Water Cooling A PlayStation 3
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- I'm Finally Getting To Water cool My PS3!
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Watercooled ps3 before gta 6
there was one way back then also.
lmao there was one before gta 5, i think it was a whole kit sold on a website too.
I'm a proud owner of a "frankie" Backwards Compatible PS3. The stock cooler is plenty enough, the OG problem was the chip getting too hot and the infamous "bump gate" stuff. Had the tokin caps replaced along with thermal pads and paste. It's truly a work of art. Yours is too however and I wonder if a PS3 could function in that baby oil" solution PC people use. Delidded CPU and GPU of course.
You should learn to solder, it’ll save you money. (If you don’t mess up)
I've got to get the stuff for microsoldering and reworking, especially because it's becoming my job!
Would you ever sell a water cooling PS3? I'm interested@@WestinEast
Best learning method is make a lot of practice also with mistakes 😂
it costs thousands in equipment to do a frankie mod but I agree
Cooling isn't really an issue with the PS3 and even the 360, the original cooling system is plenty good. The problem with these consoles was the bump gate issue on the GPU chips. The best fix is to get the GPU Chip replaced with a known working replacement that doesn't suffer from Bump Gate, a later revision of the GPU Chips. But as for water cooling mod. What I don't like is they're external. I would like to see an internal cooling mod perhaps using a custom Vapour Chamber instead, along with the big fan to cool the rest of the components. Or just to stick with OEM, keep it at default clocks and replace the thermal paste and the thermal pads.
Fair enough, I just really wanted to water cool it!
Would love to see a vapor or vacuum cooled console
Bumpgate shouldnt be issue on this watercooled ps3
Sure, but even by replacing the RSX with a 40nm, for example, it'll still fail over time due to thermal degradation yet again, which is a problem with all sorts of electronics that rely on silicon chips. Reducing the 100% load temperatures and temperature delta (the difference between the lowest and highest temp recorded during power-on time) by water-cooling the system is the best thing you can do for it to last a long time, and can make a difference.
The bump gate issue was fixed on his ps3 as he replaced his gpu with a 40nm RSX from the 90nm so there are no concerns there, however the main concerns are going to now be the numerous other heat generating components inside the ps3 that were not considered during this build. You see the Cell and RSX are both very powerful chips and both have VRM modules which produce a lot of heat, they relied on the shielding as a heatsink and the internal fan to keep it cool, the issue now is because that internal fan is gone those things will just start becoming hot, reducing their lifespan, but that won’t be what goes out first. The psu will be what goes out first, the psu inside the ps3 heavily relies on continuous airflow and because he’s basically cut off all airflow from the psu internally the psu is going to burn itself up, so he will have to externalize that psu if he wants this to work long term, along with coming up with a solution for keeping the various other components on the ps3 motherboard cooled since their main cooling component was removed.
Drawing lines between King tiger was really good!!, nice video man i liked it.
i love PS3 and i´m working on watercooling mine, your video is awesome, you got a new suscriber. keep the wood work!!!!
I very much worry about the fact that the fan has been removed, because you left the psu in it it will just cook itself, then there is the Cell and RSX VRM, Bluray drive IC, EEGS (PS2 Chip), and the Southbridge, all of which generate heat and all of which are no longer getting any kind of cooling whatsoever. The PSU would be the first to go though as without cooling it can run very very hot and even hot enough to burn itself out in some cases. This is why when some people watercool ps3s they will externalize the psu and make it all custom so that it has proper cooling. Just some notes to add that you can work on to make sure this console doesn’t die as right now those are some concerning notes you need to be aware of now that the airflow pattern and thermal design pattern has changed. Those tiny little fans won’t do anything at all
Welp, the only way that could be remedied is if the guy makes a larger custom enclosure for the PS3 motherboard where either a custom AIO solution can be done, or place fans where needed (PSU/Southbridge) and additional water blocks on the EEGS.
