I think person centred is all about the challenge. Clients come to us because they can’t find the answers on Google and their friends won’t challenge them like we will. It’s about pacing, about empathy vs advanced empathy. Well done chaps, great series of videos.
I’m currently on a level 3 counselling diploma and my tutor recommended I watch you guys and I just want to thank you both for your great, supportive and educational work videos.
I asked my therapist about this, . I asked, if my mother came to you and told you about her sensitive, paranoid, emotional, dramatic daughter (everything that my mother thinks I am) would you be as kind to her as you are to me? My therapist was very kind to me and very validating and it made me wonder. Do I deserve to be validated? Do some people go to therapy looking for validation and end up being challenged instead? (i didn't feel that that was my experience.)
I don't really appreciate the nervous laugh example... I see how it could open up some exploration but I think there's an implication that there's something wrong with nervous laughing or that there's a better way to present, or certainly, that the therapist thinks there's a better way to present(ie congruently) but that's based on the assumption that it is incongruent...but if the client is nervous then laughing nervously is perfectly congruent. And aside from that, there is a judgment implied that it is somehow not ok to be incongruent in therapy, and a shift of focus to the therapists expectations and wants around the therapeutic process, rather than the clients natural way of showing up and processing things. I do think challenging clients can be helpful but I guess it is more of an academic disagreement I have as to whether this could fall under PCT. I think it's a miss because it involves the potential perception of judgement and expectation on the therapists part.
@@suzanne9821 I agree on the context you presented. There is always that what if the client isn’t nervous and may find the situation funny. I think it comes down to the therapist to find out where the client is coming from when responding in such a way. Our assumptions aren’t always correct.
Beloved what does challenge means? it certainly doesn't mean that you insult or presume. I think it should only ever be positive such as if the person insist they are worthless, you may then challenge this. i had a client once who felt she did not achieve anything in her life. Her partner was always telling her she was nothing. I challenge this by pointing out all the things that showed her achievements. Sadly some people use challenge in a negative way, this will never heal anyone,
I realise this is a year old, but I wanted to point out the differences in volume. They make it a little uncomfortable to listen. If I increase the volume it makes one too loud, but if I decrease the volume it makes it difficult to hear the other. I hope this has been fixed in your newer videos.
What about the client challenging the therapist because I've had to do it over many things like the phone ringing numerous in session. Constant pings on the computer. I'm sent to the wrong office, and I see her cars not there, so I have to text to ask, am I supposed to stay where my reminder said to go. She does, says things that r not right and maybe someone else's info too, which has been triggering. And so much more. She usually gets defensive or laughs it off.
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I think person centred is all about the challenge. Clients come to us because they can’t find the answers on Google and their friends won’t challenge them like we will. It’s about pacing, about empathy vs advanced empathy. Well done chaps, great series of videos.
I’m currently on a level 3 counselling diploma and my tutor recommended I watch you guys and I just want to thank you both for your great, supportive and educational work videos.
Love the conversation, very useful insights for a new counsellor. :)
This was very good and helpful thank you
Great examples. Awesomely helpful discussion. THANK YOU BOTH
Wonderful lecture. Thank you so much you both.
I really enjoyed, but when you said about the giggle, what perceptive you are talking about?
I asked my therapist about this, . I asked, if my mother came to you and told you about her sensitive, paranoid, emotional, dramatic daughter (everything that my mother thinks I am) would you be as kind to her as you are to me? My therapist was very kind to me and very validating and it made me wonder. Do I deserve to be validated? Do some people go to therapy looking for validation and end up being challenged instead? (i didn't feel that that was my experience.)
Probably the challenge in this context may be about you believing what your mother says about you, the script you are questioning in your own mind?
Is the download still available pls?
I don't really appreciate the nervous laugh example... I see how it could open up some exploration but I think there's an implication that there's something wrong with nervous laughing or that there's a better way to present, or certainly, that the therapist thinks there's a better way to present(ie congruently) but that's based on the assumption that it is incongruent...but if the client is nervous then laughing nervously is perfectly congruent. And aside from that, there is a judgment implied that it is somehow not ok to be incongruent in therapy, and a shift of focus to the therapists expectations and wants around the therapeutic process, rather than the clients natural way of showing up and processing things. I do think challenging clients can be helpful but I guess it is more of an academic disagreement I have as to whether this could fall under PCT. I think it's a miss because it involves the potential perception of judgement and expectation on the therapists part.
@@suzanne9821 I agree on the context you presented. There is always that what if the client isn’t nervous and may find the situation funny. I think it comes down to the therapist to find out where the client is coming from when responding in such a way. Our assumptions aren’t always correct.
Do you guys do podcasts??
We do you can listen here counsellingtutor.com/podcast/
I found it and signed up thank you!! Hope to learn some useful tips while I’m on my trainee counsellor journey. 👌🏼😊
@@carolineburgess1557 You will!
Beloved what does challenge means? it certainly doesn't mean that you insult or presume. I think it should only ever be positive such as if the person insist they are worthless, you may then challenge this. i had a client once who felt she did not achieve anything in her life. Her partner was always telling her she was nothing. I challenge this by pointing out all the things that showed her achievements. Sadly some people use challenge in a negative way, this will never heal anyone,
I realise this is a year old, but I wanted to point out the differences in volume. They make it a little uncomfortable to listen. If I increase the volume it makes one too loud, but if I decrease the volume it makes it difficult to hear the other. I hope this has been fixed in your newer videos.
What about the client challenging the therapist because I've had to do it over many things like the phone ringing numerous in session. Constant pings on the computer. I'm sent to the wrong office, and I see her cars not there, so I have to text to ask, am I supposed to stay where my reminder said to go. She does, says things that r not right and maybe someone else's info too, which has been triggering. And so much more. She usually gets defensive or laughs it off.
Way too much talking and not enough advice. All your content is too much talk and not enough meat.