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Do you have a graphics card in your PC? That might be important along with the general specs if someone was to copy this to see what kind of power you need to run the cab at the 1080p settings your are using
I can't believe so many stock pieces died so quickly. Really makes me feel much less pressed to get one and to just go ahead and make one with Steam. Thanks Doug! Definitely motivating me to do dig in.
@@Roguebudo the original screen is 1080p my machine is modded to be used with a PC with pinball fx3 and the stock monitor is actually really good when you mess with the settings it's a perfect base to start your virtual pinball journey especially for the sale price right now of 449
I specifically bought one to gut and mod it! :) price cabinets and graphics and ALL the parts just for a diy kits. This is the best value for a first beginner VP In a clean ready made package worth it for that alone. Like to see the community doing successful lcd back glass and improved playfield monitors already. Even the stock actuators currently being worked on, love the A1U mod community ingenuity.
I've been waiting to see how you did this!!! thanks for sharing the VS Display adapter link, makes sense it needs to be the appropriate size adapter which is why I failed converting mine. 😆 can't wait to see the rest of this series
I've wanted one of these from day one. The mod would be a necessity for me. To think that your stock parts failed so quickly is a complete shock ! That is crazy !
Just to think. That Dell PC sat on someone's desk used to create boring excel spreadsheets and TPS reports, and is now enjoying its retirement having a blast playing some vpin. Great work!
Just thrilled (dripping sarcasm) to hear about your problems with your unit. I haven’t even gotten mine out of the box yet. Thanks also to Game Stop (more sarcasm) Came home to find the box sitting on the sidewalk in front of the house I’m staying at. No e-mail heads up from Game Stop, no shipping notification, nothing, zip, just a box sitting on the sidewalk....(Ninth Ward in New Orleans) Where things have a tendency to magically disappear.... And neither David Copperfield or Mr Scott in the Enterprise transporter room are involved. So you can understand how thrilled I was... Wish me luck Doug. Even though these mods are WAY above my pay grade I always enjoy your posts. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻😎
Cool video but I have to say that is concerning that solenoids and switch stopped working so quickly. Sorry to hear that for you. I was lucky enough to get an AFM preorder in and really don’t want to tinker with it....
@@daviddeming1916 I am concerned, but Cooltoy did say his was a pre-production unit...so maybe they ironed out the issues with the production run? Hopefully that is the case, but I guess we’ll see...
So Cooltoy I have to ask....what is you favourite Home Pinball cabinet now. Okay now that I got that out of my system back to watching the rest of the video.
I just got my AFM yesterday and had ordered everything I needed to do these mods the same day, with addition of the 21'' LCD you recommended. I played with the stock parts for maybe 20 minutes and couldn't believe the delay that the flippers had on every game. Was so glad to upgrade everything with the ability to play almost any game on the machine that I want, thank you so much for this video.
Was looking forward to this video. Didn’t disappoint! I saw you mentioned in one of the comments that your Marvel unit was preproduction. Knowing this type of thing sometimes happens with preproduction units, just a recommendation that you add that to copy accompanying the video. I have AFM on preorder and was a bit concerned at first!
Dam dude, I actually want the 1 up now. Can't wait to see the updates on this. This one looks so much better than the Atgames especailly with the dmd and that awesome backglass mod!!
This is awesome. Thanks for this! I have the Williams one coming in the mail. I really wish the original graphics were just in 1080 or there was at least an option to switch between even if it meant a frame rate hit. I own literally every table on Pinball FX 3 on steam so the idea of upgrading this to play all those (and the digital backglass hinted at in the end) would be completely awesome.
Nice! Curious as to (approximation) how much each of those upgrade components cost...especially an estimation on the Minimum Computer ($$$) and Recommended Computer ($$$) - Buttons (FREE), Encoder Board ($10), VS Display Board ($32), Y-Splitter Cable ($10). Looking forward to the next videos in this series! Thanks.
Wow Doug! - One of your best videos! I am sooo excited to see how you add haptics, accelerometer, and analog plunger to this. I have built my own vpin, but it is lacking those addons. I have been looking into adding them, but getting good info is difficult, most people recommend a very expensive solution $300-700 to add those. I didn't want to spend that much on my first vpin. You always explain things very well, so I am REALLY looking forward to your next video on this. Love the channel, long time subscriber - Take Care :)
It would be great to set up visual pinball on this cab, thanks for this tutorial, made me a little bit more excited about the longevity of these things
Dude this is epic. Can’t wait for the next mods you previewed. But the fact your A1up components died already... df! Hope they give you money back or a replacement.
I just did this mod today and it all went really smooth. Only thing I would add is you can change contrast and brightness settings of the DMD display with the Nvidia control panel.
Well, I got all of my parts in to start this mod (only thing I'm not doing is adding the nudge buttons). We will see how it goes. Your video seems to be straight forward so I think I'll be able to do this! :-)
Can you give some insight or guidance on PC set-up? As in; how to power-on the PC, when it's neatly tucked away and out of reach, and how to launch FX3 (auto-launch at PC power-on?). Interested in achieving: Switch-on the machine, PB-FX3 launches straight away and I'm into the application without any mucking-around. A one button/switch activation would be great :)
That was a lot of good solid impactful information. I will have to keep that in mind if I ever decide to mod one of my three arcade one-up pinballs. I would love to have more of the game repertoire to my cabinets you sir are a genius
Its a little concerning that the stock parts didnt even last a month. Sounds like poor quality control and am now worried about my machine....Great video though.
