THE SECRET OF NIMH Clip - "Justin Duels Jenner" (1982)
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THE SECRET OF NIMH is the animation movie by Don Bluth.
PLOT: To save her ill son, a field mouse must seek the aid of a colony of rats, with whom she has a deeper link than she ever suspected.
RELEASE DATE: 16 July 1982 (USA)
GENRE: Animation, Adventure, Drama
STARS: Elizabeth Hartman, Derek Jacobi, Dom DeLuise
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#TheSecretofNimh #MrsBrisby #Justin #Jenner
Just noticed when Jenner gets knifed in the back he doesn't scream, the air is just forced out of his lungs. Just like with Chritopher Lee in Return of the King. Nice little detail
Say, you're right. I didnt think of that
Peter Jackson goes into a long explanation about how he wants Lee to react and Lee says, "Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when somebody's stabbed in the back? Because I do.”
@@robertpatter5509 That's when you remember the man was once a soldier.
@@Neobahamutfr36 not just any soldier he was basically British special forces he knew how to kill you without making a sound
@@danieldesario6120 Yep, that's right. Respect for the man.
Can we talk about how a crippled Mister Ages tried to stand up to a madman with a sword? Nerves of steel that mouse!
It’s a strong male instinct to get in between a female and danger, even when he has no realistic chance of protecting her. Not something you see portrayed in film too often anymore.
@@Noplayster13That Murderer got what he deserved
I wonder if the farmer's cat cause that injury?
I’m the book, he explains that he injured himself while dosing the cat’s bowl w a sedative, same as mrs frisbee tries to do later. He tripped and hurt himself.
@@lukeandersen5386They explain it in the film too. Justin tells her when she visits the rose bush
That line about Jenner learning nothing is *especially* poetic since the rats were all experimented on - forced to evolve into hyper intelligent creatures they were never meant to be and learn things they couldn't understand
They developed a peaceful semi-advanced quasi-medieval society - dedicated to protecting themselves and the animals around them from the cruelty of man and not repeating the mistakes of the beings that had made them
And here Jenner is - repeating *exactly* those mistakes - proving he's nowhere near as advanced as he portrays himself to be and that there's a monstrous and viscous creature lurking just under the surface waiting to take whatever it can...
Here here!
Just like Napoleon from Animal Farm.
“No taste for blood, huh? They’ve taken the *animal* out of you”.
Well said 👏
There is ALWAYS a monstrous and vicious creature lurking just under the surface. Our test, is to always protect others from it. Always.
Are we not gonna talk about the fact Justin does the entire sword fight with one arm?
Well Jenner did injure the other one before Sullivan tossed him his. Also swords are long and heavy; difficult to switch from hand to hand. Most people are right handed so in medieval times, horseback riders would have their swords on the right side of the saddle. So they would mount the horse on the left so that they didn’t hit the sword. We still get on horses from the left (the left side is the right side/the right side is the wrong side-two sayings to remind you)!
@@downhomesunset You don't carry your sword on the right side of the saddle if you have to DRAW IT with your right hand. It's biomechanically impractical to do so unless it's an EXTREMELY short blade like a gladius. Swords are worn on the left hip or carried on the left side of the saddle to facilitate the length of draw.
Also, swords are NOT heavy. Even a longsword only weighed at most 3.5 - 4lbs, with the majority averaging around 2.5 - 3. The big German and Swiss Zweihanders seldom exceeded 6lbs, with anything heavier being a processional or ceremonial sword not intended for actual combat. Jenner's and Justin's swords aren't even longswords, but closer in proportion to the arming sword, which tended to top out around 2.5lbs.
Remeber when kids movies could show how swords actually work and could kill the villain in a violent way.
God I miss it when animated films used to be fricken brutal.
@@ricvaladez2563 me too
Yeah. Violet people deserve a violet death. Don Bluth knew it better than many of us today.
@@ricvaladez2563 right, now my little brother watches tik tok and cringey as movies😑
What you talking about, you can still do it there are ways
To this day i'm convinced Nicodemus knew that he was going to die that evening, and still went through with it because he knew it was what was needed for things to change, to get better.
