it. Before I had the park in the driveway everywhere I went people would always come up and ask me if my truck was for sale. Even though most of my friends have brand new trucks when they need something big and bulky to pick it up they would always ask me to use my truck. I had a good old-fashioned 8-ft bed. I want to thank you for still teaching people things. I remember when this episode aired on network television. It was good to come watch it again.
I've been putting patch panels inside Chevy S10, for the last 25 years. Don't do any thing they said here. In fact, this is probably the worst demonstration of using patch panels I've ever seen. I can't believe they actually published this. These guys should just stick to changing parts.
That dude should rip his shirt off and flex, then say 'oooooooooh yaaaaaaaaa' . So instead of all that, just get spray expand foam, let it just go everywhere and harden, cut and bondo, paint, done. Like 1 hour tops.
Stacy David lost all his hair and talks like he is constipated , Someone should start a go-fund-me for this guy , I wonder if he will buy back Copperhead or Sargent Rock first ?
Wait a tick! Buying a welder is not in the budget, you can fix it in your driveway, then they put the truck on a lift, yes when we buy or rent our homes a lift in the driveway is always part of the budget, right!? I would wager that there's a lot more folk's like myself with one or more welding solutions and no lift.
That is some Mickey Mouse repair, the foam will cause more rust to form on the back side. Panel adhesive and this technique is not bad for a DIY method.
@@davidparker9676 I fashioned some steel plates, placed them inside hole with very strong resin, then used steel filler and built up the profile. I cleared the inside sill of rust remnants and applied a couple of coats of rust treatment. After setting and then flattening it is solid and looks like new! Then I noticed the other sill needs doing!
@@MrNaKillshots When I was a kid, I bought a rust bucket and wire wheeled all of the rust I could see, treated it with rust treatment and filled everything with "kitty-hair" fiberglass filler. You know what? It lasted a pretty long time before the rust bubbles came back. I had a guy cut all the rust out and weld in new steel, the rust came back after only a couple years. Proper rust repairs involve getting all of the rust removed or treated and sealed with epoxy primer and cavity waxed from the inside. Rust is like roaches, you see one, there's 1000X more you cant see.
I think you forgot boys Peel back the interior panel and expose the inside of that repair Spray a little bit of rubberized undercoating on it Cause it’s not it can rust from the inside out
It's like WWE and This Old House had a baby that decided to be a mechanic.
Ha!!!!!
I got the WWE part good one 😂😂😂
WHAT!!!?!!!?!! WHAT!!!😊
Yup, just found the video - the bald guy needs to dial it down several notches.
yea the bald headed dude does remind me of perry saturn, voice almost as annoying.. the little skinny guy needs to be the only one talking.
Jesse “The Autobody” Ventura! 💪🏼
I like the method used to repair the rust without welding. Very, very nice work.
5:07. 😂😂😂 The contrast. "...PLENTY OF TIME TO SET YOUR PATCH." [passes the gun] "thank you."
I like the way he puts the truck on a hoist and works comfortable.
Sure... If you have access to one. But most people don't have one.
6:02 😂😂 "cool! we can take a break!"
"YEAH!! AND THEN WERE GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO FIX THOSE PATCHES!!"
Had to laugh at the Vice Grips😂Think you could fit in another pair?
Wasn't real that was a picture welded on.
I was wondering what that many would do to the budget. you can never have too many clamps.
I don't know why they needed so many with a 1 minute set time!
Magnets, sanding blocks, glue, cure lamp, air compressor, cut off wheel, clamps, sandpaper, sanding disc, etc.. going to cost as much as welder. LOL
You still need most of that for any paint job.
Plus panel bond is non corrosive and very strong. Lasts forever
@@Chopski64Most people will just rattle can the spot until they have money in the budget for a real paint job.
Pretty Slick! I've learned ALLOT over the years from watching Kevin. Here's one more.
hey mr clean you dont have to yell
I forgot how bad he was
Lol
Volume button, use it!
@@kennethbrown8723 so he'll stop yelling if i use the volume button?
I'm trying to figure out which one of these guys is Stacy David 🤔
I gears I'll never know !
It's funny how this guy using the mask while putting the filler, not when send in the fiberglass, good job 👏
It's the chemicals that are harmful, not the fiberglass. He also masked up when sanding the primer.
@@TheGamersRace Yeah fiberglass totally fine for your lungs 🫁 🤣👍
@@user-pw7wl3nu1l Fiberglass causes no damage to your lungs, has no carcinogenic effects, and has no permanent lasting effects on you unless severe amounts of it are inhaled regularly. Or you know,... it's burning.
Short term, it can cause mild skin, eye, nose, and throat irritation. So obviously wear a mask, but if you don't you're not going to become the next Deadpool.
