Installing Windows 11 on a Lumia 950
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- Since Windows 10 Mobile was discontinued, Windows Phones are slowly becoming more and more outdated by the day. But can new life be restored into these phones by forcing Windows 11 onto it? Let's find out!
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0:00 - Lumia 950 on Windows 10 Mobile
11:54 - Lumia 950 on Windows 11 Installation
18:39 - Lumia 950 on Windows 11 - Розваги
It surprises me how shockingly well this is applied to such an outdated phone. Windows 11 truly is optimized for touchscreen devices. Superb Video!
Windows 11 is Windows 10 but tablet features are on already (taskbar is the one from tablet mode)
@@bernardogameplaysemais8191There are a ton of changes that aren't obvious at first sight
Yes… because it’s trying to be chrome os I mean just look at it
You gave me spoilers about this video
@@KuromiloverX3it’s the other way around. ChromeOS came after windows
20:15
All headphones work as an antenna. It's how radio walkmans work! And ipod nano radios.
yep, an antenna is just a piece of metal after all
Everyone don’t know these? I can recall my old S3 days when i don’t have my cellular data
Oh yeah of course they require headphones
usb c AND removeable battery is such a weird thing to see together on a modern consumer phone
its going to be a reality in a few years due to EU laws
@@SweatyFeetGirli'm excited
@@SweatyFeetGirlThat law isn't enforcing removable batteries as seen in this video. It's enforcing user replaceable batteries. That just means it has to be easier to open and replace the battery in case of failure. That means you'll most likely still need a screwdriver.
This is how I imagined a Windows Phone. I hope that in the future we will get that experience with modern hardware.
Laggy, broken and damn near unusable? Gotcha
@@Knaeckebrotsaege its a 2015 phone what do you expect💀
@@KnaeckebrotsaegeYour way of thinking is the same. A modern high-end phone can run Windows comfortably, and in the future you will be able to have a true Windows Phone experience.
@@Stealth_Droid i don't want a windows "phone" experice, i want a full blown windows desktop in my pocket that act like phone, not a phone OS acts like windows
i need a full desktop office apps with me all the time and can run light android game by using the android subsystem, that would be perfect.
@@KnaeckebrotsaegeWindows Phone laggy?
Ain’t that a frokfrdk vid to make my day
And just before school too!
Goofy ahh Loona pfp
Considering how far mobile SOCs have come since Snapdragon 808 in 2015, this might have actually been viable for Microsoft, to put a lite version of the full Windows NT OS, if only they didn't abandon Windows Phones.
Especially if they used the Windows 10 base, which is a lot less bloated than Windows 11.
i think windows on arm is not bloated like x86
Pray tell, how is windows 10 less bloated than 11?
Windows is bloated, they need to start from scratch
@@iceman5117you can't create local account in win 11 without pain in ass.
Is that not what Windows 10 Mobile was? Since WP8 they've ran on top of NT and W10M had Continuum which enabled a lightweight Windows desktop when supported devices were docked.
It just goes to show that with minimal optimisation and modern mobile hardware, they could make an epic win11 mobile that would blow the competition away, I mean, I love ios and android but id definitely buy a win11 phone.
Windows 11 on the Surface Duo is really cool
I ain't, ultra bloated os for phones, Linux would feel better there. So I stay with ios/android/Linux. Even Explorer.exe isn't responding in video
@@user-sm5ey8mf8v this is also a phone from 2015.. I’m not disagreeing that Linux would be a much better option but newer phones would probably be much more capable on windows 11 than what’s being shown in the video
@@cybedra plus the keyword here being optimisation, alongside modern hardware ... I drool at the thought!
@@frokfrdk oh I bet!
Too bad they gave up on Windows Phone. I still have an old 530 in it's original box that i got 8 or 9 years ago just to toy around with it and it was actually VERY responsive compared to the Galaxy S5 i had at the time and all that running on just 512MB of RAM. Imo WP was optimized way better than the Android versions that were out at the time but the lack of app support was the death of it
You're right. Android user here from the beginning, but I would've so liked to change to WP from what I tested them. So snappy even on base models. But it just didn't have bunch of apps I would've needed, but they never got ported. Such a shame. I bet if MS would've gone and somehow attracted devs it would still be here. Android was so sluggish even on the higher end phones.
To be fair, the TouchWiz UI the Galaxy S5 shipped with was quite heavy compared to stock Android.
