11:35 my regular 950 with windows on arm 21h1 on the sd card runs doom fine, there seems to be something wrong there. also, minecraft education installs but doesn't run
You'd be better off running Windows 11 on any SD845 or SD855 devices. Snapdragon 810 really on the verge of not being compatible with newer Win11 builds and any build post 22H2 just refuses to run
Nice Video, thank you :) I found a list of arm games for windows - maybe you want to revisit the topic and try one of the mentioned ones? Minecraft seems to have a arm version, the list claims.
Why though? As you can see in my PocoPhone video a more modern phone can work very well in Windows. Even play semi modern AAA games. The upgradability of a PC is lost but that is to be expecged due to the formfactor
The reason that so many of the installers didn’t function on that version of Windows is likely due to the fact the setup environment is in 16-bit even when the actual game is 32-bit. I suggest installing on another machine and maybe copying over the contents with a NoCD patch applied so you don’t have to deal with finicky DRM?
Could be the reason, or it was just because of removed features to create Tiny11. In my newest video I used full Windows 11 and could play all games I tried. From gta IV to crysis. I even ran Need For Speed Underground from its original DVD :D
Since GPU is not working on WOA on Lumia 950XL ,the Lumia 1520 (which has only Snapdragon 800) with Windows RT or AArch32 Win10 ich much better option, since GPU is working without any problem. Native GTA SA, Quake III Arena, half life 1 (Xash3D engine), CS1.6 support, all appx games..
@@TechKingdom35it does. It runs all Win32 ported to ARM architecture. In my channel you can see the video about Surface 2 with Windows RT running some win32 apps ported to ARM, or even there is x86 emulator for light x86 Win32 apps. When u search google windows rt win32 ported apps, there are hundreds of them on xda
for your directx installation problem, this is really to bad this phone have a snapdragon 810 and not a 820. Snapdragon 820 is vulkan compatible, you could be able to fix all your directx related problem thanks to dxvk, 810 isn't vulkan compatible :/
Linux for arm with box86/box64 or wine with x86(32/64) emulation is more smooth as windows on arm gaming and it also would have drivers and as long as the gpu can do vulkan will it have DirectX
@@TechKingdom35 we shall see how far i get, even if it doesnt it has some super interesting features like pogo pin connection on the back (similar to the moto z) doc connection and full desktop mode in w10 mobile very similar to the lumia, has an extra gb ram too which even if i cant get w11 arm running should still be useful for whatever linux distro i decide to throw on it
can this phone display out to an hdmi monitor via usb hub? like how samsung dex works? with dex you can use a usb-c hub with an hdmi port and you can have an external monitor as your primary monitor... i feel like it might just work, have you tried? the phone itself supported external monitors, it was called continuum, so it MIGHT just work natively on arm, would probably depend on the video driver for the video chip in the phone
Damn. This is window phone all over again 6:02 you can put those files manually to the native folders every single time you tried to play the game (if you time it correctly then it might work, I learnt that from how to play Minecraft on windows 98)
Maybe some games would run if you can manage to start them and than chose open gl as a renderer for the ones that suport it Or configure the game to start on open gl But then I don't know if it does have the driver for open gl as well
@@TechKingdom35 That is true. More reliable as well. But it’ll be still cool to hold an actual Windows OS inside a small smartphone; especially if it can handle basic Windows applications like Words or some others.
I actually tried Minecraft Bedrock, Portal 1 and they both run! sadly Minecraft Java didn’t work for me though. I should try some more games. By the way I tested on Poco x3 Pro which is more powerful.
Cool. Yeah the drivers for the Poco X3 Pro seem to be better than for the Lumia 950XL. Some of the problems where probably also because I used Tiny11 and not clean Windows11.
@@giakhanhvn2mc Yeah Drivers don’t have OpenGL, but I was able to get minecraft Java running using opengl Mesa dll, even though it’s laggy it still runs
Wait Minecraft java didn't work well? What versions have you tried, have you tried version 1.8.9 because that version seems to be most stable compared to the other versions.
