Cyclists Vs Bikers Vs ...Horses?!?!

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  • @alexfitzroy3075
    @alexfitzroy3075 3 роки тому +84

    First clip, he's in the right lane safety wise and there is no obligation to use a cycle lane. No cyclist in their right mind would cycle along that sorry excuse for a cycle path. It's too narrow with no space to share safely with pedestrians, people's gate entrances all along it, branches hanging over. All it takes is one person to walk out of their house without looking right and the cyclist could be knocked into the road potentially under a vehicle. Nice video otherwise. I hate red light jumpers too.

    • @M3ntalbug
      @M3ntalbug 3 роки тому +12

      That sidewalk was supposed to by a cycle lane? That's impressive in quite a bad way 😅

    • @paul.kimmings
      @paul.kimmings 3 роки тому +12

      Absolutely spot on there , no way would i use that unsafe cycle lane/Pavement , i like how the motorbike criticizes but overtakes the car on pedestrian crossing with double white lines approaching in the middle of the road ,the bike behind actually overtakes on double white lines.

    • @YouTube.Notiflcation
      @YouTube.Notiflcation 3 роки тому +6

      Agreed, sometimes just because it's a cycle path, doesnt mean it's a good idea, to safely use that they would have to go less than 10 miles an hour, and I'd have to slow down more to pass another bike or pedestrians or cross a road then its interrupted.. . When you add my weight, the stuff I carry and my bikes weight I'm around 100kg, going 15 miles an hour I can do some serious harm to a child, a elderly person or anybody in general.... it's just another example of cycling infrastructure being installed to check a box, the only person it benifits really is a car.

    • @tangomoggynoengi8518
      @tangomoggynoengi8518 3 роки тому +2

      @@UA-cam.Notiflcation The only type of path that pathway is any use for, is a pavement, a pedestrian walkway. There are too many hazards for it to be used in any other way. A Shared Path has an absolute maximum speed limit (so I understand and believe) of 12mph. A Segregated Path (separate sides for pedestrians and cyclists) has, again so I understand, a speed limit of 18mph. Any faster and you are obliged to use the road. Perhaps you should reread the Highway Code to polish up your knowledge of the road rules. Reading Cyclecraft could also be a good idea, as it would open your eyes, to what is and isn't advised for cyclists. It is also up to date information and as is evident, you need to be retaught what you think is right and wrong on the road...!

    • @YouTube.Notiflcation
      @YouTube.Notiflcation 3 роки тому

      @@tangomoggynoengi8518 you tagged the wrong person, I agree. Well put though

  • @andyedwards7800
    @andyedwards7800 3 роки тому +17

    Cyclist isn't in the wrong lane he's using the lane he is legally allowed to use. Most cycle lanes are designed by 4 year olds with crayons and so are not safe to use.

  • @insoft_uk
    @insoft_uk 3 роки тому +23

    First part of the video was incorrect the cyclist opted to be on the road as rightly so as that cycle path was unfit and a hazard

  • @stevenfinnegan6427
    @stevenfinnegan6427 3 роки тому +10

    I'm a cyclist in London and I hate to see this when 5 cyclist all jump the lights, no respect to other road users.

    • @slowdownmoveoversharethero9701
      @slowdownmoveoversharethero9701 3 роки тому +1

      You know London has changed its bicycle laws for sure and if a cyclist runs a red light and Hits you. You can notiy police and press charges.

  • @stevezodiac491
    @stevezodiac491 Рік тому +1

    2nd clip, the motorcyclist was putting cyclists in danger by being in the cycle lane.

  • @utrapzab
    @utrapzab 3 роки тому +7

    Cyclist isnt in the wrong lane, what a plank for stating that

  • @stevezodiac491
    @stevezodiac491 Рік тому +1

    I am a biker but you want to educate yourself. Just like cars and motorbikes don't have to use motorways all the time, cyclists don't have to use cycle paths, if they choose not to.

