"New Sheriff In Town" NYS&W Utica NY Branch
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2022
- New York, Susquehanna & Western No. 3040, long the primary power on the railroad's Utica NY line, experienced several breakdowns in January 2022, the last occurring in Sangerfield on Jan 20th.
On Jan 25th, help arrived in the form of CSX 2651, a GP38-2. This engine came up from New Jersey on the Susquehanna's SU99, then came east from Syracuse on CSX.
This video captures 2651's first day working the Utica branch.
The opening scene is on Utica's Schuyler Street where the train holds for a few moments to make sure a parked car doesn't have to be moved. The car's owner comes out of his home to check on things as well.
Following scenes include activity in nearby New Hartford on former NYO&W Utica Division tracks then, back on the main, in Chadwicks, Clayville & Paris Station.
The video concludes with 2651 bringing 3040 and 12 freight cars northbound on Schuyler Street approximately 4:30pm.
The train stopped again for a parked car; this time the owner had to move it to allow the train to proceed.
As a NYO&W history fan, I appreciate any shots of the small remnants of the Old and Weary still active. Commentary is excellent, informative, not intrusive or padded with small talk. Great video!
Thanks for your kind words!
Check out my drone video following the O&W Utica Division from Union Station to New Hartford ua-cam.com/video/nE1--PWRihg/v-deo.html
@@railroadingrambler218 Are there any maps of the lines in the area?
I’m from Utica and I just love hearing the trains from the train stations
I’m from Utica New York and my dad worked at the round house here locally, as a young man. As a kid he would hop on one of the rail cars and go to Syracuse. When he was sent home, I’m sure his dad gave it to him’. He would always tell me stories. Thank you for sharing this, video. Linda Colangelo
I'd love to hear some of your dad's stories but how ?
@@jimdep6542 my dads family were loggers from Canada. Montebello. Eventually some came in to the states, to Benson Mines. Very large family( Thomas’s from Normandy France…. So by the time my dad was born his mom died. During the depression all these kids ,were put in Orphanage homes so the parents could work. So without his mom being there ,him and his brother were always up to no good. Broke my heart to hear him talk… needless to say there were the freight trains. Off to Syracuse and lord knows where. Tough in those days… the little hobo……he was quite a guy. Took me along time to appreciate, understand his life and him…….linda colangelo
@@lindacolangelo7525 Thanks Linda ! "a little hobo" LOL ! I'm picturing Charlie Chaplin.. It sounds like freedom to me, but yes those were very tough times. What a horrible experience for kids to be stuck in an orphanage, and the guilt their parents must have felt. They did what they thought was best for their kids, and you'd hope no one would ever have to make that decision. I'm glad you got to know him better , through understanding and a newly found respect. Thanks for sharing !
Lol, I live on Schuyler St. SO gonna miss my trains when I move soon!
@@lisabishop6266 I would miss that too. Just 3 years ago, I had a house next to the old Erie Railroad and had a couple freight trans go by a day. I'd go out front and wave to the engineers like a little kid ....and they'd give me a wave and toot of the horn in return. I really miss that. Are you staying in Utica ?
I live in Milton Florida outside of Pensacola near the Alabama border. My Dad was Air Force at Griffiss and I graduated Rome Free Academy class of 85. I attended Mohawk Valley CC and Utica College. It was good to see the streets of Utica and New Hartford again, especially the street rails. Really enjoyed the video.
I’m also a UC grad, ‘82. Glad you liked the video & thanks for commenting!
I always love these street running videos. Sometimes it makes me miss the North Country - went to college in Potsdam (drank some Matts and Gennie Cream ale back in the day), now watching from snowy Colorado.
Poor Paul!!! Most of us Uticans don't drink their beers lol. This was literally shot right outside my front door. My cats n grandbabies love it when the guys toot the horn for them 😂oh yea, Matt's doesn't make gennie, unless I have missed something in the last 40 yrs.
Watching from Pantego Texas. I used to live in Skaneateles (in the last few years of the Skaneateles Short Line), and toured the Utica Club Brewery when I was a grade schooler. I have enjoyed watching trains since my youth when Dad and I would chase them together. I sooo remember shoveling upstate lake-effect snow in teen-degrees!! Blessings and Joy from Pantego!! 😊❤
Did the brewery still run the trolley on the same tracks you just watched? I moved here in 78 and they had it then for the tours, don't remember why or when they stopped it, but it was the best pt of the tour, besides free soda 😂
@Lisa Bishop , I wish I could remember clearly. Your mentioning this brought vague memories of riding a trolly "thereabouts," and yes the sodas were a welcome treat! Five decades later (I was in elementary school), I mostly have impressions of a big, exciting, fun (rare) field-trip that I knew to be the Utica Club Brewery more than specific images. I am trying to remember snippets like these of my life to look back and enjoy the re-living of them (I have recalled a LOT of things I had not thought of in decades, and it's generally pleasant).
