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THE REASON FOR 3 ENGINES IS CHINA STILL CAN'T MATCH THE USA IN ENGINE DEVELOPMENT AND REQUIRES 3 TO TRY TO KEEP PACE WITH THE USA'S 1 ENGINE F35. YOU SAID YOU USED AI TO FACT CHECK. ARE YOU NOT AWARE OF CHINA'S ENGINE DEVELOPMENT AND AIRCRAFT PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEMS?
Remember this fact China has more scientists & Engineers than the all west combined.
Can we have a video on the beautiful J-10 please
You mentioned tailless designed originating in America, then what about the Ho-229
Also the other smaller Jet looks like it has downwards folding wingtips similar to the XB-70 Valkyrie
How on earth did this guy turn a 30 second short from china into a 17 minute video?
😂their own military says it is rubbisch
Upscaling🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
“This guy” is actually an AI 🤖 (not the ShitGPT) who can access to every military file within a second, so “he” already knows everything 😂
I mean I know he uses AI but he's an actual AI channel??@@MP-vc4nu
"we don't know shit"
Lmao sums up the entire video😂
we definitely know it flies
we're pretty sure about the shape
😂😂😂. You nailed it.
😂😂😂
This could be a long range interceptor
"What we know" is literally nothing. We know its rough shape, we know it flies, and we know it's Chinese. Here we go, that is everything.
这是我们在月球背面虐待外星人之后抢来的科技，你们也可以❤
A lot more can be told with physics, engineering and math.
@@igorsurz Every time a prototype plane has crashed, an engineer said those same words just an hour beforehand.
@@igorsurzLike how we knew all the capabilities of the Mig-25 Foxbat... smh.
“the bluetooth device is ready to pair”
edit: i think i won the award for peak copium
You still use the headset tho
And the cancel button is half pushed in and won’t read, so just use pause play and reassign it.
China litrelly destroyed the US stock market with deepseek.
Copium soldier
*In Chinese accent 😂
History taught us that :-
1) never underestimate your enimes and their abilities for your ego and over self estimation
2) hitler lost at stalin grad because of this and equipment wise ussr is way behind german...
3) napolean underestimated winter and lost in Russia...
I'm sorry but it's China... it doesn't have a good track record with anything.
Germany lost Stalin grad because they open two fronts of the war if it was only Germany vs the ussr then Germany would have won
History taught us: don't scare the US into thinking you have something better. They will make something that can kill God.
Firstly wtf are you on about? Secondly how were the Soviets technology behind the Germans during Stalingrad? Thirdly Napoleon underestimated many things. He already lost the war against Russia before winter hit
History taught us Germany was defeated by depriving them of raw material and oil, so their great industrial base was good for nothing.
I like how the comment section doesnt give solid argument but just coping call it temu and compare it to other us prototype
What did you expect? Intellectual and solid arguments from the people who still think that the f-15 has never been shot down, ego self stroking at its finest
Chinese hate, their comments would be different if it was Japan who develop 6th gen aircraft
They and the video also talk about US when talking about tailess jet fighters, when itd grmney that invented first tailess jet fighter in ww2. Even stealth bomber cincept was theres
Whats funny is just a mere decade ago China had to cut every corner possible and steal every bit of info they could to make a laughably half finished "5th gen jet" that noone wants to touch with a 10ft pole. Even the Saudis laughed them out the convention. They couldn't even develop their own engines without piggy backing off the Russians FFS. Neither can they build semi conductors. This is a paper tiger plane with nothing to show.
Dude. Look at nearly everything they have and you will see it's actually copied from the US. And everyone knows they are cheap.
-new engines for high speed
-massive wings for maneuverability
-very secretive
-new high tech stuff
Close enough. Welcome back MiG-25!
mig 25 plusproultra
now with more stealth features and less galvanized steel
truly for you
mikoyan TM
😂
Which means the us will make something scarier.
@@sebastienholmes548 Yea sorry but yur fan fiction doesn't exist. NGAD is delayed and dead in it's 2020 form.
Fan fiction doesn't exist. Sorry, but cope.
lol mig still holds the records, beat it before you talk
Wang Haifeng stated his idea of the J-36 in one of his public paper. He mentioned about highly integrated propulsion/power system with the fuselage, and said the J-36 will be a megawatt-power(yes, an entire fking megawatt) platform to support highly advanced and sophisticated avionic system. This is exactly the reason why the J-36 is a trijet - they need an extra engine to powered all these thing.
Also, the J-36 will have extreme range and decent supercruise abilities, and therefore became another reason to have a third engine - pretty counter-intuitive, but a three-engine jet could be more fuel efficient than a twin-engine when it comes to supercruise, since at high alttitude the unit fuel consumption could rise as the engine's thrust level rises, and a three-engine design will have each engine running on lower power setting when in cruising, therefore less fuel consumption in total. Wang's idea is "fuel efficiency comes ahead of thrust", since if you have an underpowered yet efficient engine, all you loss is just a few tens of knots of your maximum speed and a few hundred feet of your celling, which is not that important if you're a very stealthy aircraft that focused on BVR engagement only. A gas-guzzler yet powerful engine, however, could bring you better maneuverability, but will also make you have to adding tens of tons of fuel into your plane, just to met your combat radius requirement.