Looks good however, over time you will see a perfect line of where the patch outline is due to expansion and contraction. The panel bond and glue expand and contract at different rates. There is a time and place for panel bonding but but hints are not the place.
I. would have used almost the entire panel replacing it at the natural body line that way if it does start to show it would be far less obvious.
It's like a drywall patch with metal. Excellent 👍
those cool billet peddle covers look slippery as fuck
That $30 panel bond is now $153 cdn now!
Good old trudeau and crew
Hey, if they can smuggle drugs in, I am sure you can score some on the streets for a little cheaper......
Damn, I was hoping something was going to go wrong so that guy would pick that truck up and throw it through a wall
underrated comment
😂
Everyone is talking about Stone Lukewarm Steve El Paso, but I'm just learning that comically sized arrows aren't just from cartoons. 5:59
Awesome 👍 job guys I appreciate all your Tips and Tricks Videos keep up with all your Build's/Works 😎🥃👌🤙
These guys make it look easy, the 1 guy seems like his soft and passive, the other guy seems like his loud and aggressive. Hahaha
GENIUSES AT WORK WOW LOVE THE PAINT JOB AND THE METHODICAL WAY YOU GUYS WORK ABSOLUTE GENIUS ,BLESS YOU GUYS .
Thanks for the video guys, it really helped.
I’m doing a 50” long lower half quarter panel replacement on a Chevy Cavalier using panel bond and a contoured backer strip cut out of a junk yard piece. I’ll glue the backer strip in first like you did, but use Pre-drilled holes and wood screws to clamp it, instead of clamps. Then remove the screws and dab the holes from behind to make a waterproof bond. This method causes zero distortion and no pinholes like welding does. Great to see someone else use this method. I know skeptics will say that you can’t help but get ghost outlines and color bleeding from any type of bonding glue. What does the patch look like over a year later?
How about links to the products in the description? 🤷
This was neat to see how to repair the rust section without a welder
metal pedal covers? that ought to be fun when wet.
Yea, pedal covers look cheap
HaHa, yeah i thought the same thing. Not only do they look stupid, they are held on with some type of glue or tape, and yes step in out of the rain and push down on those and your shoe will probably slide right off.
How about the chrome dash blinding you when the sun hits it! 🤣
You can get a cheap flux-core welder at Harbor Freight for around $150, yes you’ll need other stuff like a welding helmet and some gloves but get a welder and learn how to stick metal together, it’s a capability you’ll find very valuable. 😎
Key word you said cheap meaning junk
@@mrbriggs68 Not really…. welders are incredibly siqmple machines now, you don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars on a welder anymore to get one that can lay down a decent weld. At Harbor Freight the old black AC welder that goes for around $150 (depending on what coupon you dig up) still kinda sucks. But, they sell a better one, it’s neon green color and goes for around $20 (again, depending on wat coupon you can
find.
*All of Harbor Freight’s prices have increased in the last few months, thanks to our current administration… 🙄
@@mrbriggs68 They are not junk
@@mrbriggs68 they are great welders for the price. I replaced the rockers 'floor pans 'cab mounts and door pillars on both sides on my 1975 Ford f250 4x4. Gotta love the rust belt.
@@mrbriggs68 no they are good welders
I use Panel Bond to do these types of repair. It can be sanded to shape too.
"This has been a Vince McMahon production"
you know your good when you don't even get dirty.
*You’re
@@jumpinjojo tnk yo 4 th spel cek
Carbody glue works find. ,don't forget to protect the innside.
Yeah... All that bare metal ready to find some moisture 🤣
Cool to see Macho Man's son doing car restoration!
😅
Always thought someone would manufacture some truck cab corners and rocker panel covers that could be painted with a spray can and then glued on. It would cover the ugly rust and holes, wouldn’t fit flush but would look good enough for a daily driver truck, and not break the bank!
They do
They do.
4-6mm thick primer with 3 to 4 coats? 4-6 mils per coat maybe.
The 'backing brackets' made from the scrap panel will do the trick, but in my experience..
Using a flange-tool works perfectly. I've probably done a few hundred repairs that way.
Can someone tell me what the brand and model of that full face mask supplied air respirator is?
"A good welder starts at about $800":
Me with my Harbor Freight welder: 😭😭😅
This show is probably 15 years old - long before harbor freight
excellent video guys!!!
Um, subscribed, obviously.
Who directed this? Fantastic!
Former tv show
Will you guys please post up the second chance silverado videos?
Not sure what they were thinking when they hired Paul for this show
they were thinking HELL YEAH BORTHER hes a dollar general version of stone cold
@@icejawa1829 Borther?
