For those who don't know, a lot of the things the Pats do that end up getting changed are rules loop holes that ol' Bill specifically has submitted to the rules committee as an issue and then does them after they don't change the rule in the off-season.
@@ckmoore101 Nobody said that. He does it to win. He just doesn't feel like it's in the spirit of the game, but if the rules allow it and nobody wants to change the rules, then why not show them the problem in a game and give his team an advantage?
One that I believe is now banned in the NCAA is the "lie down and blend into the end zone paint and then jump up and take a lateral on a kickoff" play. It's not a penalty, but if a player is lying down before the play the officials are instructed to blow the whistle and treat it as an injury--play stops, player has to leave for the play.
I'm sure crouching is probably okay. Anything besides your feet and maybe hands on the ground, though, no. We know the pretend-to-be-on-the-sideline play is illegal, the Browns tried that with Johnny Manziel running a route and had a TD called back (I'm sure the rule is the same in college).
Jordan B better than them tho. Sam Koch actually better technical punter he can put it ANYWHERE he wants it and has crazy ball control, there a little video on it NFL did. And Tucker is the best kicker in NFL history statistically, and he’s clutch ASF
@@toadofsteel it wasn’t holding in the super bowl well I guess if you want to get technical you could make a case but there’s holding on every play at anytime just look close
@@cwowcwon998 Oh there was holding, just went uncalled for whatever reason. (Personally I blame the long-ass delay when the lights failed in the superdome)
A match can't end in a defensive penalty (Rogers must thank that in Detroit in that hail Mary) but it was 4th down, so technically it was a offensive play. It was genuinely a genius call haha
Thinking about the play at 2:04, the Ravens needed the kickoff to not take any time off the clock, so that they could use the two-minute warning to stop the clock on defense. So they essentially forced the returner to do a fair catch. Very smart play by the Ravens special teams
There are a couple layers to this. One not mentioned is that for a drop kick to be legal, you have to kick the ball virtually simultaneously to it hitting the ground. You can’t bounce it that high and then kick it. Also, they did that because they were hoping to kick the ball high enough to give the coverage team time to get under it and possibly catch it. If the Ravens were concerned about the two minute warning, there are simpler ways to make sure time doesn’t come off the clock. Their kicker could put the ball through the end zone in his sleep. That’s be option 1a
The best part about Belichick's clock running shithousery is that the Titans turned around and did it to the Pats in the playoffs and Bill almost had an aneurysm he was so heated
@@debjoy12Not to defend belicheat, but this would be one of the time’s he’d been in the right. He did this in a game that was already decided and pretty much only did it so say “hey NFL, there’s a pretty bad exploit in the rules, someone needs to update it or this will happen in a game that actually matters”, which ended up happening. He wasn’t cheating to win in this case, but more-so to show how someone could cheat and why it should be fixed.
@@debjoy12 I love when smarter than the other guy is "cheating" 🤣🤣 The best is when you take away the "Cheating" and the pats do even better😂😂 colts deflatgate 1st half vs 2nd half, Hit brady with a 4 game suspension and they win the SuperBowl. I think they were just better...huh? Vrabel has how many rings as Head coach??🤔 Vrabel has how many rings with Brady & Bill B.?😉
@@patwiggins6969 Belichick did the delay of game/false start one intentionally, to show the league, hey this is a stupid rule. Change it. Hence why he did it when the score was 33-0.
The situations were very different. Bellechick did it in a game that no longer mattered, to show the NFL there is a huge flaw in their rule book. He wanted the rule to get changed in a game that was 33-0. Vrabel did it when the game still mattered. Of course bill wasn't happy. One was done for a "hey you dumbasses look at this dumb rule". The other was done to intentionally run the clock down to win a game. One was done with good intentions, the other was done maliciously. Although i will agree. It is nice to Bellechick get Bellechicked.
3:45 Here it could be that time when Mike Vrabel's Titans did it to Belichick. Seeing Bill angry about something HE was the first to exploit is more entertaining.
It wasn't him "exploiting" it, he did it in a game that was entirely over gaining no competitive advantage except ending a 5 possession pointless game a little sooner. He did it in order to get the league to actually see the issue and fix the loophole that he wanted fixed as he stated after the game that it needed to be fixed asap. If he actually wanted to exploit it he would have saved it and done it in a game and situation that actually mattered AT ALL instead of late in a blowout. They didn't fix the rule and then it was used in a close playoff game to gain a competitive advantage so yes he was naturally annoyed that they wouldn't fix it before the playoffs when he literally displayed for them how it could be potentially abused and tried to get it changed.
Yeah field goals aren’t entertaining anymore. It’s just a matter of if the kicker misses or not. Rarely do the defenders ever successfully block the kick with their hands.
Big Ben's pump fake was not even an arm motion, he straight up did the full throwing motion at speed without letting the ball go? Was kinda crazy you almost need eagle claws to keep the ball from not leaving your hand just from its momentum alone. Camera went straight to the endzone and was like hey what happened here lol. Not even a fan of cross state team but that was pretty beast mode
FYI: In case anyone cares. It's not a big deal but at 1:52, that's not illegal. There's an unbalanced line and the QB throws to the outer-most man on that side of the line of scrimmage ("uncovered lineman") which is the TE with an eligible number, so he doesn't have to report to the officials pre-play. Even today, not an illegal play in the NFL, college or high school. It was never banned.