西工大早在7年前發表過一篇論文就是第三臺背部發動機更高效
I think the current trend is to rely on stealth more and build larger aircraft as the engagement distances have increased. If your not planning in getting into a dogfight, you can build an aircraft thats more interceptor than fighter. Also with stealth aircraft being much more expensive your going to have less of them and they will need to cover more distance. Also airbases are static and likely your going to base your expensive planes deep within your territory to help defend against drone strikes. In the MIG-35 has performed better than its counterpart the SU-27 in the Ukraine war. The F-35s smaller size is because it needs to take off, land and fit on an aircraft carrier.
On a public paper you say...
More likely, they have three engines to properly power the damn thing into flight at all. The Chinese aren’t exactly the best at making good engines.
@@theKingsAmbassadors it is… you can literally find it online if you know how to…
Remember right at the start of WW2 American and European were thinking that Japan aircraft development was rudimentary and only are copies of Western technology and design, until American actually dogfighted Mitsubishi in the sky of the Pacific that we started to realized how advanced they were. Forget history and you will have to repeat it again with blood.
Remember 5-8 years back when everyone though the us was behind russia in missle tech, and then the US revealed thepatriot missle system? Yeah it seems like people really don't learn from history
Sacrificing pilot safety for performance was the norm for imperialist Japan, without self sealing fuel tanks even getting clipped by American bullets usually meant going down in a flaming ball. Horikoshi Jiro was a genius for his design though, closing the technology gap with the USA.
The humiliating history of "Eight-Nation Alliance" makes Chinese unforgettable!
@ China was part of that alliance, wtf are you even saying.
@@AL-pv2bqNo it isn't, you must be mentally challenged to think that way
according to the size, 3 engine configuration, and the weapons bay
I can say that this will be Heavy Fighter Bomber. similar to Su-34 but stealth and more more weapons
it's more like MiG-31. Supersonic missile carrier, and it also has less payload that Su-34
I would say the Russian fox hound
This isn't a fighter bomber dude. Let alone compared to a "Su-34" LOL.
@@AkyJLa_ ah, I see
J for fighter,H for bomber..And the thing is called JH-36.
Finally!!! 😎 Ace Combat’s crazy looking planes are here ❤
Hope China is serious about their Arsenal Bird!
This reminds me of the XFA-36 from Electrosphere
Lmao i love this😂
I guess U.S.'s 5th Generation aircrafts have more targets to practice on, lol.
@@FlatulEssence lol fangurls so salty
I'm going to propose the name: 响箭 (Xiǎngjiàn) ("Whistling Arrow")
"This refers to a special type of kite fitted with bamboo whistles that made a sound in flight. These were used in military contexts to signal troops or create psychological effects." -Chat GPT Seems pretty fitting since it's kite shaped and has 3 jet engines.
Also, the middle engine is definitely not a SCRAM jet. The mach waves off the front would not work for that intake placement. I think it's for increased stealth cruising when the other 2 intakes close off.
Na, it’s the anti grav motor for when it’s time to switch from Jackie Chan to Bruce Lee mode
Good! The new name says what it does!
@@Brandon_Makes_Stuff it's not scram or ramjet... It's literally the same engine for all 3 of them. It's a DSI intake, it won't work for ram or scramjet. I really doubt that intake connects to the other 2 intakes.
No ulterior motives here, but I just kind of want to point out that the idea has been used already in the PLA's hypersonic drone series 'MD-XX', for instance the MD-19 and the MD-22. MD stands for ‘鸣镝’, (Mingdi)(which means exactly 'whistling arrow'), and this literally is the name of an actual type of arrow used in ancient combat. So it isn't a kite, I guess. And the arrow in question is actually, according to Wiki, often made from a hollow metal tube instead of from bamboo.
That size, 2 pilots, 3 engines, its an intercontinental subsonic bomber - like US 21.
That is an interesting take!
no, never.
i'd bet on it being at least supersonic, but it's definitely a bomber. with that layout? no question.
@@btkt6464 what do you mean never? China doesn't have a stealth/strategic bomber fleet
maybe its like f117
3 engines. That thing was made for near-space wars. Imagine...
It's got 3 engines to provide enough electricity for more powerful avionics and the possibility of integrating a laser weapon.
@@hellothere1656 Laser weapon? Really? That is the dumbest theory ever.
A laser loses a ton of power with range passing through the atmosphere, why would you want a weapon that to do damage needs to..
-Be within a mile
-Stay focused on an exact spot on the enemy plane for 1+ minutes
You could beat the laser by just doing a barrel roll since it would spread out the heat.
Plus, an effective one would draw a ton of power limiting how long you could fire it for.
Nah, lasers are not the future of air combat. STFU starwars fans.
That's not how it works, if having a lot of engines meant it could fly high than the B-52 with 8 engines can go to the moon right?
What matters is thrust to weight ratio and we have 0 data on that so for all we know it's service ceiling is 6km.
@@AL-pv2bq 3 words. Near infinite ammo.
@@AL-pv2bq Just above the comment you're replying to says "That thing was made for near-space wars."
Holy moly the copium on the comments
Wait till they see Chinese cars and phones and see how more advanced they are.
@@srfnsurfer what? Are you joking? How is critical thought and questioning everything working for Chinese Engineers?! Oh that's right, they don't because they are not allowed free thoughts at all!
@@duckcensorship7446and ur proof for that is what? Ur LGBTQ government of USA told u that huh?
@@duckcensorship7446 ?
