"Snowy Street Running (And Please Move Your Car!)"
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2018
- It's just before sunset on January 18, 2018. New York, Susquehanna & Western's UT-1, with No. 3040 up front, is northbound on Utica, NY's Schuyler Street. It is 22 degrees and snowing. No. 3040 is bringing four covered hoppers back to the Utica Yard from Sangerfield, 23 miles to the south. Near the end of its run down Schuyler, UT-1 stops for a few moments as the crew wait for a motorist to move his car.
It's just common courtesy: Anytime there's a vehicle coming towards you that can flatten you like a pancake, get out of his way.
True that ,the laws of physics will trump your obstinacy every time.
As usual, so much to love about any videos of this operation. Gorgeous K5H, but also the idea that everyone in the neighborhood knows that particular horn blast means to move your car. It'd be a quirky street to live on
Holy shit. I've seen ice move faster than the guy who was eventually moving his car
True..some poeple just like🤔
There should be a sign that says "No Parking or the train will move your car for you!"
NO PARKING. Violators will be towed by train.
😂
Very good video, great shots and we’ll done. I love the fact they still have street running, sit on the porch and watch trains rolling passed your front door.
As many times as I was personally in Utica, I never was there to see the trains rolling through. Really cool!
Awesome combination of street running and snowy weather !!!!
Winter parking and street trains - wicked combo! :D Good ole' upstate NY.
When I was very young, a restaurant my grandparents took me to had a selection on the jukebox called THE TRAIN RAN THRU THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE. It was a childhood fave. My idea of paradise!!
m.ua-cam.com/video/DhmXFXoyw6U/v-deo.html
I love street running trains. I have travelled to a handful of states to film them. Nice video!
How many are there of them in the US?
I have not driven by here in a while, I think they might have taken down the old watchtower, but if you like street trains you would have liked this.
lite987.com/railroad-watch-tower-in-utica/
Jaw Tooth sucks there is less now...
MoreMBTA. That’s a good thing! There will be less car/train related accidents in the future!
when they happen they aren't too bad, and a street runner is something special. If you saw a street runner in real life you'd understand
Ah, memories. I lived in Clark Mills, just west of Utica, from 1988 to 1991 and remember seeing the Susquehanna trains on Schuyler Street. I can recall riding one of the diesel excursions on this line when the late Walter Rich still owned the railroad and contracted with the local NRHS chapters for the trips. At the time, the Susquehanna still had two dome cars, a former CB&Q "Twin Zephyr" parlor-observation and a former UP lounge-observation rebuilt with a theater rear end (this car was called the "Popemobile", after the domed automobile used by Pope John Paul II).
This is simply awesome! Cara are proceeding casually unmindful of the train's approach! The train driver must be very cautious!
this is neat :) looks like a tram line in the middel of the street until you see a big cargo train on it :)
That is so awesome.
Love to see it live.
GORGEOUS Norman Rockwell living painting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Utica has been called a lot of things, but never a Norman Rockwell painting.
I love street running trains too and it still amazes me there are as many as there are in the U.S. still in the 21st Century. Great video and thanks so much for posting.
Thanks, glad you liked the video!
Jeez I would love to see a list of all these street trains. I would certainlt make a point in trying to see a street train one day.
I'm sure that railroad was there long before the street was put in.
Thank you. why is that so hard for people to understand?
"I'm sure that railroad was there long before the street was put in." ?? most certainly not - many railroads in the US were put into existing streets.
Schuyler Street was there first, although those tracks have been there since the 1860S. The DL&W put those tracks in when starting their branch southbound and eventually down to Binghampton.
Or the street was there before the railroad. Much of this *dates back to a time in our history* when trains moved much slower and towns wanted trains close for convenience. For many towns, the railroad replaced the stagecoach, wagon trains, and cargo pulled by horses. Towns worked hard to attract the railroad, which helped the towns to grow from the revenue generated by passenger and cargo traffic along with new residents. The railroads benefited from the increased stops for food, water, fuel, and additional passengers.
H.M. Müller doesn’t really matter the train still has the right of way.
Presumably the driver is the parent of the "slow children" mentioned on the nearby sign?
LMAO !!! good one !
