Thanks for the video on this adapter. I find that as long as you can keep the cut out on the gas can upwards they work fine laying flat. This is due to the cans internal pick up tube being below the cut out so then stopping the liquid gas effect which you had. If you look at the single burner camping stove which they are mostly used in the can is fitted flat and I also have a two legged adapter which uses the non split stove on and the can lays flat with that. On both types of mentioned stove the gas cans cut out is uppermost. There are you tube videos showing the gas can cut up and the internal pick up tube in action. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ian
I’ve upgraded to an adapter with orientation legs. It keeps the pick up tube in the gas as opposed to the liquid butane. Really important when the can is full, but as the liquid level drops the fill tube is more often out of the liquid. I’ve also used some stainless steel pipe clamps to keep the gas canister oriented in the upright position, but the new adapter with legs is the way to go. ua-cam.com/video/gyPKi2tOQS0/v-deo.htmlsi=YFSYTjpXc43aG6bY
Or, if you don’t travel to really cold places. I have one of these adapters for the gas Trangia burner. (-27 setup. Need to get a few more parts to have a complete set.)
When I have encountered this specific problem in the field, I have simply used my hand-trowel to dig a small hole to hold the butane canister. It keeps the can in an upright position and positions it so that the gas hose is within the proper distance. Also, I don't have to bring along an extra bit of kit.
There are also adapters that can turn a non-remote stove into a remote stove. They have a hose leading to a base that a pocket rocket type stove can screw into to hold it upright.
Put it in the can in same orientating as it is in the right stove. there is a pick up pipe inside, and that pipe has to be facing up, so it only gets gas not liquid gas.
The gas cannisters work fine laying on their side. You aren't orienting them properly. The notch goes upward. Here in Japan they sell several stoves that are designed to have the gas cannister lay on its side. I have one and it works great.
G Works make an adapter that has a stand that keep the gas cartridge orientated the correct way so the small tube inside is at the top so one is burning gas not liquid fuel.
Today I bought one of the big fat canisters you showed in the beginning. I tried attaching my Optimus Crux, but no gas comes out. It's almost like it can't reach far enough to puncture the thing. Am I doing something wrong or did I buy the wrong thing?
Finnaly i found it im not going to use it in a stove instead imgoing to ue it to fill Butane also known in HVAC as R-600 refrigerant eevrybody calls it freon but its much expensive to buy a tank of it instead im going to use regular butane
Yes, I have a Halfords type as well and it works excellently in that. See Ian’s comment below. He may be on to something. I’m going to try his suggestion.
I bought a Coleman c500 canister and didn't realise it wouldn't fit my Campingaz Twister Plus PZ Stove Single Burner. Do you know of an adapter too make this work please? Cheers.
I’ve only just got into using gas, but reading about it before I purchased a Trangia burner, I was lead to believe, when using the cylinder upright, you are using the vapour. When the cylinder is on its side, you are using the pressurised liquid. With the trangia burner you showed, that u shaped tube that is in the flame, allows that liquid to vaporise before exiting and being burnt, allowing you to use the canister on its side. With burners that don’t have that u tube in the flame, you have to have the canister upright. At least, that was what I understood to be the case.
Hi Mat, my understanding is that the U shaped tube is a preheater that helps out in cold weather. Generally liquid fuel (petrol/white gas stoves) are used on their side. I’m not overly sure of the technicalities but will do a little research.
@@InfoZhedExplore It is a pre-heater, but Trangia burners, the gas ones, are for butane, not white fuel or petrol, etc. What I meant was, the fuel in the canisters is liquid under pressure, when it is on its side, the liquid flows through the system to the burner, where it is preheated and vaporises. When the canister is standing, you are taking the fuel in gas form off the top.