The illegal part of that play now is that Gronk was an eligible receiver and he's inside of Vereen, who is an ineligible receiver. You can't have an ineligible receiver "cover up" an eligible receiver like that anymore. If you wanted to run that play today, the player in Gronk's position would have to be in the backfield.
That first one was brilliant. Tell your defense hold do whatever to stop the rush and by time to end the game with the punter waiting as long as possible for the safety. The holding not allowing any additional plays is a brutal rule
Yep. Which is precisely why these days the Ravens would be required to do a free kick after surrendering the safety. But with since there'd be zero seconds on the clock anyway, the Bengals would have no choice but to try to win on fluky laterals.
I would love to see an update for this with what happened a week or so later to the Pats. Belichick wasn't smiling so much when the shoe was on the other foot.
@@joeylawn36111 The fumbling player can advance the ball regardless of time remaining or down. Inside of the two minute warning, if another offensive player recovers the fumble, the play is blown dead at the spot of the fumble (or spot of the recovery, whichever is further back).
In regards to the infamous Kenny Stabler fumble that Dave Casper fell on in the end zone, I think the refs blew the call even with the rules as they were back then. They should have ruled it an incomplete forward pass and penalized Stabler for intentional grounding.
Yes, it should have been ruled an incomplete forward pass. Stabler threw the ball forward and it hit the ground uncaught. That's ALWAYS an incomplete pass.
Exactly. I don't get why there's always been this debate about intentional fumble or offense advancing a fumble or whatever. Just because he tossed it underhanded doesn't change the fact that it was a forward pass that fell incomplete.
@@jeffallen55 A distinction always needs to be made as to whether he released the ball INTENTIONALLY (which is a pass) or whether he lost control UNINTENTIONALLY (which is a fumble). If a player unintentionally loses control of the ball -- even if it goes forward -- then it's NOT an incomplete pass but rather a fumble and a live ball.
Stabler's scoop and forward toss of the ball was definitely intentional, thus I would agree with the ruling of an incomplete forward pass. I would not agree with intentional grounding though, because he was hit as he threw the ball - a common exception to the rule. HOWEVER: Look at where Stabler was when he threw the ball. It appears his feet were at the Charger 13-yard-line, while the line of scrimmage was the Charger 15. Therefore, his pass was from beyond the LOS, making it an illegal forward pass. Either way, if replay review were allowed back then, the call on the field would have been overturned. I can't blame the officials though. They had one look, at full speed. Given that, I probably would have ruled the same way they did.
@@redneckgamer1888 that's exactly why Belichick used it in an earlier game in the season, with no competitive gain by doing so it was to show the NFL the loophole and how it could be abused. Then vrabel used it in a playoff game.
@@dannywilliams3764 so youre saying Bill was trying to be the good guy? you dont know what was going on his head. All we know is that he took advantage of a loophole to be a dickhead for no reason.
@@simon1990101 A game can still end on an offensive penalty if it happens organically instead of on purpose. If a team purposely commits a foul that's when the unfair act rule comes into play
@@Z64sports That's not entirely accurate. The first play in this clip would not classify as an "unfair act." The NFL's rule on deliberate fouls is open-ended but covers only "successive or repeated fouls to prevent a score." "On November 27, 2016, the Baltimore Ravens took a safety, conceding 2 points of their 7-point lead. They committed numerous holding fouls to ensure that they could exhaust the final 11 seconds of the game. This was not a palpably unfair act because it did not recur (and was not done "to prevent a score" but in fact while conceding points)."
I like how Mike Vrabel turned the trick back on Belichick during a playoff game. Remember, he used to play for the guy, now he's the head coach of the Titans. I also love how you included the Holy Roller.
I *think* (not sure) it's the same in the NFL, but the Jets declined the penalty so the clock continued to run. If it had been accepted, I believe the clock would have stopped, but I'm not sure of that.
@@encycl07pedia- Correct. Had the Jets taken the penalty the clock would have stopped and the Pats would have moved back 5 yards. Since the Jets kept declining the clock kept ticking down and the spot never moved.
The NFL needs to allow more trick plays!! It'll allow play callers more creativity and keep the game more interesting. They continue to make rule changes to enhance the game so why not allow coaches add a few surprises in their game plan!!
If they’re going to allow some of these high flying offenses, then allow some of these plays. Fast pace offenses exploit rules, just like gimmick plays. Some offenses- like what Gus Malzahn runs (college of course) are really a gimmick as an entire package.
Belichick had the same thing done to him a week or two later and was flipping out. Yelling and screaming at the refs. Didn't smile so much when the shoe was on the other foot
I wanna say Belichick actually wanted a rule change regarding that previously, but it didn't get passed, so he demonstrated the potential for abuse against the Jets to make a point. Unfortunately, seems the Titans were taking notes....
When I played in HS, our kickoff return team used the Flying Wedge. It was highly successful but for us, but it did cost a lot of concussions of both our players and the other teams.
I really love see how people make creative tactic and get it banned. That's the very way that many sports have been evolved; like various codes of football evolved from medieval football.
I mean...I love that you put the fumblerooski in here and showing love to the genius that was Tom Osbourne's Huskers...but they're NCAA in a video labelled as NFL. Still, thanks for the love.
What exactly has been banned in regards to jumping over the center to block a kick? As long as you don't post off someone it should be a perfectly valid play.
It is not illegal for a lineman to pick up and advance a fumbled ball, which is what happened in the second clip. The ball touched the ground, it was not handed directly to the lineman, which was pointed out in the commentary.
