Mixing KNOCKED LOOSE drums w/ Will Putney

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @URMAcademy
    @URMAcademy  4 роки тому +12

    Get this session: nailthemix.com/knockedloose

  • @blaythessteuer
    @blaythessteuer 5 років тому +196

    the raw drums sounded insanely good going in. real drums recorded well in metal make such a difference its crazy

    • @blacksaona
      @blacksaona 5 років тому +51

      These were not raw, those sounds are processed in real time by analog gear. Thats why it sounds so punchy already without any plugins.

    • @RobKingRC
      @RobKingRC 4 роки тому +7

      @@blacksaona Plus he adds a sample on top which i prefer not to do because everyone else is doing that nowadays...

    • @blacksaona
      @blacksaona 4 роки тому +3

      @@RobKingRC why not!?

    • @RobKingRC
      @RobKingRC 4 роки тому +18

      @@blacksaona Nothing wrong with it. I just like to push myself to get better at mixing drums without samples. Not because of Glenn fricker lol

    • @blacksaona
      @blacksaona 4 роки тому +22

      @@RobKingRC Ohh well, thats a good point, but i think it depends of how are the drums played and recorded. Most great albums use samples of the same drum session. (When you tell the drummer to hit just the snare, kick, toms independently, so you can actually get the whole sustain of each one and compress it),
      THERE IS NO WAY to get the most sustain of a snare in a room mic without having it being masked from other instruments (like cymbals).
      A snare sounds good alone, but when is all together, its gone. So autosampling it is a good way to get the most of your sounds without "cheating" cuz ur using real drum of the same drum session.

  • @hectorvegasduque2234
    @hectorvegasduque2234 2 роки тому +35

    The kick man, everything is on point, but that classic Will Putney kick drum is just ear candy

    • @orora667
      @orora667 2 роки тому +1

      Will is an insane producer / mixing engineer. My biggest inspiration with Henrik Udd

  • @ТэйлерДжонсон
    @ТэйлерДжонсон 3 роки тому +40

    I just listened to "Necessary Death" by END and I had to know who mixed it. It was absolutely amazing! 4 minutes in, I already have more knowledge that will improve my own mixes.

    • @jtl0411
      @jtl0411 3 роки тому +4

      He also played guitar on it. A legend living among us

  • @SomeJustice19k
    @SomeJustice19k 5 років тому +20

    This is fucking awesome. Knocked Loose reinvigorated an old love for music that I thought long forgotten, and the inside look at how it's made is amazing.

  • @kylegrossi8175
    @kylegrossi8175 3 роки тому +3

    Unreal how good his drum captures are. Source tone is everything.

  • @devinbuchhorn
    @devinbuchhorn 5 років тому +22

    Will, you are the man! Thanks for doing this. This is the first time I've heard of "key spikes" (spelling?) would love a short tutorial on that with best practices.

    • @DavideGuerri
      @DavideGuerri 5 років тому +5

      easiest way to do them is to duplicate the original track and use the slate trigger gate with almost no sustain and hold time. another way to do that would be recording triggers on the shells.

    • @amphlett7
      @amphlett7 5 років тому +4

      There’s a video of Machine mixing lamb of god on URM where he shows the key spikes. I’d assume they’d be fairly similar

    • @URMAcademy
      @URMAcademy  4 роки тому +5

      ua-cam.com/video/BGEQhm5ECBw/v-deo.html

  • @ZsoltSapi1
    @ZsoltSapi1 5 років тому +35

    Did Will produce and mix the drums on Gojira's Magma album?
    That juicy kick sound alone gives me goosebumps.

    • @karl-johanthenstrom222
      @karl-johanthenstrom222 5 років тому +14

      According to Wikipedia Will did additional engineering and Johann Meyer/Joe Duplantier did the mixing.

    • @luc.musicproducer
      @luc.musicproducer 5 років тому +15

      he only did vocal engineering if I'm not mistaken

  • @OleVinny
    @OleVinny 3 роки тому +2

    Such a great drummer. Perfectly in time yet also pushing a wall of energy at all times

  • @thejamesonproject
    @thejamesonproject 5 років тому +56

    dude is still using logic 9. gimme a high five!

    • @AndrewBarrMusic
      @AndrewBarrMusic 4 роки тому +4

      made me feel pretty good that incredible music is made on old software. Its not the gear. Its the ear

    • @iliev93
      @iliev93 4 роки тому +3

      @@AndrewBarrMusic Of course, if the software was used to make great sounding records in the past there's no reason why it can't be used to make great records in the present.

