@@maximtarna6669 Yes. Or even better you could debloat the Windows 11 you have running. Tiny 11 is not really recommended as a daily driver since you can never know what the developer has packaged in with it. If you debloat it yourself you know what is installed and what not.
@@TechKingdom35 Tiny 11 has recently come under some heat. People have found some kind of sketchy things going on with it. I'd suggest the Ghost Spectre myself. It's lighter than tiny and has it's full source code up all the time and no one has ever found anything wonky with any version of the ghost versions.
I like that you said that it was powered by the 810 chip and at the same exact time on your always-on display it said 8:10 on the clock, that was satisfying
@@TechKingdom35 I mean it is somewhat has its own desktop environment the continuum which i think is far ahead of its time and really similar to a samsung dex which is mature too. i don't think windows on arm is a very good choice for phone. I rather just have pure windows mobile, it's just sad that only few big developer would care about it. Heck even google created youtube for ios but not for windows.
Yes absolutely. I love this phone. Sadly many of the different projects for it are now down and can't be easily downloaded. I will make a video about it at some point.
The only phone I ever got that actually had dual boot (WP7.8/Android)! Though to be honest none of these options were very good... WP7 had no software and Android was sluggish as hell...
I freaked out when you said HTC HD1 at first haha + This is a GREAT video, it was so fun too see the process and the end result, you deserve loads more subs :D
I had a HTC HD2 for a while and enjoyed experimenting with different operating systems on it. I used it for a long time with Windows Phone 7, only getting a new phone when Windows Phone 8 and the Nokia Lumia 920 released, which had a mail in bonus for a wireless charger (Windows Phone got into that super early). I was gutted when my HD2 finally died, and even then it was just the charge port that stopped working. My 920 is still kicking with a broken microphone though and I bought a 950 XL just to experiment with not long ago so hearing about Tiny11 is really cool. Definitely giving this a try later.
Just give it a try as daily driver. I still use it that way. Nothing wrong with it. The absence of apps is actually a big plus, it transforms you into the next gen post-smartphone human.
i really dont understand people still barking about absence of app. 669,000 apps were available in the store. would people install the all 669,000 apps on the small screen? how many of people use those daily? how much time people spend on those 669,000 apps daily?
@@userwest626 deffo remember being happy google finally added maps. Microsoft had their own version but it wasn’t as updated. So probably little details like that where even if real apps or clones were available they weren’t up to date and updates would come after the companies took the time to release windows updates (after other os got an update) or clone apps weren’t up to par. And there’s probably a whole nother argument for people who actually use their pocket pc phones as a computer for business and computer work.
Hey.. am a big fan of windows phone. Sad that they don't make it anymore. I was wondering can I have the Windows mobile OS in today's phone? I really love their UI.
Hi :) Sadly windows mobile is dead and you can't install it on a modern phone. If you are on Android you can replace your phones menu with a lookalike to windows mobile by installing a windows mobile launcher.
926 If i recall correctly, you still get this on the windows 11 installer if you continue to hit F12 after selecting the USB device, basically it is a sub menu that allows you to select multiple ISOs if you have it set up that way. I think the menu still pops up even if you use the microsoft media creation tool with only the one ISO
this looks like an exciting Sunday afternoon experiment! The camera of 950XL is outstanding even by today's standards and it probably becomes unusable after the Win 11 installation ? Is a rollback of windows 10 mobile possible once I am done with ?
Yes, it's a fun project. The camera sadly stopps working. But you can go back very easy by flashing the original firmware again. Just make sure that you find the correct one for your phone and region first.
Great video! you think it's possible to get this working on a 950 non XL ? In France the 950 XL is not findable, but the non XL is quite cheap (around 50 euros)
Absolutely. The tutorials work for both phones. The website states that "processor management is broken - only the 4 A53 cores are working, but locked to 763Mhz". So the performance is probably worse.
The biggest problem of installing an unsupported OS on Lumia phones, is not that the OS starts and runs as this video proved, but whether the windows 11 Tiny kernel does support and allows the function of typical smatphones components as the camera, the wifi, etc., and these functionalities were not shown to work on this video.
you have made a multiboot. ending up with only 4 gb free. would you still recommend multiboot? or ditch wm11... i want to install photoshop also but likely on sdcard .. what is your advice (reason i want photoshop and w11 is because i want to hook this phone up to my display tablet for drawing (huion kamvas 11) extended screen to draw on)
I would not recommend multiboot since, as you said the space is very limited. I also wouldn't realy recommend using this phone productively. Photoshop can be demanding and this phone does not have that much power.
@@TechKingdom35 ill try that. no multyboot, im just hoping i can get it to work. just need it for sketching coloring , no fancy effects/filtering. might not work but gotta try lol. if its not what i want can i still get wm10 back on , reinstalling phones rom?
@@TechKingdom35 damn its been 6 months i see.... (never got to it due to renovation of house.) however i did go back to this video.. the best ever description on how to get windows on lumia... and last night i did just that... flawless following your video.....and it works... toasty phone with windows ..thanks.. will put on a arm version of a drawing progam on later on this week.. will be playing with it tonight with it hooked up to a tablet display . only annoying thing so far is if the phone is off and you want to charge it (not turn it on) putting in a charging cable turns on the phone... and if i dont put the startmenu in dummy itl start the windows automaticly.... but hey its still freeking awesome i now have a windows phone with real windows...making a cast with a bluetooth keyboard/mousepad thing in it this weeken so it looks like tiny laptop tooo hehe...(i willleave a comment as soon as i tested drawing on it with pentablet how it goes) love your videos
@sadev101 Hey, thanks for that comment. Really made my day :) Cool that it worked. And yes, the charging solution is a bit annoying, but as you said, real windows on a phone is awsome.
