We All Need A Boost! [Dept 10, Zio, Heavy Water, Z-Tone, & Cornish]
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Ever considered a boost instead of an overdrive? Here’s why you might want to…
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Welcome to the show! In this episode Dan and I are playing through a handful of new(ish) boost pedals while discussing how you might want to use a boost in your rig. Whether it’s a simple make-louder device or, more likely, you want to push something else into overdrive, the choices are many and varied.
What can we learn from this selection to help us all understand The Ways Of The Boost a little better? Let’s get into it…
Yes, we know there are many other boosts available, and leaving any of them out seems like some kind of unforgivable crime against humanity. But hey, we have what we have today, and these are they.
Q: But but but but… I just want to get louder, not to go into heavy overdrive?!
A: Any of these apart from the Cornish will enable you to do that - you just need an amp with plenty of headroom so the amp itself doesn’t overdrive. It’s all about headroom.
Q: What are the mic preamps Mick adjusts?
A: Glad you asked. We recently started using the Meris 440 Mic Preamps on our main guitar cab mics. They're a 500 Series all-analogue design that means we do less post-EQ tweaks (not that we ever did much to be fair). They seem to catch the dynamics and transients of the cabs / cab mics (Austrian Audio OC18) in a lovely way. Still getting used to them, but I'm a BIG fan. Mick here. We started using them at the end of 2021/beginning of 2022 I think. They go in to Universal Audio Apollo 8p interfaces.
www.meris.us/product/440-mic-...
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Pedals used in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• Sonic Research ST-300 Turbo Tuner
Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
• Pete Cornish TB-83 Extra
www.petecornish.co.uk/vintage....
• Blackstar Dept. 10 Boost
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3LibKdf
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3srX9mD
• Source Audio Zio
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3sA2Or8
Australia: bit.ly/3HI5WqY
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3oBzuiE
• IK Multimedia Z-Tone
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3LoXDTt
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/LPBnBY
• Thorpy Heavy Water
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zXIi6N
Australia: bit.ly/3qq9h7W
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3u68BGF
• Wampler Paisley Drive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3JflSBp
Australia: bit.ly/3oAefgY
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/34mEiBH
• Source Audio Collider Delay & Reverb
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2HwaALt
Australia: bit.ly/323SzgS
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3p914n0Are
• TheGigRig G3
www.thegigrig.com/g3
Interesting bits and go-to sections…
0:00 Intro playing
3:22 Why do we use boosts?
5:10 Dan’s new toy!
5:56 Treble booster background
7:00 Treble booster sounds
11:57 Blackstar Dept.10 boost background
12:49 Blackstar Dept.10 sounds
20:42 Source Audio Zio background
21:51 Source Audio Zio sounds
24:70 Zio and a delay
31:55 IK Multimedia Z-Tone background
35:39 IK Multimedia Z-Tone sounds
40:57 Thorpy FX Heavy Water background
41:35 Thorpy FX Heavy Water sounds
48:35 Closing boost thoughts
50:29 Boost before or after overdrive?
Guitars in this episode:
• Supro Jamesport - no video
• Gibson Custom True Historic 1957 Les Paul Goldtop Murphy Aged - no video
• 1965 Fender Telecaster - no video
• Fender Custom Shop ’62 Relic Stratocaster - Mick’s video here: • Mick’s New Strat - Fir...
Amps in this episode:
• Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb reissue with standard speaker
USA Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/a1rnaQ
• Marshall 1987x with Custom Zilla 212 / Celestion Alnico Ruby speakers
USA That Pedal Shop: bit.ly/3v3Xazc
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I've realized lately that one-knob boost pedals tend to be the longest demos I make-- so many possibilities! Love the roundup fellas :)
FWIW, your recent demo of the new Source Audio ZIO was all it took for me to get one. Been running it front-in-line for the past few weeks and am loving it!
@@billbfoot Thanks Bill, glad you’re enjoying it!
+1 on that. You really showed how powerful and versatile it can be.
The Futurama meme with Fry holding a wad of bills comes to mind... 😅
Speaking of one knob boosts, any experience with the fulltone 2b?