Rome NY. I could hear a different train whistle toot recently! That must be why. Thank you for another fascinating video, and you and Witold stay well!
Lol, you can't here the train in Rome, it runs right past the brewery. You are hearing the main line Amtrak n frieght trains use.
Watching from Ayr in Scotland. Just love your trains in the USA how they serve such a variety of customers in out of the way places. Our freight consists solely of block trains i.e. carrying only one commodity from one point to another no dropping off or picking up, totally unheard of. Thanks to people like you we can appreciate how a real railway operates. Please keep posting your videos. Fantastic.
I assume Britain used to be same as us in this.
@@williamdodd8660 it was the same concept which gradually decreased and now no longer exists. Probably the advent of road transport and ultimately motorways etc together with much shorter distances to cover made the drop off pick up system no longer viable.
Glad to get nice feedback from Scotland! Looked up Ayr on Wikipedia; I know the train crews enjoy reading the comments, especially those from overseas. I expect to get a few more winter videos, hopefully with a bit more snow on the ground. Snowfall this winter hasn’t been very much, although we’ve had many below zero (F) days.
@@railroadingrambler218 thanks for your comments. I know it must be hard for you at times waiting for hours on end in the cold and snow to get a 5 or 10 min shot of a train but we love them and appreciate what you do. You have to love trains and that's what people like us do. Thanks again
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That's what I miss about driving around in the north east seeing things like this... thanks for sharing
Thanks for the ride! my father-in-law worked for the RR on all these local roads and I once drove taxi so it was a nice visit to my past. Thanks
It is always interesting when a train runs through the city in the middle of the street. A great train line.
Very beautiful video.👍👍👍🎥👍👍😊
Watching from England. I've always said the Brits invented the railways, but the Americans perfected it, especially when it comes to the profitability of freight. It is a joy to see street running like this♥️
America was really built on the railways. Sadly they are not as cared for today and the European system is such a great way to travel
Britains railroads feel more civilized. Ours always seem to have a rough and ready character-very practical and efficient (from a business perspective) but they feel like a half-finished project.
It’s like my daddy used to say.
I especially enjoy your winter videos. Great job as always. From Rhode Island, thanks for posting.
Watching from Albuquerque, NM. Used to live in Frankfort and Ilion NY. LOVE Upstate NY! Miss it very much! 💗🤗🌹
Thank you for toughing it out in the cold snow. Watching from Hawthorne, California.
Another GREAT video, thank you ! I appreciate you inserting some historical perspective comments here and there, including the NYO & W. I really like the drone video you made too, when you slipped in historical photographs that correlated with the drone shots. Those photo's aren't easy to come by and I wish there were more of them ! I'd love to see a pic of the DL&W swing bridge on Schuyler St over the original Erie Canal.
Do any of those still exist???
@@lisabishop6266 Do any photo's exist, is that what you're asking ? If so........I hope so , but I've yet to see one.......meaning a pic of a swing bridge in the Utica area over the original Erie Canal.
Watching your wonderful documentation from East Putney, Vermont, where I can hear the distant rumble and horns of Vermont Rail when the wind is easterly.
It’s funny how 2651 reminds me of our British class 66 locos in sound, considering they were designed by EMD in America! I can definitely see the resemblance now as an eager transport enthusiast that loves power, speed and sound in vehicles!
Clearly I am also fascinated by the street running in Utica but probably also the way your trains operate in general. I like learning about history, to see how things used to be, what’s changed and what’s left of the old ways. So thank you from Oxfordshire, England for including that in your videos as well!
I am in Junction City Oregon and had an Uncle who worked for the Southern Pacific for 30 years as a conductor/breakman when they use to have a Passenger Train in the 50's. Love your vids.
Like how they did that little fun horn for ya at upper main st. That was great. Great video.
And then the lumber yard.
