I did my gleba almost the same way as i did all the other planets. Click-drag a long line of factories, build stuff and be done with it. The only difference with gleba is that you need to do things in loops. The setup in this video has every building as an individual factory and has its own lines, but if you use loops, then you can make long lines of factories. In my setup, i put spoilage and nutrients onto the same belt, which goes around in a loop. Inside the loop are 2-3 factories which turn spoilage back into nutrients. On the outside of the loop, is the main layer of factories which do all the production. At the end of each production line, there is a belt that pulls off all the spoilage and sends it into the loop. I also have a few circuit controllers which regulate how much spoilage and nutrients are on the loop. If there is too much, a burner switches on, if not enough, more is requested. On top of that, there is a secondary nutrient factory inside the loop that uses bioflux to generate nutrients, if there isnt enough spoilage OR nutrients on the belt.
I love that Gleba has so many ways to solve problems. You can overproduce and void, you can do highly efficient circuit controls, you can build a megabase, or you can do the bare minimum. I don't think we've ever had so many (very viable) ways to solve puzzles before, and it's just incredible.
Yeah, after my initial WTF-Phase we all had to go through I really quickly fell in love with this Planet. So many options, so much output out of low amounts of space, it's really lovely. I only felt like building here was more tedious than on the other two planets I were on.
@@Ic0nGaming Gleba is the last of my initial four planets, so I arrived and threw down my Big Drills on the Stone deposits and made lots of landfill; That helped a lot.
Landed on Gleba last night, went to sleep at 6am. 😅 Definitely agree with taking it slow and working in small units. Loving it just like all the other planets. Each one has its own fun new challenges
True You also should know basics of circuit networks For example my factory starts crafting initial bacteria only if I am low on bacteria and bacteria duplication is stopped Pentapod eggs are used for agricultural pack only if logistics network has more than 10 eggs
Circuit networks and bots are great solutions, but not mandatory. Especially the bacteria part is just ... It's not really a problem to let it permanently produce Bacteria, even if the duplicator is running. The input are a few pieces of Jelly/Mash which are endless. Obviously using circuit networks makes it less wasteful, but Gleba doesn't care about waste at all.
@@sir_duckington1245 I called a sapce amazon yes. Drones did the work. If you make the mistake to go there with no autosupply chain you are fkd and you need to charge another save.
Tip number zero: You gonna get stuck there for a while, longer than fulgoria or vulcanus, so make sure you're nauvis factory is fully completely self sufficient and protected. I keep reloading old save because in 5 hours, my walls started to get eaten and I was not in mood to cover nauvis of roboport to reach the walls
@@Etrehumain123 A tip to past me: Transport the cargo to establish a new Silo on-site, together with the ingredients for rocket parts. I believe it's mandatory for Aquilo... My on-Ship factory parked at Aquilo will probably be capable of making Concrete in Space, maybe even up to Blue Chips and LDS if possible. Edit: No Stone in Space, so no concrete; I believe that one could start Coal Liquefaction in Space, however... A task for another time.
@@TomSmith749 my approach for Gleba is to send blue chips and LDSes there to be able to launch rockets with science. The only things I automated on Gleba is science, bioflux and rocket fuel.
I ran into this same problem and had to do weird jury rigging to upgrade my existing wall depots to let me build new mining areas from them. It turns out you can put roboports in tanks and drive them remotely.
For people that really dislike gleba it can be worth it to either save for later or have a supply chain set up to funnel resources from vulcanus or fulgora. if you start to run low on supplies here progression will slow to an absolute CRAWL. I abused the hell out of beacons with speed 2 upgrades here, it allowed me to chew through all the resources I got from farming with producing as little waste as possible. I tried to NEVER have my system back up.