Plus, he already chose Justin as his successor, even tho Jenner took charge for a bit, but he knew Justin could defeat him. So in the end, he died knowing the Rats are in good hands in the long term.
Sounds like Jesus christ
Its literally Jesus and Peter.
One of my favorite things about this scene is at 3:21
Mrs. Brisby sees Jenner and doesn't do a cliche "Look out!" or "No!!"
It's a gasp and point completely filled with horror
She also didn't say "Watch out or Behind you"
Me too! It wasn't what you would see in a typical battle scene when someone else is scared.
Don't forget that Mr. Ages is seeing Jenner is going to do to Justin.
You guys are good
@@TheImaginator972Odd thing is I'm so focused on her reaction every time over the years I never noticed his, not even sure I knew he was there. I think her presence and reactions are just that big. Glad you pointed that out. Feels like a new scene to me now.
I love that they used rotoscoping to animate this fight. It feels so real and intense
did they?
For real? That’s cool
They did. This fight scene was rotoscoped over the final fight scene in the movie, The Vikings, starring Kirk Douglas and Tony Curtis. Both intense and well done. You can see some shots of NIMH that are from the movie Vikings, like when Jenner's sword hits the rock at 1:59 and when Jenner swipes Justin's feet at 2:30.
It kinda makes it uncanny to be honest, their movements is a bit too human-like.
they didn't use rotoscoping but video reference! there is a big difference! they used actors to get inspiration. oh my god how do people get this so confused?!
loved how the other rat redeemed himself by helping to stop Jenner, even killing him before succumbing to his wound
I think his names Sullivan
Stabbed in the back too very poetic.
I feel bad for him. He wasn’t evil - he thought Jenner had everyone’s best interests at heart.
@@jurassicking112 I thought his name was Brutus.
@@ztslovebird that's another rat
2:52 That scream is easily the best scream in pain I’ve ever heard. A literal top-of-the-lungs yowling scream. Not those half ***ed screams you hear so many times. Such good acting in this movie.
Jenner’s voice actor Paul Shenar would often redo his lines to get the best performance he could after he saw the drawings for the character he was determined to make a good villain performance and it prove to be the right move for
@@Terryfan He did not disappoint. :)
@@PIXELSURPRISE it shows he gave a strong performance
That scream gave me chills as a kid
For a villain who didn’t get a lot of screen time he left a impact and that scream yes
One little detail I like about jenner’s death is that it shows him gasping instead of yelling as that is what actually happens when you are stabbed with the air in your lungs being forced out. Another good example of this is Saruman’s death in rotk. I just find it very satisfying whenever they get that detail right
Yea, otherwise I would have that this story was too unrealistic.
WW2 veteran Christopher Lee himself gave Peter Jackson some technical advice on what sound Nazis make when they get stabbed to death. He listened.
In Saruman's case, that's because Christopher Lee had experience with that sort of thing from the war.
They way justin says "Jenner" 1:36 I think has a real deeper meaning than just saying his name. I believe it's shock, confusion and ultimately disappointing to see one of the leaders on the council acting nothing more than the animal he is. Snarling over a prize with and animal smaller than himself. Jenner is no more than a rat now. But still an awesome villain people don't talk about nearly enough.
Similar to Ratigan in his final confrontation with Basil. Strip away the intelligence and eloquence and they're really rats
Jenner was so ruthless.
Even when next to the Owl, or Dragon the Cat, Jenner was a true bloodthirsty monster.
First off, The Great Owl isn't antagonistic despite that Owls are known to eat mice as part of their diet, but this one chose to give Mrs Brisby advice to ask the Rats for Help moving her house due to Timmy's condition.