Really cool video but I wouldn't recommend downloading a tiny 11 ISO (they are often very sketchy) and its really simple to make your own tiny 11 with the builder which is made by the original creator
thanks for the nice video. I have 2 Questions. First of all, is it possible to connect to HDMI and second, can you still boot into the Windows Phone OS for using it as a phone?
I had a couple of the Lumia phones and liked the layout . Easy to set up and find things on it . I recently bought a Sony Vaio VGN-ux72 from a Japanese auction site . Stupid me did not check the version of Vista that is on it so i can not change the system language . It runs a small hard drive and i am thinking of converting it to an SSD . The hard drive connects via a ribbon cable , 40 pin i think so i will have to get a converter from that to M.2 . Windows tiny would be good for it i think
I want to get Lumia 950XL, because it can be used as thin client with USB C monitor. I have Dell P2723QE, that supports USB C input, with DP alt mode and 90W PD.
@@arnislacis9064 I did a quick google search and there seem to be some usb c powered mini PCs but they are way more expensive than the Lumia 950XL. What you could do is buy a notebook with usb c power but broken display and use that. Or a single board conputer
interasting. can it also run an external display? because if it did that, it would be a super efficent PC. not sure how many apps have an ARM version but at least you get an interface that is meant for mouse and keyboard(interfaces that aren't meant for it tend to be a bit of a pain to use).
@@2kBofFun well its even more super cheap if someone already owns the phone. but than again, they would have to buy a dongle to connect stuff to the phone. i have a Surface tablet that works pretty well when docked with a full sized monitor so i probably won't be spending any money on more efficent options. but hey, might help someone i guess.
I'm pretty sure it worked with all of my USB-C hubs (Microsoft Display Dock and some generic dock), also Windows 11 can run x86/desktop apps via emulation.
After 1 year of this, how was your experience? Kindly share in comments or either create a new video sharing the pros and cons of using tiny win 11 in lumia 950xl. Awaiting yours.
Sadly I don't really have the time to do a followup now but I can give you my thoughts in text form. I used windows on arm not only on this phone but also on a surface duo and a poco f1 (I did videos ob both as well). I think the idea to put full windows on a device that fits in your pocket is great. People are always impressed when I have one of these devices with me. But the Windows port for the Lumia 950xl just doesn't have the polish other devices have. It works fine but it can get very slow very fast depending on what you do. The surface duo on the other hand feels just like a "real" windows PC. So I wouldn't buy the 950xl to make it my main mobile device but it is fun to tinker with and makes a great conversation starter :D
I guess I could say, that Pocophone F1 is the real successor to HTC HD2 when it comes to modding. I mean come on, It could run almost any OS you throw at it. From the latest version of Android, (Given the fact that Poco abandoned the phone on Android 10) to Windows 11, and Even Linux. (PostMarket, Ubuntu. ArchLinux). plus that bonus active devs.
SIM Card works, calls also but sms not as far as I know. But the camera is also not working and the battery life as well. So not useful as a main phone
I recently got a Retroid Pocket 3+ which is an android device and I thought it was going to be awkward using android in landscape and with physical buttons, but wow it felt so good. There's a built-in virtual mouse which almost makes it like a desktop and it's so much fun to use. Microsoft said they plan on making a handheld version of windows because of all these Chinese windows PCs coming out and I hope they make it good. I always hated how limited android and iOS were. I don't understand at all why they can't just give us folder for certain things. They've VERY VERY VERY slowly added more folder-like features to stuff, but it's just so annoying how some picture files are impossible to find if you don't organize them.
@@altLilred-tv4zv tbh it can even work on 2gb ram with some tweaks, the system isn't that big in itself, it's the rest of the stuff that makes it a lot heavier
Would have been nice to see the windows 11 experience on portrait mode rather that landscape though. I mean, a smartphone is mainly meant to be used on portrait mode
@@YusTus-h9smost people use portrait mode. Not only that but Windows 11 is clearly not optimized for primarily touch interactions, let alone being on a sub 8" display
Sadly no. It uses the Snapdragon 820 (the Lumia has the 810) which seems to be incompatible with windows on arm. I have seen people ruining android on it though.
I had the Lumia950 in 2015. It was a great phone, too expensive if you compared its stats with other brands, but the OS was great. Softwaresupport was the biggest issue and MS was too proud to open up to android. Microsoft appstore is not good now but it was an even bigger joke back then. They wanted to create their own ecosystem and become a competitor to Google and Apple. Even the idea thats possible in a saturated market is dumb, but they tried anyways. And failed miserably. However, the Lumias had an always-on display, AND wireless charging in 2015! + a badass camera, so hardware-wise a pretty neat phone. Seeing your Vid now makes me kinda regret giving away the phone. I had it sitting in a drawer til last year.