1:38 correct me if I’m wrong, but I always thought that when two receivers were lined up at the line of scrimmage on the same side of the ball, the interior receiver is eligible while the exterior is ineligible. Does anyone else know if this is correct?
I knew the moment Bill did that sneaky time clock strategy, it was gomna bite us in the ass getting someone else to try it against us aka the titans which we lost to sadly
That is why I always scratch my head when a trick play is used in a blowout. You show your hand on a game that the outcome is decided. In that specific situation you can argue that by running out the clock it was good sportsmanship, by not running up the score.
@@peytonwaskey2774 still don't understand why the game clock was still moving. penalties for too much time and offensive movement were supposed to stop the clock.
Means it's a rule that exists as a direct consequence of another rule. There is no reason to explain it. It exists only because another rule causes it it. Even though it is not started directly as a rule.
55 sec the fumblerooski is still legal the fumble has to be backwards though. Can't fumble it forward. 3:55 is still legal as well. The titans did it in the 2019 playoffs against the patriots
What's the rule now for the end around to a guard? I've never seen it done before and now it seems like it's still a perfectly legal play outside of 2 minutes.
The announcer had it wrong under the rules even then. You can hand the ball BACKWARD even to an interior lineman in all codes. You can hand the ball FORWARD only under some conditions that differ from code to code. What NCAA did was ban plays involving an "intentional loose ball in the vicinity of the snapper" after plays like the one shown caught on.
The Wikipedia page explains why it's not allowed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumblerooski Basically, the qb can hand the ball off or place it on the ground behind him, but he can't just fumble it the way the Nebraska qb did.
@@savagebricksports1 Not in NCAA rules, where that would still be a "planned loose ball in the vicinity of the snapper". I don't know how far away he'd have to leave the ball for it to no longer be considered in the snapper's vicinity. but he couldn't just leave it at his feet where he got it.
I saw that holding on the Ravens game at the time. That was funny as hell. This was divisional and these guys knew each other. Certainly the Cinci players would have known what's up right away. Kinda illustrates how effective a hold is.
the best coaching sometimes is simply knowing the rule book. MANY moons ago i worked as an asst coach for a guy who each summer would test / quiz us on the rule book to make sure we knew it inside and out and would have us try to develop situations and or scenarios where we could use it to our advantage and or find loopholes in rules.
It looks like they had practiced that situation the way Stabler and the second guy both threw the ball forward. I guess they had nothing to lose at that point. Why not try it?
Good collection but it might have been better to add captions on what specifically was banned afterwards - at least for the first example of any given play. EG, you can still run out the clock from punt formation to end the game - what is the now illegal part?
David Richards a combo of coaching fails and increased competition and big moment chokes. And constant flags and IMO bad play calling. We need to pass more we keep rinning
I don't think that last one was running the clock off. Belichick wanted better punting position, so he wanted to back the punter up with a penalty. The jets knew this, so they chose to decline the penalty and keep the punter from going back.
I love how teams and coaches find something that's not in the rule book and is perfectly legal to do, and then all of a sudden after they do it, the rules change. Just like a child making up rules to a game as it's being played.
The child does it mid game while the league doesn’t make changes until after season. A child wouldn’t say “ok next time we play the game we play it with insert new rule” they would just change it mid game.
That first play is pretty cheap, but ultimately I can see why it was banned, not because it was cheap, but because intentionally making penalties to win a game can lead to some serious penalties being committed
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 It is banned nowadays. It's a 15 yeard penalty and the clock is set back to the original time. So you gain nothing, but lose 15 yards.
Taking off the clock 50 seconds wiithout running a play when you are barely up at the end of the game and playing a strong opponent - brilliant. Taking 50 secinds off the clock without running a play when you're up 33 to 0 with 10 minutes remaining of the game and playing the Jets - that's just unneceessary, cheap and a douche "trick"...
He wasn't doing it do kill time: he was doing it to move the team back so he could have more yards for the punter. That's why they had consecutive penalties and why they were declined: because Vrabel wanted to decrease the chances of a touchback on that ensuing punt.
It seems like Bill never had the intention of killing clock with it to get an advantage. He probably wanted to show to the NFL how this rule can be abused and needs change. In the end, he ended up getting beaten by Vrabel with exactly this trick he showed to make it go away.
It's just excellent gamesmanship going on. There are plenty of myriad examples of game plays in all types of games where a maneuver can be used just once legally before a rule change makes it illegal. Read the book Ender's Game, in which this is an underlying theme. Ender well knows that most of his battle tricks in the school are only usable once, so he has to keep coming up with new ones, some of which implement battle rule changes.
For those who don't know, a lot of the things the Pats do that end up getting changed are rules loop holes that ol' Bill specifically has submitted to the rules committee as an issue and then does them after they don't change the rule in the off-season.
Exactly
And I love him for it. Nick Saban does the same thing, at least with recruiting.
Riiiiiight. he does it for completely altruistic reasons.
@@ckmoore101 Nobody said that. He does it to win. He just doesn't feel like it's in the spirit of the game, but if the rules allow it and nobody wants to change the rules, then why not show them the problem in a game and give his team an advantage?
So basically he runs the Patriots like an F1 outfit. Nice!
Bill Belicheck slightly grinning is the equivalent of a normal man laughing hysterically
Or Kwahi laughing
Dude is super charismatic but he puts on his ol grumpy mask for everything on the field and for the press
@@ryanquinn1257 almost thought because they caught him smiling. The NFL made it illegal for him. I have nothing but respect for him
That why I loved when Vrabel trolled him the same way a year later
He is the Joe Torre of the NFL that way.