Yeah, strong agree on that one. I did go for a start with only Construction Drones as Import (cause seriously I can't live w/o) and tried out how to do it without any starting resources. It's slow, yes. But mostly cause I didn't know what the hell I was doing :D But due to the fact that the things you HAVE to do on Gleba are relatively simple and short recipe chains, modules (like you say) really do have a huge impact. Importing beacons is helluva smart idea.
So many people hate this planet, but ive spent many hours trying to squeeze output out of my factory on Gleba, and ive enjoyed it once i got things sufficiently spun up. The fact that the fruits spoil far slower than their processed counterparts means that i can process them at my leisure, but i need to spend more time iterating on my designs. Using the Gleba Biolab with its Productivity modifier is a must for processing Jelly and Mash, IMO. Real game-changer when i got some Rare and Moduled machines pushing the product.
If you don't care about things spoiling you will have a much happier time. That was definitely a great tip. Setting up a lubricant factory with controlled nutrient production was a pita. If you supply endless nutrients and just deal with the spoilage it's 10 times less painful....but "you created waste and that is bad so don't do it" :D
my launch list consists of circuits, steel, one rocket silo worth of supplies at minimu plus extra motors, all the PPs and ports to set up a logistics bot network, with one stack of every chest type, and the supplies to set up a mall. I always make my spaceship able to launch down iron so I can use it to help me get set up early
man thx for this gleba broke my mind so ive been taking a break from factorio for like 2 weeks i usually try to figure it out my self. i dont hate gleba i love the idea of the spoilage mechanic in a game like factorio. but man have a self sufficient base and space platform incase you want to get off of it( learn that the hard way after i visited vulcanus) also the idea of using rocket full as a normal full source would have never crossed my mind will definitely be using rocket full for power now.
Active provider chests make life so much easier. Just slap them in and have bots carry your spoilage away. You can deal with oversupply by providing inputs as loops -- you run the belt by your inserters consuming it, and then send the excess back to the bus.
There is an argument to be made to position your primary labs on Gleba since the sci packs have a shelf life and give you less research per pack as they degrade. And even with just 4 Bioplants plugging away is enough to feed over 20 modded labs with no downtime.
But the science on gleba is free anyway, just make 2x the amount. plus using the special labs makes it so that doing science anywhere but nauvis is just a waste
That actually works well as rocket fuel takes up the most storage space so it's easier to supply a rapid rocket network from Gleba(Which is also a good hub on the space map).
My relationship with Gleba is so complicated. First I hated it, then I hated it even more, now I'm producing a couple of belts of iron and copper without clogging / manually restarting and it's not all bad anymore. Infinite resources are very attractive. It was uncomfortable for me because it made me feel like I'm on a timer all the time, when turns out, not really.
Yeah Gleba is a weird one. I still kinda dislike the place for all it's extra tediousness it implores due to fuel+waste management. But yeah, endless resources on the other hand ^^
02:14 I disagree. If you start tapping into the fruit reserves with a non-functional base you will spoil all the fruits in transit or while fixing it and you will lose the seeds. Trees cannot be multiplied. One tree gives you on average one seed. It is probability based to it may vary of course, but at the end of the day the math says it should perfectly balance out. If you handle fruits incirrectly you will lose a lot of seeds and will have to explore further to get back more fruits to replenish your seeds.
Mashing with biochambers actually gives 1.5 seeds per tree because of the productivity bonus, even more with modules. I am currently drowning in seeds.
i honestly love gleba, the more i play on it, the more am having fun with it though i also have a very strong and reliable vulcanus base, an okay-ish nauvais and an okay fulgora, so i can just import tons of shit if needed (like rocket fuel, still havent done the process line to get it on gleba 😂)
One aspect not mentioned in the video that I think is very important when it comes to spoilage time: Gleba products come in two varieties - ones that have an hour+ shelf life, and those measured in several minutes. Centralising jelly, mash, nutrient, etc. production almost always ensures lots of spoilage. By processing them locally, in modules that produce high shelf-life products, you significantly reduce spoilage.