When Walter Rich was still alive and running the SusieQ, he hired me to do some consulting work to evaluate two things. One, he wanted to evaluate the feasibility of converting some of his engines to operate on natural gas along with the possibility of converting his truck fleet as well. The second project revolved around maintenance issues with his Hi-rail trucks. Later I did a project with NYSERDA to continue the CNG analysis and the feasibility of locating fueling facilities in Utica, Batavia, and Lockport…. I have to say that these were three of the most interesting projects I had the good fortune to be associates with. Sadly Mr. Rich passed away before we could finish the analysis! btw I am watching your videos from Binghamton New York.
I just love trains. I watch videos from all over the world. Watching from Southern California.
Watching from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
I lived on Warren Street when I was in college. Thanks for sharing, brings back some old memories.
Watching from Kansas - what an amazing video! Thank you so much for braving the cold weather and spending the day chasing this move. I've always loved the street running videos in Utica, but you've trumped those. Thanks again!
Thanks for commenting, glad you enjoyed the video! I expect to grab a few more street-running videos this winter, hopefully with a bit more snow on the ground.
There is a book titled Clear The Tracks by Joseph Bromley who was an engineer on the Utica division in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s about his experiences on the line between Utica and Binghamton. The book was published in the 1940’s I believe. It can be found on used book sites. Very interesting read by anyone who is interested in this line. I originally am from Greene and was a friend of the late Jim Bromley, Joseph’s grandson.
It’s an excellent book, thanks for mentioning it. Joe Bromley lived on Schuyler Street for a while.
@@railroadingrambler218 Keep up the great videos!
Thanks for the video of the 3040 being recovered from Sangerfield. Hope to see it back in service soon.
@@railroadingrambler218 He did ? The old phone directories show where he lived with his mom and then his wife Mamie has him listed on Washington St, off of Water St. After that he moved near Binghamton. When did he live on Schuyler St ?
It is excellent and my all time favorite RR book. I think there are still some Bromeley's living in Greene. Clear the Tracks gives great insight on what life was like in the late 1800's from Watertown , and all the way south to Binghamton. It's a very funny book too. I love Joe Bromley's sense of humor. There's a few landmarks mentioned that I wish I could place....actually many. One was the location of the gravel pits in Chapter 2 ( Joe said that it was about 2 miles from Utica) and the gravel pits , I believe were off of a spur in what's now known as Maynard. Since they met up with Black River Jack and "Hiki" during their trip back, it was defiantly on the U&BR live, but I'm not sure where. Another was the Grove Hotel in Binghamton, featuring Denny and the the infamous Utica Room. I wonder where that was ? ( not far from "The McKinney House" where the sparrows left their calling cards for Joe and Baldy. ) LOL ..........
Another great video of street running, and shortline railroading. From Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada.
Hi from Kenmore, NY. Well done!
Watching from Norway. I really enjoy your Street Running videos from Utica. I need to visit that town next time I´m in the US. Keep up the good work!
Its good to see that these rails are still in operation for revenue service. Thanks for the awesome video. Watching from Blacksville WV.
I hope NYSW repair and keep 3040. At least for us locals, it's a very iconic engine. Even some model railroaders and also the model railroad companies have created and sell models of engine 3040.
Info from the Internet (no guarantee of accuracy):
3040 is a GP-40 EMD that was built in May, 1970. It started it's service with the Atlantic & West Point Railroad. It was then bought by CSX and numbered 6652. It was then acquired by the NYS&W and renumbered 3040. It is still in operation and hauls freight between Utica and Sangerfield, NY.
Very cool!
Watching from Morrisville, NY.
All of my farm fertilize comes to Waterville by rail.
(Louis J Gale and Son)
Thanks!🇺🇸👍
I live in Akron New York and I have been rail fan since childhood, we were up in that area in October, at the Adarondack Railroad for a train ride , beautiful area.
Hello from Los Angeles. Excellent video. Thanks!
dig that crazy number board.
Nice narration on what, where and why is going on. Really good videos...... Keep up the good work.....
have a deep respect for anyone willing to stand in the cold and the snow for trains. been there; done that (in my youth).
Watching from New South Wales,Australia. I am quite a fan of shortline railroads in general,but I always seem to gravitate to this one when you post your excellent videos. Hope they repair 3040 soon and return her to duty! Cheers, Dave Craig !
Watching from Indianapolis, IN, originally from Geneseo, NY, went to Hamilton in Clinton, a hop skip jump from Utica. Home of Utica Club - Shultz & Dooley - beer.