@@duckcensorship7446me when i cope
Finally one that’s not racial and old stereotypes of people that know nothing about aircraft
did you pulll that out your arse? because most 100% of the videos i've seen were saying US is falling behind when its obvious this chinese 6th gen isnt that advanced
@@didiyo4366 (Advance and stealth) isn't always only the main priority here, firepower,speed,agility and durability are also top priority. it might not be advance and stealthy but it's probably high in these four categories (who knows? Everyone's always keeping secrets anyways) only time will tell.
@@didiyo4366 how do you know? building an aircraft is already difficult af, let alone a stealth one.
@ i say less advance considering how they appeared to used 3 engines. which is an indicator of how less powerful their engines are.
For comparision, f35 is only single engine.
@ there are signs. read my comment above
The logical ideal design for a launch platform for China’s advanced missiles. PL17 air to air missiles and probably an upgraded one in a few years. YJ12 anti ship missile and possibly a YJ21 anti ship missile.
I completely agree with your perspective. The future of aerial combat and air superiority will be dominated by beyond visual range engagements, which necessitates the use of extreme long-range air-to-air missiles like the PL-17, R-37M, and AIM-260 JATM. To maintain full stealth capabilities, 6th-generation fighter jets will require large internal weapon bays capable of carrying multiple missiles. I’ve heard some people refer to it as the JH-36, likely because its design resembles a bomber. However, this viewpoint seems rooted in 20th century aerial combat paradigms, which no longer apply to the advanced, stealth focused, and beyond visual range driven nature of modern warfare.
@ instead of thinking of it as 6th generation, it deserves its own category just like bomber and fighter. Aircraft designed to best launch stand-off weapons. Not just a missile truck like a converted transport aircraft, but designed for speed, range, stealth, large internal weapon bay, altitude, and ability to launch missiles at high altitude & velocity to maximize their range. No need to compromise the design for high g maneuvers, not excellent pilot visibility from a bubble cockpit canopy, not a huge flight envelope.
A typical scenario could be patrol. If a ship or task force has been detected by satellite, then two manned J36 could fly together with 6 stripped down J36 drones that do not require their own sensors, cockpit, avionics. (they don’t need it because they will be controlled by the manned J36 aircraft nearby). The J36 drones could each launch YJ21 missiles aimed at all the Aegis radar ships to blind the task force. H6 bombers could then launch a large number of YJ21 at every ship in the task force without being detected. J20 aircraft 50 or 150 miles back could provide strong jamming to further hide the J36 if necessary while they make their escape. In case aircraft were chasing the escaping J36, the J20 fighters could also provide defense as the J36 return home.
They are making a new missile for this beast. PL-17 is already last gen for the PLAAF.
I’d love to see the American response to this aircraft too, but honestly, I’m not as optimistic about it as I used to be. Those new ICBMs are somehow so expensive that the Air Force is shelving the NGAD program, and now the Navy is trying to manage expectations about what their next 'NGAD' fighter will actually be capable of.
The only thing I’m confident in right now is the government and military’s ability to cancel or cut back on crucial purchases while throwing ridiculous amounts of money at bases we don’t need and outdated weapon systems that are too politically tied up to scrap. And let’s not forget-they still can’t even pass an audit! They don’t even know where a good chunk of their money is going!
They lucked out when they cut the F-22 order short, but I really hope they’re not looking at that as proof they can repeat the same mistake. The world is a much different place now, and we’ve got plenty of adversaries just waiting for us to slip up and take our eyes off of the goal.
NGAD might be getting shelved, but the Navy's 6th gen program seems to be going great and basically every fighting craft in the Air Force fleet is getting some much needed upgrades, from the B-52 all the way to the F-22. Add in the armament programs and the lack of a sixth gen fighter for the Air Force isn't much of an issue for any of the potential conflicts on the horizon.
I'd rather we spend on the ICBMs over NGAD, those Minutemen are getting ancient and continued maintenance is unsustainable.
Are you talking about the money specifically for the military the reason why there's a good number of money that's not known where it's going to specifically because it's going to blacklisted stuff. As in things are not going to tell you what they're using it on, like a secret playing they're working on like the sr-71, granted I'm not sure specifically what you're referring to on that point.
As for the 6th gen being worked on, it's still being done, especially for the navy, as for the Air Force I mean it's not that necessarily a big deal since you could potentially do it much cheaper by just upgrading the F-22 which is still a really great plain as it is, the big complaint with it is just that it's expensive. Expensive and hasn't been really used, but there's a reason for that since there's really hasn't been a need for it yet. Of course, if there were to be some kind of war like with China or Russia where we would need to use it, then you'd find that being far more justified.
That doesn't mean they're not still working on it, they still will be working on especially Lockheed and I would say Boeing but who cares about them.
It's not like they stopped production in making this plane was supposed to be at all.
@autumnberend828 The blacklists don’t even scratch the surface when it comes to the missing funds in the DoD.
As for the F-22, I totally agree-it’s an incredible aircraft! But cutting production so early really put us in a tough spot. These upgrades are great, sure, but airframes have their limits, and we can’t just make more Raptors. If a major war breaks out, any losses in combat are permanent, and we wouldn’t be able to replace them.
The NGAD situation is just wild. They were so far into the process-manufacturers already narrowed down based on specific metrics-and now they’re like, "Uh, yeah, can you just strip out all the expensive cutting-edge stuff and make it more affordable with tried-and-true tech?" I get wanting to save money, and Ukraine has definitely shown we need to rethink how war is fought. But at the same time, you don’t want to gamble with untested tech or risk falling behind.