Love how the vid is basically just the Pats and Ravens playing chess against the league.
And them doing the same thing against eachother
Two excellent coaching staffs.
Yup!
How do you deflate chess pieces?
You spelt cheese wrong
Bill Belichick smiling will forever be my favorite 😂 he doesn’t even smile winning super bowls
Bill calling BS on the Titans for doing the exact same thing will forever by my favorite.
Yeah he does. Did you not see how excited he got after their last sb win, he was giddy like a little kid, it even caught me off guard
The biggest smile I remember seeing on Belichick's face was when Doug Flutie made the drop kick for an extra point
Winning isn't enough for him, its dicking with the rules and the other teams that truly gets him off lol
He wasn't smiling when Vrabel and the Titans do the exact same thing to him.
One that I believe is now banned in the NCAA is the "lie down and blend into the end zone paint and then jump up and take a lateral on a kickoff" play. It's not a penalty, but if a player is lying down before the play the officials are instructed to blow the whistle and treat it as an injury--play stops, player has to leave for the play.
I'm sure crouching is probably okay. Anything besides your feet and maybe hands on the ground, though, no. We know the pretend-to-be-on-the-sideline play is illegal, the Browns tried that with Johnny Manziel running a route and had a TD called back (I'm sure the rule is the same in college).
That play is considered an unfair act, and counts as unsportsmanlike conduct against the offending player.
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Pretending to be a cheerleader would be a foul because the player would have to be out of bounds.
@@pronkb000 the Johnny Manziel play was legal however there was an illegal shift on the play which is why it was called back
They put in a bunch of rules bc of the Miami Hurricanes of the 80s
1:01 I thought the guy had put on a ref's jersey and run it for the td 😂
Lol it actually does
I swear man this Ravens special teams (Koch-Tucker era) is legendary.
Can't count out Morgan Cox. Dude never botches a snap.
Not quite mcafee and vinatieri but definitely getting close!
Jordan B nah it's alr there
@@jordanb5254 tucker definitely better than vinni hes been prime vinni his entire career
Jordan B better than them tho. Sam Koch actually better technical punter he can put it ANYWHERE he wants it and has crazy ball control, there a little video on it NFL did. And Tucker is the best kicker in NFL history statistically, and he’s clutch ASF
I laughed my ass off the day that Ravens n Bengals game happend. They were being straight up disrespectful with the holds.
They did that in Super Bowl XLVII against SF as well. The holding wasn't nearly as blatant, although still visibly holding.
Replayed it like 4 times to see 16 at the bottom get handled that shit was too funny🤣
@@toadofsteel it wasn’t holding in the super bowl well I guess if you want to get technical you could make a case but there’s holding on every play at anytime just look close
@@cwowcwon998 Oh there was holding, just went uncalled for whatever reason. (Personally I blame the long-ass delay when the lights failed in the superdome)
A match can't end in a defensive penalty (Rogers must thank that in Detroit in that hail Mary) but it was 4th down, so technically it was a offensive play. It was genuinely a genius call haha
Thinking about the play at 2:04, the Ravens needed the kickoff to not take any time off the clock, so that they could use the two-minute warning to stop the clock on defense. So they essentially forced the returner to do a fair catch. Very smart play by the Ravens special teams
The rule that got changed was that the kicking team has to be 1 yard behind the kicker when the ball is kicked. The drop kick is still legal.
i also think they hoped he would drop it for them to recover it
There are a couple layers to this. One not mentioned is that for a drop kick to be legal, you have to kick the ball virtually simultaneously to it hitting the ground. You can’t bounce it that high and then kick it.
Also, they did that because they were hoping to kick the ball high enough to give the coverage team time to get under it and possibly catch it. If the Ravens were concerned about the two minute warning, there are simpler ways to make sure time doesn’t come off the clock. Their kicker could put the ball through the end zone in his sleep. That’s be option 1a
They did it to try and catch the returning squad off guard. They hoped they wouldn't call fair catch so they could cause chaos and get the return
Check me on this, but I think a drop kick is also a live ball. The kicking team could catch the kick and keep possession, like an inside
The best part about Belichick's clock running shithousery is that the Titans turned around and did it to the Pats in the playoffs and Bill almost had an aneurysm he was so heated
exactly why I LOATHE the patriots. he thinks he can cheat his way to championships but lord forbid a different team takes a page out of his book.
@@debjoy12
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@@debjoy12Not to defend belicheat, but this would be one of the time’s he’d been in the right. He did this in a game that was already decided and pretty much only did it so say “hey NFL, there’s a pretty bad exploit in the rules, someone needs to update it or this will happen in a game that actually matters”, which ended up happening.
He wasn’t cheating to win in this case, but more-so to show how someone could cheat and why it should be fixed.
@@debjoy12 I love when smarter than the other guy is "cheating" 🤣🤣 The best is when you take away the "Cheating" and the pats do even better😂😂 colts deflatgate 1st half vs 2nd half, Hit brady with a 4 game suspension and they win the SuperBowl. I think they were just better...huh?
Vrabel has how many rings as Head coach??🤔
Vrabel has how many rings with Brady & Bill B.?😉
i wish you showed when the titans did the last one back to new england in the playoffs
Belicheat had an issue with that, guess his mind is going....I'll take that. Go Steelers!
Bill wasn't smiling when it was done to him lol
@@patwiggins6969 Belichick did the delay of game/false start one intentionally, to show the league, hey this is a stupid rule. Change it. Hence why he did it when the score was 33-0.
