It was over by the time anyone got on scene. These guys do their best and they put their lives on the line for people they don’t even know. It’s amazing. And I live at the Jersey Shore so I know we have some good dudes here who are volunteers and do a phenomenal job. I appreciate the hell out of every firefighter. NJ, PA. Doesn’t matter.
The two biggest issues I saw were breaking out the bottom window and not the top as well, and creating flow paths because people keep forgetting VEIS, vent, enter, ISOLATE, search. Isolating the space by getting in and closing the door, stops the flow path problem, clears smoke to allow for a better search and a more survivable space.
@@harrisonnewman8140 breaking a window gives you an inlet for air without and exit point your just introducing oxygen into the fire creating rapid growth breaking windows can be effective but only if the smoke/air inside the structure can exhaust out and opening on the roof.
@@harrisonnewman8140 The point of the "V" in VES is to ventilate, to get in cool clean air and release hot air and smoke. Unless you have been in a fire is hard to understand how hot is is in there.
I saw that metal roof and got really worried. Just a little bit of moisture on that metal and it gets slicker than snot on a brass doorknob. Get those guys off it once primary is done and just go defensive. ‘By the way, you volunteer departments that are well funded are fortunate. I’ve served with well funded ones and ones that barely get by. It’s so much better when the community supports you.
Such an awesome video and highly competent crew! You guys did your best on this one. Seeing your content makes me miss running with a department and I would do anything to ride on the back step again. Keep up the good work!
With all the money it took to build that home, you would think they could have put sprinklers in it. I don't know why all these people with huge houses and tons of money do not do that. Insurance policies should make anyone with a two story dwelling install sprinkler systems as part of the cost of building the house. As for older homes, its a risk we all take.
You can’t see shit in that house, even on the upper floor, scary as fuck. Thank god noone was inside - imagine inhaling this amount of that crap into your lungs.
I don’t hear fire/smoke alarms going off in the house. It’s a newer house, so it should have working alarms on all floors, so you should hear one in or near the room the firefighter first entered. Thank you firefighters for your hard work and for running INTO burning buildings to search for occupants. God bless you all.
@@judis.1810 Rapid Intervention Team. Its a crew that will serve as a stand-by rescue team for personnel and be available for the immediate search and rescue of any injured, missing, unaccounted for fire fighters.
You forgot the I, VEIS- Vent, Enter, Isolate, and search, isolating it will hopeful delay the fire spread and stop the flow path and make the space more survivable for anyone inside. Isolating it would be like closing the door to the room when you get in or something like that
The only issue I have is it appears you guys secured a hydrant and for some reason opted not to hit the main fire with the deck gun then move to handlines. Maybe I missed something but could I get the rationale for that decision?
It was really a manpower issue at the time. Splitting the engine crew to search left 2 guys for fire attack and we wanted to be able to have lines in position to support the search. We also run 2" attack lines with 1" SBs, so we get pretty good fire flow out of them.
for any US/Canada firefighter - thoughts on metal roofs? Seems like they would be more slippery, harder to vent and even hold heat in the structure (but I guess I am not sure how thick they are).
Metal roofs retain a lot more heat, making interior temperatures much higher. You are correct that they become very slippery, especially in lower temperatures and usually require a circular power saw rather than a chain saw.
In wildland fire areas, metal roofs provide a lot of protection against floating embers. We have replaced almost all our composite roofs with metal at our ranch. Took many years but our insurance company was very plea$ed.
i have opened many, a good saw goes right through them no problem. They do get slippery, and ice and snow will slide off at times on people below. Never noticed more heat inside, all good fires are hot,
At About The 10 Min. Mark, Just Let Her Burn, Save The Basement!!! Not Enough Manpower, And Equipment. It Was As Lost Cause When You Pulled Up!!! Good Job, With What You Had!!! Stay Safe Guys!!! Later
The comments here are despicable and deplorable. You know what you signed up for, you made an oath, and you swore to serve and protect lives at risk. Risk whatever it takes to save a life. VES is NOT a dangerous task and it saves lives. This department is awesome and their community is better off with them there. If you don’t want to do the job that you signed up for that is inherently risky, turn in your turnouts. And before any European’s come in here and say we are dangerous or behind on things, just don’t. Different countries, different tactics, and different culture and construction. This is America, I don’t give a damn how your volunteer company in Germany does things.