Very true. The hardware was very good. Even the software was. Android has much improved but back in 2015 I think windows 10 was the better os. Sadly the lack of apps killed it
Actually back then the idea was not dumb at all and they even started selling some good numbers in some markets.... I think in France they even outsold Apple at 1 point. Issue was that MS never put any real effort in it. Even their own employees, outside of windows phone team were using mostly iphones and androids as daily drivers so even integration of their own products like Outlook/exchange worked much better on competitors devices than their own. And you can't have successful product if only 1 department is driving it. Projects like this one require initiative from the entire company. If they have done that form the start, made all their products work best with their devices, invested a bit more into app ecosystem and marketing, maybe even made a deals with larger app developers to pay them to make a native apps, instead of bad ported ones, we would definitely have a 3rd equal player on the market... maybe even a new market leader. Because WP definitely had potential and in a lot of aspects it was years ahead of competition. WP UI is still by far the best UI for phones and there were tons of features that both Apple and Google straight-up copied and monetized, while no one outside of WP enthusiasts even knew existed on WP. Just look at the Google maps live view.... it's only now arriving on android, and only in some markets..... "Nokia maps" had this feature almost 10 years ago. And there are tons more of similar examples.
Checkout how it runs on a newer phone ua-cam.com/video/PPZu7xGHHq0/v-deo.html The video is about Windows 11 on the Pocophone. It ran so well I could run modern games on it. Edit: I now also turned a foldable phone into a mini laptop using windows 11. ua-cam.com/video/mfj_6Ga6ID0/v-deo.html
Microsoft edge doesn't fully close unless you check off the option to let it run in the background on the performance/system setting section in the browser.
But bro most of videos on UA-cam are useless and even if it is usefull it's less probable that the one who uploads it will always upload usefull videos to the end viewer
Guys, if you can install Windows 2000 or XP or Vista or 7 or 8 or 8.1 or 10 or 11 so please choose this: now i ❤ to install Windows 7 Professional SP1 on My Lumia 950XL, now pin my comment to see my entire life!
does the front and rear camera both works on this distro? anyway looks cool. the lightweight version of win11 looks promising..however, if i flash this on my lumia 950 XL will i able to revert back to normal or is it irreversible? thanks anyway for the tutorial.
It was a bloodthirsty battle bewteen the big 3, they didnt fail it. It was a good battle and they fell to treachery. They just should have put apps in containers and had done with it.
I didn't want the video to become an hour long. I did test x86 Software on the Lumia in the next video. I also tested x86 Software on a Pocophone in a more recent video.
Good morning first thanks for your demonstration and for your time , i own lumia 1320 upgrade it from WP 8.1 to latest ver. of WP 10 so can i do the same as you do and upgrade it to win 11 tiny knowing it has lower hardware configuration thanks for your feed back in advance
Nice video, but can you install tiny win 11 pro on any old phone even with less ram and rom? I have an old phone that i can use and recently found back. I saw in other videos that they installed it on really old hardware with less than 1gb of ram. Or perhaps that was the tiny win 10 version. For me it just looks like fun to try out. I do not care if i brick the phone. And i need something to see my nas and play music from it on my music system. And yes it is easier to use a win laptop but that is not the point.
Thanks for the comment :) The short answer is no. This sis the oldest phone you can install Windows 10 or 11 on. The reason you see people using tiny 11 on super old devices is the CPU architecture of those devices. They are all X86 (Like a desktop pc). The video here installed it on an ARM device (so a phone). There the requirements are quite different and as far as I know the Lumia 950 from this video is already the absolute low-end.
True, it is very cool. You can do everything that you would do on a normal Windows PC. On this specific phone games are not possible but I made another video on the Poco F1. There games like GTA IV or Tomb raider are even possible. No it does sadly not work on the Lumia 650.
is there any custom debloated rom that can be installed on any old device? for example on an old android tablet that was discontinued from official updates and its stuck on 4.4 kitkat
The is nothing universal, no. But if you google for your specific tablet model there is probably a rom out there. The more popular the device was/is the more developers will port roms to it.
Yes a few from Microsoft. If you check out my newest video you can see the renegade project. They support more phones but the installation is more involved. I installed Windows on a Xiaomi Poco F1 using that method.
Sadly I cant find my Lumix 950Xl FFU searching the net cant seem to find it here's my phone details Product type: RM-116 Productcode : 059X458 and Operatorcode: 000-SG, for now I will have to find to find another way 🙂@@TechKingdom35
Arevyou sure? Because there is some coil looking thing on the backcover that connects to those pins. But I haven't tested if wireless charging stops working if I would block the pins
Yes its super cool. They also port them to newer phones. I did a video on a Pocophone with full windows 11. I even played games drom a dvd. Tiny Windows devices are awsome :) I have a few videos on some of them like the GPD Pockets.
@@TechKingdom35 I just tried to do this again on another Lumia 950, this time, after saving the FFU files from the phone, WPInternals completely removed every single file from my downloads folder (there was important stuff in there), only leaving empty folders and itself (it wont even start anymore). I ran it from my downloads folder yes but its never done this. I wont ever do this again.
Hi there, enjoyed the video, i used to own a 950, it really was the best phone i have ever used, even all these years later i still think how awesome that device was/is, i knew it had hidden potential which you proved here installing W11. 1. The Tiny11 iso was 4.2GB which is the same size as a normal W11 iso?? I wonder why the file is so big? (Tiny11 file) 2. Does edge work? 3. Did you connect to wifi or insert a sim? Would appreciate if you could get back to me, thanks in advance.
Thank you :) 1. I would assume there are scripts or configs that just skip warts of the installation. That would explain why the iso has the same size. But I sadly don't know. 2. Yes edge works , but is a bit slow 3. For the video I used wifi. But simcard should also work. Even ethernet via a usb adaptor should work
Hey cool, an ARM version of Tiny11. And you have an HD2, always wanted one. Great video, well done!
Dude thanks for your comment, I really like your videos. Yes the HD2 is a great phone, but you have a Fujitsu F-07C :) That thing is just insane.