  • @UFA-jc8gu
    @UFA-jc8gu Рік тому +1

    Cyclist is not obligated by law to use a cycle path (most cycle lanes are not fit for purpose)

  • @PP-cm4re
    @PP-cm4re 2 роки тому +2

    First clip. The only thing the cyclist did wrong was not taking the lane at the pinch point. Thankfully the car was patient enough to wait till after to overtake. Most car drivers would just plough through not giving a f*ck about the cyclist. Which is why you take the lane.

  • @rogerfrancis65
    @rogerfrancis65 3 роки тому +10

    There's no legal obligation to use a cycle lane, its entirely optional and often they are full of road accident debris and. unusable

    • @georgebarnes8163
      @georgebarnes8163 3 роки тому +1

      plus that cycle lane was also a footpath for pedestrians who have priority on a footpath.

  • @Tomask_
    @Tomask_ 3 роки тому +3

    You really satisfy all kinds of riders with this type of compilations, keep it up! :D (I'm a cycling enthusiast).

  • @chadderz01
    @chadderz01 Рік тому +1

    She got that horse under control quick hats off to her 👏

  • @derekheeps1244
    @derekheeps1244 3 роки тому +1

    Good and considerate motorcycling around the police horses . Fair to point out that police horses undergo extensive training not to be spooked by loud or unexpected noises since they are often used for crowd control and the like .

  • @321backlip
    @321backlip 3 роки тому +3

    As a cyclist it annoys me seeing others go through lights, we all know the rules only run reds at night with no witnesses.

  • @markharvey3007
    @markharvey3007 2 роки тому +3

    step 1 horses should not be on the fucking road

  • @batmscot6149
    @batmscot6149 2 роки тому

    Well done you for giving clear instructions on how to behave when seeing 🐎 we need more calm riders like you helping rather than burning egos.

  • @gaza_
    @gaza_ 2 роки тому +2

    That’s a pavement. Not a cycle lane. The signage doesn’t make it suitable or obligatory

  • @Officialnrb
    @Officialnrb 3 роки тому +2

    Good courtesy to the horses. If cyclists were afforded the same courtesy things could be so different!

  • @paularckless7254
    @paularckless7254 3 роки тому +3

    As a cyclist and car driver one thing i hate is red light jumpers and there are just as many do it in cars as they do on bikes.

  • @derekheeps1244
    @derekheeps1244 3 роки тому +2

    Cyclists jumping red lights : any cyclist caught doing that should have the penalty ( driving ban ) applied to any driving licence they happen to hold - might just focus their minds a bit !

  • @fri3nds652
    @fri3nds652 3 роки тому +1

    imm not gona lie, as a cyclist i jump quite a few red lights but its only the one's on a single direction street made for people to cross, and ofcourse i only jump them when there arent people

    • @craiggerrard5117
      @craiggerrard5117 3 роки тому

      What a hero you are. Do you want a medal?

    • @fri3nds652
      @fri3nds652 3 роки тому

      @@craiggerrard5117 cry

    • @edj4833
      @edj4833 3 роки тому +1

      I would agree that if you carefully check there's nobody there it's not particularly dangerous, particularly if you roll through slowly. But I do think us cyclists should stick to the rules, even though there are many rules which are more designed for cars and are much more dangerous when broken by cars. Partly it doesn't look good when cyclists break rules, it leads to a lessening of the reputation of cyclists by idiots who ignore all the dangerous moves some drivers engage in and focus only on cyclists. It is important to stick to traffic rules.

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому

      The more people see you break the rules, the more they feel they can also get away with breaking the rules, so standards get worse until you (or I), as the more vulnerable road user, end up deceased under a taxi.

    • @jimenojaime7268
      @jimenojaime7268 2 роки тому

      When it's obviously clear and safe and everyone's crossed and there's no-one approaching the crossing (like in the clip) I don't really see why ALL vehicles can't cross. It's so silly and pointless when everyone's just sitting there looking at an empty road.

  • @whichypoohs
    @whichypoohs Рік тому

    Brilliant keeping back from the horses. Great work.

  • @keithcolman9868
    @keithcolman9868 3 роки тому +2

    I maintain that for the safety of road users and especially the horses, they shouldn't be allowed on main roads. There is no need for it. These days horses are only used for recreation and not for transportation.