Alex H I heard they did change that rule this off season
The situations were very different. Bellechick did it in a game that no longer mattered, to show the NFL there is a huge flaw in their rule book. He wanted the rule to get changed in a game that was 33-0.
Vrabel did it when the game still mattered. Of course bill wasn't happy. One was done for a "hey you dumbasses look at this dumb rule". The other was done to intentionally run the clock down to win a game.
One was done with good intentions, the other was done maliciously. Although i will agree. It is nice to Bellechick get Bellechicked.
In case you didn't know, that's what Bill Belichick looks like when he's laughing hysterically.
The blocked field goal funnies should still be legal. Defenses need to have creative ways to fight back against this watering down football
1:57 I like how Tucker basically messed up the first time and people went offsides but was like "hol up let me redo that" 😂😂😂
3:45 Here it could be that time when Mike Vrabel's Titans did it to Belichick. Seeing Bill angry about something HE was the first to exploit is more entertaining.
It wasn't him "exploiting" it, he did it in a game that was entirely over gaining no competitive advantage except ending a 5 possession pointless game a little sooner. He did it in order to get the league to actually see the issue and fix the loophole that he wanted fixed as he stated after the game that it needed to be fixed asap. If he actually wanted to exploit it he would have saved it and done it in a game and situation that actually mattered AT ALL instead of late in a blowout.
They didn't fix the rule and then it was used in a close playoff game to gain a competitive advantage so yes he was naturally annoyed that they wouldn't fix it before the playoffs when he literally displayed for them how it could be potentially abused and tried to get it changed.
Linollieum mmmm interesting, if that’s the case I can understand why Bill would be upset.
@@linollieum3742 Alright. That's understandable. But still entertaining.
Linollieum Bull...shit he simply doesn’t like when somebody uses the tricks he himself used in the past to gain an advantage against him.
manuel1654088 you seem like one of those people that stay willfully ignorant once your mind is made up
That collective holding play is one of the funniest things I have seen in the NFL :D
0:19 “there will probably be a holding call”
NO SHIT REALLY???
The blocked field goal funnies should still be legal. Defenses need to have creative ways to fight back against this watering down football
Yeah field goals aren’t entertaining anymore. It’s just a matter of if the kicker misses or not. Rarely do the defenders ever successfully block the kick with their hands.
@@Gpeagasus246 They were never very entertaining. And even the misses/good ones can be more entertaining under the right circumstances.
That wasn't entertaining to watch at all, it's a cheese.
High potential for injury, I'd think. But heck, just the other day we saw a blocked extra point turn into a 2-point conversion.
Long snapper cannot move fast enough to snap tha far and block so it's not fair that you can jump him if he can't block properly
You already know it was a good trick play when even the camera gets folled
Big Ben's pump fake was not even an arm motion, he straight up did the full throwing motion at speed without letting the ball go? Was kinda crazy you almost need eagle claws to keep the ball from not leaving your hand just from its momentum alone. Camera went straight to the endzone and was like hey what happened here lol. Not even a fan of cross state team but that was pretty beast mode
Pat McAfee and the Colts would have been on here if Polamalu didn’t line up in the C gap
It was a one hundred percenter.
FYI: In case anyone cares. It's not a big deal but at 1:52, that's not illegal. There's an unbalanced line and the QB throws to the outer-most man on that side of the line of scrimmage ("uncovered lineman") which is the TE with an eligible number, so he doesn't have to report to the officials pre-play. Even today, not an illegal play in the NFL, college or high school. It was never banned.
The illegal part of that play now is that Gronk was an eligible receiver and he's inside of Vereen, who is an ineligible receiver. You can't have an ineligible receiver "cover up" an eligible receiver like that anymore. If you wanted to run that play today, the player in Gronk's position would have to be in the backfield.
That first one was brilliant. Tell your defense hold do whatever to stop the rush and by time to end the game with the punter waiting as long as possible for the safety. The holding not allowing any additional plays is a brutal rule
Yep. Which is precisely why these days the Ravens would be required to do a free kick after surrendering the safety. But with since there'd be zero seconds on the clock anyway, the Bengals would have no choice but to try to win on fluky laterals.
It was brilliant but I'm genuinely shocked the 1st guy that eventually got to the punter didn't just knock the shit out of him in payback.
@@posysdogovych2065 Or try a fair catch kick.
@@reamick But I doubt they'd kick off in the air and give them the opportunity to fair catch. Good point though as that possibility does exist.
That ref who threw the flag should be playing baseball. That was quite a throw.
I would love to see an update for this with what happened a week or so later to the Pats. Belichick wasn't smiling so much when the shoe was on the other foot.
good memory!
No he was talking to the refs about it. Super pissed.
2:40 The change actually made was that the ball cannot be advanced by a fumble _in the last two minutes of each half_ , not the whole game.
Unless the fumbling player is the one who recovers.
@@Kylora2112 Yes, but if he recovers the fumble, he still cannot advance the ball. (At least I think so)
@@joeylawn36111 The fumbling player can advance the ball regardless of time remaining or down. Inside of the two minute warning, if another offensive player recovers the fumble, the play is blown dead at the spot of the fumble (or spot of the recovery, whichever is further back).
That's true, but it's also illegal in another way, in that you can't fumble forward intentionally like Stabler did.
@@Kylora2112 oh, ok, thanks. man, these rules get compilcated!