I have original iso of windows 11 on my OnePlus 7T Pro, can I install tiny11 on the device?
@@maximtarna6669 Yes. Or even better you could debloat the Windows 11 you have running. Tiny 11 is not really recommended as a daily driver since you can never know what the developer has packaged in with it. If you debloat it yourself you know what is installed and what not.
@@TechKingdom35 Tiny 11 has recently come under some heat. People have found some kind of sketchy things going on with it. I'd suggest the Ghost Spectre myself. It's lighter than tiny and has it's full source code up all the time and no one has ever found anything wonky with any version of the ghost versions.
@@maximtarna6669 you probably shouldn't, Tiny11 could have who knows what inside it
I love how nerdy and appreciative of old tech this is
Thank you very much. More to come :)
I like that you said that it was powered by the 810 chip and at the same exact time on your always-on display it said 8:10 on the clock, that was satisfying
:D nice, that was not intentional
The quality of the video is on a different level altogether considering your subscribers. I am honestly subscribed
Thank you very much :)
Too sick. I would love to see Microsoft release another windows phone other than the android based one.
Yes very sad that Windows Phone died before Windows on Arm was ready. A phone that can transform into a full PC would be awesome.
@Kingdom3533 exactly! If WSA is possible on Tiny11, it could be absolutely amazing.
@@TechKingdom35 I mean it is somewhat has its own desktop environment the continuum which i think is far ahead of its time and really similar to a samsung dex which is mature too. i don't think windows on arm is a very good choice for phone. I rather just have pure windows mobile, it's just sad that only few big developer would care about it. Heck even google created youtube for ios but not for windows.
Nah they sucked.. Nokia learned this the hard way.
Yes. Android is over glorified though there's nothing impressive about it
500 subs only???? wth!! i thought like, you had at least 100k, by the video quality!!!
Haha, thanks :) I would love to have 100k subs. Maybe one day
@@TechKingdom35 does cell service still work on windows 11 on it and does gpu work correctly too
Same
@@TechKingdom35 Windows Phone 11 Is Now Released LMFAO
Me too
I love the vibe here haha and I REALLY MISS MY LIVE TILES
Oh man, the HD2... What a dream phone that was for people who were into modding
Yes absolutely. I love this phone. Sadly many of the different projects for it are now down and can't be easily downloaded. I will make a video about it at some point.
The only phone I ever got that actually had dual boot (WP7.8/Android)! Though to be honest none of these options were very good... WP7 had no software and Android was sluggish as hell...
@@Liam3072 I also had dualboot on mine. What a great phone.
I freaked out when you said HTC HD1 at first haha
+ This is a GREAT video, it was so fun too see the process and the end result, you deserve loads more subs :D
Thank you :)
great video mate! good luck on all your future tech tinkering endeavours
Thank you :)
I had a HTC HD2 for a while and enjoyed experimenting with different operating systems on it. I used it for a long time with Windows Phone 7, only getting a new phone when Windows Phone 8 and the Nokia Lumia 920 released, which had a mail in bonus for a wireless charger (Windows Phone got into that super early). I was gutted when my HD2 finally died, and even then it was just the charge port that stopped working. My 920 is still kicking with a broken microphone though and I bought a 950 XL just to experiment with not long ago so hearing about Tiny11 is really cool. Definitely giving this a try later.
I remember this phone. Back in the day it had a million Roms, android and windows phone. Crazy stuff.
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You just gained a sub! Keep going if you really enjoy doing this as much as I think you do.
Thank you very much :) More to come
the legacy of windows phone lives on!
Saved this, always enjoyed working with phone software. I have a couple of old Nokia phones waiting to be guinea pigs.
Cool, hope you could do something cool with your guinea pigs :)
Just give it a try as daily driver. I still use it that way. Nothing wrong with it. The absence of apps is actually a big plus, it transforms you into the next gen post-smartphone human.
Also a way to view it :). The hardware is still very nice though.
i really dont understand people still barking about absence of app. 669,000 apps were available in the store. would people install the all 669,000 apps on the small screen? how many of people use those daily? how much time people spend on those 669,000 apps daily?
@@userwest626 you clearly dont understand, the issue is that the essential apps that almost everyone uses were missing
@@userwest626 deffo remember being happy google finally added maps. Microsoft had their own version but it wasn’t as updated. So probably little details like that where even if real apps or clones were available they weren’t up to date and updates would come after the companies took the time to release windows updates (after other os got an update) or clone apps weren’t up to par. And there’s probably a whole nother argument for people who actually use their pocket pc phones as a computer for business and computer work.
@@ondrejbrandejsky5592 what do you consider essential? If youre a typical “I use my phone as a UA-cam viewing machine” then everything was there..
One of the most beautiful setup and existing video 🤩❤
Thank you :)
Hey.. am a big fan of windows phone. Sad that they don't make it anymore. I was wondering can I have the Windows mobile OS in today's phone? I really love their UI.
Hi :) Sadly windows mobile is dead and you can't install it on a modern phone. If you are on Android you can replace your phones menu with a lookalike to windows mobile by installing a windows mobile launcher.
926 If i recall correctly, you still get this on the windows 11 installer if you continue to hit F12 after selecting the USB device, basically it is a sub menu that allows you to select multiple ISOs if you have it set up that way.
I think the menu still pops up even if you use the microsoft media creation tool with only the one ISO
Love you bro❤ from India
Thanks
That was entertaining & educational. Good video. Subscribed immediately after watching.
I wish this phone is easy to find in my country.