@@adwaitagnome i had every S from the 3 till the 22 and the 5 definetly had the worst touchwiz version out of all of them. Still,even stock Android like 4.3,4.4,5.1 ran poorly on lower end hardware anyway. I had a custom rom which was based on stock android and it still had minor issues. To me,Android started to truly get better since Android 8 and up
You can thank Google for scuttling app support. They kept screwing around with UA-cam to break any app that would point to it. They never brought their apps to WP. If they had you'd probably have seen more support in the community.
@@RobertWilke that wasn't the reason for me. It was missing banking applications, messengers etc.
It's worth noting that while Windows 11 21H2 and 22H2 work fine, starting with Insider build 25188 from August 2022 it is no longer possible to boot Windows on the 950. I believe this is due to these builds requiring Arm v8.1, whereas the 950 is 8.0
Ah damn that sucksss. Also I follow you on Twitter, nice seeing you!
@@frokfrdknothing but nostalgia. Gone are the days where you had the choice between Firefox Os, Bada Os, symbian Os, Windows mobile, iOS and Android, now we're stuck with only android and iOS 😢😢😢😢
@@danteerskine7678at least there are many different Android distros, or "custom ROMs", but availability depends on the device you have. if it wasn't too popular or isn't old, good luck finding a ROM.
@@danteerskine7678damn when you say that, that's kinda depressing
@@danteerskine7678and both of the remaining contestants suck ass
I actually have one of these in good working order and also good condition in a drawer. I have had a hard time letting it go since it’s a damn modern phone for its time. Great camera, though a bit too saturated colors, usb-C and not face unlock but an IRIS scanner! Years ago. As you mentioned 64-bit arm chip already and replaceable battery and expandable storage! And a good size display. If you can get this done I can get this done!
It was like Microsoft's last hurrah to the old idea of smartphone before joining the trend with their Surface duo line
@@pyrojinn Well yes it was, but it was way ahead of the competition in 2015. Face unlock before the iPhone. Powerful processor and generally a snappy good phone better for windows users than any android at that time, and years after. Not now, especially with Samsung phones that are heavily integrated with windows now through the phone app. But it was very good when new and the years after.
@@driver288 I saw Sony Xperia Pro with their dedicated camera button and was reminded of my old Lumia 930. That phone was great, despite its many setbacks.
same here. I love this phone. It's so... nokia. You take it in hand and feel quality. It had many accidents and crashes. Once I damaged display but but bought new for $60. Such shame it has no proper software.
Great video I thought you had a lot more subs with the production and mic quality
The mic is still just my smartphone mic haha
@@frokfrdkthat shows how technology advanced and how mics on phones can sound great nowadays
You should increase the display scaling in settings to something like 150-175%, it would feel more like a phone that way as the UI would be bigger. Also a centered taskbar would actually be better on a phone so the start menu would be centered (how it is on literally every phone...)
It was at 225% scaling and the UI is so cramped that so many icons are hidden with the centred taskbar, meaning having it on the left lets you see more
Oh... I didnt expect that lol. Can you share a photo of cramped UI elements so I can look myself?@@frokfrdk
Oh another thing, did you try enabling tablet optimized taskbar?@@frokfrdk
“Also a centered taskbar would actually be better on a phone so the start menu would be centered (how it is on literally every phone...)”
Then why is it on the left on my Ubuntu Touch phone? Or doesn't that count as “literally” every phone?
Just a quick correction, the headphones don't have an antenna in them, they *are* the antenna. An antenna is just some copper wire (sometimes cut into specific sizes/shapes) that picks up signals in the air. Can be headphone wires, electrical fences, even metal fillings if the radio waves are strong enough.
I used to love the Lumia. It was weirdly compatible with my office's system back in 2013-14. I used it a lot.
Finally someone trying this on a normal 950. I also have done this, and I have to say that after you use it for a few days it doesn't get as hot as before. I also opened it up and added thermal paste between the frame and mainboard. Didn't have a bitlocker issue, but there was a weird issue with it not wanting to flash and cryptic error codes. Also couldn't update or reset the phone. So I ended up wiping the old os and installing a fresh one. Only then I could do this. If there would be a even liter version of Win 11 arm this could maybe be actually usable. Btw, on the site they say that cameras don't work in windows. Probably cause it's advanced custom hardware. Anyway, love your vids and keep it up!
It's genuinely impressive how well it runs. Wish some company like GPD made a phone with Windows instead of Android.
So basicly a GPD Win but a phone. I 100% approve ngl
@@lydieraynI won't mind it's thicness
That's all I would ever use.