    • @keystonedriving8180
      @keystonedriving8180 2 роки тому +2

      Outside of a handful of urban areas exactly the same argument could be used for cyclists.
      Just bear in mind that after pedestrians horses have more right to use the road than anybody else, and have had for nearly 800 years. Where I live there are very few bridle paths so horses have to use the roads to get anywhere. A bit of give and take is all that is needed.
      Of course, if you're a cyclist competing in the Tour de Finchley (other London areas are available) then none of the above applies.

    • @keithcolman9868
      @keithcolman9868 2 роки тому

      @@keystonedriving8180 then I suggest that it is wrong for horses to be kept in areas where they have to use the road. Keep them where there are the proper facilities.

    • @akamood
      @akamood  2 роки тому +1

      “Tour de Finchley” 🤣🤣

    • @zedddddful
      @zedddddful 2 роки тому

      @@keystonedriving8180 except a cycle isn't a 300kg animal that can get spooked just by general road users presence and bicycles are always under operators control horses should not be on the roads keep it in a field where it's safe and not putting the public at risk.

  • @batmscot6149
    @batmscot6149 2 роки тому

    Grey car well done you !! Saw the horses and stayed back , you were right she almost lost control of the horse.my mantra before going out cycling ....Expect the unexpected.

  • @grahambonner508
    @grahambonner508 2 роки тому

    Clip 1, I would probably use the path but I fully understand why the guy is in the road, that cycle path is a sub standard example of a cheap token gesture, a box ticking exercise. Nice one with the van by the way.

  • @tcl98387
    @tcl98387 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing how much care and consideration you exercise overtaking a horse, but how little you give to overtaking a cyclist...

    • @akamood
      @akamood  3 роки тому

      If I see cyclists struggle, I give them the same care and consideration as I do with horses. Those tend to be on Barclays/ Santander bikes.

    • @paulcooper3410
      @paulcooper3410 9 місяців тому

      I thought he was being very careful around cyclists
      He left enough room in the one clip he was overtaking a cyclist, and the rest of the time, the cyclists were overtaking him

  • @Leandro_F_R
    @Leandro_F_R Рік тому

    0:19 One question: even with the demarcation that bicycles can ride on the sidewalk, the fact that he is pedaling on the street, would that be wrong?

    • @akamood
      @akamood  Рік тому

      Safer for the cyclist to use the sidewalk if slow (regardless of condition of sidewalk).
      If cyclist is fast however, better for the cyclist to be on the street, if the condition of the sidewalk is bad.

  • @slowdownmoveoversharethero9701
    @slowdownmoveoversharethero9701 3 роки тому

    London, etc has started doing enforcement with Horses where Police go undercover looking for motorist who don't follow the rules when horses are present and then their some that will be in uniform and do enforcement as normal.

  • @Dave-bu6bc
    @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому +1

    Forget slowing down for horses, that just gives 'em a chance to get to you. Pass them as fast and as wide as possible. If necessary, ignore red lights to get away from the horse. Your priority should be to stay out of kicking range.
    Many years ago, mid 1980s, me and my friend Ken were stopped at a road-works temporary lights. Not revving or messing about, just waiting for the lights to change, Ken on a GP100 and me on an RD125LC, both on standard pipes so not overly loud. Horse and rider came up behind us, horse didn't like the sound of the bikes, kicked Ken right off his bike, bent the frame, destroyed his back, as a result he's spent most of his adult life in a wheelchair. I rode my bike into the hole in the road to get out of the way of the horse, dented the tank and the exhaust on a 6 day old bike. Horses should not be on the road.
    You can't get in or out of my village without playing "dodge the horse shit". Dog owners mostly manage to pick up after their pets, horse owners leave it to be a road hazard. They don't care that it's illegal to deposit debris upon the highway (S148 or S161 Highways Act 1980), don't give a damn about our safety but expect us to slow right down and endanger ourselves for their safety. I've even had to emergency stop to avoid a scooterist sliding along on his ass after he'd hit a giant horse egg and fallen off, and then had to call him an ambulance because he broke his wrist in the fall. Horses really shouldn't be on the road. If you don't have somewhere off-road to ride your horse then don't get one, same as a go-kart or a motocross bike.