I like my Australian firefighting training in structures, we do everything in pairs for obvious reasons and always enter with a fully charged line, even its through windows we know that's there, ready if we need it.... I got chills watching you guys going in alone & no line, one day its going to be your undoing... yep I get the time thing but you and the victim might need 4 hands & shower to get out alive...
As long as you use a TIC and sound the floor, it's a viable tactic. Risk a lot to save a lot. A fully charged line is better off being used on the fire underneath them. VES is a quick and dirty search, you're not hanging out in the room.
We do too. This is a VFD. More help is a ways out. If there is a person in the structure, what would you do? VFD's in the US outnumber career depts 3 to 1. My city responds 4 engines, 2 trucks, 1 EMS, 2 BC on any structure fire report. It is a different world.
@@rdpmedia4606 STANDARDS IS NOTHING BUT A WORD IF ITS YOUR HOME YOU DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE SAFETY N SECURITY OF YOUR HOME DO NOT WAIT FOR A REGULATION USE YOUR BRAIN AND APPLY
The whole fuckin house was engulfed before the got there except the the second floor, which was only mostly involved. That was a lost home before arriving.
I have a question , why did they call the first floor and second floor divisions .It doesn't make sense at all . And was there any children trapped it did not say.
@@JasonWilliams-h9o Only if you use that mumbo jumbo to sound cool... SMH. Most of that is just made up by guys sitting behind desks... The overall theory is good, but there's a lot of nonsense too.
@@SndyOr Son, twenty years ago nobody used "division". the VAST majority of buildings we respond two are one and two story buildings. Pretty hard to confuse 1st floor, 2nd floor, basement... A,B,C,D are used because you can't always tell what direction a side is. I've only been doing this for over 40 years.
@@ffjsb I am a woman and not a FF but I know plenty of them and things are different from 20 years ago. It also matters whether you are rural or in a city. More people are building Tri Level homes with basements now so calling it a Division 1 takes the guesswork out of hearing on a radio, 1st floor as opposed to main floor or the living area, nobody has to make guesswork out of what A FF might be saying in a chaotic situation. An example is, People call the lights in an intersection a Red light. The proper name is Traffic Control lights. I've also heard people call it the Signal. So I think its just a way to make a strict Clarification. Thank you for your service, I mean no disrespect
Any vapor (gas, wood, plastics, atmosphere, heated water from fire hose) will rapidly fill the interior space after the first room reaches flash temp. You can't add any pressure in the direction of the victim during search.
@@ForestNinjaZero Due to the architecture, things are very different in the UK. External walls are solid and hollow internal walls do not extend between floors or into the roofspace. Both during any rescue and an interior attack, high pressure jets are used to deal with fire emerging from windows. Water is mainly used to prevent fir from entering the loft via any overhangs. Then bounced off ceilings to extinguish the fire below. The water vapor and hot gasses exit through the window where the water enters. Water is never pumped in horizontally for all the reasons that you mentioned. Almost all domestic fires are confined to one room and flashover is extremely rare. Back in the 1960's, a restaurant in London was was attended after closure due to a smell of smoke outside. 2 firefighters entered, but their was no apparent fire. The kitchens were in the basement and a commercial non thermostatic fryer had been left on. As the basement door was opened and air entered. the whole lot flashed, blowing out every window in the building. People reported object being propelled to the opposite side of the road. Sadly, the objects were the 2 firefighters and neither of them survived. It made headline news all over the UK for weeks and our queen offered her condolences. to the London fire brigade and the victims families. It is still considered to be one of the worst single domestic incidents since WW2. Needless to say, Grenfell tower was a great tragedy and was a national disgrace due to blatant disregard of building regulations. the report exceeded 1,000 pages.
@@wilsjane I understand the methods, we call that process V.E.S. in the U.S, but you can't ignore the mass ratio of furnishings and wall/frame materials to internal area. When anything is burning, the interior space pressurizes, even after windows have burned (or have been smashed by firefighters for ventilation). Any attempt to extinguish, while firefighters are unaware of the victim's position/condition involves risk of acceleration within the victim's breathable space. For this reason, firefighters will search for cool paths and rapidly search safe areas, prior to application of water, then return for line setup.