In regards to the infamous Kenny Stabler fumble that Dave Casper fell on in the end zone, I think the refs blew the call even with the rules as they were back then. They should have ruled it an incomplete forward pass and penalized Stabler for intentional grounding.
I'm a Raiders fan, I was watching that on t.v. and thought "was that legal? " Still makes me laugh. 😁
Yes, it should have been ruled an incomplete forward pass. Stabler threw the ball forward and it hit the ground uncaught. That's ALWAYS an incomplete pass.
Exactly. I don't get why there's always been this debate about intentional fumble or offense advancing a fumble or whatever. Just because he tossed it underhanded doesn't change the fact that it was a forward pass that fell incomplete.
@@jeffallen55 A distinction always needs to be made as to whether he released the ball INTENTIONALLY (which is a pass) or whether he lost control UNINTENTIONALLY (which is a fumble). If a player unintentionally loses control of the ball -- even if it goes forward -- then it's NOT an incomplete pass but rather a fumble and a live ball.
Stabler's scoop and forward toss of the ball was definitely intentional, thus I would agree with the ruling of an incomplete forward pass. I would not agree with intentional grounding though, because he was hit as he threw the ball - a common exception to the rule. HOWEVER: Look at where Stabler was when he threw the ball. It appears his feet were at the Charger 13-yard-line, while the line of scrimmage was the Charger 15. Therefore, his pass was from beyond the LOS, making it an illegal forward pass. Either way, if replay review were allowed back then, the call on the field would have been overturned. I can't blame the officials though. They had one look, at full speed. Given that, I probably would have ruled the same way they did.
The Titans win against the Patriots last year was glorious in so many ways
Using the Patriots play against them. Classic
Belicheck got out-Belicheck'd in that game lol
Stealing plays
No it wasn't stfu
3:45 is this the same play Mike Vrabel did to Belichick in the playoffs?
Damon M yes, which is why it’s banned lol
@@redneckgamer1888 that's exactly why Belichick used it in an earlier game in the season, with no competitive gain by doing so it was to show the NFL the loophole and how it could be abused. Then vrabel used it in a playoff game.
Yes
In a 14-13 Playoff Game to be exact
@@dannywilliams3764 so youre saying Bill was trying to be the good guy? you dont know what was going on his head. All we know is that he took advantage of a loophole to be a dickhead for no reason.
4:16 Didn’t know Bill knew how to smile
watch the video of him letting Doug Flutie do a drop kick field goal. He tries to hold it back but actually laughs
4:21 Bill laughing under the smile has got me in STITCHES 🤣
The "Fumblerooski" and the "Holy Roller" plays are classic and the best.
Loved the Fumblerooski, but I don't know if it should have been included here since it was a college play.
@@timkumpost6036 The Fumblerooski, at least the version Nebraska used in the college game, is banned in the NFL and in college.
Aretn you still allowed to do, the first play that showed up on this list
The game can no longer end an offensive penalty.
No because the refs are allowed to add time for an "unfair act"
Simon Tester and Zach the Sports Guy - Did not know this! Thanks
@@simon1990101 A game can still end on an offensive penalty if it happens organically instead of on purpose. If a team purposely commits a foul that's when the unfair act rule comes into play
@@Z64sports That's not entirely accurate. The first play in this clip would not classify as an "unfair act." The NFL's rule on deliberate fouls is open-ended but covers only "successive or repeated fouls to prevent a score."
"On November 27, 2016, the Baltimore Ravens took a safety, conceding 2 points of their 7-point lead. They committed numerous holding fouls to ensure that they could exhaust the final 11 seconds of the game. This was not a palpably unfair act because it did not recur (and was not done "to prevent a score" but in fact while conceding points)."
I like how Mike Vrabel turned the trick back on Belichick during a playoff game. Remember, he used to play for the guy, now he's the head coach of the Titans.
I also love how you included the Holy Roller.
Most underrated channel. Ur awesome dude
I wouldn't call it the most underrated, have you ever seen the work of legend Joseph Vincent?
Thanks man!
That belichick delay of game strat. 😂 Poetic how it was used against them to end the Pats' season
That last play the Titans did the exact same thing against the Patriots and Belichick was screaming at the refs for letting them do it.
Man, I've never seen Belichick break down in tears of laughter like that. At least I guess that was he was doing on the inside.
In the CFL, if the offence is called for a time count violation (equivalent to delay of game), the clock stops and does not restart until the snap.
I *think* (not sure) it's the same in the NFL, but the Jets declined the penalty so the clock continued to run. If it had been accepted, I believe the clock would have stopped, but I'm not sure of that.
@@encycl07pedia- Correct. Had the Jets taken the penalty the clock would have stopped and the Pats would have moved back 5 yards. Since the Jets kept declining the clock kept ticking down and the spot never moved.
I love that they didn't bother calling out any one person for the holds, just 'multiple'
To be fair, they would’ve had to spend 5 minutes listing all 10 other players besides the punter for that one.
Ah yes, the fabled NFL rivalry: Nebraska Cornhuskers vs Miami Hurricanes.
All the guys on Ravens -6.5 just punched their tv so hard.
I'm a Ravens fan in Vegas, and I'll tell you this, you never take them to cover, you either take them to win or you leave them alone.
@@TimCarter haven’t they covers 4/6 weeks so far?
@@pack1pick161 3/6 with a push and 2 losses.
Ah yes that barbershop sound effect at 1:13 lmao
On the first play, I love how long it takes before a ref throws a flag for holding.