@@jonathanyates5198 Borther is the Dollar General version of Brother~
I hear you - especially when he makes his voice gruff - Kevin has always been great but that is a terrible mismatch - shorts and a dress shirt doing body work - fire the marketing person for these episodes
@@icejawa1829Good one! I usually say the "great value" version....
I don't get why for what seemed like 3 minutes of audio was cut from this. I get it. The music likely claimed by some label no one has ever heard of. But geez.....
Thanks
I wonder what ever happened to that truck? This was filmed a while back
Professional work guys... Praise YHWH 🙏✌️👍🙌👑❤️
Why does this guy remind me of a cross between Goldberg and Steve Austin? Lol.
Does this work on top of paint? There's a 5" round hole on the floor of my van I'm trying to figure out how to fix it because the floor is corrugated. :( This hole was cut out of sheer laziness by a shop person installing a diesel heater in my van.
It's going to be hard to go to bare metal because of the corrugation. I was just thinking of using panel adhesive for a piece on top of the hole, since it's hidden so it doesn't have to look perfect.
And there will still be gaps under the piece :(
I'm so mad they did this.
windshields are glued in over paint and the urethane glue does fine for years.
Try cutting out a patch panel from the junkyard.
When upper management hires the voice of the Kool-Aid man. Annoying
wow bill Goldberg, love to see next show, when Goldberg tells us WHO'S NEXT!!
Now I know the face behind Kermit the Frog's voice. Over the Top bud.
I prefer the welding method but very interesting
How long would a repair like this last ? Six months, a year, ten years
If you remove the rust and garage park. Decades.
you could test it and find out maybe. idk maybe some day ill have a chance to try it out.
If done properly, years.
Hell, for $10,000 you Could have Fixed Up a Junk-Yard LS and had Money Left to Turbo that Thing! HAHAHA!
Might as well showed us spray on bondo too. Lolz
Paul looks and sounds like Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Wow guys tremendous job that truck looks awesome
ME: Mom! I want some Stone Cold!
Mom: We have Stone Cold at home.
This: Stone Cold at home.
Makes no sense
😅
When did the pro wrestler get hired?
20ish years ago.....1 season wonder
GWWAAAAA!
$300 worth of vise grips...
I saw your comment before I saw the moment. I was so confused…but when I saw it, I cackled. I had to rewatch. Iconic freeze frame.
Ok, This was filmed back in 2006 . You can tell by how young Kevin looks. Dont think you could get a decent welding back then for 150 bucks. Also structural body panel adhesives have come a long ways in 18 years for everyone knocking it.
4-6mm thick after several coats??? Seem mighty thick.
What did those body parts from LMC cost?
That cab corner job looked easy and high-quality. It actually looked better than welding. Is there any reason not to do this?
I wouldn't do this with anything that would be structural. But for patch panels like this, seems like the way to go if you don't have a welder, or the skills necessary to weld.
Rust
You will see a ghost line where the patch is after it ages
@@johnnyshd8250 That's why you only do it on a vehicle you are putting on facebook marketplace....
Super😊
yeah but now the inside that cab corner has some bare metal tho.. it will rust out faster than i did in the first place
there is always going to be snobs who get mad when people don't weld in panels. It is like they get disgusted when they see people doing any other type of repair that does not involve welding. Not every fucking car rust/panel repair needs to be welded in. After you do all the needed prep work, rust removal, glue a panel on, and fiberglass, bondo, and paint over it, it aint coming off, its not going to just fall off after driving down the road lol, I dont know where people get that Idea from. If you let it get that rusted out again to the point where it needs to be repaired again, then that is on you, NOT THE REPAIR!
Ohh Yeah Brother 🤘
Way better if the pinstripe is under the clear.
Did he say primer ends up 4-6mm thick after 3 coats? : / That sounds incorrect.......
What I want to know is will it crack over time?
So u see the pros does this so don't 🤔 think body shop not doing this it's not wrong it's made for this try I'll got my own body shop I do the same process
@@fabiancook1498 nah, I’d prefer for my body work to last.
😂 lol well pay top dollar for the weild job no complaining when they say$150 hr it's gonna take 6hr to complete 💯 that the way that works
@@fabiancook1498 I'd pay only 20 bucks for a weld job, like that.
@@chevylandt.v an u must do it ur self from harbor freight
I feel jipped we didn't see him do a cycle of roids and workout
I saw the shot of the 672 clamps and said NOPE. I'd rather go buy a HBF welder and take my chances haha.
Yes you can fix whole in body without welded it's called bonddoe 😀 I Just wouldn't do it. Cheap O
I've seen rust holes stuffed with socks
I got dizzy and lost hope at 5:40
You should have went all the way down to the pinch WELD. With the patch.