This Marvel machine was a pre-production machine sent to me for review purposes. I have no way of knowing if the component failure that happened on my machine is a result of bad luck or actual QA issues. Since I have no way to know what, if anything, changed between the pre production and final production runs on these machines.
@@danielmitchel31310 This is exactly what I was thinking. Why wouldn't you contact them? I'm sure they would have just sent out a replacement for no charge.
@@danielmitchel31310 nope. I didn’t want to ask for replacement parts because I didn’t want to take away from customers who might need those parts more than me
Doug thanks for the very detailed and and awesome mod tutorial. I'd love to see you and Bee maybe do a collaberation livestream together where you guys talk to us about the future upgrades and options you'll be doing with your pinball machines.
Sounds like this is going to be a really fun series of videos to watch! I need more space before buying pinball, but I like the idea of using a PC and changing the back area to a monitor to match the game as opposed to buying multiple VP cabs. I never really took a close look at the DMD before, but I dont understand why they can include something like that without issue on the pinball, yet be so hesitant to confirm inclusion on a Dragon's Lair cab. Hopefully they figure that screen solution out soon. I much rather pay extra for a proper second screen and not possibly using my own, versus getting some deluxe edition that includes another stool or something. Lol. Sidenote; I know you originally started looking at these products just because they were more cool toys (pun intended) for the community, and now you've sort of been given this extra pressure to *immediately* inform the Arcade1up community of any red flag or update you come across lol. I guess it comes with the territory. Hopefully you are still having fun with everything. I appreciate the videos and whatever you decide to present to us when you have the chance to do so.
Great job man! Typical Arcade1up crap though... broken parts within a month - no replacement parts anywhere in sight on the website - user eats the costs and must mod via 3rd party.
Cool modding video! I don’t plan to mod my A1UP pinball but this was still a cool watch! The main reason I don’t plan to mod my A1UP pinball is, when I turn on the machine, I want a streamlined experience. I don’t want a window’s desktop UI, then having to launch Pinball FX with a Bluetooth controller, then exit and properly shutdown the PC through windows again, etc... does this mod or your future mod make it so that you never see a Windows interface or is that inevitable for a PC mod? How long was it before your stock haptics and switches gave out? And also, would A1UP have replaced them? I just got my A1UP about a week ago, and I’m loving it just the way it is, but if the haptics or switches crap out, I’d love to be able to fix them. Sorry for all the questions! Great video, very detailed, good visuals to match, and it’s cool seeing how far people push their mods!
Have you thought of adding a small subwoofer to the cabinet? I’ve been thinking of getting one of Arcade1Up’s pinball machines and mod it with the backglass as well - along with a subwoofer.
Thanks for this. I was thinking about picking up the Attack From Mars machine but reviews made me sceptical. Now with this mod I believe I'll pull the trigger. Being able to have some of my favorite pinball games and not having to build a cabinet is perfect for me, the novice gamer. I have bought the Sharpin Ultra last year when it came out, for some reason I have very noticeable lag and owner seems not to want to help support US buyers. I see the upgraded 32" monitor and 21" back glass monitor so I will add those projects as well. Thank you again. I'll let you know my progress. I will gift myself Attack From Mars for Father's Day Ordered Attack from mars from Best Buy, should be here 06/17
I am doing the same Tim. I just ordered my AFM, both monitors recommended as well as the $160 board that does the accelerometer and provides the updated plunger. I have a small HP Z2 PC that has an i5 processor, 4 display port output ports using its built in nvidia card, 16 GB of ram. I can't wait for all the parts to arrive.
Sorry to hear the A1up components died, so soon. Did A1up even offer to replace them? Nice job on repurposing the existing cabinet. A good lesson for those who already spent good money on this cab, and want to continue using it, with way better replacement hardware, without having to buy, and build a new cabinet. Looking forward to the backglass monitor install video. Thanks for sharing this.
I never asked for replacement parts from Arcade1Up since this was a pre production unit sent to me for review purposes. I didn’t want to ask for replacement parts because I didn’t want to take away from customers who might need those parts more than me.
Very cool introduction for people who are starting on virtual pinball... One note for you, that may help you in the future. Dont put the dmd or backglass on TOP ot the playfield or to the LEFT... you'll have issues with future upgrades in other type of pinballs like visual pinball, future pinball, and if you use pinup player or popper... negative values are ok with pinball fx or even pinball arcade but you'll have problems with the rest.
Yea, I'm fully aware of that. But since the main focus was for just the main playfield and the dmd scoreboard in FX3 only for this video I wanted to make it super simple for people. I'll show the other method of having the monitors arranged side by side in other videos where I have the back glass monitor installed and am also running VPX and Future Pinball.
Love the video .. I'm looking in to digital right now because the real pinball machines have got insane in price .. so of course after watching all these upgrades I wanna just upgrade right away a new digital one up machine .. is there a better way to go ?? THANKS MAN I HIT THE LIKE AND Subscribe BUTTON . .LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE
What specific graphics card are you using in the optiplex? Can it be any GTX 970? It has to have at least 3 video outputs correct? Thanks for the vid...can't wait for the others.
