It worked out as planned indeed, but margins were slim so I am not certain I´d attempt to land there again :) There are several realy good options to the north (in the valley up from the lake) but I was hoping for a thermal along the sunfacing ridge. As the field used was deemed okay I stuck to ut and landed when required :)
There are powerlines running diagonally across that field, roughly 1/3 into it from the north (final) side. Wind was light so I could probably have landed on opposing side (with light tailwind). However I chose to stay committed to the field used, but it did have less margins than predicted from the air.
@@soaringhal Thanks for explanation, I had the same thought. In particular, because you'd be landing into rising terrain instead of towards the water. Anyway, very good flying, highly educational video, and well done!
@@basti4296 - landing into rising terrain will almost every time be better, because your roll-out will be shorter (trading kinetic energy (speed) for potential energy (elevation). Note, that this effect will be reduced a little due to carrying a slightly higher airspeed for the flare as the ground ascend. Here is such a landing I did a couple of years back - ua-cam.com/video/CSUJKx2XKL4/v-deo.html I carried extra speed for the flare so I not only could reduce sink-through for the touchdown but also carry enough energy to "climb" to match the ascent/gradient.
At the end it sorted out that's the most important part of a flight, well done. One thing I have always in mind never go back on a route where you had a minus on the vario. At 2:50 you had a huge field in front of you along the road and river, what was the reason not to land there? Most of the times obstacles are poorly visible on video, that limits drastically the number of landing spots to choose from. Happy flying and must say, the scenery is amazing.
That larger field have power lines running diagonally across 1/3 into the field lengthwise, if coming in with headwind that day. I felt the chosen one was "better" but it was more marginal than anticipated. But I managed to control energy and make a precise touchdown which made it work :) Thank you for commenting and yes I agree, the scenery is amazing! We also often have brilliant visibility, with up towards 250-300km clear line of sight :D
@Folken Van Vanel - thank you for dropping in a comment :) In hindsight I probably would have used the @3:00 field instead but due to power wires I felt the selected one as safer (from the air). It was however a little more tight than anticipated so if I needed to do it again the @3:00 would be my choice. The only reason I stayed in that particular area was due to being too low to effectively go thermal hunting deeper into the terrain, and hoping for a save at the sunfacing terrain which did have this field right below it.
Nice one. I'm impressed that it worked out. As we say in aviation: always leave yourself an out. I know the glide is incredible with these ships, but we can't exactly just land anywhere. It's worth noting that difficult zones for possible landings should be flown as high as possible when crossing them as opposed to being there while looking for lift. Stop early to climb to make these crossings of difficult landing areas as high as possible so it isn't an issue. Slower? Absolutely. But you'll always have safe landables in reach. As you said: you probably wouldn't land there again. I'm over here on UA-cam. Not judging at all except that it was a great spot landing without horrendous departures of airspeed control. I think you did great. It's up to you to self evaluate, which I have noted you are. Keep em coming. New subscriber!
Thank you very much for commenting and subscribing! Its a constant balance between desired achivements, available options, the unknown and what is needed to be done. I had other options available to me, but I did not find any reason to discard the one I eventually used - but I did overestimate the margins it provided. Hope to bring more interesting content :D
No the field was perfectly level with no gradient at all. It was tight, I am not certain I would choose the same field again as missing the target landing spot by 2-3s could easily eat up the remaining distance for rollo-out. It did work out exactly as planned, but the margins were slim. (note to self :) )
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment :) This is in Norway and Seljord is where I landed. I fly from the airport ENNO (ICAO Airport code) which is one of the more active regions in soutern Norway and we operate the glider center there :)
Valid observation, and yes it was indeed a walking path which was not so apparent from the air. I was thinking farmer / access road at the time. It was also raised perhaps half a foot vs the farmland itself.
Curiosity, but find that two strings show minor yaw more precise/visually detecable compared to a single, atleast with the peripheral vision. Two who line up = no yaw. Should one also fall off I still have one, so there is an element of redundancy.
@@nicolasvillanueva7241 I will never be fully trained :) 500hrs as PIC and 400 landings to date with 100% success rate ;) Granted, only 5-6 of those were at an unplanned destination :)
Respect
No damage, no injuries. Nicely done in difficult circumstances. Its always easier when sat in an armchair.
It worked out as planned indeed, but margins were slim so I am not certain I´d attempt to land there again :) There are several realy good options to the north (in the valley up from the lake) but I was hoping for a thermal along the sunfacing ridge. As the field used was deemed okay I stuck to ut and landed when required :)
Field that you flew over at 3.00 besides the river and road looked a better option - but I wasn't there and videos often hide things.
There are powerlines running diagonally across that field, roughly 1/3 into it from the north (final) side. Wind was light so I could probably have landed on opposing side (with light tailwind).
However I chose to stay committed to the field used, but it did have less margins than predicted from the air.
@@soaringhal Thanks for explanation, I had the same thought. In particular, because you'd be landing into rising terrain instead of towards the water. Anyway, very good flying, highly educational video, and well done!