    • @akamood
      @akamood  2 роки тому +2

      Wow..!!!
      That is some great story about you and your friend. So sorry to hear what happened to you guys!
      You are also right about the poo. I was impressed when I rode to Ypres (Belgium) in November 2021 and saw a group of horse riders with a support van cleaning up the mess behind them.
      Elsewhere I have seen a bag been attached to collect, but mainly when the horse pulls a carriage.
      I don’t understand why they don’t do any of this in the UK..
      Anyone out there knows why horse riders are not fined for polluting, similar to dog owners ???

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому +1

      @@akamood The only reason I can see that they don't get fined is that horse owners are overrepresented in the judiciary, it's the elites and the "horsey set". British Equestrian Society website even used to make the claim that horse owners were exempt from having to pick up their mess, but it didn't quote the law that makes them exempt because there is no such law. I've done quite a bit of research on this, even looked into case law, the most "extreme" prosecution I can find for depositing debris was a lad on a scooter who spilled half a bag of cheetos (corn snacks) from his pocket whilst riding. If you get fined for a harmless hand-full of cheetos it makes no sense that you don't get fined for a 20 pound pile of slippery dung.

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 2 роки тому +1

      Horses should only be allowed on the road with special permission for special events with a road closure in place so that other traffic does not interfere this could apply to something like a wedding, funeral or other big event you might wish to have horses at otherwise they should not be on the road and only to be ridden on private land. Horses have no lights, no brakes, and the rider has no control if they get spooked, they leave horse shit all over the road as stated already and are a hazard to vunerable user and even for a car driver they are going to cost them a fortune in repairs if it kicks their car and could even write a car off, also I don't believe horses are insured to ride on the road in the case where they damage another vehicle so its the motorist expected to front the cost of repair I would assume or take a hit on their insurance.

    • @ghz24
      @ghz24 2 роки тому

      @@gravemind6536 Nope have to share the road with horses luckily very few riders have a desire to use the road.
      In rural areas they ride on the grass next to the road anyway and on rare occasions when they are unable to avoid using the road you should deal with it.
      They can't kick your car if you don't get close enough.
      Riding on pavement is hard on their legs and hooves so very few rider want to be on pavement any longer than needed.
      Cart/carriage horses are shod with special shoes to help with grip.

    • @DS-um9hi
      @DS-um9hi Рік тому

      Poor glassback Ken

  • @WINDAKLEENA2866
    @WINDAKLEENA2866 Рік тому +1

    cyclist on the wrong lane..... where. the second biker overtook on a solid line and the first one did a dangerous overtake as the car was about to pass

  • @zedddddful
    @zedddddful 2 роки тому

    Horses should be subject to the same rules as cars if you can't control them and they cause a danger to other road users that should be riding without due care or if anyone is hurt dangerous riding and subject to the same penalties as motorists this is usually a 300-400kg animal a kick or stomp could be fatal if you can't be safe on them get off the road.

  • @paulcooper3410
    @paulcooper3410 9 місяців тому

    3:23 either they liked the sound or they liked how they caught up with a motorbike even with all the extra power it has
    Cyclists might be faster, but at least a motorbike sounds better

  • @mintywebb
    @mintywebb 2 роки тому

    First one cyclist was in the correct lane.

  • @Officialnrb
    @Officialnrb 2 роки тому

    Did you want something out of the boot of the car I first clip?

  • @woowah32
    @woowah32 2 роки тому

    Horses on the road are such a massive pain in the arse. It’s astonishing the riders take them out on todays busy roads.🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @redlaurieyellow
    @redlaurieyellow 2 роки тому

    A bicycle is not a car. They can jump red lights.

  • @canadiancatgreen
    @canadiancatgreen 2 роки тому

    suspicious he put the ... in title

  • @richardoakley8800
    @richardoakley8800 2 роки тому

    Put number plates on bicycles and the government would make millions in fines

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому

      Put number plates on all road users, otherwise scofflaw bicyclists will just switch to something that isn't a bicycle and continue to be scofflaws. Equal rules for all, including fines and bans, for everything from a truck driver to a pedestrian.