Great video as usual. Thank you for going out on the cold. From York UK
Just watching from Ipswich in UK. I worked 16 years on the railway in the East Anglia region
Watching from Massena, retired CSX. Penn Central had track rights on old EL to get to New York Mill
Watching from Prescott Valley Arizona
Thanks for the effort you put in on these videos. Well done. Houston, TX
Thanks 4 this video !!! I haven’t been in Utica since 1991 & this reminds me of the times I’ve seen Susie Q switching up there !!! I’m back home in the Midwest around trains 🚂 24/7 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 !!!
Amazing clips! Never get tired of watching them come and go. It's mesmerizing.
Watching from Athol, Idaho up in the panhandle about 90 miles south of the Canada border. BNSF runs thru this area with many trains each day. Haul a lot of grain, coal and oil. Really enjoyed your video. It's great!
Thanks for commenting!
Excellent train video!
Excellent and informative video as always... For your info CSX 2651 a GP38-2 was built for the Clinchfield RR in 1978, as their #6000 then to Seaboard as #6000 and finally to CSX as 2651.. Thanks for the fine video..
Thanks for the scoop on 2651, Jay.
Watching from Mesa AZ it's a balmy 68 degrees here today . love the Schuyler street shots
Watching from Cazenovia, NY. Not many folks with rail, or rail history knowledge around these days. Many thanks! 🚂
I am watching from Saco ME - but long ago I rode the South Shore Line passenger train down the street in East Chicago, Michigan City, and South Bend IN - but they also ran electric-powered freights down the first two streets! I also rode the North Shore Line into Milwaukee over the street.
There's something I find cool about seeing large trains go down narrow residential city streets. I'm watching from Grays Harbor county near Aberdeen Washington where there was also some residential areas with tracks in the middle of the street. Small town Shelton 30 miles away had tracks similarly placed that enabled logging trains neighborhood and mill access where their sidings were. Larger city Tacoma's industrial areas were/are also like that. I always thought it interesting (especially after a railroader told me this) that even with slow 10 mph speed limits and all eyeballs actively scanning the area, the railroad has/had more accidents/incidents on some of these residential stretch's of their lines then they typically do on most mainlines comparatively speaking. Anyway I enjoyed looking at your home area and the train action there through your excellent video!!
Thanks for your very interesting comment!
Nice job! Thanks for posting! - Rick Ferencik
Fascinating footage! Got a glimpse of 2651 Friday afternoon crossing Oneida St at the Chadwicks border and again in Washington Mills crossing. Hope to see 3040 back on the rails soon.
Nice story to go along with the video. Love the history of our railroads.
Watching from Cape Cod MA. Great video,appreciate the history review too!
GREAT STUFF !! I really love the susquehanna and street running. Watching from Port Chester NY Westchester County
I’ve never seen a train roll down a street like this. Super cool and great job on video!!!
Great job as always, especially the history of the rails being operated on. Northeast Ohio
Agreed!
Cool, I liked hearing the engine revving
Watching from Sauquoit NY. Those trains have been running by my house for years
Get well soon, #3040. It ain't the same without you. Southeast Tennessee.
I am watching from Saint John New Brunswick where the 3 loads came from. great history lesson and video. stay safe.
Great video, thanks for posting. Aston Pa.
Awesome video. Very informative. Very detailed.
A big thumbs up to all involved in this creative bit of civil planning and engineering.
Omg, you were right outside my apt!! Wish I had known, I would have brought out some coffee, tea or beer for ya! And btw, this is the 3rd video of my streets tracks I have seen, and I LOVE yours cause you actually tell ppl what they are seeing! Good job guy!!! Also, someone asked if the trains ever derailed here. Maybe you could research how kids got a car started in the New Hartford area I think it was, got scared when it started moving, jumped "ship" and it ran into the old train at the Children's Museum by the main station. What a mess that was!!
Fabulous channel!
Thank s for sharing this video. I'm a fan of street running and the NYSW. I'm watching from Madison, WI. I grew up in the lower Hudson Valley where there also are a few remnants of the NYOW, and traveled between Binghamton and Syracuse during my college years at Univ of Rochester.
Watching from Marshfield, VT near the abandoned ROW of the long defunct (1957) Barre & Chelsea RR. Lived a year and a half on Schuyler St in the late seventies while a student at Riverside School of Aeronautics. Between the trains, FX Matt brewery, Dick Smith's pub, and Pasquale's Pizza, what more could you want? Oh, and not to forget the Polish Army Association social club and dance hall on one of the side streets. We lived at 1119 Schuyler, and our landlord, "Red" (?), had a little coffee shop around the corner that made the best breakfast sandwiches for cold winter mornings.