3 if you want to do the additional back glass screen also, only 2 if you just want the scoring LCD and playfield. I'm using a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 D6 OC Low Profile 4GB graphics card in this particular PC.
CoolToy, Wow! This has to be your best tutorial yet! Amazing and thank you! Thank you also for confirming the stock Arcade1up monitor resolution as 1080p. So cool! I had one quick question if you have a moment. It is a bit worrisome that the Marvel Cabinet started breaking down after such a short period of time. Do you think this is because it's not a retail unit? Or, since you got to really take it apart, and you also own the Star Wars retail cabinet, that the Arcade1up pinballs might just have a short lifespan? I know this is a VERY SMALL case study to look at, but would just be curious to hear your thoughts. $549 to $600 might be a bit pricey for a machine that will only last a month or two. I was seriously considering the Attack From Mars, but now I'm not sure. Thanks as always for the great content and at least we know we have an out if the machine does break down quicker than we'd like. I also own all the Zen tables on Steam (and also Pinball Arcade before it lost all it's licenses, Addams Family Baby!) and it would be nice to play them without having to re-buy them on another platform :) Have a great one! vgv
Well, I know that you specifically said that you do not "suggest buying a $600 arcade 1up cabinet for the sole purpose of modding it" so I paied $850 (Canadian) instead. Looking forward to modding!
Awesome. Really appreciate the detailed mod info. Shame about the stock controller board dying so quickly (quality issue or just bad luck?). This looks like a no-brainer upgrade for most people who have a spare PC around to power their steam collection. Cheers!
My Marvel machine was a pre production unit sent to me for review purposes. I have no real way of knowing for sure if it was bad luck or a quality issue, since I do not know what may or may not have changed in the manufacturing process when the retail ready units were made.
@@cooltoy No big deal either way. There is an inherent failure rate of all electronics so let's just chalk it up to bad luck. Fortunately, as you proved it's really not that big a deal to upgrade/replace these parts for minimal cost. My guess is that after shipping costs are factored in, that A1up isn't making that much on these units, so it's still a great value overall as a vpin cab that can be modded.
I did this mod yesterday. Your video was really helpful, some of the connections are a bit confusing. The DMD works in Windows, but haven't gotten it to work with the tables yet. I got Pinball FX and FX3. FX3 works really well, but I wanted to play Mandalorian, and that is through FX. I got a bundle of 2 games with FX. The flippers work with one, but not Mandalorian. Definitely still have some more work. I'm conflicted on what to do. Do I take this farther and get the better encoder and upgrade my PC? I would love to upgrade the screen, the stock display is not great. There are so many tutorials out there, the more I look at this stuff, the more I want to do. But...with the stock PCB, everything works. I loaded all 30 tables plus the Zen and Pinball Arcade mod. It's easy. I don't think I will go back to stock, but it's tempting. Just depends how much time, money and effort I want to spend. Edit: I got the flippers in Mandalorian to work. I had already setup Joytokey to work with FX3, and the keys are different in FX. I just went in and set the FX keys to match what I had set for Joytokey. Still don't know why the DMD is displaying my second Windows screen but not the game's DMD. I'll figure it out.
Great video, Cooltoy! I realize your model is preproduction, but that is concerning to have that many parts quit working so soon. I’m looking forward to getting my AFM cab, but am a bit concerned about the parts quality now.
Thanks so much for a great and informative video. You mentioned that you don't recommend getting one of these if your intent is just to mod them. Any other kits you'd recommend? I love the Star Wars theme and really would need that smaller scale of cabinet for my room, so modding this cabinet seems like a solid fit for me. I'm much more comfortable on the PC modding side than in building a cabinet from scratch, so some sort of kit appeals.
Hey Doug, I assume this is unrelated to the mod that lets you play just the 1up Zen tables? Does that still work? If I own the tables via Switch does that count? Or do you have to go through steam. I’m hooked on Vpinball (didn’t think I would since I have a real Bally machine). Thanks for the videos!
Yes this is unrelated to that new mod. This plays the PC versions of these games through steam which are far superior to the android versions in just about every measurable way.
So with the PC mod you lose the functionality of the stock analog plunger? Also are there two separate display connections for the play field and DMD or do they run off the same lvds connector? Thanks a lot man for you help on this you're a lifesaver.
Can you only use the VSDISPLAY just to improve the stock screen quality to 1080p or do you really need a pc also? I am only interested in doing a screen mod to inprove quality & contrast from the stock screen. Please let me know.
I don't believe the monitor has the capability to save any settings, so once you remove the VSDISPLAY adapter you would lose whatever changes you made.
@@cooltoy Tks for responding. Can I just simply add VSDISPLAY HDMI VGA DVI Audio LCD Controller Board without the need a pc? The only mod I am interested is really screen resolution on the stock.
Wow I'm wondering how long before others have the same issues with their cabinets, imagine after all the waiting you play a few weeks and kaput! Just another reason I'm glad I cancelled my pre-order after all the excitement and anticipation!!
hi. thanks for taking the time to make these mod videos, really enjoying the series. One thing i am unable to find (i may have over looked) is what video card you are using in your PC or are you just using on board graphics from the I5? if so, does it handle all 3 monitors without anything else needed? thanks in advance for any help.
I think the fact that these Arcade 1up components are failing already is a bigger story and needs to be addressed. Have you reached out to them for replacements or information?
