JJ Watt GETS HEATED At People Calling For NFL To Ban "Hip Drop Tackles" | Pat McAfee Show
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It’s funny how the NFL is hellbent over banning all these tackles that not one NFL player is complaining about but won’t touch the issue on banning turf when almost every player complains about it.
Turf is cheaper for owners. No reason to beat around the bush here
Banning tackles, but allowing domestic abusers continue to play*
Edit: Tyreek Hill. Idgaf what records he breaks he's a POS.
It would be phenomenal if a high-profile NFL player saw this comment and began to recite it Word for Word at all of their press conferences for the rest of the year before just walking off stage.
It’s a business decision. Star players sell tickets so they’re protecting them. It makes sense even though it doesn’t make sense
And thursday night football
It's crazy that we get to watch football destroy itself in real time.
Oh it is happening and its sad.. Flag Football in the Olympics is the sign for the future, it's all headed to just lame 7 on 7 with no physicality.
Let’s see you go out there. Easy to say from our couch.
@@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139 ?? Get out where? On the field? What does that have to do with bad rule changes?
@@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139what a dumb and useless comment
More popular than ever though. So I am sure the higher upside don't see anything as 'ruined' about it.
JJs segment has quickly become such a highlight of the show every week
Glad he called out the NFL's hypocrisy of playing on Thursdays. It's all such bs.
The NFL thinks they can stop injuries and the funny thing is with all their precautions we're on the 60th QB starting this year.
Guys used to play on carpet on cement slabs and there weren’t this many injuries
That’s wild, I didn’t realize that
This has nothing to do with stopping QB injuries though.
@@snakezula That's true, but it just shows you, despite the complete overhaul of rules about the QB, the league still loses like 30% of its QBs every year.
I swear these guys are going to turn JJ into the incredible hulk pushing his buttons 😂
It's like JJ gets more and more angry each week and I love it 😂😂
Don't make him angry.......you wouldn't like him when he's angry..........
Butkus,Deacon Jones,Nitschke,Night Train Lane,and Jack Tatum are all spinning in their graves right now.........
N 90s defense players
Let's ban certain tackles because they're dangerous, but continue to have dangerous surfaces that our players break their ligaments and bones on almost every single week. It makes no sense to me.
Not to mention, just having to play on a short week (sometimes two or three timers per year) is also contributing to a lot of injuries, but they won't do anything about that either.
Well, we are talking about a league that has systematically tweaked rules for decades to favor passing while simultaneously parsing what constitutes a catch to the point of absurdity. This is on brand.
simply put, they want more offensive production at any cost, while limiting their overhead costs by using crappy turf. Mecedes Benz Stadium in 2026 will switch the turf out for real grass for the the fifa cup, then they are going to take the grass back out and put turf back in. Ridiculous.
Players can get hurt on any surface, turf grass concrete glass. I’ve been saying a hip drop tackle isn’t good since dak got his ankle sniped against the giants. It’s basically a defender wrapping up around their neck and dropping their weight which ultimately goes into the players ankles and knees resulting in injury. Just like we got rid of facemask tackles and horse collar tackles too
But one is for more money
I’ve often wondered why they dont bring back “in the grasp.” A defender is stuck between a large QB or RB being allowed to escape or drag them for additional yards or taking them down in a harsh manner. The leagues desire for yards after initial stoppage leads to these tackles.
Don’t go low, don’t go high, don’t lead with helmet, don’t hit their helmet, no horse collar, no hip drop.
Good luck to defense.
Don't touch the WR, don't hit them when they go across the middle. Wait until they catch before hitting them. Don't tackle the QB High or low or with your body weight.
It's getting ridiculous
I remember watching Pros vs Joes . The guy (s) they had trying to tackle former Falcon Jamal Anderson didn't stand a chance and even as a 50 yr old man Herschel Walker was still running guys over so just imagine how hard it is to tackle a NFL player in their prime
what if the defense gave up hip drop tackles and the offense stopped targeting the defense with their helmets?
NFL will be national Flagfootball league soon enough
Soon to be playing with tin foil hats and wearing bras.. While giving out hugs and kisses on the field
Might as well be at this point. With the addition of flag football in the Olympics, it could be coming soon
NFFL
@@AttilatheThrilla we could call it sarcastaball
CTE will eventually be the cause for all contact sports to be eliminated. So obvious
Defense: "THEYTOOKOURJOBS!"