Droid Razr i ran intel atoms in 2011 so hardware isn't the issue. The problem is that Windows 11 itself is crap. Too many processes and it won't go to sleep. And I kinda need Google Maps.
Amazing video you deserve more subscribers
The wireless charging had me dying. Lumia was the biggest player at the time to start the whole qi vs PMA. I wanted window phone to win so bad during the Apple, Android, Windows era. Microsoft had so much going on, but what killed them was they had little to no app ecosystem. The money for developers was in Apple and Android.
Yooo I have exactly this!
Edit:I just got this recommended and looking at your channel I'm so glad I was!
Looks like I'm really going to enjoy your catalog of videos
The algorithm recommended me your channel and I'm already watching all of your videos while repeating the channel name because it sounds funny. Great video, had the Lumia a little bit more processing power and W11 would probably run smooth enough to use it as a daily phone for light activities.
the FM radio doesn't need specific headphones, just any 3.5mm headphones will work.
Like everyone already said, it's impressive how well Windows works on this old phone, and I also think Microsoft could give the smartphone market another try at this point.
I mean, it succeeded in getting people to use its new browser and even Bing, despite how much of a meme IE and the old Bing were. People would totally buy a Windows phone in the 2020s.
The highlight of this video was definitely you talking with the Bing AI about yourself, tho lol
Since I had a 640, i'd be there telling them "Take my Money!"
If it has apps I'm down
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Very cool and well made video!
I remember my Lumia 520
It only had 512mb ram
But better than 2gb ram Android phones that time
Multi tasking, gaming, animations everything was smoother.
App developers didn't supported windows phones as they did for ios and Android, its killed windows phones
I remember playing asphalt 8 on my 520 and in my friends Android phones. They all wanted to play in my phone because its smooth and don't have any lag
Nostalgic 😢
Used to have the 521 from MetroPCS. It was amazing and it was surprisingly loud with my beats headphones.
Used to have a Lumia 850. Really nice phone and i really miss it, it's a shame that they discontinued windows phones.
Also in Adelaide, algorithm working via location now. Good video!
Clicked the video as soon as I saw the discord notification, looks like it’s going to be good!
to be honest. while it would require huge effort from Microsoft to get ecosystem going for it, and then get users into it.
i could see something like this Lumia but with something beefy like SD 8 gen 2 or even modern midrange 700 series based version with windows 11 be a interesting thing.
Honestly a really good phone that was just a flop. Reminds me a ton of the HP touchpad. Compared to similar hardware that thing was incredible ! Got one on the fire sale and used it a lot for web browsing for a couple years. I kind of hope Microsoft gives windows phone one more go once they’ve ironed out windows on arm. And in the process find good ways to make it better for tablet form factors.
so much fun, very cool video from france :)
Bonkers! I had a 950 for over a year and other than some weird bugs and lack of apps I loved it.
Oh man, the phone getting bricked temporarily brought back memories of the time I tried to install Android on a Lumia 535 when I was 15 and bricked it completely lol. Wonder if I had the same issue!
Some features like high resolution playback and gaming may be awful to use, I heard that most of Lumia phones are missing a GPU driver.
Yep
All Lumia phones.
@@winchesterkid even worse
I like your efforts ❤
I loved this phone. Great piece of hardware. I had it still in desk and it's working.
My guess as to why bitlocker was turned on was when you updated the store it most likely turned it on. I used to have a windows phone as a daily driver and updating the store would randomly change settings as well like a small software update
Why didn't you connect to a monitor after installing win11 ?
Im glad you did this
You earned my sub 😊
Google finally understood that I regret my Lumia 950XL that I had to replace 6 month ago for a Pixel 6a, and recommended me that video.
The only reason I switched was because everything broke more and more, and it became unbearable when the outdated Edge couldn't display new interactive things like cookies pop up anymore.
Outside of that, integration of contacts (not from skype, but the contact app on W10) and Onedrive was such a strong point, as was lots of UI elements that feel still lightyears ahead of what my stock Android disappointingly gives me today. Like, I could just pause my music when I changed the volume! No need to freakin scroll the "head menu" for that! How genius it is!
And the native GPS, while outdated, is still the best I ever experienced in term of information given both on screen and by audio.
If I could have an updated Windows Maps device just for my car, I'd take it no question asked.
I'm soooo salty MS abandoned the Windows Phones, while it was still a strong product, if unpopular.
I get why, especially as Google tried everything to make it tank (from trying to remove every Google-centric app on the store to outright breaking Waze UI in their last update before leaving it die after they acquired it), while most people were using Google tools one way or another.