@@basti4296 - landing into rising terrain will almost every time be better, because your roll-out will be shorter (trading kinetic energy (speed) for potential energy (elevation). Note, that this effect will be reduced a little due to carrying a slightly higher airspeed for the flare as the ground ascend. Here is such a landing I did a couple of years back - ua-cam.com/video/CSUJKx2XKL4/v-deo.html
I carried extra speed for the flare so I not only could reduce sink-through for the touchdown but also carry enough energy to "climb" to match the ascent/gradient.
Way to stick it in there!
Good A/S control and flying skills!!
Thank you, my plan worked out - but I will opt for better margins next time :)
Very nicely done considering the size of that field... I guess You had some headwind as You flew away from the slope that failed You so misserably...👍
At the end it sorted out that's the most important part of a flight, well done.
One thing I have always in mind never go back on a route where you had a minus on the vario.
At 2:50 you had a huge field in front of you along the road and river, what was the reason not to land there?
Most of the times obstacles are poorly visible on video, that limits drastically the number of landing spots to choose from.
Happy flying and must say, the scenery is amazing.
That larger field have power lines running diagonally across 1/3 into the field lengthwise, if coming in with headwind that day. I felt the chosen one was "better" but it was more marginal than anticipated. But I managed to control energy and make a precise touchdown which made it work :) Thank you for commenting and yes I agree, the scenery is amazing! We also often have brilliant visibility, with up towards
250-300km clear line of sight :D
Nice one. Visually i'd have gone for @3:00 but i wasn't flying. And you can use the LS7 again, so great landing. :)
"always behave in a way, so that you can discuss in the evening at the beer what the others would have done better." ;)
@Folken Van Vanel - thank you for dropping in a comment :) In hindsight I probably would have used the @3:00 field instead but due to power wires I felt the selected one as safer (from the air). It was however a little more tight than anticipated so if I needed to do it again the @3:00 would be my choice. The only reason I stayed in that particular area was due to being too low to effectively go thermal hunting deeper into the terrain, and hoping for a save at the sunfacing terrain which did have this field right below it.
Nice one. I'm impressed that it worked out. As we say in aviation: always leave yourself an out. I know the glide is incredible with these ships, but we can't exactly just land anywhere. It's worth noting that difficult zones for possible landings should be flown as high as possible when crossing them as opposed to being there while looking for lift. Stop early to climb to make these crossings of difficult landing areas as high as possible so it isn't an issue. Slower? Absolutely. But you'll always have safe landables in reach. As you said: you probably wouldn't land there again. I'm over here on UA-cam. Not judging at all except that it was a great spot landing without horrendous departures of airspeed control. I think you did great. It's up to you to self evaluate, which I have noted you are. Keep em coming. New subscriber!
Thank you very much for commenting and subscribing!
Its a constant balance between desired achivements, available options, the unknown and what is needed to be done. I had other options available to me, but I did not find any reason to discard the one I eventually used - but I did overestimate the margins it provided. Hope to bring more interesting content :D
That looked very tight! Well done. It looked like the slight uphill gradient helped keep the ground run short?
No the field was perfectly level with no gradient at all. It was tight, I am not certain I would choose the same field again as missing the target landing spot by 2-3s could easily eat up the remaining distance for rollo-out. It did work out exactly as planned, but the margins were slim. (note to self :) )
You did a good job there in difficult circumstances, what's the nav computer you are using?
Openvario
Roel answered already but is correct, I am using a 7" Openvario unit running XCSoar.
Outstanding off-field landing - well done! Where is the site (country and city)? Looks beautiful.
Thank you for taking the time to write a comment :) This is in Norway and Seljord is where I landed. I fly from the airport ENNO (ICAO Airport code) which is one of the more active regions in soutern Norway and we operate the glider center there :)
Was that a walking path right at the point of touchdown? Hard to see from the air but would make me a bit nervous.
Valid observation, and yes it was indeed a walking path which was not so apparent from the air. I was thinking farmer / access road at the time. It was also raised perhaps half a foot vs the farmland itself.
Why do you have two strings, and how do you use them?
Curiosity, but find that two strings show minor yaw more precise/visually detecable compared to a single, atleast with the peripheral vision. Two who line up = no yaw.
Should one also fall off I still have one, so there is an element of redundancy.
@@soaringhal Thanks for answer! And what about AOA string on the side? Do you really ever use it?
@@mazicort_ Another "curious" factor :) I have used it but its not important to me.
Totaly unprofessional in my opinion. Better get some more training hours.
I evaluate and learn with every flight.
And you would do what differently? Or more likely you're just a troll...
please elaborate?
I think he is a highly trainned pilot. There is no way to land in those circinstamces if you are not well trained.
@@nicolasvillanueva7241 I will never be fully trained :) 500hrs as PIC and 400 landings to date with 100% success rate ;)
Granted, only 5-6 of those were at an unplanned destination :)