I did not test that. But to be honest I don't think it would be that great of an experience. Maybe tra installing android and install the moonlight app there.
As far as I know it uses the adreno. But in tiny 11 many features are removed. The CPU is emulated though. In my Pocophone Video you can see that Windows can ustilise the Snapdragon SOC
@@TechKingdom35 i saw a video of someone else installing windows 11 on oneplus 6t i think with snapdragon 855 it had the problem i earlier said. Windows didnt utilize the adreno gpu but used cpu as a gpu.
I have no idea about prices in India but here in Europe I would just buy it used. I mean the phone is getting kind of old so being a new one seems like a waste of money.
I want a secondary device windows on ARM, in theory better battery life and used for simple tasks word, webbrowsing, youtube, zoom desktop and light mobile games. Zoom seems to not be the best on mobile vs windows desktop version. I was looking at samsung go laptop(snapdragon 7c) but was afraid it wont run smoothly.😅
That's the neat part, you don't :D No , there are two options. You can configure a dual boot and still have Windows Mobile installed or you can use Windows 11T Tiny11 to make calls and use mobile data. That works as well
@@TechKingdom35 simply yes buddy. The specs are to high for a windows phone running a unothorized version on windows 11 (Tiny 11 in this case) while windows 10 is a official scaled down release by Microsoft so as the specs work really well for it meaning it will run 720p on yt via web browser on windows 10 without issue.
Damn its only have 4core of cpu,and 820 (sorry i messed-up i mean 810) chipset is too old for android today,btw i write this with my xperia x peform and it have snapdragon 820 too, and it have so many lagging
windows phone gaming on that phone is better than this 😂 how windows phone handles low power and low performance cpu is amazing, i had a >$100 windows phone and ran better than any android at that price, only problem was app support
@Kingdom3533 Here some idea from geekerwan how to run tripleA games on old android phonr with windows11 installed natively.. He is playing windows tripleA games on mobile.. ua-cam.com/video/nrvnpFCcZeA/v-deo.html
@@TechKingdom35 goodluck.. Wish you more subscribers to come.. Ill wait for your content and how to install it in The future using new devices.. Im positive that android phone can handle windows 10/11 & pc application if its optimize..
Some day we will have a full Windows phone. My dream is to play steam games or old portable games from 90s and 2000s on the go.
That would be my dream as well. Hopefully we will eventually get there
Just get a Gpd win 4
@@alphaendorphin8775 not everyone has the money to buy a gpd win 4.
Steamdeck
You already can using Exagear
You really notice it isn't made with gaming in mind but it's funny that you can get some installed anyway^^
Jup, cool to see at least anything running on this 7 year old phone.
Ok ngl the first video I saw was you installing windows on this phone but forgot to subscribe but I subscribed now so I guess It's all good 😄
Your videos are truly amazing since your first video 👍
Thank yo very much, more to come :)
you expect x86 games run on ARM device well you got what was expected to happen xD
Ey, check my new Video. X86 on arm works great. You just need a more powerfull phone :)
11:35 my regular 950 with windows on arm 21h1 on the sd card runs doom fine, there seems to be something wrong there. also, minecraft education installs but doesn't run
Cool to here. What version of Doom did you use?
Retroid pocket 5 mini with Winlator or box86/64 may be the answer to this finally
Your dedication is insane! This channel is extremely underrated.
Thank you. There is still more to come.
@@TechKingdom35you make very good videos! Please keep it!