I really thought I mentioned that the Fruits last 1h and the other stuff doesn't on my agricultural tip. But maybe that was on another deleted take, I sometimes slip up. Of course you are right with what you say there o/
Also another thing not mentioned that I've seen people say - the heating tower is insanely efficient way to produce energy. If you can build one, it is by far the best energy source.
Definitely have tried to bite off more than I can chew. Just going to build a single section at a time; mashing, nutrients and then onwards from there.
@@Ic0nGaming I've started trying a looped belt of nutrients in one lane and waste spoilage in the other. It's producing science without intervention so it's got legs
So I uhm put spoilage to %10 before knowing much, how do I deal with iron and copper..? Edit: I've got everything from Vulcanus and Fulgora by the way.
Presumably you'd need to scale up the bacteria maturation chambers. It will take 10x longer for them to mature, thus you need about 10x more of them / more room for them to mature in order to produce the same ore output per second.
I wish you'd show the farm, i spend 30min on this planet and i still have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I plant a god damn tree click on it and disappeared lol, i am mad.
Huh, thanks for the notice, I somehow didn't come up with that idea since I explained it on the Gleba Guide before. I'll see what I can cook up in the next weeks o/
My struggle with Gleba is that my farms run empty. I try to have the seeds made from the mash and the jelly sent back to the farms, but it is never enough. My farms run dry. Anyone else struggle with this?
I'd assume too many of the fruits rot on the belt which means you are not processing fast enough. Or there is a fault in your re-transport of the seeds back to the farm. But one of those sound like they could be your issue
@Ic0nGaming must be the fruit spoiling then. I have verified that the seeds get sent back to the agricultural building. I'm even using productivity modules when processing those fruits in an effort to create more seeds. I will have to look at this again when I go back to Gleba to fix things up
Start with a whole Yumako circle first. Don't even touch the Jellyfish till you have atleast 3 full tree farms full of Yumako on auto pilot. Jelly fish should be initiated once you have a constant supply of Nutrients and Yumako Mash. Blueprint for Biopods: 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 Blueprint for Tree Harvester: 0eNqdkt1qg0AQhV+lzPUaotm1ROh9X6GUEFadpEvWXbM/tiH47h01CU0rpRQv1PH4neNxzlDqiK1TJkBxBlVZ46F4PYNXeyP1MDOyQShA7p2qog7RSZ0E+44OegbK1PgBRdpvGKAJKiic3h9vTlsTm5KURcquHB9LH2RQ1gCD1no1XpLPgOFLBic6i7Tv2Q9Ixn4JMwPLFuKCe1yIOeDqBiyjPiTKeHRhnsXvWAxq5bCaFHyGzL+Qdzt0SfWGPsyBxTeww2Mk6XanNEXxg85PTlOx18YZ3BR304vtKTbyYBOPWJPrMUpN8WhurGvovzKobNNKJ4OltPA0DuKwBOmy39Ax803iP23l39tKsxl0fkO30nvVYdI626n6b8UNHsMCqoDNkO620Qy0LJG2GJ6l64jz8CIPVAw96Ki5kSbybM3Xa8H5kq9E3vefZHMC+w==
I did my gleba almost the same way as i did all the other planets. Click-drag a long line of factories, build stuff and be done with it. The only difference with gleba is that you need to do things in loops. The setup in this video has every building as an individual factory and has its own lines, but if you use loops, then you can make long lines of factories. In my setup, i put spoilage and nutrients onto the same belt, which goes around in a loop. Inside the loop are 2-3 factories which turn spoilage back into nutrients. On the outside of the loop, is the main layer of factories which do all the production. At the end of each production line, there is a belt that pulls off all the spoilage and sends it into the loop. I also have a few circuit controllers which regulate how much spoilage and nutrients are on the loop. If there is too much, a burner switches on, if not enough, more is requested. On top of that, there is a secondary nutrient factory inside the loop that uses bioflux to generate nutrients, if there isnt enough spoilage OR nutrients on the belt.