And 2nd, Dragon is slightly Antagonistic to the story because he did try to kill Jeremy and Mrs Brisby first time seeing him. Plus, he's the only main threat to the Rats of NIMH, hence why they have Mrs Brisby drug him to sleep so they can move her house to the Lee of the Stone before the Exterminators arrive and the next Plow starts. But in spite of all that, Dragon is only a cat. Hunting Mice and Rats are in their nature. Plus, given how vicious he has chased them, it's possible that the owner of Dragon trained him alot.
So, 3rd, yeah, Jenner is clearly the Monster overall. And I think of both Jenner and Dragon as 2 sides of the same coin. Jenner is a Bloodthirsty Rat who wants to kill anyone in his away, which is against his nature due to NIMH's Experiments on them while Dragon, a scary looking Cat only hunts after them because he mostly sees them as intruders to the Farm.
Yeah Jenner stands out because he's the most ruthless and morally aware of the bunch.
@@phillipwalling7470 at the time that they decided to help move her house-they didn’t know NIMH was coming.
In the book, Justin called Mrs Frisby good luck
@Downhomesunset I didn't say they knew of NIMH arriving besides Mrs. Brisby, who was in the cage as the farmer gets the call. I'm comparing the "Antagonists" besides the Owl who isn't at all an Antagonist, but Owls eat mice cause it's part of their diet, so the Great Owl could be one if he chose to.
The Great Owl only killed to eat and stay alive, and that was only at night. But if animals came to him for help or advice, he was willing to help them and leave them be otherwise. Dragon the Cat never was malicious, killing mice, birds, and rats was simply in his nature. But Jenner? Jenner had sentience and free will, and he willingly gave himself over to his monstrous, dark instincts. Everything he did was out of pure malice and lust for power.
For a kids movie that sword fight was pretty brutal and realistic.
That's because they used rotoscoping which is an animation technique where animators copy live-action motion frame by frame to make it more realistic
also, pretty much all of Don Bluth's films were edgy asf
One of the rare children’s films that aren’t afraid to show blood
It had me at the edge of my seat. I felt like I was in the front row of the dinner show Medieval Times.
@@jonathankeck3549 at first after all dog go to heaven weren’t really that edgy except maybe Anastasia and titan ae
God I loved this movie as a child, still do. Anything Don Bluth makes is worth watching. You can't keep a good dog down...
He Was Better Than Disney Is Today!
Yeah I saw this in the theater as a kid. I still love this fricking movie.
I love all dogs go to heaven
All of them except a troll in Central Park and rock a doodle.
Don Bluth was always pretty hit and miss to me as a producer/writer (A Troll in Central Park was asinine garbage, Rock-A-Doodle was awful, the only good thing in the Pebble and the Penguin was its voice cast, and even some of the creative liberties he took with adapted material such as the Secret of Nimh are, in retrospective, kind of questionable), but the animation of his pictures has never been anything less than god-tier.
I love the soft moment right before the fight where Justin is just sitting quietly, grieving over his friend and leader. Seldom see that in movies. But swiftly runs to aid Mrs. Brisby.
3:25 Huh. I wonder why this end part is somewhat underplayed in memories. Because despite that guys failings, even with his dying breaths, is skill with a dagger was excellent. A one shot back kill on Jenner who stabbed everyone in the back, poetic irony.
That rat is a hero here. He saved Justin's life twice.
@@Darthzilla99he throws that dagger like a ninja. One shot Jenner.
I like that, even though Justin is a "good guy", he's still a _rat_. They didn't make him look like a mouse just because he's a protagonist.
Not only that, but as goofy and friendly as he is, when he does get serious, he's definitely not someone to be messed with. The animation makes him look ferocious during the fight, there's no doubt it's a battle to the death. It reminds me of how in "Lady and the Tramp," during the fight with the rat, Tramp goes from normally looking cute and friendly to frightening and savage.
@Interestingenough4 you can also throw in the moments Chief catches Tod on the tracks or when Copper & Tod square off in the game preserve. The change from cute cartoon animals to animated depictions of real animals is as jarring as it is awesome
@@BigBWolf90me?