It's funny. This whole thing is about BOOST. Yet most of these pedals are more than just a boost. Including mine, a Wampler dB-1. It's got a switchable buffer on the side. Its sort of a 1knob pedal. I actually don't use the buffer. And barely use the boost. Got 3 drives that can "boost" each other. Keep each gain turned down unless any song calls for it. Gain is noise and trying to keep that to the minimum.
Dan & Mick, you guys rule! Thanks for including the ZIO. Glad you dig it.
How about a double ZIO with a loop so they can go pre AND post gain? That would be KILLER. Or I could just buy another one... 🤷🏻♂😆
I have seen every episode since the beginning of TPS and I've only just realised you don't have tons of adverts if any on your videos. Bravo. Another reason for me to return to the merch shop
Dan’s reaction when using the Heavy Water reflected my own the first time I plugged it in, and every time since to be honest.
I absolutely *love* that pedal. Add a little camouflange to make the top-end glisten and sparkle, maybe some univibe for movement, and I’m gone for days.
I think Thorpy should be considered for knighthood for services rendered to the human ear.
Wonderful show as always, killer playing throughout! Can’t wait for the treble booster show now, that’s probably the next frontier for me.
The Dept 10 boost is a thing of beauty. I’d love to hear it through a super reverb.
This is where TPS has its value the wealth of knowledge….and it’s explained in terms mere mortals can understand.
That Supro sounded great in the intro!
There’s so much joy watching Dan when he really connects with a pedal / a tone
Just epic!
I love how giddy Dan gets at some of this stuff. You guys are the best.
Great show! You all are magnificent and so genuine. I can’t tell you how fortunate I am to watch your show. Always a pleasure, and I am excited to see the next one. Loved the show gentlemen have a safe a beautiful weekend.
Top drawer episode again guys, thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏. Really enjoying your virtual company.
A fun thing about the Paisley and other TS-derived soft clippers: due to the inherent clean blend, a clean boost into them not only saturates the driving portion further, but also punches through with a louder clean. You can hear it here, where there’s sort of a separation between loud attack and later heavy saturation. It’s sort of strange to my ear but great at the same time. I love taking a dirtier boost (like another overdrive/preampesque pedal) and cranking it through a Paisley for a complex and articulate yet simultaneously crumbling drive.
So that explains the, to my ears, unpleasant sound of the Blackstar into the Paisley. Thanks 👍
And that was the only unpleasant thing in this episode. Thanks guys yet again.
Majestic. Nothing short of majestic. Thanks team - top notch as ever.
I can easy spend days experimenting with the topic of boosts.
Mick, Dan thank you for a good show.
Best regards from Denmark
Greatest Les Paul tones I’ve ever heard come from this show, and perhaps this episode. Makes me want an R7 and a plexi. Bravo 👏🏼.
The day has finally come!!! I've waited weeks to hear Dan's beautiful new Cornish Treble Booster! One of my biggest gear regrets is trading off my Keeley Java Boost Treble Boost. Hoping for more episodes in the future that incorporate the Cornish Treble Boost! Thanks Gents
Man, double siding the heavy water before & after the paisley was 🔥. Great show per usual, sending all my love!!!
Best intro and I couldn’t agree more, Dan you’re doing wonderful!
I have tried a ton of different boosts but I always end up going back to my old MXR Micro Amp. Another great episode. Cheers
Fantastic episode as always Fellas. Thank you for the friday morning jams!
Tom Bukovac thaught me to use an equalizer as a boost pedal. Really works great! ;)
Love my ZIO pedal, definitely always on! Great roundup and selection of pedals 👍
The very first tone in the intro was superb!
the ZIO completed my board... that pedal is fire!!
That intro was like gravy and Mick just sopped it all up with a biscuit!
* in Southern Arkansas, biscuits and gravy are something completely more delicious that most Brits can imagine and completely different things than English biscuits and gravy. Try it when you are in Nashville, it will change your entire view on life, the universe and everything.
Thanks for an hour show.
You cleared up a lot of misconceptions I had about boosts. I'll be poorer before the sun sets because you air these on payday.
One quick question, why don't you use your Fryette power station instead of the Palmer?
Hey Brian. Too much hassle. I should use the Tone King really. That's my fave one. Mick here. But again, hassle - the Palmer is purely passive so requires no power. Cheers!
You would never have an English biscuit with gravy- tea on the other hand.....