It's DeyTookRJobs!!!!!!!
@@OG_MajinVegetaTKKKOORRJBBBS
The NFLs best days are long gone
Derrick Henry is officially untackleable if they "outlaw" that lol
One of my favorite sports shows to watch. Living for Toxicity and violence they choose.
The Lou Holtz interveing Lou Holtz may absolute favorite
Most rules changes lately are specifically aimed at weakening the defense. Hate it. But love JJ's shirt!
The referees should focus on: if the swivel hip-drop tackle was necessary to bring the player down or not. If it wasn't necessary, then it should be a penalty.
So you can't "horse collar" and now they want to ban "hip dropping" (otherwise known as "tackling")...so how exactly are you supposed to tackle someone from behind without giving up 15 extra yards on every play?
I guess they have to start putting flags on the offensive players...
For those who don’t know, what they are calling a “hip drop tackle” is when a player wraps up a player and then sits down essentially. SOMETIMES it can catch feet which SOMETIMES leads to injury. Completely braindead to even consider banning it, especially when the only alternative is perfect form wrestling takedown tackles. Everyone is so soft, this is such a joke
Let’s not pretend that NFL players do proper form tackling anyway. 99% of all tackles you see are just a dude shoulder checking someone.
@@kman9884 Yeah because if they do damn near anything other than hit with a shoulder they get penalized and fined.
Broke my ankle from a hip drop tackle
@FO1692 maybe you should've been faster 😂
@@ZedzDed311 Didn't a hip drop tackle take out Bo Jackson?
It’s a tackle. Defenses are already hamstringed with all the rules. They would be dumb to ban the hip drop
NFL becoming the NBA-
All Offense No Defense
the players assoc. sued the NFL over concussions and are now confused about these rule changes, wild.
It already feels like watching a fixed boxing match
Welcome to the average man’s workforce JJ. Decisions being made by people that have never dont the job.
“Player safety” is ruining the NFL and it’s disgusting. The NFL is already unrecognizable from what it was 10 years ago
AJ looks so pleased someone besides him is saying this out loud.
Tell em JJ!!! MUCH RESPECT!!!❤❤❤
2 hands tag!! Hell yeah
These guys are the awesome 👏 just got turned on to your show. Top notch talent 👊
Love JJ!! So real always have been
Love JJ's flabbergasted response. That seems appropriate.
They need to narrow the field to give the defense some advantage
The problem is not the form of the tackle; the problem is the ground. Earth and grass minimize injuries, across the board.
If the league *truly* cared about player safety, in any small way, they would eliminate artificial surfaces.
JJ's face when Pat is explaining the tackle :D
Hip Drop tackles are something that got banned in rugby league a few years back. from then to now the same conversation you guys had over this are had here in australia about the rugby league Hipdrops, there is still alot of confusion... there is proof that it causes injuries, but there's also others that aren't dangerous that get called. Importantly in both sports the tackle wasn't an issue until other types of tackles were banned and that happened because of court cases against various leagues for not protecting players enough. It sucks but so does having your leg broken so its an unsolvable problem
When you watch professional football players utilize this tackle you can see them look at the legs before they throw their body weight at them. They never stay back to make sure the player is okay after they've injured them. It's almost always intentional.
Hey you’re saying something smart watch out the white people wont be able to understand
"unsolvable" 😂 don't want YOUR leg broken? Don't play a game with a ball and tackling.... Don't change the rules of the game. The fans shouldn't lose out because the league wants to keep high profile faces. It's football
@@eats4cheaps305 they aren't intentionally trying to injure them... They're trying to tackle them by any means. It's football. They don't have to play. They all go to college and have a chance for a degree. They all make plenty of money to only play a year or 2 and get a real job.... They all have the choice to leave. Dont change the rules of a game that fans love.
@@thomasdanley7642 i would almost completely agree, but unfortunately all the former players who have sued the leagues they used to play in because they got injured means leagues have had to act this way.
I am more worried about the turf. I had to give up all my rec sports in my 40s because running around on that concrete with the shredded up tire bits, my knee felt like it was going to blow out from the inside
When these topics come up, my first thought is the South Park "Sarcastaball" episode.
The NFL needs to be very careful to not entirely ruin the sport, because some would argue it’s already there… but if you can’t grab somebody and try to fall down with them… what are we allowed to do
Spot on take!
I didn't know what a hip drop tackle was till this video and had to Google it.