The NFL needs to allow more trick plays!! It'll allow play callers more creativity and keep the game more interesting. They continue to make rule changes to enhance the game so why not allow coaches add a few surprises in their game plan!!
If they’re going to allow some of these high flying offenses, then allow some of these plays. Fast pace offenses exploit rules, just like gimmick plays. Some offenses- like what Gus Malzahn runs (college of course) are really a gimmick as an entire package.
There is plenty of interesting offense in the nfl as it is.
It's funny how when another team used the Pats running down the clock against them, Belichick was livid.
Belichick had the same thing done to him a week or two later and was flipping out. Yelling and screaming at the refs. Didn't smile so much when the shoe was on the other foot
I wanna say Belichick actually wanted a rule change regarding that previously, but it didn't get passed, so he demonstrated the potential for abuse against the Jets to make a point. Unfortunately, seems the Titans were taking notes....
So I assume that by rule, there IS an extension on the play now? Or is the change that the clock stops once all that holding starts happening?
When I played in HS, our kickoff return team used the Flying Wedge. It was highly successful but for us, but it did cost a lot of concussions of both our players and the other teams.
I really love see how people make creative tactic and get it banned. That's the very way that many sports have been evolved; like various codes of football evolved from medieval football.
2:57 that wasn’t even a fumble he threw it
Ol’ B.B could hardly contain himself 😂
The holy roller 🤣🤣🤣watched it live.
I might have seen it live (on tv). But I am not positive.
2:27 cam chancellor did that, they called it, then he did it successfully on the re kick
Fumblerooskie. The greatest trick play ever.
Bring it back!!
I mean...I love that you put the fumblerooski in here and showing love to the genius that was Tom Osbourne's Huskers...but they're NCAA in a video labelled as NFL. Still, thanks for the love.
What exactly has been banned in regards to jumping over the center to block a kick? As long as you don't post off someone it should be a perfectly valid play.
That's what I was thinking
You can’t have assistance from your own team and you can’t touch one of the other teams players.
But chancellor and Bobby Wagner have done this multiple times and all times touched the LS with their cleat, so it should've been a penalty
@@midwestaarron they did that before a rule change made it illigal.
Cant jump over center anymore
Your videos are awesome bro
2:15 The flying wedge has been outlawed since the 1920s.
The nfl banned it in 2009, the ncaa the next year.
These were variations.
It is not illegal for a lineman to pick up and advance a fumbled ball, which is what happened in the second clip. The ball touched the ground, it was not handed directly to the lineman, which was pointed out in the commentary.
In addition, it was a college game, not an NFL game, so the NFL banned…nothing here.
Please do great plays ruined by flags
This is kinda similar to that:
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man you're sadistic.
Bill Belichick's dead-ball 'loophole' 3:45
Is it possible ro loss 95 yards with "delay of game" and "false start" for around 8mins?
It would however nowadays after a delay of game the clock stops
Love when the titans ran this on the pats and Bill cried like a little girl
1:38 correct me if I’m wrong, but I always thought that when two receivers were lined up at the line of scrimmage on the same side of the ball, the interior receiver is eligible while the exterior is ineligible. Does anyone else know if this is correct?
I knew the moment Bill did that sneaky time clock strategy, it was gomna bite us in the ass getting someone else to try it against us aka the titans which we lost to sadly
That is why I always scratch my head when a trick play is used in a blowout. You show your hand on a game that the outcome is decided. In that specific situation you can argue that by running out the clock it was good sportsmanship, by not running up the score.
@@peytonwaskey2774 still don't understand why the game clock was still moving. penalties for too much time and offensive movement were supposed to stop the clock.
@@albertcassavant5951 the jets declined the peanalties
So the drop kick as kickoff is now banned?
“By rule” which basically mean they don’t need to explain it.
Means it's a rule that exists as a direct consequence of another rule. There is no reason to explain it. It exists only because another rule causes it it. Even though it is not started directly as a rule.
55 sec the fumblerooski is still legal the fumble has to be backwards though. Can't fumble it forward. 3:55 is still legal as well. The titans did it in the 2019 playoffs against the patriots
But it was in a College game. The Orange Bowl.
@@sirstephen9825 and?
@@johndrews206 The title of the video says NFL which does not make rules for the NCAA.
@@sirstephen9825 what does the ncaa have to do with anything? The title says NFL.
What's the rule now for the end around to a guard? I've never seen it done before and now it seems like it's still a perfectly legal play outside of 2 minutes.
The announcer had it wrong under the rules even then. You can hand the ball BACKWARD even to an interior lineman in all codes. You can hand the ball FORWARD only under some conditions that differ from code to code. What NCAA did was ban plays involving an "intentional loose ball in the vicinity of the snapper" after plays like the one shown caught on.
I believe it falls under the rule of intentionally fumbling the ball. Not necessarily anything to do with the gaurd.
The Wikipedia page explains why it's not allowed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumblerooski
Basically, the qb can hand the ball off or place it on the ground behind him, but he can't just fumble it the way the Nebraska qb did.
@@savagebricksports1 Not in NCAA rules, where that would still be a "planned loose ball in the vicinity of the snapper". I don't know how far away he'd have to leave the ball for it to no longer be considered in the snapper's vicinity. but he couldn't just leave it at his feet where he got it.
harbaugh and bellicheck are football masterminds and their brains are legendary. no one can disagree.
The best part of the Pat's time burning one is the Titans using it against them to beat them in the playoffs. Bill was HEATED.