@julians7268 in all fairness, the idea of this being a potential drone playing with its own drone swarm was a pretty damn ambitious idea to begin with. I mean I get where it's going, but I can already tell right away that's going to be extraordinarily expensive and me wondering if it was really worth it in the end. I feel like you could just make a base drone swarm with that instead of a whole thing that can host a person or by itself.
I think the fact that the Air Force stopped looking into it so much whereas the Navy did not is not necessarily a bad thing considering most planes are flown by the navy, and it's also supposed to be an air dominance which would be right up their alley, although the Air Force could utilize them too but I don't think it's nearly as important as the Navy. But honestly who knows I'm not in their meetings. I just want a satellite that shoots lasers. Give me a death star and I'll find you for a lifetime.
@baronvonslambert for that much money, are the ICBMs really even necessary? I understand their purpose, but it just seems like a huge waste to me. They could just lie and say they are functional and who ever decides a preemptive strike is still going to have to hit those silos just to be safe. Job done. Ballistic submarines carry far more firepower, that has a much quicker time to target, and is a lot more survivable.
Im not arguing with you. People far smarter than I believe the ICBMs are critical so they very well could be, but for that price it's just ridiculous. I mean, when yoy look at the capabilities they are not even much more capable than the minutemen 3's!
The most recent figures are just over $140.9 billion!!! Sentinel was pitched to the Army with a price tag of $95.3 billion, which ballooned by 81%!
Hell, the TOTAL PROJECTED COST of the entire Columbia-class submarine fleet of 12 ballistic missile submarines is only projected to be $130 billion. Compare that to the $140.9 billion for 400 individual, stationary, ICBMs with a limit of 3 MIRVS per missile. The Navy's Trident II can deploy 8 MIRVS and it only costs $30 million! On the other hand the Sentinel will cost (so far) $100 million per missile and carry less payload to target.
I dont know... I just don't feel like making the NGAD less capable should be the price for this. I like the B-21 Raider too, but it is no replacement for a fighter. Not unless these CAAs make some incredible leap in capability and can fly along with it and out in front of it. But... I guess we shall see.
There is a mistake in the model. The joints for then rudders are not visible in the real plane, they are blended with the wing.
The seamless joints and lack of actuators evidence the use of electric high precision high velocity actuators for constant fly by wire stability control and flexible skin materials.
3:49 “This jet is massive” my last two brain cells: you know what else is ma-
0:18 glass flickering it's a render issue
🙏🙏master
You're pretty smart for an English speaking guy. You realized on your own that this is a rendering.
he ain't talkin to y'all
If you model two polygon faces in exactly the same position, it may appear like this.
@@alestbest uhh, literally everybody knows this though? The entire video is rendered
the theory for creating stealth aircraft was made by Russian scientist.
that is false
This is true a Russian scientist had an idea and the United States put the effort into proving it and it evolved into the f-117
This is false it came from the government interacting with aliens. We are back engineering technology. Its how we started producing microchips and why in 60 years computers have gone from entire rooms, to phones having 1million times the processing power.. you're being lied to because when energy is free they lose control.
@@aquilesca5tr0It is true - a Soviet physicist wrote the paper for it first which then led to the F117
@@aquilesca5tr0 pottan
There is the possibility that J-50 is the unmanned wingman for J-36, the high speed extremely low observability targeting system.
2 pilots, 1 to pilot the J-36 and another to pilot the J-50 remotely? Just a theory.
The J-50 will be the "Pakistani 6th Gen Fighter"
J36 most like a PCA/Penetrating Counter Air similar to the NGAD manned fighter component, but aimed to take out high value tankers and awacs. J50 most likely the next frontline fighter for air superiority.
J50,not sure it's designation, is carrier capable. Not a drone. Drones are coming too.
@ there is no evidence to suggest it is not unmanned. Carrier capable also doesnt mean its manned, in fact you have even have a drone carrier, an unmanned carrier with unmanned aircraft taking off.
So far it looks like a stealthy strike aircraft with air to air capabilities. It´s been known for quite some time that stealthy air to air fighters will end up being more like bombers.
>is probably very fast and agile
>resembles US concepts for in-development next-gen fighters
>we have no way to counter it
Welcome back, MiG-25!
* 60% of your F-35 fleet are grounded;
* 40% of your crew team on drug;
* Your R&D teams packed with Indian brownnoses;
* Your pathetic naval surface force are rusking chunks of metal floating while falling apart;
* While China builds 220 times more ships and 150% more cars than the US;
* China has 500% more STEM talents than the US;
* The Chinese people no longer consider the US as a near-peer adversary ever after the Pandemic;
* So good luck.
China Jet Engines have 1/2 the life span, 3/4 the thrust and 2/3rds the mileage as USA Jet Engines.
Also factually China Military Radar is 7 years behind the USA radar systems.
USA Plane can see and shoot down China Jets 70 miles before China even knew they were there!
@@CarbonicHolyPally Yeah USA Plane can do anything & everthing. Most of the time they do cordless bungee jump.
Before it becomes fashionable, I'll let you know that this is my favorite sixth generation plane
oh trust me, it won't.
Why does everyone like to act like the Chinese are just idiots at everything? They make EVERYTHING. I don't agree with how they do things, but they are cutting edge in most fields now.