Great video! Thanks so much--i used the teachings herein to repurpose my arcade1up pinball into a dedicated Pc-based pinball fx3 cabinet. Quick question: would it be possible to connect the power for the DMD/speakers/backlight into a USB port in the PC, using some sort of barrel-to-USB adapter, so that the entire shootin' match powers up when I power up the PC? Or is there a way to power everything off of the PC power supply?
I wish someone would just figure out if/how you can just copy games from the other Arcade1Up pinball tables. Like take Marvel tables and add them to the Star Wars one, etc
Thanks for the awesome video. I grabbed this converter board for my PC's HDMI to the monitor. Thank you. If I wanted to convert PCB to HDMI (so that I could add an HDMI switch and run either system) what do you recommend to convert PCB into hdmi?
I believe you mentioned on your channel that your Marvel was a preproduction unit sent by A1Up and you bought the Star Wars because of your Star Wars love. Do you think the board and solenoids went kaput on the Marvel unit because it's a free preproduction unit? I have a Star Wars A1Up table that I spent my hard earned dollars on. I love it! But, I'd be raging if the solenoids and board were fried so soon after release. As always, thank you for the vid and for sharing your mods!
Sorry to be a jerk. I have a marvel machine; can I just buy at plug n play board that is ready to go? Or, set up so I can buy and add games to the machine that I have? I like the look and size of my machine. The play field, I can live with. I just would like a few more games....
Probably a dumb question, but is there any way to get the stock On/Off switch to turn on/off the PC? I know you can buy buttons with wires that plug into the motherboard, but I'd really like to use the built in toggle switch. Maybe some sort of wire converter or something between the existing wires and the PC plug?
Wouldn't a mini pc work as well too instead of having a normal pc. Like how much ram do you need to run pinball, an how much memory? Couldn't you use a mini pc with 16g with 256?
Virtual pinball is highly taxing on ram and gpu’s. A mini pc is just going fill you with compromises in performance and make you wish you used something different. Mini PCs are great for arcade emulation, but not so much at virtual pinball running high frame rates with multiple monitors
Awesome to see, can't wait to see future vids.. Curious, if you feel 24" feels small compared to the 32" now that both are running 1080p. Wanting to pull the trigger on vpin cab, whether it be one of the offerings or a flat pack, but still stuck on screen size, which can influence price of either. I feel 24 is too small.
If you feel 24 is too small, don't buy the machine plain and simple. Go with whatever your gut tells you and what you think would make you the happiest overall.
So I just got the marvel 1up machine. The previous owner modded it so I have all the marvel boards, all the Star Wars boards and Williams boards. If I understand you correctly, I would need a pc and a different pcb in order to utilize the stock playfield at 1080 correct? In other words, what is the bare minimum I would need to get 1080 resolution from the stock board and not lose haptics or accelerometer?
Yes, I know, I kept saying "back glass" when talking about the LCD Score Display. Clearly I was tired 🤐.
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Supply your own PC.
Do you have a graphics card in your PC? That might be important along with the general specs if someone was to copy this to see what kind of power you need to run the cab at the 1080p settings your are using
I was also wondering about the specs of your pc cooltoy
I can't believe so many stock pieces died so quickly. Really makes me feel much less pressed to get one and to just go ahead and make one with Steam. Thanks Doug! Definitely motivating me to do dig in.
This has become one of my favorite channels. Incredibly thorough, informative, and entertaining. Thank you. Excellent job!
thank you so much for that wonderful feedback!
Looks so much better with 1080p resolution. This is what the unit should have been from the factory.
This is literally the only thing stopping me from buying one. The original screen looks awful comparatively.
@@Roguebudo the original screen is 1080p my machine is modded to be used with a PC with pinball fx3 and the stock monitor is actually really good when you mess with the settings it's a perfect base to start your virtual pinball journey especially for the sale price right now of 449
I specifically bought one to gut and mod it! :) price cabinets and graphics and ALL the parts just for a diy kits. This is the best value for a first beginner VP In a clean ready made package worth it for that alone. Like to see the community doing successful lcd back glass and improved playfield monitors already. Even the stock actuators currently being worked on, love the A1U mod community ingenuity.
I'm have been looking into building a groin cab, but this maybe a cheaper beginning point
I've been waiting to see how you did this!!! thanks for sharing the VS Display adapter link, makes sense it needs to be the appropriate size adapter which is why I failed converting mine. 😆 can't wait to see the rest of this series
glad I could help
I've wanted one of these from day one. The mod would be a necessity for me. To think that your stock parts failed so quickly is a complete shock ! That is crazy !
Just to think. That Dell PC sat on someone's desk used to create boring excel spreadsheets and TPS reports, and is now enjoying its retirement having a blast playing some vpin. Great work!
100% that's what happened! I bought this particular Dell from an office liquidation sale in my area.
Just thrilled (dripping sarcasm) to hear about your problems with your unit.
I haven’t even gotten mine out of the box yet.
Thanks also to Game Stop (more sarcasm)
Came home to find the box sitting on the sidewalk in front of the house I’m staying at.
No e-mail heads up from Game Stop, no shipping notification, nothing, zip,
just a box sitting on the sidewalk....(Ninth Ward in New Orleans)
Where things have a tendency to magically disappear....
And neither David Copperfield or Mr Scott in the Enterprise transporter room are involved.
So you can understand how thrilled I was...