@@ForestNinjaZero It clearly shows the fire mass difference between us and the US. Apart from the lower spread, our internal wall boards are gypsum which breaks down to water during the first 30 minutes. Furnishings sold during the last 4 decades are required to be fire retardant, so in towns and cities the fire is knocked down within minutes. The guy outside is both experienced and trained, he is never a rookie. He also has DIRECT radio contact with any rescue crew, so he would stop the moment any hot gasses were reported. Another difference is that every crew member has a specific task before arrival, so no one is waiting for orders. The second arriving truck normally deals with hydrant connections. Needless to say commercial and industrial fires are very different. One of the biggest worries is in seaside areas with the sprawling Victorian hotels. Since their business is seasonal, they are often in a bad state of repair.
@@wilsjane Another major problem in the U.S. is inability to educate migrant populations in high-density residential zones around major cities. Spaces will tend to reach flash temp before arrival of firefighters, and even retardant materials will vaporize instantly after rolling vapor reaches those temperatures (in some cases more energetically and generate extremely poisonous vapor). High-rise and multi-family structures are designed to contain/vent toward the exterior, but it's difficult to predict behavior (arson, open doors, hoarding conditions, failure/refusal to notify fire officials, etc). Full flash tends to occur regardless, but they still need to search first!
During VES or VEIS, taking a line slows down advancement. A water can could've been taken and set at the entry point, but it's get in and get out for life safety. A charged line should've been pushed interior while VES was being carried out. Aside from a slow start, the effort was made. Glad no one was inside.
Tbf our firefighting techniques and equipment are much different than everyone else's. But our will power to protect the people in imminent danger is truly our drive. US firefighters like myself admittedly are behind in terms of research or illnesses. But who isn't?
@@Sewbuwu don’t get me wrong, I’m not slating the dedication. That is always to be admired. The apparent focus on tradition rather than development though is bonkers, and the lack of safety.
@CymruEmergencyResponder oh yeah without a doubt we favor tradition over anything. Improvements have been provided to us but fire fighters are too hard headed. That's how it is 🤷♂️
It was over by the time anyone got on scene. These guys do their best and they put their lives on the line for people they don’t even know. It’s amazing. And I live at the Jersey Shore so I know we have some good dudes here who are volunteers and do a phenomenal job. I appreciate the hell out of every firefighter. NJ, PA. Doesn’t matter.
I’m at the 2:46 mark and I don’t need any more convincing. This is a competent department who cares for its citizens and trains for its work.
Appreciate it!
I agree, nothing more they could do with the situation. Aggressive but realistic and tactical
People run out while you guys run in!! Thanks for all you do. God bless all of our firemen!!
The two biggest issues I saw were breaking out the bottom window and not the top as well, and creating flow paths because people keep forgetting VEIS, vent, enter, ISOLATE, search. Isolating the space by getting in and closing the door, stops the flow path problem, clears smoke to allow for a better search and a more survivable space.
Wouldn’t breaking out the bottom provide half the air flow…. Because of that whole flow path thing?
@@harrisonnewman8140 breaking a window gives you an inlet for air without and exit point your just introducing oxygen into the fire creating rapid growth breaking windows can be effective but only if the smoke/air inside the structure can exhaust out and opening on the roof.
@@harrisonnewman8140 The point of the "V" in VES is to ventilate, to get in cool clean air and release hot air and smoke. Unless you have been in a fire is hard to understand how hot is is in there.
VES not VEIS. Get in search and get out.
@@brandonlewis9531 no it’s veis
Those metal roofs make for a long drawn out fight we had old farm houses with new metal roofs and it was a different beast
Exactly! The bubble frame architecture mixed with metal roofs make for a fire hotter than anything you could ever imagine 😅
dang that wind! solid work!
Hell ya brother. Totally survivable spaces, good shit that you guys got in there.
I saw that metal roof and got really worried. Just a little bit of moisture on that metal and it gets slicker than snot on a brass doorknob. Get those guys off it once primary is done and just go defensive.
‘By the way, you volunteer departments that are well funded are fortunate. I’ve served with well funded ones and ones that barely get by. It’s so much better when the community supports you.
Such an awesome video and highly competent crew! You guys did your best on this one.