I've been rewatching scenes from this film and have come to see how reluctant an accomplice Sullivan was. While he did voice his belief that the Rats of N.I.M.H. were superior to the "lower creatures," it is clear he was never onboard with killing Nichodemus and he was the first to alert Justin and offer his sword in the fight. He even used the last moments to help kill Jenner.
3:35 rest in peace good hero
Fr Sullivan was a real one
Seeing a hate sink being killed by his former henchman after betraying the said henchman is always great to watch. Sullivan brings the napalm on Jenner, the hyenas devour Scar, the loa demons drag Facillier to hell, Darth Vader kills Palpatine and so on.
@dordonake The loa spirits were NOT demons like you and some people make it out to be. They didn't drag Facilier to hell.
I miss this kind of cartoon movie
Me too, Don Bluth’s old animated movies are the best, he made this one, All Dogs Go To Heaven 1 & 2 and American Tail which are my favorites. I believe he also animated A Land Before Time as well
@@khaotictrash I was wondering why this gave me all dogs go to heaven vibes.
@@khaotictrash Titan AE and Anastasia, too. I didn't care for Thumbelina and thought it was dumb as an elementary kid.
"I've learned this much: Take *what* you can, *when* you can!"
"Then you've learned nothing!"
That's the kind of exchange that turns movies into masterpieces.
@raymondbrereton3298That sounds like a variation of a line from Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
They don’t make movies like this anymore
Unfortunately no
Especially Not Disney!
One part i especially love about this film is the score by the late Jerry Goldsmith(who also scored for films such as the original planet of the apes, First blood and the gremlins) this was his first animated film score and he’d go on to say this was one of his favorite films he worked on.
This score is amazing and helps make this a true classic.
The score throughout most of this scene is actually quite unsettling. When Mrs. Brisby tells them that NIMH is coming, the music makes it feel like something malevolent is stalking up on them all through the tall grass. Existential dread.
@@schaddenkorp6977True
True-to-be true.
Netflix should stack these classics, not just a movie but a masterpiece.
Sad what happened to Elizabeth Hartman(the voice of mrs Brisby). I watched this movie time and time again when I was a child. Remember her voice so well. RIP.
Don't forget, Aldo Ray, Paul Shenar, John Carradine, Hermione Baddeley, Arthur Malet and Dom DeLuise (the voices of Sullivan, Jenner, The Great Owl, Auntie Shrew, Mr. Ages and Jeremy).
They passed away as well.
@@willrobinson3662 Yes, but Hartman passed away by suicide.
@@tangbein that hurt when I found that out.
That will always be the best knife throw in cinema history.
I swear the way Jenner dies really reminds me of kristato's death in for your eyes only. U don't suppose some or most of the people involved in this film are (or were) bond fans, do you?
Imagine if Don Bluth worked on Redwall...
Now that would be a true work of art and wonderful storytelling.
@@rebeltoonz5466 Hell, yeah! =D
Yep that would be absolutely awesome and Cluny would have been absolutely terrifying.
Whenever I hear the music in this film, I hear Mulan. Just shows how epic of a composer Jerry Goldsmith was. I keep expecting the Huns to come out of nowhere and just annihilate the rats.
I love the little animated details in gestures. Like at 0:38, Brisby is anticipating the news in regards to Nicodemus and as soon as he says he's dead, her hand grabs his tightly as if she kind of knew something bad had happened to him and to also support/comfort him immediately after hearing. It's just the small details like that I appreciate.
Like, I've seen many human beings do this gesture to each other and I'm glad they put that within these characters (though they're animals). It makes them feel real and just like us.
I love how one of the greatest sword fights in 80s fantasy cinema is two animated rats, lol.
3:27 A real backstabber.
That’s a good one!
Natural 20 Sneak Attack!
The music makes it even more great
Indeed also rest in peace Jerry Goldsmith
INCREDIBLE for 1982 holy moly! Older animation just has that different touch
This looks better than many LIVE ACTION sword fights of the 80s.
This movie still outpaces any of the modern animated movies I've seen in the last 40 years with the exception of Studio Ghibli's work.