The Apple Doesn't Fall Far From The Tree
I LOVE Short line railroad stuff and street running is so cool. Thanks for posting this Railroad Rambler.
I love EVERYTHING about this video! Earned a new subscriber with this one!
Citys were built around railroad tracks and the automobile wasn't even born.So priority goes to;tadam! TRAINS!!!
Well, George Stephenson did perfect the steam locomotive in 1825, long before the advent of the automobile...
Or you could just point out that trains (obviously) can't divert away from the tracks and take a long time to stop, so they should automatically be given right of way.
awesome footage! I love that horn! sounds like a K5LA
I have watch the Susie Q on many miles of it"s line from Utica South to Rte 20, and hope to use this in my HO RR. This video of Schuyler St is great, never been to see her running here in the snow. Excellent.
Great catch ! I love the street running
Love that K5H horn! Nice video!
Mr. Engineer, I give you permission to hit those cars!
Enjoyed your vid.Loved colours.
Cheers.
I can imagine those who devised the plan for the streets saying : "Cars? That's only a passing fad".
at one time many citys had street cars, trolleys , trams . roads were paved around the tracks and when the street railways abandoned passenger ( many had freight(goods) operations , that continued, and many streetcar lines were owned by big railroads and got swolloed up into their system. the other posters are correct too.
If they ever wanted to do a live-action remake of The Polar Express, they could use this street for filming the opening and closing scenes.
Sure, but where are they going to get a functioning Lima Locomotive Works Berkshire? They'd have to ship 1225 over from the Great Lakes area.
Great and spectacular video! Greetings from Italy. Ciao. Stefano :-)
The slow children are driving now.
Great video from Okeechobee Florida.
This is fantastic! :)
Jason
Many European cities have trams running down the streets so this is no different. This engine is quite a lot bigger, heavier and more powerful than a tram but whether a tram or this engine hit you it would still be a bad day. If I lived there I'd keep my car well away from the railroad. Out of interest for those living in Schulyer street are there ever accidents?
Cool to see in such a contemporary setting.
Despite living in Utica, I'm curious how Schuyler Street was managed after nor'Easter Stella. My side of Utica (east) was only one lane for a week.
Why are the headlights not wig wagging?
I be up there next January to watch this...way cool..
Didn't realize this was hometown for me tilI clicked on it. Nice! Hoping he was going into the Brewery.
Cool street running freight train-this reminds me of the BNSF main that runs down a street in downtown Fort Collins Colorado (BNSF"s Cheyenne Subdivision that runs north from Denver).
Running up and down that street was a real pain especially in winter and during the night !
Nice 1 man! U even got the horn in the background!
Love the crossing at 04:42. I've NEVER seen a crossing where the train/track and cross bucks face each other. Happy railroading!!!
very cool i grew up around trains my house was 30 feet away from the tracks.
There is a street sort of like this in my home town but there is a little more room on the sides. However, they actually closed off the narrowest section to vehicle traffic to avoid stuff like this.
How come the street was constructed on the rail line or vice versa? Like its deffinately cool of course but looks tedious combining the 2 methods of transportation.
Ok, something's seriously fucked with the perspective.
I was 100% sure that the red car was MORE in the way than the one who moved.
WTF?
The telephoto zoom makes it very hard to judge distances.
Yeah, I suppose that must be it...
I've seen it before in other videos, but in this case it seemed to be rather close, he just zoomed out a little and then stopped. The weird perspectives usually show up at more extreme distances (or with more extreme lenses)... or at least so I thought.
That's exactly what I was thinking, too.
Then the guy comes out and moves the car and I thought "You'd better get your buddy with the red car out there to move his, too," and then...two toots on the horn and we're rolling again.
Yeah me too. I thought both cars were well out the way. So did the drivers I guess
For a second, I thought I was looking at the South Shore Line running down the street in Michigan City, IN. Wasn't aware of other "street running" operations.
What's in the hopper cars? Is it actually all hops for beer?
Who got back from Sangerville the guy with the bags walking or the train?
That car owner was just lazy and arrogant for not moving his car way before the train got there. There's no way he didn't hear the train honking for ages before it got there, he just thinks he's more important than everyone else.
he must have voted for Obama and Hilary
Philippe Riopel Utica NY is loaded with them unfortunately.
well,nowadays that's PC'ing it.
