There's a lot of competition for those second two categories and I think you'll have to fly a lot more badly to be in with a chance of taking the lead. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video. Makes me nostalgic for NZ. And..... a bit sad. I started glider lessons in 1982 but then left NZ for the wider world and have barely been back.
Hmmm I think the second was worse than the third, in terms of perceived frustration and lack of checks. What is not clear, is why for the third landing, you did not choose a field that allowed landing into the wind. There seemed to be plenty of options...
Was going for the easier retrieve, right next to the main road. Paddock was easily big enough for the light down wind. The second was the worst for sure.
Well, well - thanks for sharing! I will use your video in my XC couses, as it allows for plenty of reflections and discussions. Please let me just make one or two littel points: In #3 you show that you don't have a structured checklist before Approach (you mention the landing gear twice and in different wordings). Then: How come you need do be able to answer your phone while piloting? It takes just part of your front view, distracts you etc. I keep the business where it belongs to and in the cockpit there's no space for anything else! Happy (out-)landings!
Thanks for your comments, I think its the last one where I mention the gear a couple of times, I've put it down, gone through the checks then the S100 has mentioned it, so check it again to be sure. I've got a bit paranoid about the gear having done a wheels up and had it collapse twice. I use the phone for internet access to view the glider tracker and have another airspace app (AvPlan). Also a backup incase of a radio failure. Its not a visual problem from my eyes position in the glider, might look different from the cameras position.
How have the locals responded to a glider in their field? I've had probably around 100 outlandings on my HG and only one negative experience. I would assume generally it's still novelty / positive response? But of course it's also much more disruptive and involved.
Hi Anton. Yip, bit more at stake with a sailplane outlanding eh? Impressed at your ability to get it into small paddocks. Have to admit I was a little nervious watching :-)
Hi Grant, To be honest the first outstanding was adrenaline filled, however I'm much more comfortable out landing a glider now than a HG, having glide angle control makes all the difference.
Very interesting to watch and very smooth camera work. As a matter of interest what camera are you using that seems to keep the horizon stable but the cockpit is floating in the video.
It doesn't seem that bad to me. I would only recommend to apply more brakes as soon as you have touched down. You never know precisely what is in the filed and the more you run in the grass, the more chance you have to eventually hit something. It once happened to me, I let my glider run unnecessarily and I got a flat tire.
Yes agree. The first one I did. The second I let it roll just a little bit onto flatter ground so it wouldn't roll back, it did a bit anyway. The third I let it roll as I had been circling over the field and had a very good look so let the final slower roll take me closer to the farmers house. The last was the home strip which is in good condition. On a separate note it doesn't pay to use full brake all the time if landing on an airfield so as not to wear the brakes out unnecessarily. I had a cable brake on one out landing requiring a ground loop 30m from a fence to stop going through it. There's always a lot to consider on an out landing, every one is different.
The ugly was not a patch on my worst glider outlanding! Or my second worst! Maybe not even my third worst! But then I have managed even worse back in hang gliding days inluding but not limited to: landing on a large flat rounabout in the UK, landing on a cow (she manouvered under me (thats my story anyway) top landing on the roof rack of a parked vintage car!
I just hope none of my neighbours heard me sitting alone at my computer, laughing uncontrollably... brilliant! Now if only you had your landings on video.
Hey I think one thing would be better to do. Dont fly low Level turns with airbrakes. With it you put one more point to do a failure at low level in the landing routine. There is more then one soinning because of that.
Considering they only add about 2 knots to the stall speed, anything over 50knots has plenty of safety margin. See ua-cam.com/video/Y-48aEuUbjs/v-deo.html
They weren't too bad, maybe less mucking around and more normal circuit on the bad and the ugly, but otherwise down safe, and good fields. The mission impossible ringtone made the third one seem way more dramatic lol well done ignoring it.
Need to be carefull that its not you doing it though !! Mesing with brakes, flaps gear and trim can upset the glider to the pont that it trips the vario.. You might be rising but thats under your own energy, short lived then you circle thinking might be somthing until youve lost another 150 feet.. When you decided its time to land land.. Otherwise it reinforces bad habits which will get you into trouble some day..
Needs to be more ugly to be truly ugly.. We have kids jumping their bikes off mountains and people branding themselves with lasers.. Competition is tough in the ugly genre. 🤕
According to the POH of an ASK21 spoilers increase the stall speed of 3 kmh. However I agree awareness of decreased aerodynamic capabilities is definitely great!
The answer is don't be low and slow (Anton isn't) then if your speed control is ok you are safe, and if it isn't then not using your brakes in turns will help to some extent because it makes speed control easier.
ON #3 the antiamerican farmer didn't shoot at you (LOL) although you used his property without permission .What a bad example those permissive librul foreigners are giving to the world .
why? you don`t seem to be a sailplane pilot. These outfield landings can happen to anyone. You may out land 5 days in a row ....or you may get a full year without any outlanding😉 this is part of the sport (hobby😋)
@@ionutpatrascu2296 I am a licensed glider pilot for 40 years and unless you are doing a cross country, this should not happen. Trespassing on other peoples property and possibly ruining crops is not right.