But man I'll probably still resent MS until I kick the bucket.
I hear ya I was that way too. We all knew Google was intentionally screwing around wi WP app support. Maybe one day it will return.
So sad to see them give up on WP. it truly was an OS that was ahead of its time and made so much sense, despite the fact that they were so late getting it into the market thanks to their leader's hubris and expensive licensing. By then it didn't matter how good the phonea and OS was. Because by then the app ecosystem made it impossible to catch up by then as most app developers did not have the resources to support it. And Google not letting native apps and api killed it for good. 😭
Maybe there's a timeline out there where instead of a duopoly, we have a triopoly. And WP eventually was able to run android apps natively
Remembering when Windows 10 beta mobile comes for my Lumia 535. Those old days. 😢
The windows Lumia series were one of the powerful phones, the 1020 had one of the most powerful camera ever put on a mobile, they had amoled screens and amazing hardware design yet
Microsoft has actually made a dark theme for the paint app, but it's still not on the stable release of Windows 11. I have the dark theme on my Insider build on the beta channel and it looks great.
a few things i'd try on this:
1. use oc software to either oc or undervolt to see if it works.
2. Try to allocate virtual ram from storage to os to use mostly instead of dedicated one(maybe regedit to add more vram from storage)
3. use external hardware on the lumia 11 xl cpu gpu etc
If Microsoft actually created something like this with a more phone friendly UI (similar to how Windows 10 had tablet mode) instead , WIndows Phone might've actually found a market - a pocket Windows PC with phone features.
Bro i love your vids
I genuinely enjoyed using the Lumia phones all the way back then, I had a 640 XL i updated to win 10 that I enjoyed for it's sheer size and an older Nokia lumia that used 8.1. A shame windows killed the product for no reason as per usual
can it run cyrsis?
Haha thats a good one
sure can
2 VIDS IN 1 MONTH BIG W
I love your channel you need more subs
Only if we could install mac os on ipads😀
i think u could run it on a virtual machine via jailbreaking
natively on m1/m2 ipads would be crazy@@lslranchi
Why Microsoft isn't releasing a phone with a full desktop os is beyond me. This works so well it's scary. If only they'd release a surface duo like device with full windows 11.
Because it failed. Booting a desktop os on a hardware like this will give you 2 things. A bad phone and a bad desktop. Only in the recent year mobile SOC managed to have overhead processing power that will not bake your phone. I can't consider ipad pro m1 a mobile phone device because m1 never ran on an iPhone.
@@DehyaRhea IPads aren't phones anyway...
Nice video man, and this terraria music in the background ❤
I used to love these lumia phones man!!! I had a 640 XL but I lost it in 2019 and I miss it.
if that lumia 950 can run full fledged windows 11 it would be awesome to see Android 12 run on that
Flashing Android will make this thing very usable. Developer support for the sd 810 is very good
@@ardwivedi16 I believe the 950 has an 808. 950XL has the 810 though
I wonder if this can be done on the HP Elite X3. It would be a better experience having 4GB of ram and a Snapdragon 820 vs the 808 in the Lumia 950.
I mean at that point you can just use a regular smartphone with a modern chip in it from 2023
@@frokfrdk But can you install Windows 11 on it?
@@GoogleDoesEvilMicrosoftDoesEvil too fyi
@@TerminalHeatSink Don't really care, Windows is more customizable than Android despite being closed-source.
@@GoogleDoesEvil do you know what is more customisable than windows and is opensource?
I found you thru youtubes recommendations. I really like youtuber like you who do videos on old retro tech. If you could, i request for a video where you upgrade a old samsung phone from android version to android version till 11 or 12. XDA did a video like that and i loved it, but theirs was wayy too short. Anyways, love your vids!
I am very surprised that this actually works so well! :O
Question: how is the battery life? Poor I guess. And can you still connect an external monitor and peripherals? Bluetooth mouse and keyboard should work fine
Probably should have sprung for the XL 950 since windows 11 already runs slow on the non-XL (SD 808 on the non-XL vs SD 810 the XL). The 810 also has the better GPU
Yes but it was also about how much I wanted to spend on Ebay
Ah, ok. Keep up the amazing work though ❤
Finally a new video!
I still have Windows 10 ARM on my Lumia 950. I used it as a Minecraft server for a while! It is fantastic running full Windows!
increase scaling to 150% or 200% in display settings it should make the keyboard scale properly
Scaling by default was already at 225% and I couldn't set it any higher
@@frokfrdk lower the res
@@frokfrdk ri8 below it there should be an "advanced scaling option" that lets you go from 100% to 500% try that.