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor it already did 😊✡️🇺🇸
Big oofff
@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor it already did
Amazing animation 👌
At 14:01 "the perfect Boogie Man!" 🤔
Who do we send to kill the Boogie Man... John Wick... aka SR-72 / F-22😂
This is like the most in-depth video about this plane I've seen
Only a pilot and an engineer focused in creating planes knows how hard (and sick) is making a plane without tail… this is advance technology.
Stupid comment. The Germans made a flying wing called the Horten Ho Me 220 in 1943.
@@paulbellas8797what you mean that plane that crashed a bunch and melted people alive
@ Its been done many times. Not quite that amazing unless you are part of the 10 cent army!!!
@@paulbellas8797what?
@@paulbellas8797 And then you stole it, right?(paperclip)
China: *reveals new jet*
Lockheed: “ok boys which project are we gonna show to the public next without them complaining about tax dollars”
You mean, let's shut down Ngad and call it a day?
Lockheed on their way to develop another plane for 5 billion dollars or smth and almost a decade
@ Lockheed had planes already flying that we just don’t know about. The same thing happened with the SR-71
the chinease : we've been hard at work the last 25 years and built a new 6th gen aircraft
the american : actually , you did not !
China just do and US just complaint 😂 China never made any announcements and never call it 6 gen
官方还没正式承认，只是用飞机类似的叶子和鸟的照片表达了飞机的存在。我认为2026年的珠海航空展，J36会在低空通场飞过
I think that this is just like the panic that the Americans took when the soviets made the mig-25
The problem is the roles might be reversed. The F-35 might be the aircraft that causes China to leap ahead by a generation and mass manufacture something that makes the F-35 seem both primitive and expensive. US development and manufacturing is starting to look as stale and anemic as the late CCCP.
Tailless fighter concepts were in the 90s, too. The X-36 was one, a scaled-down machine, i believe, built by Boeing.
The problem of low speed stability in a tailess supersonic design was never solved by the US. It appears China has.
Tailless designes had existed since forever (since the beginning of the 20th century). The problem (as with everything) is making them practical and useful to the current gen of modern aviation. And that particular caveat is extremely hard.
@@incomingincoming1133 Where did you hear it's super sonic? There was no sonic boom in the video clip and that is literally all we have.
@@AL-pv2bq That's what 'it appears' means. Visually, it does have a wing sweep angle and nose typical of supersonic jets. And if the engines are par with other known Chinese engines, it also has the thrust to weight ratio to easily go beyond supersonic, perhaps even without afterburn.
@ Their are limitations beyond thrust to weight ratio if they are claiming the plane is stealth. Many paints and other coatings can get ripped off by supersonic airflow if a plane goes to fast.
Regardless of ability the 2 Chinese aircraft look so cool
So in terms of being a max level dorito, the Ja-35 Draken has now a competitor
17 minutes and 2 seconds to say 'dunno'
honestly.. it is a fighter for sure, but it sets a new standard of "fighter" with 6th gen fighter concept... more advanced doesn't means it is "out" of the "fighter" category...
Looks like a drone from the game ace combat
Hope China is serious about their Arsenal Bird.
What's insane is how there are so many people attempting to figure this out based on a short grainy video of an early test acft that china obv knew would be recorded and sent out to the internet.
Man I feel bad about JÉ5 😂 ... It's like J35 forgotten yet she will do most of the PLA job
The US no longer has deep pocket, China does. The US has fallen so far behind China in several technologies that this isn't that shocking.
With it being their first attempt at a stealth bomber or interceptor, calling it 6th generation is probably hyperbolic
You mean, you are taking Copium Express
The Chinese's first attempt at stealth fighter jet program was the J-20 and J-35, the J-36 and that Shenyang program is their first attempt at 6th gen program. Its 100% a 6th gen program, but the J-36 and that Shenyang jet is not 6th gen yet, there are way more tests to go. It will become 6th gen when PLA accepts it. Both Chengdu and Shenyang have their own 6th gen program and Xian is also working on H-20 and a JHXX program. Every country is in uncharted water here, the US and China had a head start with their 6th gen program. I don't see any problem with Chinese having something to show for it.
China is not saying it is 6th gen. They haven't said a single thing. It's just random people on the Internet speculating.
The term 6th gen is NOT literal, it's just a reference point for the next cutting edge aircraft
LOL cope. China has 300 j20 5th gen stealth fighters. Shouldn't be such a suprise that a country with the 2nd largest 5th gen fighter fleet and an army of talented engineers could develop 2 6th gen fighter prototypes before the US. Maybe the US couldve developed a 6th gen jet by now if the Pentagon didn't have $1 trillion go missing.
great video with great animations, top work my man
Goddamnit people! This entire comment section has no love for the Foxhound? Come on!
So many gifts lately: Xmas 6 gen, new year 450 high speed, Chinese new year rednite/deepseek....what's next? Moon station 😂
Actually, officialy China did never say they are 6th gen.
外交部人员已经公布了
@陆离-p2r 沒說是"六代"，只是新型
@yushion5804 如果你没有正确的渠道去观看真正的语言,那么就当我没说,你自己认为就好
Cast your mind back to WW2, the British Mosquito, Spitfire and post war Hawker Hunter were some most beautiful aircraft to ever grace the sky, and the best. What they had in common was they "Looked Right", sleek and fast. Fast forward to recent American aircraft in particular the F-22 and F-35, they just don't "look right", and I think the major design motivation was to grift as much money from the American taxpayer as possible. This new Chinese beast, looks right, and looks like one mean mother, I think in role, a 21st century Mosquito is it. Fast, long-range intruder fighter-bomber.