I love that Gleba has so many ways to solve problems. You can overproduce and void, you can do highly efficient circuit controls, you can build a megabase, or you can do the bare minimum. I don't think we've ever had so many (very viable) ways to solve puzzles before, and it's just incredible.
Yeah, after my initial WTF-Phase we all had to go through I really quickly fell in love with this Planet. So many options, so much output out of low amounts of space, it's really lovely.
I only felt like building here was more tedious than on the other two planets I were on.
Also defense is interesting and different! Walls are almost useless.
@@Ic0nGaming
Gleba is the last of my initial four planets, so I arrived and threw down my Big Drills on the Stone deposits and made lots of landfill; That helped a lot.
Landed on Gleba last night, went to sleep at 6am. 😅
Definitely agree with taking it slow and working in small units. Loving it just like all the other planets. Each one has its own fun new challenges
Haha, when I landed on Gleba for the first time it was 2:30 AM. I still made it to bed at 3:30 AM somehow. But I did a late night dive too :D
logistics bots and the trash unrequested feature make gleba super easy if you are not against a bot base
True
You also should know basics of circuit networks
For example my factory starts crafting initial bacteria only if I am low on bacteria and bacteria duplication is stopped
Pentapod eggs are used for agricultural pack only if logistics network has more than 10 eggs
Circuit networks and bots are great solutions, but not mandatory.
Especially the bacteria part is just ... It's not really a problem to let it permanently produce Bacteria, even if the duplicator is running. The input are a few pieces of Jelly/Mash which are endless.
Obviously using circuit networks makes it less wasteful, but Gleba doesn't care about waste at all.
Damn man I it never occur to me "Trash unrequested" could be utilized I had problem with clearing spoilage
Gleba has an easy rocket fuel recipie to allow you to leave if you do the big mistake to land in there.
@@TheKarofaar you still need the structured and blue chips though. or do you import these? How many do you need for a Rocket?
@@sir_duckington1245 I called a sapce amazon yes. Drones did the work. If you make the mistake to go there with no autosupply chain you are fkd and you need to charge another save.
Tip number zero: You gonna get stuck there for a while, longer than fulgoria or vulcanus, so make sure you're nauvis factory is fully completely self sufficient and protected. I keep reloading old save because in 5 hours, my walls started to get eaten and I was not in mood to cover nauvis of roboport to reach the walls
@@Etrehumain123
A tip to past me: Transport the cargo to establish a new Silo on-site, together with the ingredients for rocket parts.
I believe it's mandatory for Aquilo...
My on-Ship factory parked at Aquilo will probably be capable of making Concrete in Space, maybe even up to Blue Chips and LDS if possible.
Edit: No Stone in Space, so no concrete; I believe that one could start Coal Liquefaction in Space, however... A task for another time.
IMO you need to have self-sufficient Nauvis factory even before leaving for the first time.
My first planet to visit is Gleba , i want the spidy robot , i send to Gleba all resources to make one silo rocket
@@TomSmith749 my approach for Gleba is to send blue chips and LDSes there to be able to launch rockets with science. The only things I automated on Gleba is science, bioflux and rocket fuel.
I ran into this same problem and had to do weird jury rigging to upgrade my existing wall depots to let me build new mining areas from them. It turns out you can put roboports in tanks and drive them remotely.
Another thing to note is that efficiency modules reduce nutrients uptake AND spore generation, with just two tier 2 modules by 80%.
For people that really dislike gleba it can be worth it to either save for later or have a supply chain set up to funnel resources from vulcanus or fulgora. if you start to run low on supplies here progression will slow to an absolute CRAWL. I abused the hell out of beacons with speed 2 upgrades here, it allowed me to chew through all the resources I got from farming with producing as little waste as possible. I tried to NEVER have my system back up.