    • @richardoakley8800
      @richardoakley8800 2 роки тому

      From looking at July's Road surveying if cyclists had number plate it would Rased 80000 pounds a day in red light violations alone. 15000 pounds a day for illegally cycling on the footway and 7000 pounds a day in no right turn violations.

  • @spana123321
    @spana123321 3 роки тому +1

    First clip, it’s not a legal requirement for a cyclist to use a cycle path and that was a cycle path on the footpath also have you seen some of the half hearted attempts by councils around the country as regards cycle paths?

  • @tmahe28
    @tmahe28 2 роки тому

    It’s only a matter of time before cyclists require registration. They are out of control.

  • @Gusto20000
    @Gusto20000 2 роки тому

    How are you not tempted to mess up with those horses every time you meet them on the road?

    • @ModgeDonkey
      @ModgeDonkey 2 роки тому +2

      Probably because he’s not a moron… only a complete simpleton would intentionally mess with horse riders

  • @x66Hawk66x
    @x66Hawk66x 2 роки тому

    Police horses are generally very well trained and disciplined, still good to precede with caution none the less. The first horse on the other hand Ideally needs better trained, horses like that are pretty dangerous to both rider and other people. She pretty much lost control of that horse and nearly slammed into that car.

    • @riikkka1
      @riikkka1 2 роки тому

      I agree. But then again it´s also the drivers fault. He accelerated witch caused the horse to spooke. I´m a horseback rider myself and it makes me so mad when people do that. I mean I don´t ride on bublic roads but still, if you saw a moose or a deer on the rode, you would probably stop and go around it slowly. Most of the time when people see horses they don´t care. It´s quite the opposite, people accelerate to get past the horse riders just to be assholes.

    • @x66Hawk66x
      @x66Hawk66x 2 роки тому

      @@riikkka1 The horse was already spooked at the sight parked bikes. most drivers do care. probs 1 in 10 don't.

    • @riikkka1
      @riikkka1 2 роки тому

      @@x66Hawk66x you mean bikers? cause I wasn´t talking about bikers, I was taking about cars and bigger cars. So far I have seen very few people who wait for riders. In cities people tend to wait more patiently. Meaby because of more witnessess??

    • @x66Hawk66x
      @x66Hawk66x 2 роки тому

      @@riikkka1 Wow splitting hairs bikes, bikers whatever.... You can clearly see the horse was trying to move away from the motorcyclists while being parked. The sight of the motorcycles spooked the horse, not that car. I live in a rural area with plenty of horses, and I rarely see people driving past them in a manner that's inconsiderate it has nothing to do with witnesses. The car driver could have done differently and stopped on sighting the scared and out of control horse but that's about it.

    • @ghz24
      @ghz24 2 роки тому

      The way police horses get well trained is experiencing the environment they are expected to work in. (It's part temperament as well).
      It could also be the rider, as the rider you become both lead stallion and mare.
      If the rider is afraid of the situation the horse picks up on the fear but thinks it's fear of whatever it's noticed.
      It can act as a vicious cycle.
      If I can hear the fear in her voice then so can the horse not to mention what her legs and rein hands are saying to the horse.
      We used to warn new riders of this before rides.

  • @ThatGoth
    @ThatGoth 3 роки тому

    0:06 - Cyclist is not in the wrong lane, he's just choosing not to use the dangerous shared footpath which is his right.
    0:31 - Kids an idiot!
    1:10 - Cyclists are idiots!
    2:48 - Good overtake and exactly how you should overtake a cyclist or motorbike too.
    3:10 - Multiple cyclists are idiots!

  • @jonathanmeehan4400
    @jonathanmeehan4400 3 роки тому +1

    Horses shouldn't be on the rd

  • @MrBobchat
    @MrBobchat Рік тому +1

    Cyclist NOT in the wrong lane. You don't know enough about this to be making videos.

    • @akamood
      @akamood  Рік тому

      Thanks Kevin. Why do you think this? Safer for a cyclist on dedicated lanes, no? Otherwise why do they invest all this money doing them and narrowing down the already narrow roads?