The War Thunder forums are losing their grip, disappointing.
Next, talk about H-20 bomber
I look at it and I can't help but think "Stealth 'Vaark."
We need new a Ace Combat game with all these toys
Given that China have such strong hightech manufacturing experiences and supply China, couple that with a huge highly talented pool of engineer and researchers, the odds are we will see 6 gen from China long before the Americans.
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@@passby8070 it has taken China 20 years to catch up to the US with 5th gen planes, what makes you think 6th gen will be any different?
China Jet Engines have 1/2 the life span, 3/4 the thrust and 2/3rds the mileage as USA Jet Engines.
Also factually China Military Radar is 7 years behind the USA radar systems.
USA Plane can see and shoot down China Jets 70 miles before China even knew they were there!
No fin just spin so no targeting just R&D. Thanks for coming out💧
Its a missile truck, designed to deny carrier battle group an area.
It needs to be stealthy so it can enter the contested airspace. Then fires its payload.
Finally flying supersonic back home before the F35 can intercept it.
Crazy concept.
Assuming it works, this was made in China after all
The third engine probably kicks in to run. The short range and slow speed of the F35 is finally biting back. The navy needs a new stealth equivalent of F14
@anotherbacklog yea, needs a brand new fleet defender. F18 can't cut to the task!
All major powers have been struggling to build aircraft that can power all the modern advanced electronics and disapate all the heat they inevitably produce. Most likely, this is an attempt to solve that problem, just as the European 6th gen program is. It will be missile truck, drone control centre, mini AWAC and stealth fighter/bomber in one most likely. That or it's just propaganda, but somehow I doubt that
I don't know, a Chinese satellite that picked up moon rocks from the far side of the moon and brought it back, a Chinese space station, and a chinese mars lander that made it to Mars and recently, a Chinese A.I named deepseek surpassed gpt and crashed American A.I markets.
Does Chinese tech work?
Every advancement in fighter technology inches towards becoming UFOs. xD
Cool to engage with you, thanks for streaming live!
the air intake at the back is genius design.
China Jet Engines have 1/2 the life span, 3/4 the thrust and 2/3rds the mileage as USA Jet Engines.
Also factually China Military Radar is 7 years behind the USA radar systems.
USA Plane can see and shoot down China Jets 70 miles before China even knew they were there!
so to count6th Generation is it true it needs this ?
AI and Automation: Unmanned or optionally manned operations supported by artificial intelligence.
Directed Energy Weapons: Lasers or high-powered microwaves integrated into the airframe.
Swarm Drone Capability: Ability to command and deploy a swarm of drones in battle.
Next-Level Stealth: Focus on multi-spectrum stealth, including radar, infrared, and electronic emissions.
Adaptive Engines: Variable-cycle engines for enhanced performance and efficiency.
@@WilliamSanderson86 probably not as presented, probably going to use it to develop and shape future designs.
There are no hard lines or standards to reach, to call it a certain Gen.
Just generally agreed upon milestones by experts.
The Story of the "Top Secret Jet" we know nothing about....
The fact is, stealth air superiority foghters isnt all its cracked up to be. For 1, while stealth is strong, it is not very econmical to field large numbers of stealth aircraft. Ultimately, stealth is justed ysed to clear the way for your non stealth aircraft to operate, so it makes sense why they aren't produced in large number.
China has 300 stealth j20s. They have the money to pay for fielding them.
The USA has about 1,000 F-35s so that doesn't hold up either.
@@DakotaTheRota yes, 100 f35s but how many f-16s do they still operate? The fact is, the f-35, for all the improvements it offers, is too expensive. Right now there isn't any real justification for having more of them because you only really need stealth to establish air superiority. Once you have it, it much cheaper to use f-16s to maintain that air superiority
i feel like the bottom intakes are not s-ducted as you can see the intake fin in the model but the top intake might be s-ducted.this is also indicated from a side view, so the turning off two engines and using only the top one in enemy territory for stealth makes sense.
The f22 has the same configuration and it is s ducted.
Baseless claim there mate
How is this 3D model and accurate representation of the real thing? It won't be accurate because we don't even have official dimensions. This is a complete baseless and stupid argument
keep feeling dude these are just model speculations nothing more😂
@@brownguy9135 true but in the 2d drawn model he showed shows the inlet blade for the 2 engines..but I don't know if the model is accurate
@CrispyPratt chill bro..jus sharing my opinion from what I see
I'll wait to see their performance in next Ace combat game 🎉
aviation has not changed. South Korea, Japan, Turkey, and others have also flown stealth prototypes.
US have been operating tens of stealth aircraft for 5 decades already.
indeed, Israel have already proven the capability of F35 yet CCP trolls claims j20 and j35 is better when it all do is airshow and propaganda.
Those are 6th gen.
@@davidz7858 nope. only one country can even claim to have anything 6th gen (the US). everyone else is just building 5th gen and catching up to where the US was 50yrs ago.
SKorea, Japan, Turkey, Russia, China, etc. aircraft aren't even as good as US 5th gen aircraft.
@@SoloRenegade You remind me of an oldman who said in 2024 that he hope China would have a lot of cars now...