Yeah, strong agree on that one. I did go for a start with only Construction Drones as Import (cause seriously I can't live w/o) and tried out how to do it without any starting resources.
It's slow, yes. But mostly cause I didn't know what the hell I was doing :D
But due to the fact that the things you HAVE to do on Gleba are relatively simple and short recipe chains, modules (like you say) really do have a huge impact. Importing beacons is helluva smart idea.
Thank you for the second tip, not to stress. I was stressing about wasting my jellies and etc...
I'm glad i got the GLEBA guide from the Dr.House himself!
So many people hate this planet, but ive spent many hours trying to squeeze output out of my factory on Gleba, and ive enjoyed it once i got things sufficiently spun up.
The fact that the fruits spoil far slower than their processed counterparts means that i can process them at my leisure, but i need to spend more time iterating on my designs.
Using the Gleba Biolab with its Productivity modifier is a must for processing Jelly and Mash, IMO. Real game-changer when i got some Rare and Moduled machines pushing the product.
If you don't care about things spoiling you will have a much happier time. That was definitely a great tip.
Setting up a lubricant factory with controlled nutrient production was a pita. If you supply endless nutrients and just deal with the spoilage it's 10 times less painful....but "you created waste and that is bad so don't do it" :D
my launch list consists of circuits, steel, one rocket silo worth of supplies at minimu plus extra motors, all the PPs and ports to set up a logistics bot network, with one stack of every chest type, and the supplies to set up a mall. I always make my spaceship able to launch down iron so I can use it to help me get set up early
man thx for this gleba broke my mind so ive been taking a break from factorio for like 2 weeks i usually try to figure it out my self. i dont hate gleba i love the idea of the spoilage mechanic in a game like factorio. but man have a self sufficient base and space platform incase you want to get off of it( learn that the hard way after i visited vulcanus) also the idea of using rocket full as a normal full source would have never crossed my mind will definitely be using rocket full for power now.
Active provider chests make life so much easier. Just slap them in and have bots carry your spoilage away.
You can deal with oversupply by providing inputs as loops -- you run the belt by your inserters consuming it, and then send the excess back to the bus.
Burning spoilage is so smart. I can't believe I didn't think about it
There is an argument to be made to position your primary labs on Gleba since the sci packs have a shelf life and give you less research per pack as they degrade. And even with just 4 Bioplants plugging away is enough to feed over 20 modded labs with no downtime.
I get my science to Nauvis more than 50% fresh so they go into the biolabs and net more than if I were to put them in on Gleba.
But the science on gleba is free anyway, just make 2x the amount. plus using the special labs makes it so that doing science anywhere but nauvis is just a waste
That actually works well as rocket fuel takes up the most storage space so it's easier to supply a rapid rocket network from Gleba(Which is also a good hub on the space map).
My relationship with Gleba is so complicated. First I hated it, then I hated it even more, now I'm producing a couple of belts of iron and copper without clogging / manually restarting and it's not all bad anymore. Infinite resources are very attractive.
It was uncomfortable for me because it made me feel like I'm on a timer all the time, when turns out, not really.
Yeah Gleba is a weird one. I still kinda dislike the place for all it's extra tediousness it implores due to fuel+waste management.
But yeah, endless resources on the other hand ^^
02:14 I disagree. If you start tapping into the fruit reserves with a non-functional base you will spoil all the fruits in transit or while fixing it and you will lose the seeds. Trees cannot be multiplied. One tree gives you on average one seed. It is probability based to it may vary of course, but at the end of the day the math says it should perfectly balance out. If you handle fruits incirrectly you will lose a lot of seeds and will have to explore further to get back more fruits to replenish your seeds.
Mashing with biochambers actually gives 1.5 seeds per tree because of the productivity bonus, even more with modules. I am currently drowning in seeds.