@@lelimxD Thanks, I will :)
You'd be better off running Windows 11 on any SD845 or SD855 devices. Snapdragon 810 really on the verge of not being compatible with newer Win11 builds and any build post 22H2 just refuses to run
Yup. I will try it with a better CPU once I will buy another phone :)
@@TechKingdom35 Surface Duo is supposedly a good experience to run Windows 11 on. Xiaomi Pad 5 is also pretty daily drivable experience
Your dedication and hardwork is awesome 😎🔥💥🤩💯
Nice Video, thank you :) I found a list of arm games for windows - maybe you want to revisit the topic and try one of the mentioned ones? Minecraft seems to have a arm version, the list claims.
A Windows Phone should be an intel cpu and the stuff inside a computer with a small screen.
Why though? As you can see in my PocoPhone video a more modern phone can work very well in Windows. Even play semi modern AAA games. The upgradability of a PC is lost but that is to be expecged due to the formfactor
what about among us, it need direct 10 or opengl 3.1, can it run? ?????
Not on the Lumia. On something like a Poco Phone F1 it should work
The reason that so many of the installers didn’t function on that version of Windows is likely due to the fact the setup environment is in 16-bit even when the actual game is 32-bit. I suggest installing on another machine and maybe copying over the contents with a NoCD patch applied so you don’t have to deal with finicky DRM?
Could be the reason, or it was just because of removed features to create Tiny11. In my newest video I used full Windows 11 and could play all games I tried. From gta IV to crysis. I even ran Need For Speed Underground from its original DVD :D
That is the feeling of not having a gpu driver
The worst feeling :D. So bad that I bought a Poco F1 to try the process again. And the F1 worked really well
Would you also try to install windows on like a current mid range Android device that would be interesting
I tried it on the Poco F1 in my newest video. It ran great.
how is the dolphin emulator on that
Since GPU is not working on WOA on Lumia 950XL ,the Lumia 1520 (which has only Snapdragon 800) with Windows RT or AArch32 Win10 ich much better option, since GPU is working without any problem. Native GTA SA, Quake III Arena, half life 1 (Xash3D engine), CS1.6 support, all appx games..
Wait, I thought Windows Rt had no support for Win32 apps?
@@TechKingdom35it does. It runs all Win32 ported to ARM architecture.
In my channel you can see the video about Surface 2 with Windows RT running some win32 apps ported to ARM, or even there is x86 emulator for light x86 Win32 apps.
When u search google windows rt win32 ported apps, there are hundreds of them on xda
for your directx installation problem, this is really to bad this phone have a snapdragon 810 and not a 820. Snapdragon 820 is vulkan compatible, you could be able to fix all your directx related problem thanks to dxvk, 810 isn't vulkan compatible :/
MJDness incoming :D
:D Thanks
Linux for arm with box86/box64 or wine with x86(32/64) emulation is more smooth as windows on arm gaming and it also would have drivers and as long as the gpu can do vulkan will it have DirectX
@@idcrafter-cgi True, I really want to try that at some point:)
these vids made me buy an eliet x3, this should be interesting xD
Cool, very premium looking and feeling phone. Does it also support Windows 11 on ARM?
@@TechKingdom35 we shall see how far i get, even if it doesnt it has some super interesting features like pogo pin connection on the back (similar to the moto z) doc connection and full desktop mode in w10 mobile very similar to the lumia, has an extra gb ram too which even if i cant get w11 arm running should still be useful for whatever linux distro i decide to throw on it
@@questeusher Okay, that sounds interesting. Lets see how it goes :)
can this phone display out to an hdmi monitor via usb hub? like how samsung dex works? with dex you can use a usb-c hub with an hdmi port and you can have an external monitor as your primary monitor... i feel like it might just work, have you tried? the phone itself supported external monitors, it was called continuum, so it MIGHT just work natively on arm, would probably depend on the video driver for the video chip in the phone
Yes it can connect an external display via USB-C or via Miracast.
can it can run MS office and SPSS?
Damn. This is window phone all over again
6:02 you can put those files manually to the native folders every single time you tried to play the game (if you time it correctly then it might work, I learnt that from how to play Minecraft on windows 98)
@G.A.C_Preserve Really? Okay, thanks for the comment 👍
does it also get hot if you just doing basic stuff instead of gaming?