@ because you're an uneducated 2cent army propagandist for the CCP.
a 5th gen is any modern fighter with stealth. and most of these stealth aircrft aren't nearly as stealthy as the F-22 nor F-35. Stealth is expensive. and the better it is, the more it costs. US has been building low observable and stealth operational aircraft since the 1960s. and spent a lot of time and money researching it. No other country has done nearly as much research or spending to match it. Others are just getting started, dipping their toe in and copying the low hanging fruit that doesn't cost nearly as much. And with far less capability.
"who said in 2024 that he hope China would have a lot of cars now..."
see, i never would have hoped that. I wanted the CCP to face revolution over their famine rather than resort to temporary limited capitalism to keep their dictatorship in power. Bad people need to face the consequences of their actions. CP needed to be overthrown.
The J-35 looks exactly like if you were to take an F-35 and F-22 and mash them together. 😭
Lmao then f35 crashed in Alaska. Another 100m wasted
And the F-16s crashed in Ukraine, also there was another F-35 crash a few years ago too. No J-20 ever crashed and they're making fun of it lol.
@@gone-h4f Number of hours in air buddy! China Jet Engines have 1/2 the life span, 3/4 the thrust and 2/3rds the mileage as USA Jet Engines.
Also factually China Military Radar is 7 years behind the USA radar systems.
USA Plane can see and shoot down China Jets 70 miles before China even knew they were there!
@ Im talking about how the "American" best jets in the world according to Google and all that crashes yet the made funned J-20 never crashed. Also how the F-35 doesn't spin and do tricky moves every-time it flies while the J-20 does, huge difference.
Maybe the real Bluetooth devices are the F35s that randomly disconnects midair
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I was about to say the same thing 😭💀
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Go on
The coping in the comments is wild 😭😭🙏🙏
I think I made that in simpleplanes when I was 14
So when was the B21 test flight? So how was trying to beating us out dude making the video?😂😂😂
Nice video
Y’all can’t lie, looks cool ASF
I’m confused, what makes it 6th gen and not just late 5th gen , what qualifies a jet to be 5th or 6th and even 4th
Just to continue, is it because of even less radar cross section
They call it 6th gen for the clickbait, 5th gens are just fighters with stealth and 4th gen fighters are the ones that incorporate computers
Even the currect Chinese "5th Generation" are probably only "4th" gen! China don't design their own equipment, they steal it without understanding it and then they over exagerate the capabilities! As opposed to the US, who will always understate their equipment and it capabilities!
Speculation. Generations are arbitrary. China never stated that they were 6th gen and in fact they have a different metric than the US.
Higher flight altitude, faster flight speed, farther radar detection unit, better stealth design, so that it can hit the fifth-generation aircraft, but the fifth-generation aircraft can't hit it. It may be equipped with two WS15 engines and a rotary detonation engine used in near space, and the propulsion power far exceeds all existing fighters.
Ego is where people loose...
Es könnte sich hier bei diesem Flugzeugtyp Chengdu J-36 um einen Jagdbomber der nächsten Generation handeln .
The third engine also provides a testbed setup for in flight checkouts of newer version upgrades while having redundancy. Also extra power output for newer electrical hungry components.
And also because china has yet to create a jet propulsion engine capable of reaching the speeds and output of the our Gen 6 jets with only 1 modernnengine.
Didn’t the US have a prototype 6th gen back in 2020, but they realised that it was easier, cheaper, and more effective to upgrade the F 15, 16, 18, 22 and 35 with all the bells and whistles that make a 6th gen a 6th gen instead of making a new tail less design that barely gonna beat the 22 and 35 in radar cross section?
You cannot upgrade a 4.5 gen jets to become on par againts 6th gen jets lmao.
@@fbi8372 he didn't say they were on par, the idea is it's more COST EFFECTIVE
That was the casr cause of the jncompetnce of them, mass producing jets now is tech of gone era for them as 6th costs then 300m. Its officially YT superiority airforce now.
Heavy duty Copium 😅
Whats 6th gen even mean
How much y’all wanna bet that War Thunder will “accidentally” leak this plane’s secret documents?
Wow, nice video F&E! I never knew that China has a 6th Gen Fighter Jet already past the design stage. Despite all the criticism and the fact that it’s not a real fighter role, it does look really cool ngl, even if it’s from China. Personally, I like the Scramjet Theory because it’s as close as we can get to a real TOPGUN jet
Past design stage? Lol, the one we saw is the 11th plane in their production line. They are beyond prototype stage and arming it is all that left!
"The fact that it's not a real fighter role" THE COPE IS INSANE! It's like saying the fact China is not a real nation 😂
Well I’m trying to say that F&E said that it might not be a fighter interceptor cus China already has the J-20 for that
@@ProGamerM0ve- I’ll take your “lol” and raise you a “what military experience has the PLA had this century to help develop such wunderwaffen”.
@@frankiebegbiewhy is experience needed? What is experience that helps do 6th ?
Two pilots three engines massive payload capacity. This is a bomber not a fighter.
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I guess the aliens chose China
There is a reason three-engine airplanes have gone the way of the Dodo - they historically were a way to overcome lack of suitably powerful (or reliable) engines, but as engines improved it became easier to use two bigger main engines rather that have the hassle of handling a third one, with its specific intake, air duct and maintenance access route (more so as, in this plane, said air duct is in the way of internal fuel and weapon bays).