Don Bleuth movies hit hard.
@@thegrimmretails3777 it's unfortunate that they pulled the plug on his version of Cats. I think that would have worked out.
You are missing out on Your Name and A Silent Voice.
@TheRecklessMetalhead I've seen both. They are well done. I still hold that this movie is better. And I'm a huge Violet Evergarden fan. NIHM, imo, is still better.
That is an awesome knife throw
I know right
Yep. It was right on target.
All in the wrist
“It’s all in the reflexes”
Jack Burton
Sullivan heard the Call, and did his Duty.
“Mom, have you seen my miniature swords for my action figures anywhere?” 🐀 ⚔️ 🐀
Almost 12 years later and this movie still slaps, glad I had this on vhs when I was little
12? This movie is 40 years old now! Kinda crazy to think about.
@@A_Bottle-Of_Orange_Crush
I watched this in 2010
This scene is heavily influenced by Ainar (Kirk Douglas) and Erik's (Tony Curtis) duel in The Vikings. A lot of the animation matches their movements.
Good call I believe you're correct
@@atticusfinch3931 I think it's been confirmed by Bluth, and I've seen both scenes side by side, and they're almost identical. But unlike Disney, it felt more like they used it as a reference yet tried to stay true to the characters they created. Somehow it makes the fight more epic
And the error flynn film the adventures of robin hood
I once saw The Vikings, when it got to the fight scene I immediately recognized the motions from this movie :D
I am honestly suprised they weren't sued since the reference matches almost 1:1 but the choreography is wonderfully reused here to dramatic effect. It doesn't feel lazy or anything.
1) That escalated quickly
2) This is literally one of my top ten favorite cinematic sword fights of all time
This movie is a timeless masterpiece, Jenner is such a ruthless character.
Yeah! That murderer got what he deserved
Yeah, he’s one of Don Bluth’s most evil characters alongside Rasputin, Preed, Warren T Rat, and The Drej Queen. At least when we take the original films into account. There are more if we add the sequels as well
Take what you can when you can
Then you’ve learnt nothing
Such an underrated line
Justin's delivery of that line hits so hard. The voice acting in this movie is brilliant.
One of the tenants of the Great Move to Thorn Valley was that they learn to take care of themselves and stop stealing. To become self-sufficient and not rely on others. A philosophy that Jenner was hoping to kill when he killed Nicodemus.
Remember back when children's movies actually had the stones to kill main characters? The 1980s was the best time to be a kid growing up.😀
And showing some actual blood too.
I didn't appreciate it as a child because I was very sensitive to death. Disney's _Tarzan_ I hope people can agree was kinda overkill in this respect, given the villain was presented as pretty goofy for much of the movie.
You will never be forgotten Mrs. Brisby💔💜✝️
This movie was a good part of my childhood
I really miss when cartoons were dark and brutal like this one since I always thought they were epic. And I still do
Probably one of the best choreographed fights in animation history.
This is such a great sword fight, probably one of the best ever put to film by that point. The techniques were believable and not over-polished, excellent use of terrain, and realistic level of brutality, 10 out of 10.
Yeah, this looks like two people desperately trying to hack each other to bits and not get chopped up in the process.
So real cool fact. Don Bluth used the sword fight that was ddone with live actors with Kirk Douglas was in the movie Vikings. It was a tribute to him and that film. ua-cam.com/video/9V6Y5CQoZTM/v-deo.html
It is also one of the most accurate stab sounds. It is quiet and in the gut, not sloshing or slashing. It is just the yelp of a character reacting to losing a sword fight.
Jenner: "I've learned to take what you can, when you can"
Justin: "Than you have learned nothing.."
(They keep fighting until Justin puts up a wooden slab and jabs Jenner in the stomach)
Justin: Friends. (Throws his sword aside) Tonight, we journey to Thorn Valley. We shall leave no tracks, no evidence that the rats of NIHM ever existed. Come.