Thank you very much. There are many phones that can run Windows. Like the Pocophone F1 or OnePlus 6T. Maybe another phone is easier to find
@@TechKingdom35 Pocophone F1 can do this mod? Nice! That phone is released here afaik. Is the procedure same as this Lumia one?
@@TechKingdom35 which one runs Windows better?
@@rezqiano No it looks to be a bit more complicated. But there are a few tutorials on youtube.
@@ImmortalChanger Sadly I don't know. The technical specs are very similar so I would guess it is about the same but I don't know.
Finally this guy dont lie with us saying we now install windows 11 app made by unity and having ads😭😭😭😭😭
Enjoyed the video you earned a sub right away
this looks like an exciting Sunday afternoon experiment! The camera of 950XL is outstanding even by today's standards and it probably becomes unusable after the Win 11 installation ? Is a rollback of windows 10 mobile possible once I am done with ?
Yes, it's a fun project. The camera sadly stopps working. But you can go back very easy by flashing the original firmware again. Just make sure that you find the correct one for your phone and region first.
You can dual boot
I miss windows mobile Lumia phone was my favorite phone ever such a great camera software images with HDR and great video also
Yes the Nokia/Lumia phones had very good cameras
Great video!
you think it's possible to get this working on a 950 non XL ?
In France the 950 XL is not findable, but the non XL is quite cheap (around 50 euros)
Absolutely. The tutorials work for both phones. The website states that "processor management is broken - only the 4 A53 cores are working, but locked to 763Mhz". So the performance is probably worse.
@@TechKingdom35 Thank you so much for your answer!
@@TaoEffects Pas de problème :)
The website hasnt been updated in a while. The 763 MHz limit has been removed a while ago and it now runs at 1.55 Ghz
@@pinguin2001 Cool, thanks for the information.
My lumia stop at reset protection key 5ys ago
How can I fix it???
The biggest problem of installing an unsupported OS on Lumia phones, is not that the OS starts and runs as this video proved, but whether the windows 11 Tiny kernel does support and allows the function of typical smatphones components as the camera, the wifi, etc., and these functionalities were not shown to work on this video.
Maybe if you stop being lazy and search you would not be talking that shit
you have made a multiboot. ending up with only 4 gb free. would you still recommend multiboot? or ditch wm11... i want to install photoshop also but likely on sdcard .. what is your advice
(reason i want photoshop and w11 is because i want to hook this phone up to my display tablet for drawing (huion kamvas 11) extended screen to draw on)
I would not recommend multiboot since, as you said the space is very limited. I also wouldn't realy recommend using this phone productively. Photoshop can be demanding and this phone does not have that much power.
@@TechKingdom35 ill try that. no multyboot, im just hoping i can get it to work. just need it for sketching coloring , no fancy effects/filtering. might not work but gotta try lol. if its not what i want can i still get wm10 back on , reinstalling phones rom?
@@sadev101 Okay, I hope it works out. Yes you can reinstall windows phone
@@TechKingdom35 damn its been 6 months i see.... (never got to it due to renovation of house.) however i did go back to this video.. the best ever description on how to get windows on lumia... and last night i did just that... flawless following your video.....and it works... toasty phone with windows ..thanks.. will put on a arm version of a drawing progam on later on this week.. will be playing with it tonight with it hooked up to a tablet display . only annoying thing so far is if the phone is off and you want to charge it (not turn it on) putting in a charging cable turns on the phone... and if i dont put the startmenu in dummy itl start the windows automaticly.... but hey its still freeking awesome i now have a windows phone with real windows...making a cast with a bluetooth keyboard/mousepad thing in it this weeken so it looks like tiny laptop tooo hehe...(i willleave a comment as soon as i tested drawing on it with pentablet how it goes) love your videos
@sadev101 Hey, thanks for that comment. Really made my day :) Cool that it worked. And yes, the charging solution is a bit annoying, but as you said, real windows on a phone is awsome.
Really cool video but I wouldn't recommend downloading a tiny 11 ISO (they are often very sketchy) and its really simple to make your own tiny 11 with the builder which is made by the original creator
You are absolutely correct. Premade images are a security nightmare. For a daily driver I would not use them.
thanks for the nice video. I have 2 Questions. First of all, is it possible to connect to HDMI and second, can you still boot into the Windows Phone OS for using it as a phone?
I had a couple of the Lumia phones and liked the layout . Easy to set up and find things on it . I recently bought a Sony Vaio VGN-ux72 from a Japanese auction site . Stupid me did not check the version of Vista that is on it so i can not change the system language . It runs a small hard drive and i am thinking of converting it to an SSD . The hard drive connects via a ribbon cable , 40 pin i think so i will have to get a converter from that to M.2 . Windows tiny would be good for it i think
Maybe mSATA. My Vaio TZ2 also was at small hdd, now this at mSATA
You didn't show the phone and OS on portrait orientation
True but I did in the follow-up video called "Can this phone replace your pc?". Check it out :)
I want to get Lumia 950XL, because it can be used as thin client with USB C monitor. I have Dell P2723QE, that supports USB C input, with DP alt mode and 90W PD.
That is probably doable but the performance of a cheap intel nuc is probably better
@@TechKingdom35 yes, but the Dell P2723QE could power phone, with only single USB C cable.
@@arnislacis9064 That is true. Maybe also look into netbooks or ultrabooks with USB-C. There you wouldn't have problems with the ARM 86X emulation
@@TechKingdom35 is there are available in market to some mini PCs with USB C power and DP alt mode?