@@garyfischer4357 indeed outlanding should not happen from traffic pattern flights, but as you leave the airfield cone of safety, it can happen anytime, multiple times a week. I also had bad days, 3 outs in a row in cross country championships, shit happens.. cheers 😉
Gary, of course these are all from XC flights, if you don't land out occasionally you aren't trying. NZ landowners are very cool about this sort of thing, in fact they seem to love it.
the ringtone at the third landing matched so well lmao
Haha, dude, the phone song on the ugly landing was pure gold!!!!😂😂
That has got to be the best themesong for an outlanding
That Mission Impossible Theme was just right on time. Thanks for sharing!
Perfect Music at the perfect time in the perfect situation👍🏽😂
Great video and interesting outlandings. Cheers!
Yours are always good, thanks for watching.
From my perspective as a gliderpilot too none of theese landings were bad or ugly. You worked it out safe and perfect. Congratulation!
Thanks, the second had the potential to go pear shaped, looks good when it works out.
There's a lot of competition for those second two categories and I think you'll have to fly a lot more badly to be in with a chance of taking the lead. Thanks for sharing.
Hahaaa 🤣
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! If you can use the plane again it's an excellent one ;-)
Mission Impossible music at landing time 😄 perfect! Nice video btw!
LOL, I have the same ring tone myself. That's hilarious and kind of fitting.
Thank you, Anton, for sharing this video. Some moments were quite scary.
3 landings. No ground strikes. I call it 3 good. Happy flying!
Thanks for the video. Makes me nostalgic for NZ. And..... a bit sad. I started glider lessons in 1982 but then left NZ for the wider world and have barely been back.
Yeah gotta be awesome landing too the sound track for mission impossible
Props to the cameraman for filming and playing the flute, Respect!!
I always wonder if the land owners ever get grumpy with you or if there's a particular field that gets a lot of attention?
Your making an out landing with a tailwind and Mission Impossible music fills the cockpit. How can you *not* be distracted!? 😆
Wow, that was amazing, felt like I was landing it myself. Fabulous
Walked away - CHECK
Glider can be flown again - CHECK
No repair bill - CHECK
I classify those as three perfect landings.
Hmmm I think the second was worse than the third, in terms of perceived frustration and lack of checks. What is not clear, is why for the third landing, you did not choose a field that allowed landing into the wind. There seemed to be plenty of options...
That's also my opinion.
Was going for the easier retrieve, right next to the main road. Paddock was easily big enough for the light down wind. The second was the worst for sure.
Airfields are everywhere. Only control towers are missing...
Well done.
Now that you out landing confidence you probably find you will get home more often.
First: What an exciting beautiful landscape!
Yes. Very scenic, thermaling at 400 feet AGL
on your landing checks don’t forgot the mission impossible theme song. Very important!!
Well, well - thanks for sharing! I will use your video in my XC couses, as it allows for plenty of reflections and discussions. Please let me just make one or two littel points:
In #3 you show that you don't have a structured checklist before Approach (you mention the landing gear twice and in different wordings). Then: How come you need do be able to answer your phone while piloting? It takes just part of your front view, distracts you etc. I keep the business where it belongs to and in the cockpit there's no space for anything else!
Happy (out-)landings!
Thanks for your comments,
I think its the last one where I mention the gear a couple of times, I've put it down, gone through the checks then the S100 has mentioned it, so check it again to be sure. I've got a bit paranoid about the gear having done a wheels up and had it collapse twice.
I use the phone for internet access to view the glider tracker and have another airspace app (AvPlan). Also a backup incase of a radio failure. Its not a visual problem from my eyes position in the glider, might look different from the cameras position.
"Going to the cows" a lot of them.
That's how an outlanding is called in french .
3:26 dear me alright. Talk about hair raising. Awesome video Anton!
How have the locals responded to a glider in their field? I've had probably around 100 outlandings on my HG and only one negative experience. I would assume generally it's still novelty / positive response? But of course it's also much more disruptive and involved.
Always been very good.
Hi Anton. Yip, bit more at stake with a sailplane outlanding eh? Impressed at your ability to get it into small paddocks. Have to admit I was a little nervious watching :-)
Hi Grant, To be honest the first outstanding was adrenaline filled, however I'm much more comfortable out landing a glider now than a HG, having glide angle control makes all the difference.
That mission impossible music was the best part. I'd expect you to laugh because of the convenience but I assume you got used to similar situations.
“Plenty of room to stop though.”
Yes, a plentiful 15-20 yards.
Not quite enough energy to get through the gate, but seriously its all relative to how fast you are going.
So we have an specialist on outlandings !!! Maybe he should try mountain biking...😊
Hi!
Question, except the last landing, for the 2 others, did you land in random fields?
Wondering the reaction of the landowner if so.
Very interesting to watch and very smooth camera work. As a matter of interest what camera are you using that seems to keep the horizon stable but the cockpit is floating in the video.
DJI Osmo action.
It doesn't seem that bad to me.
I would only recommend to apply more brakes as soon as you have touched down. You never know precisely what is in the filed and the more you run in the grass, the more chance you have to eventually hit something.