Seeing your content makes me miss running with a department and I would do anything to ride on the back step again. Keep up the good work!
Valiant effort by all the responding departments.
Such a beautiful home--so sad !!!
With all the money it took to build that home, you would think they could have put sprinklers in it. I don't know why all these people with huge houses and tons of money do not do that. Insurance policies should make anyone with a two story dwelling install sprinkler systems as part of the cost of building the house. As for older homes, its a risk we all take.
You can’t see shit in that house, even on the upper floor, scary as fuck. Thank god noone was inside - imagine inhaling this amount of that crap into your lungs.
If you’re in a fire you should try to get as low as possible if you can’t escape. So lay down and crawl your way to the nearest exit
I don’t hear fire/smoke alarms going off in the house. It’s a newer house, so it should have working alarms on all floors, so you should hear one in or near the room the firefighter first entered.
Thank you firefighters for your hard work and for running INTO burning buildings to search for occupants. God bless you all.
For the people that may not know (VES) stands for vent, enter, search.
Thank You for letting us know what VES means. Now how about RIT.
@@judis.1810 Rapid Intervention Team. Its a crew that will serve as a stand-by rescue team for personnel and be available for the immediate search and rescue of any injured, missing, unaccounted for fire fighters.
@@KingTut-yn1ou Also Rapid Intervention Crew in some places. Exact same thing, just a slight regional variation.
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You forgot the I, VEIS- Vent, Enter, Isolate, and search, isolating it will hopeful delay the fire spread and stop the flow path and make the space more survivable for anyone inside. Isolating it would be like closing the door to the room when you get in or something like that
Absolutely phenomenal job, especially with what limited resources you guys had.
When I saw this scenery, I had to google "Jersey Shore in a different state" LOL - never knew about this town - very cool.
I was like, I know there’s no mountains in NJ (grew up on the actual jersey shore) lol
Glad you guys are so professional. Thanks for all you do.
Yay modern construction.
The only issue I have is it appears you guys secured a hydrant and for some reason opted not to hit the main fire with the deck gun then move to handlines.
Maybe I missed something but could I get the rationale for that decision?
It was really a manpower issue at the time. Splitting the engine crew to search left 2 guys for fire attack and we wanted to be able to have lines in position to support the search. We also run 2" attack lines with 1" SBs, so we get pretty good fire flow out of them.
for any US/Canada firefighter - thoughts on metal roofs? Seems like they would be more slippery, harder to vent and even hold heat in the structure (but I guess I am not sure how thick they are).
Metal roofs retain a lot more heat, making interior temperatures much higher. You are correct that they become very slippery, especially in lower temperatures and usually require a circular power saw rather than a chain saw.
In wildland fire areas, metal roofs provide a lot of protection against floating embers. We have replaced almost all our composite roofs with metal at our ranch. Took many years but our insurance company was very plea$ed.
@@edloeffler9769 They only retain heat if the fire is in the attic void space... Fire here was mostly on the first floor..
i have opened many, a good saw goes right through them no problem. They do get slippery, and ice and snow will slide off at times on people below. Never noticed more heat inside, all good fires are hot,
Wind took that house. Good Job doing the search house was toast no matter what.
Really solid work. Well done.
Bravo! very brave going into a blind room. I suppose he felt around for human contact before returning out to safety
Good job for a rural fire dept to get in that second floor and do a primary search like the other guy said l would have taken that whole window out
Rural doesn't always equal complacent.
Dying in a fire is my hugest fear. It’s got to be the scariest way to go.
When I heard the pass the first time I wiggled 😂😂
At About The 10 Min. Mark, Just Let Her Burn, Save The Basement!!! Not Enough Manpower, And Equipment. It Was As Lost Cause When You Pulled Up!!! Good Job, With What You Had!!! Stay Safe Guys!!! Later
@@JB91710 Spoken like a TROLL who's NEVER been a firefighter.
@@ffjsbfor real all of us firefighters knows that no fire is to late to put out
Really AWESOME video!
That metal roof looks slick. Ill stick to being on the engine. I dont think I have the balls to be a truckie😂💪🏾💪🏾
That was an Engine Company my man
@@citizenshosecompany Oh😳😂 Well yall did a great job. Keep being great💪🏾💪🏾
This is why I never liked having the garage attached to or under the house.
one way to prevent house fires is to build your whole house inside and out 100 % concrete. same as the training burn buildings.