Jenner was still acting like street rat even with the knowledge that was given from NIMH. And Justin was right when he said ' then have learned nothing' with that knowledge even the simplest thing if they stole would be noticed from the farmers and the scientists from NIMH if they saw stuff being stolen
Favorite Line
2:09 You did it you killed Nicodemus that was no accident
3:42 I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MRS. BRISBY IS THINKING: "what an awful day, so many died today"
This movie was a classic
Jenner: I’ve learned this much: take what you can when you can.
Justin: Then you’ve learned NOTHING.
(They keep fighting until Justin puts up a wooden slab and jabs Jenner in the stomach)
Justin: Friends. (Throws his sword aside) Tonight, we journey to Thorn Valley. We shall leave no tracks, no evidence that the rats of NIHM ever existed. Come.
Who else crushed on Justin as a kid? 😳😂
It's funny you say that, one of my best female friends did (from the book Justin, not the movie) He actually dies in the end (which was retconned in the sequel books written by the author's daughter)
Never, never disarm yourself like he did.
Even today I still wonder if swords like Jenner's exist in real life
I'm not sure i've ever seen a blade like that in the real world.
It kind of looks like a flamberge sword
www.buyingasword.com/flamberge-damascus-sword
The closest would be a flamberge or german zweihander
To me it looks better because it doesn't exist. It's not a downscaled human sword, it's rat sword made with rat's inferior metalworking on a rat scale. The blade isn't straight because they're brute dragging the blade over a scavenged file much too big and you can see the irregularities.
The brilliance is that Jenner isn’t wrong, but his short-sightedness and selfishness defines his motives. “Take what you can, when you can,” is not inherently a bad take, but in the context of NIMH and the potential destruction of the community to maintain his position, comfort and convenience, it becomes a bludgeoning mantra to try to exert his power and authority over others. Jenner hasn’t “learned nothing.” To the contrary, he’s learned quite a lot to Understand the effect of manipulation and coercion.
He's learned nothing in the way of Goodness and Compassion. Being Smart is one thing but using those smarts for the betterment of society takes true courage cause it's largely a thankless task and a lot of the "Smart" people nowadays thrive on awards and appreciation.
Jenner also never learned to fully hone his intellect. He still relied on his survival instincts rather than on logic and reason, unlike Nicodemus, Justin and the rest of the rats.
@@Fenris30 I dunno; he's perfectly reasonable for a rat.
You can be smart, but lack wisdom
Very good assessment!
To This Day THE SECRET OF NIMH Is Far Better Than Anything Disney Can Offer! It's Truly One Of The Best Animated Movies Of All Time!
You got that right, it's one of Don Bluth animated masterpiece of the entire decade and Secret Of NIMH is still my favorite!
True, and it's original too, unlike everything Disney has made.
I guess you don’t know that Disney was first offered to make this movie, but turned it down?
And that Don Bluth, as well as most of the animators who worked on this, were former Disney employees who quit and started their own studio?
The irony…
@@mutfol Bluth left and took a few animators with him privately so he could still work on The Fox And The Hound.
Always loved how Justin's sword was straight and Jenner's was twisted.
"I've learned this! Take what you can, when you can"
"Then you have learned nothing."
That's like a star wars/lord of the rings level line ... damn
"She's hysterical!"
"You have to get out!"
" *immediately punts her to the ground* YoU gEt OuT!"
Imagine if Jenner's voice was replaced with a child, suddenly he seems a lot more like a silly, emotional toddler XD
Yeah. Jenner was being quarrelsome.
Yea xD
When i imagine Jenner's voice replaced with a child, my first association is Henry Evans from "The Good Son".
If anyone was hysterical, it was Jenner. You really gotta admire Mrs Brisby for standing her ground and continuing to warn the rats despite his protests.
I think that’s part of the point. It shows how Jenner never stopped behaving like an animal and neither could he learn to be more civil with the brain boost from NIMH’s experiments. If a normal rat could speak, they would most likely say basic things like that.
I love how when their pupils move to the corners of their eyes it looks like they don't actually have visible pupils, like they've turned back into animals for a moment.