Maybe there was something on TV that he just couldn't tear himself away from.
Utica is already down the tubes as is every other big city in Upstate NY.
Is there a certain time the train runs down the street so the residence can move their cars?
Nice winter video.
First time coming across your channel, great videos! Sub'd
There's a sign there that says it all: "Slow children" at play...
Utica is one of the most beautiful towns in all of o'le America! Voted: Most livable town in the US: 4 years in a freaking row! Go Utica!!!
Bath salts, today? The city is a crime filled dump today.
@Ray C Tide pods may explain it.
So how many train smashing car accidents are in this neighborhood each month?
When you spawn a train on a tram tracks in GTA San Andreas.
Why does the train go on the street?! Or it is just usual thing in USA? Or is it road was built on the rail tracks? Kinda weird to see such a thing. Does airplanes landing on the usual roads as well, just behind the corner?
Startled Visitor: What was that???
Veteran Resident: Oh, just a train crushing a couple of cars.
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All I can say is WOW! I've never seen anything like it
Very nice video and bad spot there too!!!
How often does this train run?
The railroad might want to spend a few bucks spray painting a traffic lane line. Great video.
And when it gets covered up with snow?
I've never seen a freight train run down the middle of the street before. That's crazy. And cool.
Not if you live on that street.
That's just nuts. I've never seen anything like that before.
Great catch
I swear peoples eyesight is getting weaker. Can they not see the 125 ton elephant in the road? It must be from texting. Great video!
The city of NY did away with all street level trains in 1941 because so many people were killed by freight trains rolling about walking speed with bells ringing etc., even when the railroad hired cowboys on horseback to ride ahead of the engines waving a large red flag and shouting, the space cadets would STILL wind up under the wheels!!!
10th Ave where a track was, was nicknamed "Death Avenue"
The big push came to ban the trains after a kid playing some game with friends climbed on a moving train and fell under the wheels and was ground into hamburger, the last cowboy on horseback leading the train run on 10th Ave was George Hayde on 3-29-1941 with his horse "Cyclone" and the tracks were removed.
By 1908, the Bureau of Municipal Research claimed that since 1852, the trains had killed 436 people. A New York Times piece from the same year reported that in the preceding decade there had been almost 200 deaths, mostly of children.
The city did, however, take certain precautions in the 1850s, setting an ordinance
requiring a person on horseback to ride ahead of the train, making
pedestrians and traffic aware of the train's nearing arrival. Known as
West Side Cowboys, these legendary figures waved red flags and lanterns
to warn those on street level.
But these urban cowboys could not keep the hazard at bay, and the
tracks remained a danger for city residents. In the late 1800s,
neighborhood pressure resulted in the tracks further uptown moving below street level.
South of Grand Central, however, the trains remained, and various
incidents set off a series of protests against the street-level tracks.
In 1894, a man who had lost a leg in an accident caused by the train set
fire to a portion of the tracks, and in 1897, thieves took to the cars.
Finally, in 1908, the death of a seven-year-old boy sparked mass
action, as five-hundred people took to the streets to protest the
hazardous conditions.
In addition to the public discontent, the city pressured the railroad
company to change its practices, ultimately refusing to accept the
railroad's licensing fee in 1908. This tactic could not work for long,
however, as the railroad was responsible for much of the food supply to
the city, running along meat warehouses and grocery outlets.
www.thehighline.org/blog/2015/10/22/the-history-of-death-avenue
A video of a train rolling down the avenue with a cowboy in front appears here www.livinthehighline.com/the-original-urban-cowboy/
Great info, thanks for posting!
Victorian Sculptures hey, an interesting comment on youtube
Dead Frt West ii
No. I dont think it's the drivers fault here. We need to have a chat with whom ever created this road way and thought this was safe.
We often go up to and thru Utica and would love to see train movements like this. How do you know when to be available to see these movements? Thanks for posting them.
There's no hard-and-fast schedule. My office is near the tracks in South Utica so when a northbound goes by, it's an easy run for me over to Schuyler Street. Generally, the Susquehanna moves south on Schuyler anywhere between 9-1 (usually 9-11) and will return 1-5 (usually mid-afternoon). Sorry, that's the best I can do. Glad you liked the video.