Why did they even try put it out in the first place..? It was fully destroyed upon arrival..
Whole different veiw
When fire fighter go inside
Just see in cam totally dark
That firefighter be careful
Inside burning house or building
What camera do you use?
Firecam Onyx 4k
The comments here are despicable and deplorable.
You know what you signed up for, you made an oath, and you swore to serve and protect lives at risk.
Risk whatever it takes to save a life. VES is NOT a dangerous task and it saves lives.
This department is awesome and their community is better off with them there.
If you don’t want to do the job that you signed up for that is inherently risky, turn in your turnouts.
And before any European’s come in here and say we are dangerous or behind on things, just don’t. Different countries, different tactics, and different culture and construction. This is America, I don’t give a damn how your volunteer company in Germany does things.
Stay safe Heros
What camera is that?
@@Gwiz822 Firecam Onyx 4k
I like my Australian firefighting training in structures, we do everything in pairs for obvious reasons and always enter with a fully charged line, even its through windows we know that's there, ready if we need it.... I got chills watching you guys going in alone & no line, one day its going to be your undoing... yep I get the time thing but you and the victim might need 4 hands & shower to get out alive...
As long as you use a TIC and sound the floor, it's a viable tactic. Risk a lot to save a lot. A fully charged line is better off being used on the fire underneath them. VES is a quick and dirty search, you're not hanging out in the room.
We do too. This is a VFD. More help is a ways out. If there is a person in the structure, what would you do? VFD's in the US outnumber career depts 3 to 1. My city responds 4 engines, 2 trucks, 1 EMS, 2 BC on any structure fire report. It is a different world.
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Fire dept call out,....... Or not
NICE HOME NO SMOKE DETECTORS , NO OVERHEAD SPRINKLERS ,
It’s not standard nor common to put sprinklers in a single family residence unless it’s an apartment building or some kind of mass housing
@@rdpmedia4606it's required on new construction where I live, but older homes including the one I live in do not usually have sprinkles
@@rdpmedia4606 STANDARDS IS NOTHING BUT A WORD IF ITS YOUR HOME YOU DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE SAFETY N SECURITY OF YOUR HOME DO NOT WAIT FOR A REGULATION USE YOUR BRAIN AND APPLY
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go inside and put the fire out.
The whole fuckin house was engulfed before the got there except the the second floor, which was only mostly involved. That was a lost home before arriving.
I have a question , why did they call the first floor and second floor divisions .It doesn't make sense at all . And was there any children trapped it did not say.
Floors are always divided into divisions. It's how they keep track all part of the federal command system
@@JasonWilliams-h9o Only if you use that mumbo jumbo to sound cool... SMH. Most of that is just made up by guys sitting behind desks... The overall theory is good, but there's a lot of nonsense too.
@@ffjsb so do you also think having A B C and D sides is dumb too?. Its a FF map to a dwelling
@@SndyOr Son, twenty years ago nobody used "division". the VAST majority of buildings we respond two are one and two story buildings. Pretty hard to confuse 1st floor, 2nd floor, basement... A,B,C,D are used because you can't always tell what direction a side is. I've only been doing this for over 40 years.
@@ffjsb I am a woman and not a FF but I know plenty of them and things are different from 20 years ago. It also matters whether you are rural or in a city. More people are building Tri Level homes with basements now so calling it a Division 1 takes the guesswork out of hearing on a radio, 1st floor as opposed to main floor or the living area, nobody has to make guesswork out of what A FF might be saying in a chaotic situation. An example is, People call the lights in an intersection a Red light. The proper name is Traffic Control lights. I've also heard people call it the Signal. So I think its just a way to make a strict Clarification. Thank you for your service, I mean no disrespect
It fascinates me to this day why they can’t attack the fire and search at the same time. It’s the one thing we do differently over here in the UK
Any vapor (gas, wood, plastics, atmosphere, heated water from fire hose) will rapidly fill the interior space after the first room reaches flash temp. You can't add any pressure in the direction of the victim during search.
@@ForestNinjaZero Due to the architecture, things are very different in the UK. External walls are solid and hollow internal walls do not extend between floors or into the roofspace.