Like I said. Different things
11:35 , Mick uses the force to lower his glasses like an absolute badass
What a glorious noise. I love feedback.
I love my Blackstar Dept 10 boost.
Even on crystal clean tones it adds some kind of witchcraft that brings things alive. ❤️ 💁🏼♀️
I just ordered my Blackstar Dept. 10 Boost.
Do you stack it with overdrive pedals?
If so, do you put it be before or after them?
@@johncrush4362 Congratulations 🎊🎈 👍🏻
I often put it before some overdrives and after others. It depends on if you want a volume boost or a gain boost.
This video was just the boost I needed for the weekend!
I just ordered my EP Boost this morning, and then this video pops up. Best show on YT!!!
I love mine!
Be sure to experiment with the internal dip switches. I set mine to low cut. 🎸
I really like that booster, and yes try and experiments with the internal dip switches mate.
I am surprised this is the first time a Pete Cornish pedal has been featured on the show! More please!! I have several of his pedals (started picking them up 14 years ago) and they are all tone quest enders! I don't have the TB, now I want it!! Great work as usual guys. :)
Man i havent watched the show in a while but hearing your guys voices is a bit like meeting an old friend again
Oh that was some lovely neck bendy goodness with the Surpro Mick! All about boosts, all about this show. Thanks gents.
Classic TPS, my favourite kind of episode!
Thanks for everything! Your Marshall sounds amazing 💕
Strongly recommend the Benson Germanium boost because if your fuzz has two germanium transistors it will become a tone bender. Lots of engineering in to that one knob pedal
Yeah, and this one has two germanium transistors.
The zvex SHO was the third pedal I ever bought - nearly 20 years ago. It is still an essential go-to pedal on my board. It can boost the amp into overdrive or make a quiet guitar more expressive. Thanks, as always, for all that you do to educate, elucidate, and excite us about guitar tone! 🤘😜👍
Benson Germanium Boost into Source Audio Zio are my first two pedals in my chain. Individually they do what they are supposed to and sound amazing. Together they achieve my favorite overdrive sound. Simple and tons of mojo but sits perfect in the mix or cuts when you need it.
Heavy Water is an incredible pedal. One thing to add in your description is that the circuit of the 2nd boost, the one on the left, includes a pair of germanium diodes that begin to clip the signal musically as the boost level increases. So the two sides are pretty distinct. Running them together is, to use an overused term, glorious.
HEAVY WATER! Truly, it's my favorite pedal on planet Earth, and you guys feature it joyfully. Cheers, grippy treads on the bottoms of boots. If you were any more ends of legs, you'd be the ground.
Currently loving the TC Spark boost, 4 knob. So versatile, big beefy sound for lifting a clean amp. Cheap too!
Same, absolutely killer
I am a huge fan. Just got one.
TC Electronics Spark?? Best clean boost I have tried, and it's become almost indispensable as tool for live shows. Adds ridiculous sustain and boosts everything about the signal without too much coloring of the tone.
I also love TC Electronic Spark to death! It's tied with the Mad Professor Ruby Red as my favourite boost for the same reasons you stated; versatile, yet transparent.
Hi men... i am from Italy... this is the best youtube channel in the world for me... i always wait for a new video.... many thanks to you... just to let you know
My first TPS episode, my first Birthday “Pedal” gift and come back to this episode on my Birthday..Damn I love Boosters !! Happy Birthday to Me 🎉😜…
Happy Birthday Ganesh!
@@ThatPedalShow thanks a lot !!
When I saw the show title I was hoping there would be a treble booster included and I wasn't disappointed. One of my favorite aspects of a tb is that it's electrically close enough to a fuzz face that it kinda cleans up in the same way. A treble booster is essential for me.
Same man! I own a dozen TBs, just the best thing!
Hey Dan & Mick, love your show, as always 😊 Just to let you know in case you did anything differently, the audio quality on this week’s show was significantly improved to my ears. Listening through expensive flat response headphones. Keep up the good work. Love you guys 🎸🙂🙏
Hi Mick and Dan, I really love TPS. Thank you so much for all your fantastic work! I’d love to see an episode with the great guitarist and youtuber Ross Campbell as a guest!
That Dept. 10 sounds fantastic.
Hi LegEnds, that was a chuffing brilliant show, thank you.
Glorious episode!