@@Ordi_Ghost well really the only way that could be remedied would be to add a fan to the shell to cool those components, but then at that point just leave the fan in the console. Plus it is a Frankenstein with a 40nm RSX which is super reliable. Unfortunately now the main concern is going to be other things that aren’t being cooled, an AIO wouldn’t really solve this issue as you would have to cut the RF shield and then make a ton more modifications to the shell and at that point you would be better off putting it in a PC case. I’ve seen people do custom water cooling builds and they will put holes in the shell and add custom designs with fans so that it isn’t as ugly from the outside with holes showing, they do a lot of metal fabrication work and 3d printing, that way it gets proper airflow but still has some cool aesthetic behind it but they also still externalize the psu nearly every time they water cool it as it is the third hottest component in a BC ps3 that needs proper cooling. If you take the top cover off of a BC model and run it under a load and feel the metal shield on the PSU you will see what I mean by how hot it runs, it gets too hot to the touch after just 5 minutes or so.
Also another note on the “do not overclock the 90nm RSX as it will cook the power supply” this is absolutely false, it will not cook the power supply at all, in fact I know people who have put 90nm RSXs higher than the Evilnat overclock and it does not blow the PSU, the PS3 under a heavy load only consumes roughly 220w maxed out from my testing, the psu is rated for much higher than that, you won’t burn it out, in your case you will as you have removed all cooling from it. But it is absolutely fine to overclock the 90nm RSX as long as you have webman set up to 68c max, remember the bumpgate defect only happens if the RSX stays above 70c for prolonged periods of time and over multiple thermal cycles, if you have the RSX at let’s say 64c it’s not going to die unless it’s already had a defect or bumpgate issue. I’ve even overclocked ps3s and I can promise you will not burn out your power supply doing this, if you do it is because your power supply was already on its way out. The max power output I achieved with an overclocked 90nm RSX was 225w, not near the max power output of the 226 or ZSSR Psu that these BC models came with.
The launch ps3's thermals aren't "naturally bad" by any means as far as i understand. My CECHA01 was super loud until I cleaned it out and replaced the thermal paste. After doing that, it was only slightly louder than my slim, even under stress. Not to say that the 90nm gpu isn't horrible inefficient and unreliable though. If it weren't so expensive I would definitely Frankenstein my ps3.
Watercooling will extend its life a little, but it is not a solution. It will still die, the defect is between the DIE and the chip's PCB, it is humanly impossible to correct, the best thing you can do is exchange the chip for a later revision, manufactured in a smaller lithography process, to have time to reasonable useful life (frankenstation 3), or wait until an Asian genius creates an interposer for the super slim PS3 chip.
Personally, I gave up on saving my console (I have technical knowledge of reballing, and equipment) but I decided that the best thing for me is to mount an ITX PC or laptop card inside the fat PS3 case, and run it through emulation. PS3 emulation is advancing rapidly, and with it, there are the benefits of emulation, such as savestates, upscaling, stable framerate, lower noise and heat. I believe I was the first guy to put a complete PC inside the case of an xbox classic, as a sleeper, including ATX power supply and graphics card, and it is still working today as an HTPC in the room (unfortunately the xbox classic emulation was abandoned and recently resumed).
@@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao yeah emulation is a solution but its nothing like having the real thing. Also, I had it frankenstiened (I said it in the video) by my friend @ConsoleKingRepair! He has a channel and you can get his service on eBay, its the best price I can find :)
It will die? When? My Fat PS3 is from 2007 and here we are, in 2024, still working just fine.
@@CeceliPS3 Take the opportunity to buy a lottery ticket. And give some comfort to the other millions around the world who lost their consoles shortly after the warranty expired.
@@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao I must be on a different universe then because here I see many people with PS3s that just work in 2024. Another argument is that if PS3s are dying left and right, they wouldn't be getting more expensive. They work. People are buying. And they're playing just fine, after all these years. If PS3s were dying, no one would want to buy them.
@@CeceliPS3 I think you forgot to take your schizophrenia medication. Good morning.
The original fan pulls in fresh air from bellow the ps3 and through routes in the aluminum clampshell from the top of the ps3. The psu especially can get very toasty depending on what version you have due to its efficiency. I would make sure to pull air through the exhaust to keep some cool air making it through the ps3. You could also put an intake where the memory card reader is in front of the psu with some noctua fans aswell but thats probably overkill on this whole thing already.