Both during any rescue and an interior attack, high pressure jets are used to deal with fire emerging from windows. Water is mainly used to prevent fir from entering the loft via any overhangs. Then bounced off ceilings to extinguish the fire below. The water vapor and hot gasses exit through the window where the water enters. Water is never pumped in horizontally for all the reasons that you mentioned.
Almost all domestic fires are confined to one room and flashover is extremely rare.
Back in the 1960's, a restaurant in London was was attended after closure due to a smell of smoke outside. 2 firefighters entered, but their was no apparent fire. The kitchens were in the basement and a commercial non thermostatic fryer had been left on. As the basement door was opened and air entered. the whole lot flashed, blowing out every window in the building. People reported object being propelled to the opposite side of the road. Sadly, the objects were the 2 firefighters and neither of them survived.
It made headline news all over the UK for weeks and our queen offered her condolences. to the London fire brigade and the victims families. It is still considered to be one of the worst single domestic incidents since WW2.
Needless to say, Grenfell tower was a great tragedy and was a national disgrace due to blatant disregard of building regulations. the report exceeded 1,000 pages.
@@wilsjane I understand the methods, we call that process V.E.S. in the U.S, but you can't ignore the mass ratio of furnishings and wall/frame materials to internal area. When anything is burning, the interior space pressurizes, even after windows have burned (or have been smashed by firefighters for ventilation). Any attempt to extinguish, while firefighters are unaware of the victim's position/condition involves risk of acceleration within the victim's breathable space. For this reason, firefighters will search for cool paths and rapidly search safe areas, prior to application of water, then return for line setup.
@@ForestNinjaZero It clearly shows the fire mass difference between us and the US.
Apart from the lower spread, our internal wall boards are gypsum which breaks down to water during the first 30 minutes. Furnishings sold during the last 4 decades are required to be fire retardant, so in towns and cities the fire is knocked down within minutes.
The guy outside is both experienced and trained, he is never a rookie. He also has DIRECT radio contact with any rescue crew, so he would stop the moment any hot gasses were reported. Another difference is that every crew member has a specific task before arrival, so no one is waiting for orders. The second arriving truck normally deals with hydrant connections.
Needless to say commercial and industrial fires are very different.
One of the biggest worries is in seaside areas with the sprawling Victorian hotels. Since their business is seasonal, they are often in a bad state of repair.
@@wilsjane Another major problem in the U.S. is inability to educate migrant populations in high-density residential zones around major cities. Spaces will tend to reach flash temp before arrival of firefighters, and even retardant materials will vaporize instantly after rolling vapor reaches those temperatures (in some cases more energetically and generate extremely poisonous vapor). High-rise and multi-family structures are designed to contain/vent toward the exterior, but it's difficult to predict behavior (arson, open doors, hoarding conditions, failure/refusal to notify fire officials, etc). Full flash tends to occur regardless, but they still need to search first!
Am I the only one that had an issue with these guys going interior without a dedicated nozzle on standby? Rescue mode or not.
Yes, you are… FOR THEM
@@MichaelMiller-xu2is Huh? “For them?”
During VES or VEIS, taking a line slows down advancement. A water can could've been taken and set at the entry point, but it's get in and get out for life safety. A charged line should've been pushed interior while VES was being carried out. Aside from a slow start, the effort was made. Glad no one was inside.
Tin roof....no place for the fire to go but inside ....never get a tin roof... insurance should be 3x more with 1
What about firefighters trying to walk on it after if gets wet? I have wanted a tin roof but I never considered what risks it might pose.
US firefighting is so far behind the times, and extremely unsafe.
Says the continent that had the London Tower fire with inadequate equipment and safety regulations.
@@joshuahill5271 Safety regulations were adequate. The equipment that responded was adequate.
Tbf our firefighting techniques and equipment are much different than everyone else's. But our will power to protect the people in imminent danger is truly our drive. US firefighters like myself admittedly are behind in terms of research or illnesses. But who isn't?
@@Sewbuwu don’t get me wrong, I’m not slating the dedication. That is always to be admired. The apparent focus on tradition rather than development though is bonkers, and the lack of safety.
@CymruEmergencyResponder oh yeah without a doubt we favor tradition over anything. Improvements have been provided to us but fire fighters are too hard headed. That's how it is 🤷♂️
Yeesh...