It once happened to me, I let my glider run unnecessarily and I got a flat tire.
Yes agree. The first one I did. The second I let it roll just a little bit onto flatter ground so it wouldn't roll back, it did a bit anyway. The third I let it roll as I had been circling over the field and had a very good look so let the final slower roll take me closer to the farmers house. The last was the home strip which is in good condition.
On a separate note it doesn't pay to use full brake all the time if landing on an airfield so as not to wear the brakes out unnecessarily. I had a cable brake on one out landing requiring a ground loop 30m from a fence to stop going through it.
There's always a lot to consider on an out landing, every one is different.
Is your ringtone 'Mission Impossible Theme'?
The ugly was not a patch on my worst glider outlanding! Or my second worst! Maybe not even my third worst! But then I have managed even worse back in hang gliding days inluding but not limited to: landing on a large flat rounabout in the UK, landing on a cow (she manouvered under me (thats my story anyway) top landing on the roof rack of a parked vintage car!
Yep definitely harder to do good landing without a wheel to soften the blow.
I just hope none of my neighbours heard me sitting alone at my computer, laughing uncontrollably... brilliant! Now if only you had your landings on video.
Entertaining the cows.
1st lands on field much better than my airfield...
Would like to have seen what you are flying in.
DG300
Hey I think one thing would be better to do. Dont fly low Level turns with airbrakes. With it you put one more point to do a failure at low level in the landing routine. There is more then one soinning because of that.
Considering they only add about 2 knots to the stall speed, anything over 50knots has plenty of safety margin. See ua-cam.com/video/Y-48aEuUbjs/v-deo.html
I feel it's kind of the opposite. Quickly retracting the brakes gives you another tool to get away from a stall.
the second one is the scariest, due to the steep grass bank close to the field. I saw it at the end, did you see it?
Yep.
it sounds like R2D2 is in thw cockpit with you....
I thought she sounded OK, maybe I'll meet her in person one day.
Why didn't you keep you spoilers/airbrakes fully open until you stopped? You would have stopped sooner.
They weren't too bad, maybe less mucking around and more normal circuit on the bad and the ugly, but otherwise down safe, and good fields. The mission impossible ringtone made the third one seem way more dramatic lol well done ignoring it.
PS. You need to hook up a landing gear detection thing on your LX!
The landing gear thing is installed, just needs adjusting.
I was hoping he wasn't going to answer it!!
are those landings near the kaimai range, waharoa airstrip?
Not close enough, but yes.
That landing gear is taking a bit of a battering.
DG built then strong thankfully.
Interesting how theres always lift to low to take advantage of it
Need to be carefull that its not you doing it though !! Mesing with brakes, flaps gear and trim can upset the glider to the pont that it trips the vario.. You might be rising but thats under your own energy, short lived then you circle thinking might be somthing until youve lost another 150 feet.. When you decided its time to land land.. Otherwise it reinforces bad habits which will get you into trouble some day..
I don't think I could stand that "check landing gear" warning repeated over and over after I'm already down without punching my flight computer lol
I always stick to the mantra of never hit a lady. Its very easy to fix but I only remember it needs doing after every landing.
best better good
Needs to be more ugly to be truly ugly..
We have kids jumping their bikes off mountains and people branding themselves with lasers.. Competition is tough in the ugly genre. 🤕
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Nice landings
I feel like it's not sensible to be using brakes in corners while low and slow... We have always been taught to avoid it...
According to the POH of an ASK21 spoilers increase the stall speed of 3 kmh. However I agree awareness of decreased aerodynamic capabilities is definitely great!
This looks to me like a LS1 or LS3
The answer is don't be low and slow (Anton isn't) then if your speed control is ok you are safe, and if it isn't then not using your brakes in turns will help to some extent because it makes speed control easier.
I have no idea how this is legal.
Field landing? I've heard land owners don't mind in 99% of cases.
@@LegendLength yeah, field landings, flying below 400ft, flying with effectively no control to get out of situations like this.
@@FasterThanJesus666 its a forced landing, not a choice
ON #3 the antiamerican farmer didn't shoot at you (LOL) although you used his property without permission .What a bad example those permissive librul foreigners are giving to the world .
If I had that many un-planned off field landings in that short of a timespan, i would look for a new hobby.
why? you don`t seem to be a sailplane pilot. These outfield landings can happen to anyone. You may out land 5 days in a row ....or you may get a full year without any outlanding😉 this is part of the sport (hobby😋)
@@ionutpatrascu2296 I am a licensed glider pilot for 40 years and unless you are doing a cross country, this should not happen. Trespassing on other peoples property and possibly ruining crops is not right.
@@garyfischer4357 indeed outlanding should not happen from traffic pattern flights, but as you leave the airfield cone of safety, it can happen anytime, multiple times a week. I also had bad days, 3 outs in a row in cross country championships, shit happens.. cheers 😉
Gary, of course these are all from XC flights, if you don't land out occasionally you aren't trying. NZ landowners are very cool about this sort of thing, in fact they seem to love it.
Nice views! - What is this whistling sound? Is it any kind of informative signal?
Audio variometer. Responds to glider sinking or climbing.