Treble booster in the front of drives and a klon on the back end does all the things. Also I dig your new strat Mick.
This was a great episode, gents. Watched it last night and again this morning over coffee. Looking forward to the upcoming treble booster episode. If/as/when you do, please include a segment of how one sounds into a cranked amp that is already heavily compressing/overdriving, e.g., what happens to the flubby/wooliness when all those low-end freqs are cut ...
Cheers chaps, most interesting. A couple of those tones were absolutely blinking killer. :)
Awesome! Best duo on the internet
Ah, nice :-) This is a good week - new guitar (McInturff Carolina), and now a TPS episode on boosts. Love my boost pedals.
I bought a Matchless Phoenix recently. It made me rethink my pedal situation. I'm using two pedals as boosts (original Bluesbreaker and Black Arts Toneworks) as well as a distortion set with just a bit of gain to push that amp to different levels of overdrive/distortion. Heaven.
My favorite into so far by far!
Gosh I love it when you play that guitar. I have no horse in the race with the Supro, but it is just in a different spot that sounds pretty fantastic.
Great show guys! ✨ Gonna have to get a Heavy Water now...
That Zio is magic. Soooo versatile.
Chase Bliss Brothers, I use both channels as boost, running parallel and then into an Xotic Effects RC booster. My Blues Deluxe is set super clean.This is the best, most open and dynamic touch sensitive sounding overdriven sound I've ever had.
When asked what pedal should I buy, my reply is always: 3 boosts! Mix and match until you find the magic.
I just received a Pete Cornish TB-83 Extra Duplex Battery Free earlier this week, and tomorrow my Pete Cornish NB-3 arrives! I also have this single Pete Cornish TB-83 Extra that you have as well. Such an incredible pedal!
It's worth mentioning that Pete designed the TB-83 extra to be stacked on top of an already in-line TB-83 that never turns off. The TB-83 extra at full "volume" is the same as the TB-83 in-line. You really need to get some more and start stacking them to increase the magic!
The TB-83 was also specifically designed to be used with a Vox AC-30 channel without treble boost, so while trying it on different amps can be fun, it isn't really showcasing it at its best. Let's hear it with Dan's vintage vox on the regular channel!
It’s basically a Silicon Rangemaster with a 3k frequency boost.
There is no line driver/ buffer in the Tb83 or 9”83 extra
@@cobowe Correct, no buffer in the TB83 or extra. In fact, he recommends using them from guitar to TB-83 to amp. Since it's designed to have one always on, no buffer would be needed.
still the highlight of every Friday and yes, I must get out more!
Damn that intro playing was tasty Mick
Thank you Andy!
Nice score on the Cornish!
Quick shout out to all using treble boosters-when I first got my A-man Beano Boost and jammed with it alone I thought man that’s pretty harsh…
As soon as bass and drums are added and I’m in the band mix, it’s a all-around weapon. I can throw it in front of any pedal and any amp I’ve set up (which yes, is always edge of break-up) and it always sounds great. I use it as a solo boost, to add more gain to a sound & roll guitar volume off to cut in mix but sit behind vocals, to go from already-huge-wall-crumbing noises to bananalands feedback…it’s A+++.
That would've come in handy 3 weeks ago when i bought an Arrows by Earthquaker Devices. No worries, it is a very fine pedal and thanks for your videos anyway.
That Supro is possibly the cheapest guitar you guys possess but it ALWAYS sounds absolutely amazing.
Another great show gents, I really liked the dept 10. As always many thanks
Ronnie James Zio would be proud. You two are joyous rainbows in the dark.
My favourite boost I’ve tried has to be the Xotic RC Version 2. The gain controls are so useful and the boost works as an incredible overdrive pedal too. It’s unbelievably versatile!
My favorite overdrive sound these days; the Klon side of the Nordvang Custom 83 Drive into the Analogman Bad Bob Booster.
That Supro always brings something out in Mick!
If anything, this exactly shows, why to run amps close to breakup and why boost after ovedrive is great idea. I understand, that someone who is running amp very clean with lots of headroom to spare might not be happy with boost after drives.
But here, stellar. Clearer, more articulate. Just great sound.
I have the J Rockett Mark Sampson Max. It's great for adding chime but you can also darken your sound with it, really useful. I have it on all the time and it makes everything sound so much better. I can't recommend it enough.