Wish me luck Doug. Even though these mods are WAY above my pay grade
I always enjoy your posts.
Keep up the good work. 👍🏻😎
Very nice mod CoolToy. I can't wait to see what else you do to this. We appreciate you.
Thank you so much!
@@cooltoy No problem man.
On/off switch burned out? Solenoids board burned ? Woah. Awesome mod though 👌😍
Yeah, uh ...what?
Cool video but I have to say that is concerning that solenoids and switch stopped working so quickly. Sorry to hear that for you. I was lucky enough to get an AFM preorder in and really don’t want to tinker with it....
Im not buying a arcade1up pinball anytime soon now
@@daviddeming1916 I am concerned, but Cooltoy did say his was a pre-production unit...so maybe they ironed out the issues with the production run? Hopefully that is the case, but I guess we’ll see...
This video is awesome. I really appreciate the links to the things you used. No having to guess.
So Cooltoy I have to ask....what is you favourite Home Pinball cabinet now. Okay now that I got that out of my system back to watching the rest of the video.
😂 I'm just going to get that question made into a shirt at this point.
@@cooltoy I will absolutely buy one haha
I just got my AFM yesterday and had ordered everything I needed to do these mods the same day, with addition of the 21'' LCD you recommended. I played with the stock parts for maybe 20 minutes and couldn't believe the delay that the flippers had on every game. Was so glad to upgrade everything with the ability to play almost any game on the machine that I want, thank you so much for this video.
Glad I could help, enjoy your newly modded machine!
Was looking forward to this video. Didn’t disappoint! I saw you mentioned in one of the comments that your Marvel unit was preproduction. Knowing this type of thing sometimes happens with preproduction units, just a recommendation that you add that to copy accompanying the video. I have AFM on preorder and was a bit concerned at first!
Doug man you truly out did yourself. Excited for this series.
thank you very much.
Dam dude, I actually want the 1 up now. Can't wait to see the updates on this. This one looks so much better than the Atgames especailly with the dmd and that awesome backglass mod!!
This is awesome. Thanks for this! I have the Williams one coming in the mail. I really wish the original graphics were just in 1080 or there was at least an option to switch between even if it meant a frame rate hit. I own literally every table on Pinball FX 3 on steam so the idea of upgrading this to play all those (and the digital backglass hinted at in the end) would be completely awesome.
Nice! Curious as to (approximation) how much each of those upgrade components cost...especially an estimation on the Minimum Computer ($$$) and Recommended Computer ($$$) - Buttons (FREE), Encoder Board ($10), VS Display Board ($32), Y-Splitter Cable ($10). Looking forward to the next videos in this series! Thanks.
Legend. This motivates me more into making my own Virtual Pinball.
Pretty big difference on the flippers! Awesome video dude and excited to see the Advanced Mod.
It's a nice noticeable step up from the 720p
COOLTOY, you're MacGyver'ing the heck out of that thing lol I love it! Can't want to see the next installments.
Wow Doug! - One of your best videos! I am sooo excited to see how you add haptics, accelerometer, and analog plunger to this. I have built my own vpin, but it is lacking those addons. I have been looking into adding them, but getting good info is difficult, most people recommend a very expensive solution $300-700 to add those. I didn't want to spend that much on my first vpin. You always explain things very well, so I am REALLY looking forward to your next video on this. Love the channel, long time subscriber - Take Care :)
It would be great to set up visual pinball on this cab, thanks for this tutorial, made me a little bit more excited about the longevity of these things
I've got VPX and Future Pinball on my PC as well and the games play great on this machine!
Always learning something new from your videos. Awesome content sir
Dude this is epic. Can’t wait for the next mods you previewed. But the fact your A1up components died already... df! Hope they give you money back or a replacement.
doug - you never disappoint - great mod
Thank you 🙏
Thank you so much, I just got the Marvel 1up and u are making my life much easier
Glad to help
I just did this mod today and it all went really smooth. Only thing I would add is you can change contrast and brightness settings of the DMD display with the Nvidia control panel.
Well, I got all of my parts in to start this mod (only thing I'm not doing is adding the nudge buttons). We will see how it goes. Your video seems to be straight forward so I think I'll be able to do this! :-)
best of luck on the modding! 👍
Great video man! Can’t wait too see the haptics, accelerometer and back glass video! Keep up the great work bro!!! 🎮
Can you give some insight or guidance on PC set-up? As in; how to power-on the PC, when it's neatly tucked away and out of reach, and how to launch FX3 (auto-launch at PC power-on?). Interested in achieving: Switch-on the machine, PB-FX3 launches straight away and I'm into the application without any mucking-around. A one button/switch activation would be great :)
That was a lot of good solid impactful information. I will have to keep that in mind if I ever decide to mod one of my three arcade one-up pinballs. I would love to have more of the game repertoire to my cabinets you sir are a genius
Its a little concerning that the stock parts didnt even last a month. Sounds like poor quality control and am now worried about my machine....Great video though.
This Marvel machine was a pre-production machine sent to me for review purposes. I have no way of knowing if the component failure that happened on my machine is a result of bad luck or actual QA issues. Since I have no way to know what, if anything, changed between the pre production and final production runs on these machines.
@@cooltoy You didn't hit up A1U to replace the parts?
@@danielmitchel31310 This is exactly what I was thinking. Why wouldn't you contact them? I'm sure they would have just sent out a replacement for no charge.