While a movie, and scene as well, rife with amazing moments, something about Brisby's walk from the battle strikes hardest to me.. a dispassionate, cold look on her usually kind face for the moment, as if this sentience, this higher calling of civilization and all amounts to little else besides the usual bloody mess that we animals always arrive at, no matter what.. and it won't do much to save her children, at the end of the day. We can be strong and sure of blade in the heat of the moment... but what else?
"Then you've learned NOTHING...."
Just saying but to me it looks like Justin is the rats version of Robin Hood and Jenner is sir Guy of gisbourne and I am saying that because in the 1938 Adventures of Robin Hood movie during the final battle Robin Hood duels sir guy of gisbourne and Robin Hood strikes sir guy of Gisbourne at the same spot that Justin gets Jenner with his sword.
Which no surprise cuz it was animated by same person who was previously work with Disney, hence designs.
Don Bluth animated this movie and Disney’s Robin Hood and they might’ve had some of the same writers too so there’s that, and ironically I loved both Justin and Robin as a kid
I read somewhere Bluth and Goldman were really pushing for a PG rating on this movie, but it ultimately got a G.
"Hey honey what is the 3 year old watching?"
"Idk, some kids cartoon about a family of mice made in the 80s"
"The Secret of NIMH?"
This is still one of the best-animated fights I've ever seen. It feels like a genuine struggle, the clashing, the heaving, grunting, each opponent putting in everything to stay alive and gain the upper hand. You can feel the weight being thrown around, the strain, the panic, the adrenaline in their voices, and that scream. That haunting, unbridled scream of agony. I still think back to this as a perfect example of a fight done right.
This was one of the greatest movies of the 1980s I remember it fondly.
"I've learned this much: Take what you can. When you can!"
Still gives me chills when Jenner says that. This was arguably my first (and favorite) movie villain. Voice acting is incredible, the guy who voiced him played Alejandro Sosa from Scarface.
1:41 is the "my sword" line
It's interesting how Jenner is the villain of the movie who kills Nicodemus, but in the book he already left the rose bush before the events of the story and Nicodemus remains alive. XD
Yeah this is one of the greatest deviations from the source material, they effectively spun up an entirely different story and threw out the last third of the book.
@@thomasedwards4515 And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the magic amulet a thing made for the movie and not actually in the book? It's been so long since I read it. XD
@@natebush8217 Yeah the amulet was completely made up. The book was originally about the rose bush being put in jeopardy by the farmer and how the rats dealt with having to flee their first civilization IIRC
3:26 When you crit on your sneak attack in D&D.
Courage of the heart is very rare... The stone has a power when it's there... I'll never forget those words. A gem of a movie
From the creators of the land before time and Titan AE
And an American tail, all dogs go to heaven and Anastasia
That's Don Bluth to you. The director who's made mature and darker animated movies for kids. Well until Rock-a-Doodle...
@@brandonspain12345and even then, that film had dark qualities. The villain for instance is the darkest part of the film. In fact in his first scene he turns a small child into a cat and attempts to eat him alive.
With great intelligence comes great morality...and even the rats of Nimh can fall to sins
Just. Like. Humans.
That’s why we need Jesus.
I watched this movie for the first time last night at age 26. I always loved animated movies as a kid and still do. I have to say at first I was shocked that this qualified for a G rating. But I honestly think a reasonable amount of fantasy violence is fine for children to experience. Any 6 year old who has been on a playground knows what getting cut and bleeding looks like. And violence aside this was an extremely well done movie. One that actually gets you emotionally invested in the story and makes you feel suspense when the stakes are high. I'm not saying there aren't good new animated kids' movies, but there is just something about The Secret of NIHM that you don't really get nowadays. It just feels more immersive.