I saw that holding on the Ravens game at the time. That was funny as hell. This was divisional and these guys knew each other. Certainly the Cinci players would have known what's up right away. Kinda illustrates how effective a hold is.
I love how the Patriots burned the clock against the Jets but then get pissed when the same tactic is used against them
the best coaching sometimes is simply knowing the rule book. MANY moons ago i worked as an asst coach for a guy who each summer would test / quiz us on the rule book to make sure we knew it inside and out and would have us try to develop situations and or scenarios where we could use it to our advantage and or find loopholes in rules.
Stabler threw an incomplete forward pass that was tossed forward then recovered by Casper in the end zone.
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yep
It looks like they had practiced that situation the way Stabler and the second guy both threw the ball forward. I guess they had nothing to lose at that point. Why not try it?
Good collection but it might have been better to add captions on what specifically was banned afterwards - at least for the first example of any given play. EG, you can still run out the clock from punt formation to end the game - what is the now illegal part?
Now a safety will call for an untimed down I assume.
When you are 30-0 up and burning time that is basically a merci play.
Let’s go huskers!
Those were the glory days
Buckeyes fan here... What happened to the Huskers? I was excited to see them join
the Big Ten but, as soon as they did, things went south.
David Richards a combo of coaching fails and increased competition and big moment chokes. And constant flags and IMO bad play calling. We need to pass more we keep rinning
I remember that last Patriots one. If I remember correctly, the same exact thing was done to them later, and they threw a fit.
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I don't think that last one was running the clock off. Belichick wanted better punting position, so he wanted to back the punter up with a penalty. The jets knew this, so they chose to decline the penalty and keep the punter from going back.
Thanks for running Pats stuff. I’ve been a Pats fan longer than ding dung has been alive and he won’t show the Pats playing smartly. Again thanks.
This video needs a bit more explanation for the noobs (like me) watching.
Bill cannot be thinking, "Oh no, I hope the Jets don't get 34 unanswered points, lets bleed the clock when we are up by 33."
I love how teams and coaches find something that's not in the rule book and is perfectly legal to do, and then all of a sudden after they do it, the rules change. Just like a child making up rules to a game as it's being played.
All rules are the result of an unfair act being found out
Football is a entertainment industry; all actions to the detriment of the entertainment will be banned.
The child does it mid game while the league doesn’t make changes until after season. A child wouldn’t say “ok next time we play the game we play it with insert new rule” they would just change it mid game.
@@dylanf3108 I know What you mean, It Just Seems like that's the Way all Sports leagues Do things...
2:22 thats Kam Chancellor for you. 3:29 and again Bobby Wagner. :)
That first play is pretty cheap, but ultimately I can see why it was banned, not because it was cheap, but because intentionally making penalties to win a game can lead to some serious penalties being committed
The issue here is, that first play results in a automatic score due to the safety, so it's hard to make it be considered *prevention of scoring*
@@insertcolorherehawk3761 It is banned nowadays. It's a 15 yeard penalty and the clock is set back to the original time. So you gain nothing, but lose 15 yards.
@@RoyalMela Wait, a 15 yard penalty and you don't give away 2 points?
3:50 belicheat must've hated when tennessee pulled this shite on them
Love seeing the pats vs jets and Belichick smiling, then losing his shit when the titans do it to him
great track at the end. Also: bring back the fumblerooski!!
if your reading this have a. Good day
Johnny Manziel's catch against the Ravens in 2014, and there was a play in the Colts-Patriots 2004 Divisional game.
Taking off the clock 50 seconds wiithout running a play when you are barely up at the end of the game and playing a strong opponent - brilliant. Taking 50 secinds off the clock without running a play when you're up 33 to 0 with 10 minutes remaining of the game and playing the Jets - that's just unneceessary, cheap and a douche "trick"...
The word you're looking is "hilarious"
@@gavinburtt In the negative sense, yes ;)
He wasn't doing it do kill time: he was doing it to move the team back so he could have more yards for the punter. That's why they had consecutive penalties and why they were declined: because Vrabel wanted to decrease the chances of a touchback on that ensuing punt.
THAT is why Belichick was smiling.
It seems like Bill never had the intention of killing clock with it to get an advantage. He probably wanted to show to the NFL how this rule can be abused and needs change. In the end, he ended up getting beaten by Vrabel with exactly this trick he showed to make it go away.
When the player used to leap over the line on a field goal, all they had to do was grab his feet & watch him do a face plant.
Bill Belichick smiling, but he wasn't smiling when the Tennessee Titans used his trick against him back in January. LOL
I am a simple steelers fan, but at 4:14 got me burst in tears when i saw it the first time. Bill aka the emperor at its best. 😂
I miss players jumping over the line to block field goals. Shit was so cool when I was young. Kids today just wont understand.
Vrabel and the Titans pulled the same thing on Belichick in the 2020 playoffs. He wasn't laughing then... It was beautiful.
And then Mike Vrabel did the same thing to end the Patriots dynasty, and Belichick was FURIOUS.
4:14 Belichick is such a real-life Bond villain.
It's just excellent gamesmanship going on. There are plenty of myriad examples of game plays in all types of games where a maneuver can be used just once legally before a rule change makes it illegal. Read the book Ender's Game, in which this is an underlying theme. Ender well knows that most of his battle tricks in the school are only usable once, so he has to keep coming up with new ones, some of which implement battle rule changes.
I wish you would’ve shown when the titans did the delay of game back to the patriots
0:51 The NFL banned a play that happened in college football...didn't know they could do that. :)