@@arnislacis9064 I did a quick google search and there seem to be some usb c powered mini PCs but they are way more expensive than the Lumia 950XL. What you could do is buy a notebook with usb c power but broken display and use that. Or a single board conputer
This is awesome ❤️🔥🔥
interasting. can it also run an external display? because if it did that, it would be a super efficent PC. not sure how many apps have an ARM version but at least you get an interface that is meant for mouse and keyboard(interfaces that aren't meant for it tend to be a bit of a pain to use).
You are probably better off with Debian to make it a super cheap helluvalot faster Raspberry Pi.
@@2kBofFun well its even more super cheap if someone already owns the phone. but than again, they would have to buy a dongle to connect stuff to the phone. i have a Surface tablet that works pretty well when docked with a full sized monitor so i probably won't be spending any money on more efficent options. but hey, might help someone i guess.
I'm pretty sure it worked with all of my USB-C hubs (Microsoft Display Dock and some generic dock), also Windows 11 can run x86/desktop apps via emulation.
As said before: I think he left out the "cons" for reasons... like having no sound and cam and stuff...
After 1 year of this, how was your experience? Kindly share in comments or either create a new video sharing the pros and cons of using tiny win 11 in lumia 950xl.
Awaiting yours.
Sadly I don't really have the time to do a followup now but I can give you my thoughts in text form. I used windows on arm not only on this phone but also on a surface duo and a poco f1 (I did videos ob both as well). I think the idea to put full windows on a device that fits in your pocket is great. People are always impressed when I have one of these devices with me. But the Windows port for the Lumia 950xl just doesn't have the polish other devices have. It works fine but it can get very slow very fast depending on what you do. The surface duo on the other hand feels just like a "real" windows PC. So I wouldn't buy the 950xl to make it my main mobile device but it is fun to tinker with and makes a great conversation starter :D
Now this is real Windows phone.
Great video! Thank you 😊 Could you do a video on installing ubuntu touch (or another linux distro) on the lumia 950?
Thanks. I do want to do that at some time. Ubuntu Touch is a very interesting OS :)
@@TechKingdom35 I would be very interest about that for sure
I guess I could say, that Pocophone F1 is the real successor to HTC HD2 when it comes to modding. I mean come on, It could run almost any OS you throw at it. From the latest version of Android, (Given the fact that Poco abandoned the phone on Android 10) to Windows 11, and Even Linux. (PostMarket, Ubuntu. ArchLinux). plus that bonus active devs.
Yes the Pocophone F1 is also very developer friendly. I actually bought one to play around with today :D
@@TechKingdom35 Wow!! Really? Looking forward to your video about it.
@@TechKingdom35 only issue is heat maybe ?
@@sargera1 On the Lumia yes. The Poco has been better regarding heat
Android is Linux
great video but, wat about the mobile phone usage ? SIM Card , Call and SMS still working ?
SIM Card works, calls also but sms not as far as I know. But the camera is also not working and the battery life as well. So not useful as a main phone
i miss Lumia
insane as always
I recently got a Retroid Pocket 3+ which is an android device and I thought it was going to be awkward using android in landscape and with physical buttons, but wow it felt so good. There's a built-in virtual mouse which almost makes it like a desktop and it's so much fun to use. Microsoft said they plan on making a handheld version of windows because of all these Chinese windows PCs coming out and I hope they make it good. I always hated how limited android and iOS were. I don't understand at all why they can't just give us folder for certain things. They've VERY VERY VERY slowly added more folder-like features to stuff, but it's just so annoying how some picture files are impossible to find if you don't organize them.
Definitely going to do this with one of my 950s
Try it, it's really cool :)
Biggest issue with 950 was poor power management... Great to know, that W11 can still somehow run on these devices.
True cool to see windows 11 running but it really didn't help the power management problematic :D
Welcome to 2023 and most Android flagships still suck at power management.
For some reason during the deployment phase the phone will not register as being in mass storage mode any thoughts or suggestions?
Is it being detected by the computer? So can you see it in windows explorer?
I have a question:why tiny 11?
Because the phone has 3 gigs of ram and 32gb memory. I'ts very smart desicion
@WRX_695 oh,can tiny11 work on laptops have 3gb of ram?
@@altLilred-tv4zv tbh it can even work on 2gb ram with some tweaks, the system isn't that big in itself, it's the rest of the stuff that makes it a lot heavier
That's really freaking cool.
Would have been nice to see the windows 11 experience on portrait mode rather that landscape though. I mean, a smartphone is mainly meant to be used on portrait mode
LOL
FOR YOU MAYBE
I DO EVERYTHING IN LANDSCAPE MODE ON MY S20U
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Heh same
@@YusTus-h9smost people use portrait mode. Not only that but Windows 11 is clearly not optimized for primarily touch interactions, let alone being on a sub 8" display
nice video. just on small objection, why r u holding the phone in portrait mode all the time?
:D Why not it's a phone. But it has accelerometer support, so you can just rotate it :)
Snapdragon 8..still a beast
True, but the 810 runs a little hot
I wonder about the possibilities of getting that on a HP Elite x3.
I have one and it's already running Windows 10 Mobile.
Sadly no. It uses the Snapdragon 820 (the Lumia has the 810) which seems to be incompatible with windows on arm. I have seen people ruining android on it though.
Lumia 950 is my favorite phone only this one
It still looks very modern
Where do you have the flashfile from ?
I had the Lumia950 in 2015.