So, it is nice to look at, but I helieve that it is just something like a tech demonstrator, built to test the general architecture, the fly by wire software and controls and maybe radar absorbing techniques beyond simple coating materials using available engines.
Meanwhile, I suppose someone in the Chinese jet industry must be working on the engines for what will be the actual plane.
The ducts aren't in the way of the weapon bays, it has S-ducts. Not to mention based on size alone it would have more fuel than any existing airframe
The science of fluid dynamics has advanced a long way in the past 3 decades. Look at the similarities in the aeronautical industry and the maritime industry and their advancements.
Been waiting for the video for 2 weeks now. Was sure its coming
China Jet Engines have 1/2 the life span, 3/4 the thrust and 2/3rds the mileage as USA Jet Engines.
Also factually China Military Radar is 7 years behind the USA radar systems.
USA Plane can see and shoot down China Jets 70 miles before China even knew they were there!
When the J20 came out, Western observers said: "Oh, this plane is too big, it's not a fighter, it's a fighter-bomber!" When the J36 came out, smart people said again: "This plane is too big, it's not a fighter, it's a bomber or a fighter-bomber" - they never reflect on whether their concepts have failed to keep up with the times.
It's said to be made of composite tofu dreg, so flight operations are limited only to non-rainy weather...
It's highly advanced radar absorbent tofu dreg
China's like, "We're totally mass-producing this plane," but in the vids, it's flying low-key close to the ground, which shows it's not all that powerful. It's still rocking those copied German wing designs
The soliloquies of ignorant clowns😂
Only China has this kind of ‘advanced tofu dregs’. And you only have toilet paper with PPT on it.
Great video, excellent animations
Finally, I have been saying for a while that this was mostly likely not the sixth gen fighter that everyone says it is and not like a medium stealth bomber similar to the US f117
We can guess, but let's not fall into the Mig-25 situation.
I mean the Mig 25 story was false though. It was built as an interceptor,it was the west that overhyped it.
Or the F117 situation
But we got the Eagle out of the MiG-25 situation.
@deanspanos8210 This is the very intelligent STEM China and not Russia
@@LanaaAmor The F-117 was and still is fantastic and very successful. Not sure what you're talking about.
The mig-25 is probably way better than this.
The West has sixth generation aircraft in development, a total of four different programs, and several prototypes have apparently flown years ago for the USAF. There’s no indication that China is ahead in development, and whether any of the sixth generation programs actually produce something sufficiently revolutionary to qualify as next generation is for posterity to decide.
I hope your comment made you feel better 😂😂😂
It's not hard to spot you clowns, always believing that it is only US that can do better, that's why US is quickly fallen behind. You’re quick to point out that the West has 3 6gen in development but you believe china doesn't have many other 6 or even 7gen in development lol.
The era of US is over gay 😂😂😂
@@Thejoeviral the US unlike china has proven its technology serval times, and it is a lot more secretive in their programs, there could be a thousand different programs and we don't know, we can't call something "the greatest fighter" just by a flyby.
You are saying there's no indication yet they have a flying prototype unlike the US. Historically speaking, yes, they've always struggled before, but nothing says that they can't catch up and surpass the west. And to my understanding it is going to happen eventually. The only question is when, will it be in 10 - 20 or 30 years. But by the looks of it it would happen earlier than everyone expects.
This can turn out to be like the russian mig 295 fox-bat good on paper but not in reality
@@jonthepolarbear Yeah. In my life I've seen an infinite amount of prototypes. That didn't actually come to fruition and weren't eventually taped even. Even those that did, I don't know a single one that had finished and delivered on it's original promised numbers ( F22 promise of close to 1k, only 200 built. B2 promise of 200 only 20 delivered etc)... same thing with SR71 many promises and not so much deliveries and a quick retirement... same with the F117. So having a great project on paper is one thing. Actually delivering it and it entering service and serving for a long time is another... It's hard to actually make a craft that would last a long time and be relevant, on top of actually building it and everything working for it...
Are we been a bit dishonest was this type of aircraft first attempted in Germany? and then Russia?and then America then along came China 😊
plane without a tail is the Vought V-173 (also called the "Flying Pancake") developed by the Vought Aircraft Companyduring World War II. In the 1970s, Russia (the Soviet Union) developed a tailless aircraft known as the T-4, also referred to as the "S-70" or the "Sukhoi T-4".
Holy shit the amount of copium and spite in this comment section is equally funny and sad 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, they'd fly the 6th Generation fighter that close to the ground, cause reverse engineering doesn't exist.
probably watched too much Tom cruise i guess😂
@@404dne The other way around, I keep seeing hate comments saying "transgender f22" and "usa doesn't have 5th gen" etc
America used to pride itself as the country to have the latest shiny new toy ahead of everybody. Now with China beating it to the punch in launching a 6th generation jet, America resorts to "we are the first one to come out with the concept, and believe us we secretly flew a prototype a few years back way ahead of the Chinese."
feel like the caret intake should have the thick sides on the inner and upper sides, instead of the outer ones. Looking forward to J-50 video
12:00 Tailess design old ? Yes. American ? LMAO HELL NO !
This is why you don't rely on AI for your research 😂.
What is your problem with it?
@@War_Thunder_Cat The problem is stated right there on the comment you replied to ....
Guess the Chinese have forgotten the saying, 'Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak'. OR have they?? 🤔