@@danielmitchel31310 nope. I didn’t want to ask for replacement parts because I didn’t want to take away from customers who might need those parts more than me
@@cooltoy I understand. Because they'd already given you the unit. You didn't wanna be the hand that keeps asking for more, right?
This is fantastic! I wasn't sure I was going to mod it, but now I'm definitely going to. Thanks COOLTOY!
Brilliant Review❤️🏁👍
Thank you! 👍
Great video @CoolToy everything was cleanly explained. Looking forward to more content in this area.
Love these videos! This man is the G.O.A.T
thanks!
Doug thanks for the very detailed and and awesome mod tutorial. I'd love to see you and Bee maybe do a collaberation livestream together where you guys talk to us about the future upgrades and options you'll be doing with your pinball machines.
Great show as always!
Thanks!
Looking forward to seeing you replace the backglass to a monitor. Great video
Thanks was looking for something like this
Glad it was helpful to you!
Sounds like this is going to be a really fun series of videos to watch! I need more space before buying pinball, but I like the idea of using a PC and changing the back area to a monitor to match the game as opposed to buying multiple VP cabs. I never really took a close look at the DMD before, but I dont understand why they can include something like that without issue on the pinball, yet be so hesitant to confirm inclusion on a Dragon's Lair cab. Hopefully they figure that screen solution out soon. I much rather pay extra for a proper second screen and not possibly using my own, versus getting some deluxe edition that includes another stool or something. Lol.
Sidenote; I know you originally started looking at these products just because they were more cool toys (pun intended) for the community, and now you've sort of been given this extra pressure to *immediately* inform the Arcade1up community of any red flag or update you come across lol. I guess it comes with the territory. Hopefully you are still having fun with everything. I appreciate the videos and whatever you decide to present to us when you have the chance to do so.
Great job man! Typical Arcade1up crap though... broken parts within a month - no replacement parts anywhere in sight on the website - user eats the costs and must mod via 3rd party.
Cool modding video!
I don’t plan to mod my A1UP pinball but this was still a cool watch!
The main reason I don’t plan to mod my A1UP pinball is, when I turn on the machine, I want a streamlined experience. I don’t want a window’s desktop UI, then having to launch Pinball FX with a Bluetooth controller, then exit and properly shutdown the PC through windows again, etc... does this mod or your future mod make it so that you never see a Windows interface or is that inevitable for a PC mod?
How long was it before your stock haptics and switches gave out? And also, would A1UP have replaced them? I just got my A1UP about a week ago, and I’m loving it just the way it is, but if the haptics or switches crap out, I’d love to be able to fix them.
Sorry for all the questions! Great video, very detailed, good visuals to match, and it’s cool seeing how far people push their mods!
Have you thought of adding a small subwoofer to the cabinet? I’ve been thinking of getting one of Arcade1Up’s pinball machines and mod it with the backglass as well - along with a subwoofer.
Excellent video
Thanks for the video. Scary that the pre production unit died so quickly
Glad I avoided this. I’ve heard of multiple units breaking! Great mod!
Love your channel man keep it up
Thank you kindly!
Great job w/ that 1080p!
Thank you!
Excellent video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for this. I was thinking about picking up the Attack From Mars machine but reviews made me sceptical. Now with this mod I believe I'll pull the trigger. Being able to have some of my favorite pinball games and not having to build a cabinet is perfect for me, the novice gamer. I have bought the Sharpin Ultra last year when it came out, for some reason I have very noticeable lag and owner seems not to want to help support US buyers. I see the upgraded 32" monitor and 21" back glass monitor so I will add those projects as well. Thank you again. I'll let you know my progress. I will gift myself Attack From Mars for Father's Day
Ordered Attack from mars from Best Buy, should be here 06/17
You WILL love it, that pinball is FANTASTIC.
Wait when it yells: A T T A C K !!!! at you...
I am doing the same Tim. I just ordered my AFM, both monitors recommended as well as the $160 board that does the accelerometer and provides the updated plunger. I have a small HP Z2 PC that has an i5 processor, 4 display port output ports using its built in nvidia card, 16 GB of ram. I can't wait for all the parts to arrive.
Great work! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Nice job of modding and great video...keep'em coming!
Sorry to hear the A1up components died, so soon. Did A1up even offer to replace them? Nice job on repurposing the existing cabinet. A good lesson for those who already spent good money on this cab, and want to continue using it, with way better replacement hardware, without having to buy, and build a new cabinet. Looking forward to the backglass monitor install video. Thanks for sharing this.
I never asked for replacement parts from Arcade1Up since this was a pre production unit sent to me for review purposes. I didn’t want to ask for replacement parts because I didn’t want to take away from customers who might need those parts more than me.
@@cooltoy Ah, ok.
Very cool introduction for people who are starting on virtual pinball... One note for you, that may help you in the future. Dont put the dmd or backglass on TOP ot the playfield or to the LEFT... you'll have issues with future upgrades in other type of pinballs like visual pinball, future pinball, and if you use pinup player or popper... negative values are ok with pinball fx or even pinball arcade but you'll have problems with the rest.
Yea, I'm fully aware of that. But since the main focus was for just the main playfield and the dmd scoreboard in FX3 only for this video I wanted to make it super simple for people. I'll show the other method of having the monitors arranged side by side in other videos where I have the back glass monitor installed and am also running VPX and Future Pinball.