It was a great phone, too expensive if you compared its stats with other brands, but the OS was great. Softwaresupport was the biggest issue and MS was too proud to open up to android. Microsoft appstore is not good now but it was an even bigger joke back then. They wanted to create their own ecosystem and become a competitor to Google and Apple. Even the idea thats possible in a saturated market is dumb, but they tried anyways. And failed miserably.
However, the Lumias had an always-on display, AND wireless charging in 2015! + a badass camera, so hardware-wise a pretty neat phone.
Seeing your Vid now makes me kinda regret giving away the phone. I had it sitting in a drawer til last year.
Very true. The hardware was very good. Even the software was. Android has much improved but back in 2015 I think windows 10 was the better os. Sadly the lack of apps killed it
Actually back then the idea was not dumb at all and they even started selling some good numbers in some markets.... I think in France they even outsold Apple at 1 point. Issue was that MS never put any real effort in it. Even their own employees, outside of windows phone team were using mostly iphones and androids as daily drivers so even integration of their own products like Outlook/exchange worked much better on competitors devices than their own.
And you can't have successful product if only 1 department is driving it. Projects like this one require initiative from the entire company.
If they have done that form the start, made all their products work best with their devices, invested a bit more into app ecosystem and marketing, maybe even made a deals with larger app developers to pay them to make a native apps, instead of bad ported ones, we would definitely have a 3rd equal player on the market... maybe even a new market leader. Because WP definitely had potential and in a lot of aspects it was years ahead of competition.
WP UI is still by far the best UI for phones and there were tons of features that both Apple and Google straight-up copied and monetized, while no one outside of WP enthusiasts even knew existed on WP. Just look at the Google maps live view.... it's only now arriving on android, and only in some markets..... "Nokia maps" had this feature almost 10 years ago.
And there are tons more of similar examples.
Cool vid dude. Btw are you gonna play doom on it?
Already did that in the followup video. It ran very very slow :D
Checkout how it runs on a newer phone ua-cam.com/video/PPZu7xGHHq0/v-deo.html
The video is about Windows 11 on the Pocophone. It ran so well I could run modern games on it.
Edit:
I now also turned a foldable phone into a mini laptop using windows 11. ua-cam.com/video/mfj_6Ga6ID0/v-deo.html
It's upgraded to Ram & soc (snapdragon 870 )
When I deploy it's getting error file not found
I loved my Lumia 950 XL, but it sits now collecting dust. Guess I'd better pull it out of storage.
Microsoft edge doesn't fully close unless you check off the option to let it run in the background on the performance/system setting section in the browser.
Yes, I somehow forgot that during filming
90% didnt subbed
Probably like 99% 😓
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99.9 %
But bro most of videos on UA-cam are useless and even if it is usefull it's less probable that the one who uploads it will always upload usefull videos to the end viewer
This is my type of content I like
Thanks
Guys, if you can install Windows 2000 or XP or Vista or 7 or 8 or 8.1 or 10 or 11 so please choose this: now i ❤ to install Windows 7 Professional SP1 on My Lumia 950XL, now pin my comment to see my entire life!
does the front and rear camera both works on this distro? anyway looks cool. the lightweight version of win11 looks promising..however, if i flash this on my lumia 950 XL will i able to revert back to normal or is it irreversible? thanks anyway for the tutorial.
Sadly both did not work for me.
I just read the second part of your question. Yes you can go back. There are tutorials on how to reinstall windows mobile.
So sad for nokia 😓, they sold the company to windows and they failed it 😭
True. Very sad to see. They made such great phones
It was a bloodthirsty battle bewteen the big 3, they didnt fail it. It was a good battle and they fell to treachery. They just should have put apps in containers and had done with it.
They did not sell it to microsoft they just mace a project together
At 3:43 what's the name of the device on the right side?
GPD Pocket 2 a the worlds smallest windows 10/11 Notebook. I have a review of it (and the first generation) on my channel
Hey i also have a HTC HD2, what custom roms would you recommend as i cant seem to find any good modern ones out there.
But why no software tests, I was hoping to see how it can run x86-64 apps given that Windows on ARM already can. Or this version can't yet?
I didn't want the video to become an hour long. I did test x86 Software on the Lumia in the next video. I also tested x86 Software on a Pocophone in a more recent video.
Does the device include Google Play to download applications or only Windows!??
No why would it have the Google Play store? It has the Microsoft store. There is only Windows 11 running there no Android
Good morning
first thanks for your demonstration and for your time , i own lumia 1320 upgrade it from WP 8.1 to latest ver. of WP 10 so can i do the same as you do and upgrade it to win 11 tiny knowing it has lower hardware configuration thanks for your feed back in advance
Great 👍 job...will this method works for HP elite x3 Windows 10 mobile?!
Thank you, sadly it doesn't
Nice video, but can you install tiny win 11 pro on any old phone even with less ram and rom? I have an old phone that i can use and recently found back. I saw in other videos that they installed it on really old hardware with less than 1gb of ram. Or perhaps that was the tiny win 10 version. For me it just looks like fun to try out. I do not care if i brick the phone. And i need something to see my nas and play music from it on my music system. And yes it is easier to use a win laptop but that is not the point.
Thanks for the comment :) The short answer is no. This sis the oldest phone you can install Windows 10 or 11 on. The reason you see people using tiny 11 on super old devices is the CPU architecture of those devices. They are all X86 (Like a desktop pc). The video here installed it on an ARM device (so a phone). There the requirements are quite different and as far as I know the Lumia 950 from this video is already the absolute low-end.
IE11/Edge always does that. Gadgets collections 😍. Is there any blue screen error, when we refixing the battery and mass storage!?