One night the E-W mainline was blocked by a derailment and an Amtrak train was diverted down Schuyler St. I was getting undressed for bed and looking out my second story window at the street below when the train came crawling down the street and stopped for a parked car with one of those tall over-under coaches right outside my window. Passengers in their seats and I in my skivies were suddenly staring at each other from 30 feet away. Ya just never know!
Love your videos! Keep 'em coming.
What years about did you live on Schuyler Street? Thanks for posting your very interesting remarks.
@@railroadingrambler218 Hi! It was late '76 to early '78, with the exception of a couple months in '77 when I lived in my van at Oswego County Airport in Fulton. Short term flight instructor job, saving up for school. I think back then the line was complete down to Binghamton. That was Conrail days, although some of the rolling stock was still wearing PC colors. There were some pretty long trains, though I don't remember seeing any doubleheaded. The house used to shake on its foundation.
That's a great story! Would never happen now unfortunately! Instead train would sit for hours on end.
Dick Smiths and Pasquale's are both still open. So is the brewery ,but I don't like most of their beers, the sodas though are great! I also live on Schuyler, between Court and Warren Sts. The " bumblebee" building as I call it since it's black and yellow, is a few places down from me. SO gonna miss my trains when I move soon :(
Glad to see another video about Schuyler St. I live in the central part of California
Nice video! I like the winter scenes. Here on the east end of long island we have temps in the twenties, up to the low 40's. You folks are a little colder than us. Hope Witold is O.K.
Greetings from Dixon MO. Great video and narration.
hello from Arizona...watching this great video, i had to put my heavy robe on because i got cold!! please keep posting your very enjoyable videos
That was some great footage! Watching from Roxbury Township, NJ.
I love these street running videos. This engine sounds very similar to EMD G26 that we have in Croatia.
Pretty sure you’re the first from Croatia to comment on my channel, welcome!
Oh, wow! Thank you! 😄
Interesting looking number boards on the 2651. Nashville, TN.
Thanks for another interesting video on a snowy day. I trust Witold has retreated to a warm bed for the afternoon!
He’s a cold-weather dog too (we walked a little over 2 miles this morning when it was 7 below, no issues whatsoever). Sometimes, it’s tough to have him by my side trackside, especially on Schuyler Street. He’ll be on another video soon enough, I’m sure!
Watching From Alexandria, La --- Thx for the video.
As always, love the videos. Live from Long Island, NY
I’m watching from Fairport NY. Very nice video!
Watching from Ocala Florida
Enjoy your videos
Another great video! My favorite type of Railroading! Watching from Medina Ohio!
Great video . Thanks from N.J.
I enjoyed the video and the narration was good. It is interesting that some trackage of the O&W is still in use.Watching from Naperville IL.
Watching from AZ, great job following the train
Enjoyed the video, Auburn Hills, Michigan
Love your videos! I am a transplanted New Englander now in S. Florida
Watching from Whittier, California US. Enjoy these videos.
Very nice video!
Excellent and informative video. Watching from Kamloops BC.
Great video. When I was a little girl, my dad and mom almost bought a farm in up state New York. Looks like you get a lot of snow. On Wednesday in Lancaster, Ohio, our temperature was 2 degrees. I don't know how you stand out in the cold and film, but I'm glad you do. Has there ever being an accident or a train derailment in town? That would be awful. Thank you for your wonderful videos. I really look forward to seeing them. Stay warm and safe.
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I think Upstate New York gets the most snow of any place in the country-don’t quote me on this.
I have lived here since '78 and the only accident I know of from this part of the line was like 4-5 yrs ago, some kids got into a caboose and somehow got it rolling, jumped off scared to death and it actually hit nothing until it got to the main Utica station, where it did major damage to a very old train car outside the children's museum.
Thank you for a very informative video, You do good work.
Nice Video! 👍 Watching from Washington Michigan.
Nice video and catch.
Watching from Pittsburgh nice video
Watching from Yuma, AZ right near the Colorado River. New subscriber. 🙂👍🏼
Wow that was close good driving on the trains part
I like the way you film, it feels like I'm standing there, too!
Very nice video! 👍
Commentary on video is very good 👍
Great documentary brother 👏