Love the video .. I'm looking in to digital right now because the real pinball machines have got insane in price .. so of course after watching all these upgrades I wanna just upgrade right away a new digital one up machine .. is there a better way to go ?? THANKS MAN I HIT THE LIKE AND Subscribe BUTTON . .LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE
What specific graphics card are you using in the optiplex? Can it be any GTX 970? It has to have at least 3 video outputs correct? Thanks for the vid...can't wait for the others.
3 if you want to do the additional back glass screen also, only 2 if you just want the scoring LCD and playfield. I'm using a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 D6 OC Low Profile 4GB graphics card in this particular PC.
CoolToy,
Wow! This has to be your best tutorial yet! Amazing and thank you! Thank you also for confirming the stock Arcade1up monitor resolution as 1080p. So cool!
I had one quick question if you have a moment. It is a bit worrisome that the Marvel Cabinet started breaking down after such a short period of time. Do you think this is because it's not a retail unit? Or, since you got to really take it apart, and you also own the Star Wars retail cabinet, that the Arcade1up pinballs might just have a short lifespan? I know this is a VERY SMALL case study to look at, but would just be curious to hear your thoughts. $549 to $600 might be a bit pricey for a machine that will only last a month or two. I was seriously considering the Attack From Mars, but now I'm not sure.
Thanks as always for the great content and at least we know we have an out if the machine does break down quicker than we'd like. I also own all the Zen tables on Steam (and also Pinball Arcade before it lost all it's licenses, Addams Family Baby!) and it would be nice to play them without having to re-buy them on another platform :)
Have a great one!
vgv
Well, I know that you specifically said that you do not "suggest buying a $600 arcade 1up cabinet for the sole purpose of modding it" so I paied $850 (Canadian) instead. Looking forward to modding!
enjoy your new machine!
Amazing job! 🥃
The two dislikes are most likely not Bill Murray fans. Awesome shirt.
Murray is the man!
Wow, can't believe it has that kind of problems already.
This is amazing thanks!
Glad you like it!
Awesome. Really appreciate the detailed mod info. Shame about the stock controller board dying so quickly (quality issue or just bad luck?). This looks like a no-brainer upgrade for most people who have a spare PC around to power their steam collection. Cheers!
My Marvel machine was a pre production unit sent to me for review purposes. I have no real way of knowing for sure if it was bad luck or a quality issue, since I do not know what may or may not have changed in the manufacturing process when the retail ready units were made.
@@cooltoy No big deal either way. There is an inherent failure rate of all electronics so let's just chalk it up to bad luck. Fortunately, as you proved it's really not that big a deal to upgrade/replace these parts for minimal cost. My guess is that after shipping costs are factored in, that A1up isn't making that much on these units, so it's still a great value overall as a vpin cab that can be modded.
Incredible job!!
Damn the unit already fried? Great video. I am going to do this on mine but I have to get a bigger screen.
I did this mod yesterday. Your video was really helpful, some of the connections are a bit confusing. The DMD works in Windows, but haven't gotten it to work with the tables yet. I got Pinball FX and FX3. FX3 works really well, but I wanted to play Mandalorian, and that is through FX. I got a bundle of 2 games with FX. The flippers work with one, but not Mandalorian. Definitely still have some more work.
I'm conflicted on what to do. Do I take this farther and get the better encoder and upgrade my PC? I would love to upgrade the screen, the stock display is not great. There are so many tutorials out there, the more I look at this stuff, the more I want to do. But...with the stock PCB, everything works. I loaded all 30 tables plus the Zen and Pinball Arcade mod. It's easy. I don't think I will go back to stock, but it's tempting. Just depends how much time, money and effort I want to spend.
Edit: I got the flippers in Mandalorian to work. I had already setup Joytokey to work with FX3, and the keys are different in FX. I just went in and set the FX keys to match what I had set for Joytokey. Still don't know why the DMD is displaying my second Windows screen but not the game's DMD. I'll figure it out.
For Max users, I wonder if you can run Parallels and use a Mac mini?!
Great video, Cooltoy! I realize your model is preproduction, but that is concerning to have that many parts quit working so soon. I’m looking forward to getting my AFM cab, but am a bit concerned about the parts quality now.
Doug can I ask what type of computer / graphics card you went with? Trying to price out mine to do the same?
Thanks so much for a great and informative video. You mentioned that you don't recommend getting one of these if your intent is just to mod them. Any other kits you'd recommend? I love the Star Wars theme and really would need that smaller scale of cabinet for my room, so modding this cabinet seems like a solid fit for me. I'm much more comfortable on the PC modding side than in building a cabinet from scratch, so some sort of kit appeals.
Hey Doug, I assume this is unrelated to the mod that lets you play just the 1up Zen tables? Does that still work? If I own the tables via Switch does that count? Or do you have to go through steam. I’m hooked on Vpinball (didn’t think I would since I have a real Bally machine). Thanks for the videos!
Yes this is unrelated to that new mod. This plays the PC versions of these games through steam which are far superior to the android versions in just about every measurable way.
So with the PC mod you lose the functionality of the stock analog plunger? Also are there two separate display connections for the play field and DMD or do they run off the same lvds connector? Thanks a lot man for you help on this you're a lifesaver.