This phone was just too ahead of other technologies available for mobile devices at that time.
It would have ran faster and smoother if it had better storage type like UFS
(similar to windows lags on almost anything when running from a harddrive, but instantly speedup on SSD)
I was in love with my lumia 730 and came to think about it, it was my personal fav phone i ever used, I'm a tech geek so i used a lotta phones now using s23u
Nice video bro
i would love to see tiny11 on the red magic 3
not originally a windows phone, but as far as i know was the first gaming centric phone to have an internal cooling fan, released back in 2019
it has a snapdragon 855 and a 90hz screen, minimum 6GB ram up to 12GB apparently
so it might actually be a much better experience
Holy moly that will be an amazing experience with those beastly specs
renegade project ported windows 11 to a more powerful model, the poco x3 pro, look for it!
imagine Windows on a z fold
Actually, it might be possible since it uses similar hardware to some other androids that can run Windows 11.
Oh damm saw you on the LTT discord. Didn't expect you to be in my recommended now
Quite the shenanigans going on in there
Well presented great video
Can it run Android tho?
In theory you can run Android on a Windows VM
There was an effort to port Android 12 to it and it'd boot, but I think the project is abandoned.
@@elsenorvananas it not powerful enough
@@antikommunistischaktion sad that it abandoned...
@@tigersusyt yeah SD808 is very outdated. Wondering if the SD 845 on my Oneplus 6T could chug through it.
I'm sorry you're not dankpods
damn
this video is very fun, haha, thank you
The 950 used to be my dream phone back in 2015
My dad used to have a Nokia Lumia 1021 back in 2012 which ran windows 8 but gave it away to someone else. What memories. Respect for reviving a useless phone with outdated software upgrade into windows 11.
I didnt want to click this video cuz I was sure the title was lying. But youtube was so persistent that I clicked it after weeks. And well, it wasn't a lie. God fucking bless brother.
nice video :D
8:25 you actually recorded this on my bday!!
bless you frokdrk! you're doing the lord's work!
you know it’s a good tech channel when it’s from Australia
I remember before they discontinued W10M, there was something called Project Astoria where you were able to convert Android Apps to work on Windows 10 mobile. Had Microsoft no axed Astoria, W10M would've held on a lot longer. This is very neat. If only I still had my Lumia Icon, I would've loved to try this out.
now there's android subsystem in windows 11
would be perfect if the windows 11 phone comes with that
then i can have a full computer expericen + android apps capability and its portable
@@vincwong8498 I do feel that Microsoft can still get back in the game with a windows 11 mobile. It's all ARM based anyway so some tweeks from MS itself shouldn't be impossible.
Windows I’ll still count on you to bring back the lumia phones back.❤️
wake up babe new frokfrdk
I'm a big fan!
12:28 that thing made me nightmares saying "Goodbye to your Lumia"
Video topic : Hardware
Creator : hungry
The result : "WILL IT TASTE GOOD?"
i still have windows 10 on my lumia 950. it works! super cool.
I think it's pretty impressive it does this at all cause Windows phones were spec hungry like Apple and Android, so to be running Windows 11 is just great.
Nice video
I am a new subscriber 🙋♂️
I had a lumia , can’t remember model number, but it had offline gps. Oh my god, that map from 2014 was way more cool than google map. Really miss that offline map
I didnt expect the mushroom biome music followed by blocks.
A modern windows phone with a fast snapdragon soc will be amazing especially with being able to connect to a monitor with usb c.
I'm guessing the reason why apps keep closing is because of low memory protections inside windows 11. it shuts down applications not critical or having any unsaved work if memory is unavailable and the OS is eating into the already quite limited page file.
20:30 No you don't need anything fancy. Normal headphones act as antennas, literally. That's how radio works. A long metal wire starting from the point of contact of the jack.
Worth noting that android phones past version 10 and iphones earlier than that, removed firmware-wise the capability of receiving FM radio this way. The hardware is still capable, but the original stock OS will block any app trying to use the radio.
The reason? Online radio lobby wasn't happy about free radio on phones that could've been used without paying for an internet service.
honestly i'd love this these days if it was actually supported, i already love windows 11 a lot more than 10, would be fantastic for me
30:00 had me dyinggg LMAOOOOOO subbed fam ur reaction was hilarious PLS JUST STOP STOP IT🤣🤣🤣🤣
Suddenly reminding of my Windows 10 mobile on my lumia 650.. i miss my lumia 650😢