As always, came for the pedals - stayed for the playing. Both in the mood to engage with pedals and it's magical. Please jam together more!! :) Excellent amp choices too.
As far as boosts go, I can't recommend the Laney Steelpark boost enough. Multi-purpose gizmo, does clean boost, has a mid boost (TS Style) setting, a low-mid setting (fat), bass/treble controls and it stacks beautifully - into pedals, after pedals, into a clean or cooking amp. Does everything. Not to mention the excellent buffer it has. And it looks killer, comes in a lovely box, is built like a tank and it hovers around 100 bucks.
I’m all for this kinda booster mandate. Secret Chord by Spiral Electric FX (Tom Cram, ex DOD genius) is my current fav boost. 🤓
Booster Mandate!
I love putting a couple of boosts together. Currently I'm using a J Rockett Blue Note with the RC Boost (v1). Great results.
When you do the Treble Booster episode, I hope you can include the Walrus Emissary Parallel Boost - an always on, must-have, essential for me (into both clean and dirt channels of the amp). Great episode as always and just loved the tones from the Thorpy (and Dan's feedback fun!!!)
Great Episode! My now most used pedal is actually a boost! But the Metropolous Supa Boost is a category of its own. It runs on 112V and is by no means comparable to any other boost.
The boost from the Dane just makes everything better
These intros are always killer !
Dep 10 and BF Fenders. Pretty much perfect for those who cannot afford a Kingsley. Nice with the bass and treble controls..
The J Rockett Holdsworth Boost pedal in front of the Strymon Riverside is very musical. Wait 'til Biggus hears of this!
Nice. Just picked up the Hamstead Ascent this past week.
Heard really good things about the Zio and its great, but the Heavy Water is just awesome. Looking forward to the Patreon email by the way :-)
I bought the blackstar department 10 boost and it’s exactly what I wanted to add a tube feel to my jazz chorus. Unfortunately my power supply doesn’t vibe well with it but it’s a great pedal. Highly recommended
I like the Zio alot. I'd also recommend the Boss GE 200 to folks. Use it for both acoustic and electric. Most useful pedal I've ever bought.
(I thought)...this might get loud. I was right! Great episode 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I've recently bought the Epoch Boost by Catalinbread and put it at the very end of my chain, after delays and reverbs. And it's like some magical glue that puts everything together in a pleasant chewy way.
Crivens! That Supro sounds rawkus. Love it.
Ha! Dan used exactly the same word after the intro!
Crivens! Hahahahahahahaa
FINALLY a Cornish pedal! About time! I really wish you guys would do a Cornish family comparison. They’re expensive, but it’s not like that’s stopped you guys before (automatone, tape delays etc) 🤓
Mick channeling the next White Stripes album in the intro, love it!
That supro guitar sounded amazing in the intro! I would love a short video on it
There's a reason I flank my preferred overdrive pedal of the moment with two clean boosts. The one before gives me more saturation, the one after gives me more volume. The whole lot goes into my Mesa/Boogie F-50 loaded with KT66HP tubes for even more headroom. When you're dealing with a high headroom setup like this, the two boosts don't need to be turned up very high to have a large effect. Generally speaking, I run my boosts probably in the +3 to +6 dB range at most, if they are even that high, the knobs just barely off the minimum stops by about 30-45 degrees, tops. Depending on the overdrive, I will run either two tc electronic Spark mini boosters or two One Control BJFe Granith Grey boosters.
That was absolutely glorious :D
Using treble boosters, can't help but notice the Hammer to Fall did so on Mick's thumb!
that supro is gorgeous!
Great show guys! Consider doing an EP boost show. Mojo Hand Speakeasy, Xotic EP Booster, Catlinbread Epoch Boost, MXR Echoplex preamp. It would be great here all these EP style boost/preamp pedals in one show...
Great show as always ! And yeah, goes to show Marshalls eat boosts for breakfast...
For the next show on treble boosters, use the Marshall and the Vox that lurks in the background ! A Rangemaster into an AC30 is one of the quintessential blues/rock tones after all (and I can totally see Mick with one of his Strats -obviously- channeling some Rory Gallagher).
That Pedal Show doing pedals? Lol. Just a little jab. I love all the shows.