    • @snapascrew
      @snapascrew Рік тому

      @@AndrewBarrMusic most of my fav records were done on like protools 7.4 lol

  • @jorgelopez9620
    @jorgelopez9620 5 років тому +4

    Beaut, just heard the album today, had to come looking. Great job

  • @GuitarFromTheTomb
    @GuitarFromTheTomb 5 років тому +6

    May just have to sign up, then go back to get this one. Will is the man! Anyone know how much to purchase previous months?

    • @URMAcademy
      @URMAcademy  4 роки тому +2

      Once you are logged in, just go to the Nail The Mix area and you'll see all of them!

  • @pascalolejnik7347
    @pascalolejnik7347 10 місяців тому +1

    I really don't understand all the routing and everything he does with the drums, is there any way to learn this step by step and understand the whole bus thing and what goes where and why? sorry for the noob kinda question, but I´ve always wanted to understand this

  • @KGTv123
    @KGTv123 2 роки тому +2

    What is that 240p footage at 10:32 lol

  • @DDMOLSBERRY
    @DDMOLSBERRY 5 років тому +2

    Damn ! I wish I had the sound of this room. I recently moved and my new house is basically a parking garage and my drums get washy. definitely gonna be trying to sound treat for the time being. Great video!!!

  • @kaynezhashino
    @kaynezhashino 3 роки тому +3

    damn! How old is his Logic??!!

    • @URMAcademy
      @URMAcademy  3 роки тому +2

      Logic 9, baby!

    • @kaynezhashino
      @kaynezhashino 3 роки тому +1

      @@URMAcademy Respect! But Why not the latest one?

  • @TheJakeharms
    @TheJakeharms 9 місяців тому

    What is the "superior" plugin he's talking abt? Also, is he currently mixing in logic 9? Just curious

  • @SamTonkin
    @SamTonkin 4 роки тому +6

    Would like to know the story behind Will's Apple tattoo haha

  • @proddreamatnight
    @proddreamatnight 5 років тому +3

    Will Pitney snare >

  • @FragNartYT
    @FragNartYT 5 років тому +1

    🔥

  • @GeneoVanEngers
    @GeneoVanEngers 4 роки тому +6

    dude still uses old school logic HAHA. SKILLZ

  • @kyleadamsdrums
    @kyleadamsdrums Рік тому

    I am just astounded by how old this version of logic is he uses. honestly looks more usable than today's version in many ways haha

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic 3 роки тому

    How do you create the spikes? Logic isn't great at converting audio to midi, and retaining the time.

    • @ApostolOfficial
      @ApostolOfficial 2 роки тому

      basically those are just extremely gated and compressed sounds from direct mics, which then you're sidechaining to gate

  • @regrecordingstudio7671
    @regrecordingstudio7671 4 роки тому +1

    what software are you using

  • @MarcusSt0ne
    @MarcusSt0ne 5 років тому +4

    Their drummer looks like robin leijon lol

  • @AnotherWorldYT
    @AnotherWorldYT 4 роки тому +4

    Knocked Loose are fuckin sick, especially their early shit. I love hearing a real punk band, that kind of beatdown flavour just doesn't sound as heavy overproduced.

  • @rockboy360
    @rockboy360 5 років тому +14

    I wouldn't put any samples on such awesome sounding real drums, they don't need it.
    Awesome result nonetheless.

    • @rockboy360
      @rockboy360 5 років тому +3

      @ryanshreevedrums definetely, this was flawlessly executed, very subtle.

    • @lobster272
      @lobster272 4 роки тому +2

      @ryanshreevedrums man, am I the only one who hates the way his drums sound in a mix? Way too thin and clicky/snappy.

    • @TYFLOL
      @TYFLOL 4 роки тому +1

      @@lobster272 I think it fits the song, but yeah would be cool if they were a little less thin

    • @orora667
      @orora667 3 роки тому +3

      @@lobster272 listen to evergreen from after the burial, the drum sound is huge compared to human target from thy art is murder

  • @mikepurkiss2040
    @mikepurkiss2040 2 роки тому

    how did he make logic look like that ?

  • @gastonjabaly
    @gastonjabaly Рік тому +1

    The nerds have taken over metal thats why it sounds so perfect as pretty as and clean as pop dude has 8real mics and 40 samples yuk

  • @randomselect645
    @randomselect645 Рік тому

    4 distressors hahaha , and I can't afford 1

  • @prashuryagoswami6122
    @prashuryagoswami6122 4 роки тому

    Why not logic 10

  • @RobKingRC
    @RobKingRC 4 роки тому +3

    Although samples are a quick fix and sound good, I prefer to hone my craft of mixing drums without any samples because everyone is using them and all drums are starting to sound the same.