Great video, any idea if this may work on an hp x3? I'm thinking about giving it a try since i still have it and hate not being able to use anymore.
Sadly I am not sure the are some people that claim it works but I could not find a good tutorial on it
do it
Who wouldn’t buy one of these unique phones today. Love it
Sadly, without modern app support, they are not really usable as a smartphone in 2023.
Blackberry Z10 also had those two pins next to memory card port. I think that could be for NFC
Probably since the Z10 doesn't have wireless charging the coil in the backcover probably is for NFC.
Best phone i ever had!!😢😢😢 Videos from this phone look so awesome even today. I dont use apps when there is a website, like Facebook
True it had a very good camera
Amazing!!! By the way, what can you do on the windows, can you install apps on it, also will this work for my Lumia 650? Thanks!
True, it is very cool. You can do everything that you would do on a normal Windows PC. On this specific phone games are not possible but I made another video on the Poco F1. There games like GTA IV or Tomb raider are even possible. No it does sadly not work on the Lumia 650.
Hi, it's very cool man! Do you know If I can do it on other windows phone models like the lumia 640? Thank you.
Sadly, no. The 950 and 950xl are already slow enough, so anything with worse specs would be horrible.
@@TechKingdom35 I imagined that. Thank you.
I haw a alcatel idol 4 pro can i do the same steps?
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Sadly not. That phone is not supported as far as I know
is there any custom debloated rom that can be installed on any old device? for example on an old android tablet that was discontinued from official updates and its stuck on 4.4 kitkat
The is nothing universal, no. But if you google for your specific tablet model there is probably a rom out there. The more popular the device was/is the more developers will port roms to it.
@@TechKingdom35 aight thanks for the info
does the flasher youve used can be use on other phones? thanks
Yes a few from Microsoft. If you check out my newest video you can see the renegade project. They support more phones but the installation is more involved. I installed Windows on a Xiaomi Poco F1 using that method.
I have a Lumia 950XL in my dry box time to bring it out and have a try.
Of course, try it. A fun weekend project. But don't expect everything to work:)
Sadly I cant find my Lumix 950Xl FFU searching the net cant seem to find it here's my phone details Product type: RM-116 Productcode : 059X458 and Operatorcode: 000-SG, for now I will have to find to find another way 🙂@@TechKingdom35
Does USB->HDMI work? Can you dock it like this for a full desktop mode?
Yes, that works really well. Even extended display works 💪
Hi! I have a question. Does Lumia 640xl (Snapdragon 400) support Windows ARM64?
As far as I know there is no support. The Snapdragon 400 dies not support the 64bit instruction set needed for the installation
@@TechKingdom35 Thanks. I have Windows 10 arm32 on it. No browser:(
Only ARM32 version which has way less support than W10M and less apps.
The 2 pin in the back is not wireless charger but I don't really what the usage of the pins
Arevyou sure? Because there is some coil looking thing on the backcover that connects to those pins. But I haven't tested if wireless charging stops working if I would block the pins
@@TechKingdom35 my old galaxy note 3 also had that pin but it doesn't support wireless charging
why the white windows and background on 4 minute mark is piss yellow?
:D great comment. Sadly my capturing device has did that. I don't know why. In other videos this didn't happen
Did not know that people are porting desktop windows on old Lumia phones. Tiny Windows devices fascinates me.
Yes its super cool. They also port them to newer phones. I did a video on a Pocophone with full windows 11. I even played games drom a dvd. Tiny Windows devices are awsome :) I have a few videos on some of them like the GPD Pockets.
@@TechKingdom35 BTW, Windows Mobile OS (based from Windows CE) is different from Windows Phone OS.
I would love to see Microsoft release another windows phone
Absolutely
what is the name of the small computer in your video?
Thats a GPD Pocket 2. Very cool device :)
Great project bro. You are a genius. Is there any qwerty phones, like Blackberry Passport, we can try tiny11?
yes ßóñy
Can you play low end fps pc games on this phone?
Interesting project 😮
Thanks
@@TechKingdom35 You just earned yourself a subscriber...🙂
Im stuck at the woa deployer part. whenever I press desploy it tells me theres a piece of a path missing somewhere.
Sorry for the late reply. But I've seen you got it working
@@TechKingdom35 I just tried to do this again on another Lumia 950, this time, after saving the FFU files from the phone, WPInternals completely removed every single file from my downloads folder (there was important stuff in there), only leaving empty folders and itself (it wont even start anymore). I ran it from my downloads folder yes but its never done this. I wont ever do this again.
Thanks for sharing.
Keep doing great..... ❤ sending Love from India.....
Thank you very much :)
Hi there, enjoyed the video, i used to own a 950, it really was the best phone i have ever used, even all these years later i still think how awesome that device was/is, i knew it had hidden potential which you proved here installing W11.
1. The Tiny11 iso was 4.2GB which is the same size as a normal W11 iso?? I wonder why the file is so big? (Tiny11 file)
2. Does edge work?
3. Did you connect to wifi or insert a sim?
Would appreciate if you could get back to me, thanks in advance.
Thank you :)
1. I would assume there are scripts or configs that just skip warts of the installation. That would explain why the iso has the same size. But I sadly don't know.
2. Yes edge works , but is a bit slow
3. For the video I used wifi. But simcard should also work. Even ethernet via a usb adaptor should work
Will this install hp tuners vcm suite and it’s mpvi 2 drivers if so I’m getting one asap?
Sadly, I have no idea
Updating makes the taskbar disappear. and not usable. Any suggestion.
Nice quality and video
Thanks :)