@@jet613 I put those 2 40mm noctua fans blowing into the exhaust on the rear, and while this is enough to keep it from exploding even in ps2 mode (since the emotion engine no longer has direct cooling). However, it's clear that this is the biggest oversight on my part. One thing I was going to do but never did was cut a hole in the bottom and put a thin fan on the inside of the chassis to blow air directly in/onto the clamshell. I also have to cool the power supply somehow because I'm sure that it's going to die if I'm not careful - the plastic case was melted when I got it and I have half a mind to believe it was due to this PSU. Thank you for your comment and thanks for watching!
Epic video brother !!! Heck yeah man! I love watercooling stuff like this. Great job !! ❤🤠
Very cool video, thanks! :)
Omg you've made a frankstain PS3 !!! this is cool, however i own an slim version in most cases it's doing it's job fine considering that i don't play that much of a video game these days, maybe some Resistance and some games i didn't finish at that era but, nothing more than that so, yeah but this is cool these fat PS3s need alot of cooling if u wanna play for a long period of time
bro you are legendary
This was a legit upgrade! Well done!
It seems like a power supply upgrade is the next best mod. A 500W pico power supply with an external brick would be ideal. That way you can also make a some 3D printed mount, a custom pcb to make it plug and play, extra plugs to power additional fans, and remove the power supply from the radiators.
Oh im not sure, I think I have the ultimate ps3 👀🍿😎
wow u truly do have the ultimate ps3
Would overclocking on the 65nm be fine ?I believe the 2000 series(slim) ps3 have this also also delied the ps3 so temps or fine
@@frosty212 as long as it's not the 90nm it should be fine!
overkill 100
That's kinda the point tho
Damn this is bad ass bro!
Impressive work friend, i liquid cooled my 60GB PS3 back in 2011 it's still going strong I have a small video on my channel , if you would like to see , i also have a Frankenstein 60gb it's just stock works great
crazy vid keep it up
2 things you could do if you want to make it slightly more ultimate is putting a bd drive with two laser lenses (best and most reliable bd drive) and also making sure you have the most efficient psu your model supports . It should be a bit cooler. Other than that youre already set, i really want to see its temps on ps2 games since its the hardest thing for a bc ps3
Honestly the bluray thing sounds cool, I still haven't fixed the issue of it not sptting out and receiving disks properly that I covered it my first video on the ps3
did you remove the grey thing over the cpu and gpu (i think it's called IHS) ?
@@Llink4n Yeah, the guy who did the Frankenstein GPU swap delided them for me
@@WestinEast ok i think i’ll give a try caus omg the fan is loud
What did you use as a fan hub ?
@@Llink4n I can't remember, but just about any generic one on amazon will work as long as it has a pwm header for control
@@WestinEast ok Thank you
Impressive work.
I'll share bro 🔥
beautiful video man, kept me watching for long and i was shook ur only on 700 subs. Keep it up and you're going to make it, trust me
You still forgot to replace the caps, you also didnt get enough air flow so your VRM for Cell and RSX will cook up and also no airflow for IC and syscon, at least get some aluminum heatsinks for VRM and other compoments.
OH YEAH, well I skipped over the 4th grade because my 3rd grade teachers thought I was a very "gifted" child 🧐. (in reality there was a teacher shortage in the town)
are you using NVIDIA's eye tracking thing?
Oh my god I thought I was going schitzo but I see it now lmao
It’s awesome that despite all the tribulations, you got it all working! I can only imagine how glorious and liberating it felt!
Did u read the post made by a ps3 developer saying not to use a ssd?
@@Sonic-ky4xh there are a few reasons not to use one, but there are also plenty of reasons to just go for it. While it's probably not optimal or long term - this is the ultimate ps3
You can do over lock now with no problems
@@Noob_laieb yeah a lot more has come out regarding overclocking, definitely interested in making a video about it!
Is there an actual advantage to upgrading between those ssd yk because of the ps3 speeds?