Can you only use the VSDISPLAY just to improve the stock screen quality to 1080p or do you really need a pc also? I am only interested in doing a screen mod to inprove quality & contrast from the stock screen. Please let me know.
I don't believe the monitor has the capability to save any settings, so once you remove the VSDISPLAY adapter you would lose whatever changes you made.
@@cooltoy Tks for responding. Can I just simply add VSDISPLAY HDMI VGA DVI Audio LCD Controller Board without the need a pc? The only mod I am interested is really screen resolution on the stock.
Wow I'm wondering how long before others have the same issues with their cabinets, imagine after all the waiting you play a few weeks and kaput! Just another reason I'm glad I cancelled my pre-order after all the excitement and anticipation!!
hi. thanks for taking the time to make these mod videos, really enjoying the series. One thing i am unable to find (i may have over looked) is what video card you are using in your PC or are you just using on board graphics from the I5? if so, does it handle all 3 monitors without anything else needed? thanks in advance for any help.
I used a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 D6 OC Low Profile 4GB
Fancy modding man! Too bad the machine clunked out on ya but looks like something good came out of it.
I think we’re all very concerned about the broken parts. That’s too soon. I’m rethinking the Star Wars cab when it becomes available in 2024.
I think the fact that these Arcade 1up components are failing already is a bigger story and needs to be addressed. Have you reached out to them for replacements or information?
Great video! Thanks so much--i used the teachings herein to repurpose my arcade1up pinball into a dedicated Pc-based pinball fx3 cabinet. Quick question: would it be possible to connect the power for the DMD/speakers/backlight into a USB port in the PC, using some sort of barrel-to-USB adapter, so that the entire shootin' match powers up when I power up the PC? Or is there a way to power everything off of the PC power supply?
EXCELLENT JOB....
Good joob🎉
I wish someone would just figure out if/how you can just copy games from the other Arcade1Up pinball tables. Like take Marvel tables and add them to the Star Wars one, etc
can't be done.
Oh man. They’re already breaking down. I hope A1Up gets these issues ironed out as I really planned to get one.
Thanks for the awesome video. I grabbed this converter board for my PC's HDMI to the monitor. Thank you. If I wanted to convert PCB to HDMI (so that I could add an HDMI switch and run either system) what do you recommend to convert PCB into hdmi?
Cool build! So what video card are you throwing in that Optiplex 9020? That PSU is fairly limited. I guess you are having to use low rise cards too.
Yes low profile cards for these SFF models. You can use a 1650 or 1050ti card
I believe you mentioned on your channel that your Marvel was a preproduction unit sent by A1Up and you bought the Star Wars because of your Star Wars love. Do you think the board and solenoids went kaput on the Marvel unit because it's a free preproduction unit? I have a Star Wars A1Up table that I spent my hard earned dollars on. I love it! But, I'd be raging if the solenoids and board were fried so soon after release. As always, thank you for the vid and for sharing your mods!
I have no way to know the cause of my issue. I have a Star Wars pinball machine as well and the solenoids and relay are still working just fine on it
Honestly, Arcade1up could have sold these cabinets as DIY kits, they would have sold just as well. Good size for mini vpin.
Very cool! Can you show off Indiana Jones pinball from 1993? :)
Wow at the poor QC on the stock units. A1UP really needs to turn it around quick on these.
i had the dmd and sound go out i did a 22 inch lcd mod for the back glass have my dmd on there for now would be good for art work
Sorry to be a jerk. I have a marvel machine; can I just buy at plug n play board that is ready to go? Or, set up so I can buy and add games to the machine that I have? I like the look and size of my machine. The play field, I can live with. I just would like a few more games....
Probably a dumb question, but is there any way to get the stock On/Off switch to turn on/off the PC? I know you can buy buttons with wires that plug into the motherboard, but I'd really like to use the built in toggle switch. Maybe some sort of wire converter or something between the existing wires and the PC plug?
HI AWESOME AWESOME VIDEO. Just a quick question the three outputs from pc what are they all hdmi?
cheers
damian
They are outputs not inputs, and they don’t have to be hdmi. They can be whatever format your monitors accept as inputs
I want to do this mod and 32" monitor mod at same time. Do I need to buy all those parts?
Wouldn't a mini pc work as well too instead of having a normal pc. Like how much ram do you need to run pinball, an how much memory? Couldn't you use a mini pc with 16g with 256?
Virtual pinball is highly taxing on ram and gpu’s. A mini pc is just going fill you with compromises in performance and make you wish you used something different. Mini PCs are great for arcade emulation, but not so much at virtual pinball running high frame rates with multiple monitors
Awesome to see, can't wait to see future vids.. Curious, if you feel 24" feels small compared to the 32" now that both are running 1080p. Wanting to pull the trigger on vpin cab, whether it be one of the offerings or a flat pack, but still stuck on screen size, which can influence price of either. I feel 24 is too small.
If you feel 24 is too small, don't buy the machine plain and simple. Go with whatever your gut tells you and what you think would make you the happiest overall.
@@cooltoy lol. How did I know that would be your response. 😎
So I just got the marvel 1up machine. The previous owner modded it so I have all the marvel boards, all the Star Wars boards and Williams boards. If I understand you correctly, I would need a pc and a different pcb in order to utilize the stock playfield at 1080 correct? In other words, what is the bare minimum I would need to get 1080 resolution from the stock board and not lose haptics or accelerometer?