  • @aragorn767
    @aragorn767 4 роки тому +2

    The real mics sounded way better without the samples, IMO.

    • @UncleChuzz
      @UncleChuzz 4 роки тому +6

      I agree but they’ll get buried in the guitars without em

    • @aragorn767
      @aragorn767 4 роки тому +2

      @@UncleChuzz Not if you eq them to cut though and throw on a bus compressor. Watch any of the vids on mixing drums by Spectre Sound Studios. No samples used.

    • @UncleChuzz
      @UncleChuzz 4 роки тому +13

      aragorn767 I’m very familiar with Glenn’s work, but eh, Will’s system works so who really cares.

    • @sebastiandordoni2268
      @sebastiandordoni2268 4 роки тому +21

      At the end of the day , whose works sound Best ? Will or glenn's? Glenn's mixes suck dick and Will mixes are just amazing, i give a rat's ass if he uses samples or not

    • @GreatBurningNullifier
      @GreatBurningNullifier 4 роки тому +11

      @@aragorn767 Lol Glenn fricker sucks.

  • @jeffbridges6110
    @jeffbridges6110 5 років тому +4

    Samples on a kick sound too machine like.

    • @jeffbridges6110
      @jeffbridges6110 5 років тому +5

      @Brent Woodard that makes no sense.

    • @SuperAlfonsoBros
      @SuperAlfonsoBros 5 років тому +5

      I think the longstanding argument is it helps cut through the mix. Double bass tends to get muddy if I remember correctly at certain speed?

    • @jeffbridges6110
      @jeffbridges6110 5 років тому

      @Brent Woodard my bad misunderstood you.

    • @jeffbridges6110
      @jeffbridges6110 5 років тому +1

      @@SuperAlfonsoBros yeah I get that. But people tend to overdo it with the triggered sound verse the acoustic. I mean , I get blending. But when it's too artificial , it's too machine like. And then you got guys who turn the sensitivity up so much on the trigger , they could pull these amazing patterns of with a feather. Which in my opinion, is lame.

  • @bluecollarmetal7
    @bluecollarmetal7 5 років тому

    Logic :(

  • @MichaelGuy
    @MichaelGuy 4 роки тому

    why would u want your toms to sound like folger's coffee cans? its metal man .... I don't get it .. this guy is mega talented, but its girl scout cookies when we need steak. metal toms should sound like a harley davidson starting up.

  • @brandonkeller478
    @brandonkeller478 4 роки тому +2

    Never use one shot samples on kick you need to have different velocities in the samples to ACCENTUATE the drummer’s feel ... snare is fine since most punk drummers only know how to hit 2 and 4 lol

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic 3 роки тому +10

      You don't know much about drummers. Lol

    • @svenlk
      @svenlk 2 роки тому +5

      You really tried to tell this guy how to mix drums? 😂🤡

  • @knelson1180
    @knelson1180 5 років тому +1

    Samples? And I'm out....

    • @ZachIsARuhtard
      @ZachIsARuhtard 4 роки тому +8

      Kevin 👋🏼

    • @GreatBurningNullifier
      @GreatBurningNullifier 4 роки тому +14

      Lol I'm pretty sure most music you listen to has samples in it.

    • @BukanIbuMu
      @BukanIbuMu 4 роки тому +9

      @@GreatBurningNullifier relax, he's just a Glenn Fricker fanboy

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic 3 роки тому

      Or... samples just suck, using someone else's recoding of real drums becoase you can't mic real drums properly and get a player. That is what this is. Pantera.. no samples.

    • @KeepTheGates
      @KeepTheGates Рік тому +2

      @@morbidmanmusic pantera is literally full of drum sample lol.

  • @LoveItDirtyOffroad
    @LoveItDirtyOffroad 4 роки тому

    Ugh. Samples🙄

    • @blackthornestudios4984
      @blackthornestudios4984 4 роки тому +18

      Your favorite albums probably have samples all over them.

    • @LoveItDirtyOffroad
      @LoveItDirtyOffroad 4 роки тому

      I was pretty disappointed when I heard the first Rage album used snare samples. No way Tool would.

    • @LoveItDirtyOffroad
      @LoveItDirtyOffroad 4 роки тому

      Kyle Ganger can i just copy and paste someone elses work and call it mine? Lol

    • @UncleChuzz
      @UncleChuzz 4 роки тому +25

      Adam Vaughn that is the most ridiculous assertion I’ve ever read.

    • @sebastiandordoni2268
      @sebastiandordoni2268 4 роки тому +5

      Let's hear some of your productions big man, i'm sure they pro just like will