Well, kinda. The first Kingston one was used and awful. It didn't have a d ram cache on the drive meaning it would stutter and slow down and die quicker. However the 870 evo was a bit overkill - however that was kinda the point :)
siendo externo tiene mas ventajas por que cuando quieres pasar un juego los isos se pasan mas rapido
slightly better loading speeds, don't expect miracles
Who’s the best company or person to fix the red light? (Original ps3 w memory card slots)
@@meansled You have to determine the cause to answer that - Most likely it's a scenario where the GPU is cooked and therefore you have to have the procedure done to swap the old rsx with a new one from a newer slim PlayStation, and I paid about $400 for that. But there is a million reasons why it happens, so as a regular person who isn't trying to do an insanely expensive project, just get a PS3 slim for like 100 bucks off eBay and it'll last forever because it has effectively none of these problems
@@WestinEast I do have a few slims and one super slim... but I'd like to recover the photos and game save files off this particular ps3.. it has been down since 2010.is there a way to extract those files? it doesn't matter the cost really, I get it, it takes time to fix.
this is the SSD i got for my ps3 :
Western Digital 1TB WD Blue SA510 SATA Internal Solid State Drive SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, 2.5"/7mm, Up to 560 MB/s - WDS100T3B0A
does it have dram?
I'm having texture popin problems
@@JohnDuraSSB yeah, unfortunately the SSD spreadsheet calls this one garbage and according to the specs it is. No dram, 1 core, 2 channel, and slow write speeds. The write and read speeds aren't an issue since the obvious sata data cap but eventually getting an SSD with a dram cache (it's actually super hard in 2024) would be ideal.
I have a ps3 would be cool to get another like that
we got watercoold ps3 before gta 6
we got watercooled ps3 before gta 5
@@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 nah
This is sick
OK, you’re gonna make the ultimate PS3 that’s good this is gonna be a good video
Great video! Dude…how about a video showcasing a remote play option for PS3 using parsec?
Has the freezing issue been resolved?
Yeah!
So um how does it perform?
@@angelovercetti67 pretty good, although it turns out overclocking has become much more in depth recently and I most likely can push it further. But even just the small overclock means games run at 60 or 30 without dropping except for in a few instances. Also, both the CPU and GPU stay under 100f or around 33c the entire time while gaming. Thanks for watching!
sometime need to reball the gpu and cpu specially fat model....
YESSIR!
whats up with the awful interlacing on the whole video
@@Jupiters1337 I don't know, maybe some editing artifacts, I messed with my export settings a lot so that might've done it
Bro😂
I used water to cool mine down then my fish started twitching and died
Nice Vid
Good job
My excoworker and hus roommate watercooled his ps3. We're talking back in 2011. A lot of diy parts. It worked but it looked like a disaster.
Sheesh I can't imagine what monstrosity he must've made in 20111.
The issues with the GPU is with the capacitors
I needed something like this for mine the thing kept switching itself of after 20-30 mins of playing then a disk got stuck in it and i binned it
you need not need a PSU at all LMAOOO
watercool a ps4
man!! the ps3 does not support dram catch!!! learn that the ssd does not matter!!!! if the gpu an the cpu have heating issues the hard drive does not matter!!!
This wont help you, PS3 will die eventually. I spent many times replacing themal paste every month and putting ps3 next to AC and it eventually died, its better to emulate these games or get Slim version that is from 2010+. I recommend not play games that stress RSX and CELL cpu.
If you didn't do an RSX swap that is almost 100% what killed it. But yeah, I'm sure it'll die one day no matter what happens
I don't think you watched the video
@@backlashD i did watch it and i cried when realized another og ps3 going to die
@@krowan477the reason yours likely died is due to the bumpgate defect of the 90nm RSX, he has a 40nm RSX, but unfortunately the design flaw that was missed that I stated in another comment is that because he removed the internal fan he is essentially going to cook the other heat generating components inside. The VRMs get very hot as the Cell and RSX are very power hungry and without cooling they can get quite hot and their lifespan reduces significantly, the PSU heavily relies on passive airflow to keep cool so that will die out quickly as well unless externalized. Now to remedy this he could make the PSU external, add fans to the top side for the heat generating components like the BD IC, then add some way to cool the southbridge, EEGS, and VRMs as those can also get warm, especially without any airflow
rpcs3
@JElectronica el tambien hizo un ps3 modeado pero le quedo mucho mejor
Wow, epic video. Seriously impressive. Something you can also do is add chrome “feet” to the bottom so even less heat accumulates at the base. Google “4 Sets High-End HiFi Aluminum Speaker Feet” You can super glue them to the bottom and it doesn’t ascetically alter the look. It actually looks stock. Just an idea. Great video, cheers!
Edit: I used a metal to plastic special epoxy to glue them