My take is this and quoting from Denzel in Remember The Titans.... "Let the boys play! "
Watt said don't piss on me and tell me it's raining son
AJ over there laughing in complete agreement
It's a variation of the "turd-drop tackle" just a little less nasty..People have been known to slip and get hurt on those things.
Its gonna move to practice rules, two hands on a QB in the pocket is a sack, and basically any tackling is going to be flagged 🤷♂This is America. its about the money, not the game, or the players, or the fans.
i kinda disagree.. its def about the money, but also kinda about the players... the NFL realizes that the product that they put out weekly, diminishes when star players get hurt, so the solution it to figure out how to not let them get hurt
@@prestoBMXsonly a complete buffoon would think you can stop guys from getting injured in a contact sport
Warren Sharp didn't make up the term, it comes from the NRL - the Rugby League competition in Australia/New Zealand.
What people advocating for hip drop rules won't tell you is that when the NRL made rules about it, they fucked it up so badly that they had to change their interpretations mid-season. Simple tackles where the ball carrier made a half break but couldn't get completely free of the tackler ended up getting called 'hip drops' because the ball carrier's momentum fighting through contact swung the tackler into the ball carriers legs.
Also worth noting that it was only necessary to bring those rules into Rugby League because of other stupid rules encouraging players to be held up and then brought to ground with precision timing to benefit the defense (giving more time for them to get set for the next play). The NFL does not have this situation as there is a definitive stop to play after a tackle is made (and the defense doesn't have to drop back 10 metres after every play), so there is no inherent incentive to perform a hip drop, unlike in Rugby League. It's just a totally different situation.
It's just not worth opening a can of worms for a play that isn't actually a systemic problem in the NFL. If it does happen, the way they define hip drops has to be very narrow criteria (completely stopped momentum, initial contact above the waist, drops weight directly and forcefully onto the ball carriers lower body after momentum has stopped - ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE PRESENT) with a very high bar, basically only for plays that the defender could reasonably only be trying to hurt the ball carrier.
We’re on the road to having puppy bowls every week.
Sorry i played ball for ages and never employed a hip drop tackle. Didn’t really ever experience one either. It’s the same argument of the horse collar. Slippery slope fallacy.
They’ve been a thing in rugby league in Australia for the last two years. Only difference is NRLs definition is weight onto the back of the legs. NFL I think is worried about weight on the side of the legs. By the way the enforcement of hip drop tackles in the NRL hasn’t gone particularly well
it would be even worse on the NFL as there’s already a ton of rules that skew the game in the offense’s favor. Football today is night and day to what it was even 10-15 years ago it’s a damn shame
Ok that was great.
Insane!
1:55 JJ Watt saying the Quiet Part out loud
More than 40 years of legislating the FOOTBALL out of football. No wonder so many of us only rarely tune in anymore.
I don’t know if you can do that but it is nasty when you see someone get immediately yanked down from behind and the knees get ripped apart. Same reason horse collar got banned. But I mean.. how do you bring someone down from behind without dropping your weight down?
If you don't want to get hit or hurt playing football then you always have the option to slide and give yourself up. The NFL won't turn into flag football, it's going to turn into the NBA. Casual viewers don't care about sports, they just want to see scoring.
it may as well already be with all the ticky tacky nonsense as far as holding etc
Sounds like something arbitrary that the Referees will call whenever the wrong team is doing well.
Football without violence is boring
This is like a few years ago when then NFL didn't know what a catch was. It's going to be a highly debatable rule that can't be called consistently because it's too vague.
At this rate, the NFL will help the fans move away from watching it.
Main rule that needs to be removed is the slide rules. If a qb runs he gets the same treatment a rb, wr, or anyone else gets. Once they end that bs then we'll see how many of these mobile qbs really turn out.
the slide rule on paper is fine, the problem is late slides and how determining if it was too late or not is subjective and difficult at game speed
Slides are fine but the roughing the passer calls have gotten outrageous.
Half the times qb’s don’t start the slide til after the defensive player launches. It’s ridiculous
Not sure if you know this but any player carrying the ball can slide or kneel to “down” themselves or “give up”. Not just the QB. Might wanna look it up. I dont understand your argument for a rule that literally exists for everyone.
@@Helmet_Head_ yep that’s the rule anybody can give themselves up. Glad you pointed that out.