While doing basic stuff it does get warm, warmer than it got under windows mobile, but not hot.
what is hub you use with lumia, thanks in advance
It is just a basic amazon type C hub. Nothing special. Any usb hub with power should work
great video!
Thanks :)
box86/box64 translates calls for arm processors, most help you.
I want Windows Phone back on Surface Duo !
Maybe some games would run if you can manage to start them and than chose open gl as a renderer for the ones that suport it
Or configure the game to start on open gl
But then I don't know if it does have the driver for open gl as well
How about streaming gaming like Game Pass or PlayStation Now?
Should work. But at that point why not use a cheap Android Phone?
@@TechKingdom35 That is true. More reliable as well. But it’ll be still cool to hold an actual Windows OS inside a small smartphone; especially if it can handle basic Windows applications like Words or some others.
Yes it will work but not worth it you can play it normally on original os on that phone itself
I actually tried Minecraft Bedrock, Portal 1 and they both run! sadly Minecraft Java didn’t work for me though. I should try some more games. By the way I tested on Poco x3 Pro which is more powerful.
Cool. Yeah the drivers for the Poco X3 Pro seem to be better than for the Lumia 950XL. Some of the problems where probably also because I used Tiny11 and not clean Windows11.
Java supposed to have great ARM support due to the fact that most android use JVMs, i guess its the ancient graphics library
@@giakhanhvn2mc Yeah Drivers don’t have OpenGL, but I was able to get minecraft Java running using opengl Mesa dll, even though it’s laggy it still runs
Wait Minecraft java didn't work well? What versions have you tried, have you tried version 1.8.9 because that version seems to be most stable compared to the other versions.
Does the cellular still working after system update?
🤔
I don't know I didn't have a major software update yet since it running on the newest 22H2 version
world of warcraft 3.3.5?
m8 u are in windows test mode, reboot in normal mode so u can install directx
Great video. Thank you.
Thank you :)
Can moonlight gamestream run perfectly without heating too much?
I did not test that. But to be honest I don't think it would be that great of an experience. Maybe tra installing android and install the moonlight app there.
@@TechKingdom35
Can you stream your gaming PC to the Lumia phone with moonlight?
Try to see if you can get drivers it should fix the steam ui interface
I tried. I couldn't get anything to work. I will try this with a newer phone at some time.
I think windows is emulating the cpu as a gpu and not using the adreno gpu
As far as I know it uses the adreno. But in tiny 11 many features are removed. The CPU is emulated though. In my Pocophone Video you can see that Windows can ustilise the Snapdragon SOC
@@TechKingdom35 i saw a video of someone else installing windows 11 on oneplus 6t i think with snapdragon 855 it had the problem i earlier said. Windows didnt utilize the adreno gpu but used cpu as a gpu.
In that video he said its a driver problem because arm windows are made for Qualcomm 8cx,etc
I think thats why the directx 11 didn't work because its emulating gpu through cpu
Run a game open task manager and check if the gpu is being utilized
hi i am thinking this is drivers problem
Probably
Heyy, is it possible to install windows 11 on latest smartphones?
Yes
Depends if it is supported by project renegade.
Yes in oneplus phone it is possible i don't remember which one you can search on it i think it is oneplus 6
Thinking of buying 950 xl.. should I buy original from Amazon or should I go for refurbished? I am from India... So keep that in mind 😂
I have no idea about prices in India but here in Europe I would just buy it used. I mean the phone is getting kind of old so being a new one seems like a waste of money.
Pls more videos
If it can run doom mean it is a gaming PC.😁
True. But doom ran very very slow.
But it is too slow
Android Emulator works like Magic nowadays 🧡
I just bought one I was hoping to use it for gaming that was really stupid there’s nothing to do😂
Yep. Sadly it is not really worth it for anything other than DOS era gaming.