Clearly this guy eats Glass with his Cheereos every morning..............
Why is the big boi yelling like a fool? Calm down dude and just talk normal. Will make it hard to watch anything more because i geel like im being screamed at and it grates on me
Why would anybody paint that rusty thing before they got it?
Let me start off by telling you I hate both of you! I was really looking forward to seeing how you were going to match the bottom to the top paint color. Then you go ahead and change the color completely. That's cheating. -)
Of course I'm kidding about hating you. I followed your career as it started. You made it fun to get up on Sunday mornings. I do like how you cut out that patch and then transferred it over to the new panel. Even though I have all three forms of welding equipment. I've been thinking of trying the epoxy approach. I have heard a lot of good things about that. I heard once the glue sets up the only way you were separating those panels is by ripping it apart then of course you could not use it again.
I was really hoping for a mild winter. Since I'm running out of time. I really want to start restoring my 1990 F-150 4 x 4 with the 5.0 engine before I go. There's nothing special that I have ever done to it. Before I had the park in the driveway everywhere I went people would always come up and ask me if my truck was for sale. Even though most of my friends have brand new trucks when they need something big and bulky to pick it up they would always ask me to use my truck. I had a good old-fashioned 8-ft bed.
I want to thank you for still teaching people things. I remember when this episode aired on network television. It was good to come watch it again.
I've been putting patch panels inside Chevy S10, for the last 25 years. Don't do any thing they said here.
In fact, this is probably the worst demonstration of using patch panels I've ever seen.
I can't believe they actually published this.
These guys should just stick to changing parts.
Well... What's the "right" way then???
1st for a change, good job fellas :)
so is Mr. clean a pitcher or a catcher???
Just get your mig out and do it right, different materials contract and expand over time and you'll see it.
That dude should rip his shirt off and flex, then say 'oooooooooh yaaaaaaaaa' . So instead of all that, just get spray expand foam, let it just go everywhere and harden, cut and bondo, paint, done. Like 1 hour tops.
With a body on frame car, I see no objections using this fix. Even on airplanes and Lexus they use glue!
Can he not talk only shout WTF?
Stacy David lost all his hair and talks like he is constipated ,
Someone should start a go-fund-me
for this guy ,
I wonder if he will buy back Copperhead or Sargent Rock first ?
6:06 😂😂😂😂😂
He sounds like a wrestler
Wait a tick! Buying a welder is not in the budget, you can fix it in your driveway, then they put the truck on a lift, yes when we buy or rent our homes a lift in the driveway is always part of the budget, right!? I would wager that there's a lot more folk's like myself with one or more welding solutions and no lift.
I live in an Apartment structure. Whats a garage? Im familiar with the forbidden extension cord to run some FluXCore with my 110v mig🤣😅
Was Paul in the WWE
What size adhesive gun do you need to apply epoxy?
Omg don’t tell people they can do this.. now Im finding trucks with bondo rockers that are a foot thick. Wtf
filler is only bad when its used improperly. it just so happens that most people use it improperly. at least it wasnt spray foam
Or put filler foam in, and then flatten/reinforce with fibreglass resin and filler.
That is some Mickey Mouse repair, the foam will cause more rust to form on the back side. Panel adhesive and this technique is not bad for a DIY method.
@@davidparker9676 I fashioned some steel plates, placed them inside hole with very strong resin, then used steel filler and built up the profile. I cleared the inside sill of rust remnants and applied a couple of coats of rust treatment. After setting and then flattening it is solid and looks like new!
Then I noticed the other sill needs doing!
@@MrNaKillshots When I was a kid, I bought a rust bucket and wire wheeled all of the rust I could see, treated it with rust treatment and filled everything with "kitty-hair" fiberglass filler. You know what? It lasted a pretty long time before the rust bubbles came back. I had a guy cut all the rust out and weld in new steel, the rust came back after only a couple years.
Proper rust repairs involve getting all of the rust removed or treated and sealed with epoxy primer and cavity waxed from the inside.
Rust is like roaches, you see one, there's 1000X more you cant see.
@@davidparker9676 still, it's what we do. We love a challenge. My wife would've just bought a new car in a nicer colour.
I think you forgot boys
Peel back the interior panel and expose the inside of that repair
Spray a little bit of rubberized undercoating on it
Cause it’s not it can rust from the inside out
Man, Wannabe Stone Cold Bill Goldsteiner is about as annoying as a hangover!
i wasn't going to to put quite that way but yeah his voice is over the top for sure
Blocking down that fiber glass filler with no mask?!!!!!! Brave man.
Just find someone to weld it. 🤪
4 to 6mm thick ?????!!!!!! Bull! You would think the producers of these how to’s would check that the information given is correct.