@@railroadingrambler218 Is there a bakery or cereal mill near there? Those look like grain cars,
Why don't they paint lines that show where you can't "stick-out-beyond" and let the police enforce it? Or, just plow through. Railroad has right-of-way, right?
There's a section of street trackage I know of in Anaheim where they painted yellow lines warning cars to stay away, it's pretty effective.
Problem is, who would pay for the paint? The railroad is really the only one who would benefit from it, so are they going to pick up the tab for it? I prefer the "plow-through" solution. Usually, yes the railway has the right-of-way, but I don't know the history of (when) this railroad was laid and when the street/road went in. It's nice that they gave the motorist a chance, but the pr!ck sure enough took his sweet-ass time about it.
Yeah, I don't really blame the car owner. Not everyone knows exactly how wide a train in motion is and it doesn't look like there's much in the way of signage or paint telling people how/where to park. If the streets were better cleared of snow there would also be a little more room for people to make sure they are parked well away from the tracks. This is just poorly maintained and signed infrastructure, the railway and the city need to spend the minor amount of money and effort to improve things.
I pretty much agree with you Jarren. THis is an unusual situation and given the snow and lack of understanding the rail line is active perhaps it was just an honest mistake.
Stan Patterson - "who would pay for the paint?" The paint would cost about $500.00 and the legal battle deciding who would pay for it would cost about $500,000.00 !!
Excellent video, life in the "fast" lane??
Really Very Nice WHICH PLACE
WHAT?a train in the town?no way.i love it
Engineer has good self control God bless him AMEN!
Looks just like the DF locomotives in New Zealand!
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i LOVE this !
Cool so see this! Nice!
City and state that Post video from
Notch 8 will clear all obstacles
At notch 8, there are no obstacles! Only temporary targets!
Full speed ahead!!
good one!
reminds me of the trains on 19th trains in Erie pa
I wouldn't move onto that street
Is that Loco a GT-22?
I think this is amazing. The only thing is the road needs to be a little bit wider to comfortibly fit 3 lanes of traffic. Yeah great video too!!
There was a UA-cam video of a train in the UK at a coastal town running along the road before the line was closed
That is incredibly cool to see. Thank you for posting.
On a side note, people just do not give a damn about the train come and do they? As for me I love getting caught at train crossings. But this would be even cooler. I even have a bunch of videos on my channel of trains passing and stopping at the station here in town
Why don't they re-lay the roadway so that the train tracks are to one side so that there is a large width for the road traffic and not tow narrow widths?
Cars Will Be Flying In The Air Like Crazy And Up To Heaven
John - I assume this is your site -- just found it and am enjoying seeing the Utica area railwise. Thanks
Yes, Rev, it's me, lol. Glad you found the Mother Ship! Also, if you're on Facebook, there's a lot more CNY/Utica material on my FB group, also, imaginatively enough, named Railroading Rambler.
Yah I saw it...a signboard saying "Slow Children at play" on a street where locomotives rubs with cars and pedestrians
Wow.
I'm surprised they still allow a train line right thru the residential streets like so
Lol, train waiting for the green light!
I liked the brain-e-ack that backed out in front of it!
It was a safe move on the car driver's part. The distance to the train and the train's slow speed allowed for the sharing of the road.
So the crossing lights “knew” the train stoppped?
Awesome!
But where the hell is this at, train in the middle of the street and cars parked on the side, some small country town, like really.
I wouldn’t of had a problem pushing the cars out of the way
And the RR will pay the damages on that one.
At a fire in the old Montréal, a fire truck had to shove police cruisers to get to the fire! It's on UA-cam.
That is OK because the same municipality that owns the fire trucks owns the police cars!
@@pisciatto4385 no its only okay because it was an act to respond to an emergency efficiently.
3 Things:
1:Bigger roads or lack of train track through the city.
2: Make it illegal to park on the street.
3: Make all the traffic signals near the tracks stay red when a train is nearby.
Because clearly people drive through/over the tracks even though the signal lights are flashing and they can see the train.