If you have it please try to use egpu on this i know the usb c is not gen 4 but try it very good content by the way
I actually tested it with a razer core x but like you said it is not usb 4. Do no pcie lanes and no egpu support
I want a secondary device windows on ARM, in theory better battery life and used for simple tasks word, webbrowsing, youtube, zoom desktop and light mobile games. Zoom seems to not be the best on mobile vs windows desktop version. I was looking at samsung go laptop(snapdragon 7c) but was afraid it wont run smoothly.😅
Sounds like a good idea. I own a m1 MacBook air for that. The battery life is astonishing. Sadly I don't know about the windows ARM devices
There’s a new Lenovo laptop that’s pretty good, but I think it’s pretty expensive
how to reentre your phone tho😅
That's the neat part, you don't :D No , there are two options. You can configure a dual boot and still have Windows Mobile installed or you can use Windows 11T Tiny11 to make calls and use mobile data. That works as well
bro that screen can support 720p on the windows 10. steam (though i use it myself) is soooo overated bro. it can be glitchy.
I don't really understand. You mean windows 10 works better than windows 11 on the Lumia 950?
@@TechKingdom35 simply yes buddy. The specs are to high for a windows phone running a unothorized version on windows 11 (Tiny 11 in this case) while windows 10 is a official scaled down release by Microsoft so as the specs work really well for it meaning it will run 720p on yt via web browser on windows 10 without issue.
Can I install this on Android phone?
Yes on some. Google for the renegade-project
Install tiny 11 on OnePlus 6, 7,poco f1
I will. I actually just bought a Pocophone F1 today
@@TechKingdom35 that great brother
pls more videos!
how to delete this?
You mean reinstall windows mobile?
@@TechKingdom35 yes
@@madyrxe9631 The LumiaWOA Page has a section to restore windows mobile
@@madyrxe9631 woa-project.github.io/LumiaWOA/guides/revert/
bro can you try Win 8 lite it maybe work good
Windows 8 is not build for ARM cpus like the one in this phone
Normally If it isn t graphics card Don t work any game
Damn its only have 4core of cpu,and 820 (sorry i messed-up i mean 810) chipset is too old for android today,btw i write this with my xperia x peform and it have snapdragon 820 too, and it have so many lagging
Yes it is very old. But I am going to try it with a Pocophone F1. Might be interesting
It might be a lot better than 820,but you know,snapdragon 845 is like a hell, it will burn ur hand lol 😂😂😂
I'll wait your video with pocophone f1
Dont forget try to run crysis 😂
Im think doom Must launch with dosbox
Try gforce now please 🥺
Try emulators or cloud gaming
Thanks for the comment but emulators and cloud gaming works on the windows phone OS as well. And there the optimization is way better
What about running gta 5 on this device😂
1 fps😂
Crysis
@@bfkeith_. nope GTA 5 is 1gb ram but it won't run to fast when low space
Ya
This phone need more ram and storage
It is tiny 11
windows phone gaming on that phone is better than this 😂
how windows phone handles low power and low performance cpu is amazing, i had a >$100 windows phone and ran better than any android at that price, only problem was app support
True. Windows Phone was surprisingly optimized in comparison to desktop Windows. Sad that Microsoft killed the project.
use samsung s20 ultra
DOWLOAD RAM MAP
lol
Install wsa on this phone
Can u play Roblox? Plzs🙏🙏🙏
@Kingdom3533 Here some idea from geekerwan how to run tripleA games on old android phonr with windows11 installed natively.. He is playing windows tripleA games on mobile.. ua-cam.com/video/nrvnpFCcZeA/v-deo.html
Thanks. Yes I might need to try this again with a more modern phone
@@TechKingdom35 goodluck.. Wish you more subscribers to come.. Ill wait for your content and how to install it in The future using new devices.. Im positive that android phone can handle windows 10/11 & pc application if its optimize..