What I've always liked about the Secret of NIMH is how, at its core, it's a very grounded, relatable story that escalates into a (literally) small-scale fantasy adventure: Mrs. Brisby goes from a destitute single mom who wants her children to be safe to a heroine of an entire society in a matter of days, but she always remains the same humble, tender character that knows full well she's in way over her head, but needs to rise up to the challenge to claim her happy end. In ways, the story reminds me pleasantly of "Lord of the Rings", since it's not destiny, some mythical force or superhuman endurance that keeps Samwise Gamgee going, it's his loyalty and dedication to his friend. Neither he nor Mrs. Brisby chose to embark on an adventure, they went along with it because they wanted to keep their loved ones safe and go home.
A movie about the Rats going to Thorn Valley would have made a better film then 'the Secret of NIMH 2.'
Yeah definitely, like wtf were they huffing when they came up with the plot to the second one?
I love Justin he may be a goofball but he has a heart of gold and would do anything to help others he's my favorite rat❤❤❤
Dude that knife throw was so damn awesome. He deserves a lot more praise for that
How on Earth does a man go from this to A Troll in Central Park?
Cocaine is a Hell of a drug..
2:14 "I killed him"
Yeah?
Sullivan gonna kill you.
1982 was the best year for movies ever
3:35, goodbye Sullivan. A hero at the end.
3:27 One good back stab deserves another.
I absolutely loved this movie as a kid- Grandparents had it on tape for us to watch whenever we visited/stayed over. That's a fond memory of my Grandma I have, she'd always look in the tv magazines to see if there was any fun children's movies on so she could tape it for us to watch when we came over. One day, she taped "Fritz the cat" and as kids we were curious, but we never got to see the movie. Turns out she also watched the movies herself beforehand, to make sure it was proper for us little kids. She was such a legend.
Yoooooo, Jenner slapped the $hit outta Mrs Brisby, and she took it like a champ! Lmfao
She's so gangsta
~Riley
While I strongly prefer the original book to the film, there are a lot of things the Secret of NIMH did right. One of them is the Sword Duel.
It's weird that the sword duel between Justin and Jenner is a surreal fight since they are two animated rats, and yet it's one of the most realistic portrayals of sword combat in an animated film.
So much swordplay in films mimics Star Wars lightsaber duels without that franchise's in-universe justification of the Jedi and Sith being able to precognitively sense the future and read each other to produce a ballet-like choreography of blows with matching counterblows performed in fluid, constantly flowing fashion.
Real sword combat is filled with sharp, sudden, hyper aggressive swings, hesitant pokes and prods, grabbing each other, improvising attacks and blocks/evasions/counters, and pauses to try to read what the opponent is thinking/trying to do. This short sequence captures all of that so sharply.
Justin is Simba of the secret of nimh
That is correct, sir, and Jenner is Scar of The Secret of NIMH.
@@willrobinson3662 interestingly enough, when one person on UA-cam did a movie spoof of the lion king on UA-cam, Jenner played Scar!
Fievel Mousekewitz is Young Simba
The muddy rain in the moving block scene looks like a good background design for a Don Bluth film taking place in the First World War.
Holy shit this movie has quite the body count. 1:48
Sullivan had a hell of a throwing arm in those last few seconds just a flick of a wrist and that dagger went flying
To be completely honest, Nicodemus does a great job while Justin does a much better job on leading the rats than Jenner.
Nicodemus clearly trusted Justin in that regard. Jenner has been plotting to kill Nicodemus even before the film started.
@@phillipwalling7470and what makes you hate Jenner for that even more is that the book says that before the rats were captured by NIMH, Nicodemus and Jenner were friends. Jenner is a true backstabber.
Sullivan well and truly redeemed himself.
the greatest choreographed sword fight in cinema
Jenner got what he had it coming.
yup
Yep. That’s what Jenner gets for having Nicodemus slaughtered and turning traitor against Sullivan.
He was a backstabbing traitor
Ih he should be a shame himself for murder Nicodemus the wise elder rat unacceptable not cool and it wasn't very nice to do.
Jenner was right about one thing
2:37
3:28 that face is genuinely haunting
This is for Nicodemus! 3:13
Back when movies were made with heart and imagination, and not just a bunch of damn CGI. 😂😂