    • @MrBobchat
      @MrBobchat Рік тому

      @@akamood Much of the time they are placed without any real planning or thought. Also a cyclist has no legal obligation to use them so your assertion that they are in the 'wrong' lane is clearly and demonstrably incorrect. You should know this by now as many, people have already pointed it out to you. But if you don't believe them then read your copy of the highway code and it will tell you the same thing. Cyclists are not obligated to use cycle lanes.
      Often the cycle lanes are actually LESS safe than the road route. Drivers forego giving them enough room as they think that as long as there is a line between the car and bike then it is enough.
      The fact that you are doubling down on your ignorance says a lot about your attitude. I sincerely hope that most drivers are not as ignorant of the rules as you are or as belligerent in the face of conflicting evidence. You very much need to educate yourself.
      Why does it even matter if the car had to slow down for a split second? It doesn't, it's just entitlement speaking.

    • @akamood
      @akamood  Рік тому

      Hey Kevin,
      Thanks for sharing your views on this.

    • @MrBobchat
      @MrBobchat Рік тому

      @@akamood You are more than welcome. I hope you take heed

  • @007floppyboy
    @007floppyboy 3 роки тому

    first few seconds, biker tailgates a car then overtakes on zig zags.
    next few seconds, kids on bikes will always pull a wheelie.
    horses, mad as a horse,.
    cyclists, 6 morons
    good call.
    wide berth and pass slowly, also cyclists.

    • @georgebarnes8163
      @georgebarnes8163 3 роки тому

      the biker never overtook on zig zags and even if he did it is perfectly legal to do so.

    • @007floppyboy
      @007floppyboy 3 роки тому

      @@georgebarnes8163 he over took on zig zags @0:16, and rule 191

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому

      191.. "You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians." At the time of the overtake, the vehicle nearest the crossing was either the motorbike behind him or maybe even the one behind that, both the camera bike and car were well beyond the crossing.

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому

      @@007floppyboy I think you need to actually read 191 again, rather than just churning out a rule number. It says you must not overtake the vehicle nearest the crossing. He didn't. By the time he overtook the car, the vehicle nearest the crossing was one of the other motorbikes behind him. Even if they had not existed, his own motorbike was between the car and the crossing and was therefore nearer to the crossing than the car.

  • @spitfire4206
    @spitfire4206 2 роки тому

    fellow motorcyclists, what a joke have you been to box hill its been spoilt by bloody cyclists why are cyclists given so much for free .

  • @syedhiballah9368
    @syedhiballah9368 3 роки тому +3

    Horses on the rd is stupid

    • @georgebarnes8163
      @georgebarnes8163 3 роки тому +2

      That is what they were built for.

    • @ThatGoth
      @ThatGoth 3 роки тому

      @@georgebarnes8163 Indeed, they were build for horses and carriages, then many years later they got rid of the cobbles and made them flat because of cyclists... So without horses we wouldn't have roads and without cyclists we wouldn't have flat roads.

    • @andrewthomas2406
      @andrewthomas2406 2 роки тому

      @@ThatGoth and without cyclist we would get about quicker in our vehicles.

    • @ThatGoth
      @ThatGoth 2 роки тому

      @@andrewthomas2406 On cobbles? I doubt it.

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThatGoth They were built for people, by people. Without horses, people would still have moved around. Some parts of the world never had horses as a primary means of transportation due to inhospitable climate or due to other animals being used as beasts of burden, but they still got roads.

  • @philw5448
    @philw5448 3 роки тому

    The bloke who made this video needs to get out more 🤣
    Seriously the part where its showing how to slow down for a horse when he just slowed down because he had to stop for a red light anyway 😂 is it parody account?

    • @philw5448
      @philw5448 3 роки тому +1

      Teaching people to suck eggs.. yet he also points out some totally incorrect information such as cyclists should use a poorly maintained sidewalk instead of a road.. its a cyclists judgement to use one, absolutely no rule anywhere says you have to!

  • @andrewthomas2406
    @andrewthomas2406 2 роки тому

    All thar road wasted on cycle wa***rs. give it back to vehicles

    • @Dave-bu6bc
      @Dave-bu6bc 2 роки тому +1

      they are vehicles, you goof!