I built something that never ends with no sewage. It’s just an endless loop. A lot simpler than what you ha e
Loved the video, thanks for making it
i honestly love gleba, the more i play on it, the more am having fun with it
though i also have a very strong and reliable vulcanus base, an okay-ish nauvais and an okay fulgora, so i can just import tons of shit if needed (like rocket fuel, still havent done the process line to get it on gleba 😂)
Gleba was a right pain in the ass. Bots saved my sanity compared to ful and Vulc which imho were much much easier.
Great tips, thank you
My tip is using bots for everything. And I ship in everything for the rocket from nauvis. Im just making science.
One aspect not mentioned in the video that I think is very important when it comes to spoilage time: Gleba products come in two varieties - ones that have an hour+ shelf life, and those measured in several minutes. Centralising jelly, mash, nutrient, etc. production almost always ensures lots of spoilage. By processing them locally, in modules that produce high shelf-life products, you significantly reduce spoilage.
I really thought I mentioned that the Fruits last 1h and the other stuff doesn't on my agricultural tip. But maybe that was on another deleted take, I sometimes slip up.
Of course you are right with what you say there o/
Also another thing not mentioned that I've seen people say - the heating tower is insanely efficient way to produce energy. If you can build one, it is by far the best energy source.
Yes, they are really obscenely good. Especially since Rocket Fuel is so abundant, you can easily produce all the power you'd like.
I still hate Gleba
Hello,could you share the blueprint for this factory?
After a day of blueprinting I just put everything between 4 belts and let the excess burn.
Yes, letting things burn you don't need is very much the Gleba way of life o/
Definitely have tried to bite off more than I can chew. Just going to build a single section at a time; mashing, nutrients and then onwards from there.
That's exactly how I learned to tackle the beast. There's just so many different inputs & outputs, it takes a while to get used to it
@@Ic0nGaming I've started trying a looped belt of nutrients in one lane and waste spoilage in the other. It's producing science without intervention so it's got legs
Ok the amount of iron you can get with the bacteria is hilarious
cant technically your seeds run out? if you process the fruits too slow?
Yes-ish. You could just wander off to find some new fruit someplace else on the planet to re-start your seedbank
@Ic0nGaming alright good, because I'm too scared to start my factory up because I'm afraid the seeds will run out
@@sir_duckington1245I do not think there will be a problem. I've overstocked on seeds. On a 3 factory system.
So I uhm put spoilage to %10 before knowing much, how do I deal with iron and copper..?
Edit: I've got everything from Vulcanus and Fulgora by the way.
Presumably you'd need to scale up the bacteria maturation chambers.
It will take 10x longer for them to mature, thus you need about 10x more of them / more room for them to mature in order to produce the same ore output per second.
I wish you'd show the farm, i spend 30min on this planet and i still have no idea what I'm supposed to do. I plant a god damn tree click on it and disappeared lol, i am mad.
Huh, thanks for the notice, I somehow didn't come up with that idea since I explained it on the Gleba Guide before. I'll see what I can cook up in the next weeks o/
My struggle with Gleba is that my farms run empty. I try to have the seeds made from the mash and the jelly sent back to the farms, but it is never enough. My farms run dry. Anyone else struggle with this?
I'd assume too many of the fruits rot on the belt which means you are not processing fast enough.
Or there is a fault in your re-transport of the seeds back to the farm. But one of those sound like they could be your issue
@Ic0nGaming must be the fruit spoiling then. I have verified that the seeds get sent back to the agricultural building. I'm even using productivity modules when processing those fruits in an effort to create more seeds. I will have to look at this again when I go back to Gleba to fix things up
The fix is Production mods in your mashers. Will fix everything.
Start with a whole Yumako circle first. Don't even touch the Jellyfish till you have atleast 3 full tree farms full of Yumako on auto pilot. Jelly fish should be initiated once you have a constant supply of Nutrients and Yumako Mash.
Blueprint for Biopods:
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Blueprint for Tree Harvester:
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Gleba sucks
Skill issue
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