I came here to see a demo of a 'hip drop tackle' ... I didn't see one, c'mon!! :p
It’s like that episode from South Park
NFL need to listen to this
JJ was seeing Red lol
That's the tackle that has caused everything gruesome leg break. That's how Jordan Travis broke his leg, and I saw a close call today.
These alligator rolls are trending, busting ankles all over.
Anyone else hear Freddie Prinze Jr's voice when JJ talks?? Lol I just noticed it
Crazy that the NFL doesn’t realize they have tons and tons of problems that need to be addressed ASAP (refs, gambling, and this for example) but since they are making so much money and “smash ratings” every year they don’t see there is a problem at all until it’s too late like Disney with Star Wars and Marvel
Yo pat, is espn making you wears shirts now?
need to have practices and training camp to be allowed to actually get guys ready for the contact of football
If that doesn't justify excessive pay raises, then what does?🙄
Apparently a hip drop tackle is the defensive player approaches from behind or the side, wraps his arms around the offensive player and becomes dead weight while dropping to the ground. Often, the defensive player's body lands on the offensive player's legs. But I agree with JJ like no one really knows this was a thing and at some point you're just nit-picking
That’s not the definition. Quit talking out your ass and read the rugby rule.
I love how pissed jj is he didn’t give af about being political with the league
How do get a player down if they ban most forms of stopping the offense.
Beautiful del boca vista shirt.
One of, if not the, best DBs in history.
Doesn’t “turf” cause more injuries than tackling?
Watching this I only have 1 thought.. We will have to endure Roger's dumb rule changes, but after the Goodell era I'm hoping we get an actual former NFL player as a commish
They should just ban all tackles and Qb sneaks
What they need to do is ban turf but they don’t want to address that…
Quarterbacks back in the day used to take pride in sucking it up and pushing through relatively rough injuries. They wanted to show they were one of the boys just like everyone else but now it’s a glamorize position as is every other offensive spot besides the line now in days, if you make football physical again, you force the players to improve, get smarter, and be more aware!
No spearing, no crazy slams but like full speed contact over the middle is a banger! A great full send QB sack! Come on! Bring back the testosterone and high impact hits! Dawkins style baby
They’re just looking for more ways to selectively choose the winners of each game with penalties that could be called on every play
Countdown to when defenses just become holograms that simulate a defense.
I know what he wants to say about the former players that allow this crap. "Smells like corruption, man."
everyone was glad JJ was on the other side of the camera, he was getting riled up.
Might as well give the defenders pomps so that they can cheer for the other side.
If you banned it, wouldnt it almost preven ANY tackle from behind where you drag the player down?
Them banning the hip drop tackle is literally just to save the guys ankle from getting absolutely chicken winged. Coaches teach you to put your head to the side but to also alligator roll to ensure he gets to the ground
sooner or later ur gonna have to let them walk in the endzone😂
Let's just ban all tackling. That'll work.
If they don't know what a hip drop tackle is, and don't believe it's a thing, why are they complaining about it being removed? it's like a kid complaining about not being allowed to do something they never tried.
It is funny when you see rich folks have to deal with bureaucratic/managerial shlt that we have to deal with on a daily basis.
This is more proof that the nfl doesn’t care and is not going to fix the officiating issues. If they really wanted to fix it, they wouldn’t be adding more rules that will make the refs job harder.
There is just no way a defender is going to pull down a running back from behind without using their weight.
Yeah J.J. is right. "This former player that we've paid says its a problem"
It probably comes from Aus and the NRL it’s a massive issue over here at the moment and was banned this year.
While they're at it the defenders should be forced to let the receiver catch the ball and run 5 yards before they touch them
The only hip tackle I can point out after 20+ years of watching and living football is the injury to Dak Prescott in his MVP year against the giants and pollard against San Fran in playoffs last season with Fred Warner…. I’m a cowboys fan and I’m saying don’t ban anything, its what happens when the player refuses to go down when you tackle him. Don’t punish the defense anymore than you already have NFL
if u Google Hip Drop Tackle....a bunch of rugby plays come up. Most looked dangerous and illegal but ive not seen those tackles in the NFL. Most were used in conjunction with a horsecollar grab which is already illegal. Don't think it needs to be emphasized but should be clearly defined because in rugby it is a dangerous technique.
love how the nfl has done all this stuff to protect players yet this year BY FAR has the most injuries especially to QB’s
It's easy, go look up the tackle that knocked out Riley Leonard's season (Duke QB playing Notre Dame). That's a hip drop tackle.
Lets just ban defense all together.