Is it dangerous to use a burner without a tube . Just screw on top of bottle !? Dont worry about bottle dropping can fix that but i mean is the burner with no stove that u attach dangerous by itself to the bottle
If you are referring to putting the adapter on a gas can then a gas burner on top then a pot on top it is a really bad idea. Tried it myself so you do not have to. The connections are too weak
It will work on the Vango Compact Gas Stove or pocket Rocket style but it is really not advisable. As soon as you put a cup or pot on top with liquid in it this may become too heavy as the adapter is a weak spot. If you knock the pot or it becomes unstable the joint wobbles and it will either fail or release gas and could potentially cause a flare up. I only use the adapter on remote stoves. Hope that helps you.
Be careful with those adapters! They are all made in china, they dont carry any form of safety compliance markings or any specs. I have several and one the top is loose, one is ok the other it can pop off the gas cannister with great ease.
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The canister can be laid on the side provided the slot is facing upwards. They were designed this way to be used on those hotpot stoves.
You are just right, all one has to do is to tear open an empty can to see how it works !
@@pierrebegin9253 Not everyone is technical and can tear open the can. We live in the era of Wokeist numb nuts !
@@etow8034 No only young foolish children can if their mother dont catch them before !
@@pierrebegin9253 No they will the smartest children unlike the wimps and sussies the current generation is turning out !
What do you mean by "slot" - which part exactly is it?
Thanks for the video on this adapter. I find that as long as you can keep the cut out on the gas can upwards they work fine laying flat. This is due to the cans internal pick up tube being below the cut out so then stopping the liquid gas effect which you had. If you look at the single burner camping stove which they are mostly used in the can is fitted flat and I also have a two legged adapter which uses the non split stove on and the can lays flat with that. On both types of mentioned stove the gas cans cut out is uppermost. There are you tube videos showing the gas can cut up and the internal pick up tube in action. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ian
Thanks for the info Ian. I had no idea about that but will check it out. 👍
I’ve upgraded to an adapter with orientation legs. It keeps the pick up tube in the gas as opposed to the liquid butane. Really important when the can is full, but as the liquid level drops the fill tube is more often out of the liquid.
I’ve also used some stainless steel pipe clamps to keep the gas canister oriented in the upright position, but the new adapter with legs is the way to go.
ua-cam.com/video/gyPKi2tOQS0/v-deo.htmlsi=YFSYTjpXc43aG6bY
Thank you for the information. Much appreciated. @@ronkierstead
Best used in 40 deg F and above butane vaporizes in the mid 30's, so great idea for summer
Or, if you don’t travel to really cold places.
I have one of these adapters for the gas Trangia burner. (-27 setup. Need to get a few more parts to have a complete set.)
When I have encountered this specific problem in the field, I have simply used my hand-trowel to dig a small hole to hold the butane canister. It keeps the can in an upright position and positions it so that the gas hose is within the proper distance. Also, I don't have to bring along an extra bit of kit.
I've been using this kind of adapter for years, never had a problems with it!!!
There are also adapters that can turn a non-remote stove into a remote stove. They have a hose leading to a base that a pocket rocket type stove can screw into to hold it upright.
Thanks for sharing. I have seen them as well but not tried one as yet 👍
Put it in the can in same orientating as it is in the right stove. there is a pick up pipe inside, and that pipe has to be facing up, so it only gets gas not liquid gas.
The gas cannisters work fine laying on their side. You aren't orienting them properly. The notch goes upward. Here in Japan they sell several stoves that are designed to have the gas cannister lay on its side. I have one and it works great.
I have now worked that out. Thank you for the input.
G Works make an adapter that has a stand that keep the gas cartridge orientated the correct way so the small tube inside is at the top so one is burning gas not liquid fuel.
Can anyone confirm it will fit EN417 fitting used for weed burner? Thanks
Today I bought one of the big fat canisters you showed in the beginning. I tried attaching my Optimus Crux, but no gas comes out. It's almost like it can't reach far enough to puncture the thing. Am I doing something wrong or did I buy the wrong thing?
Does not sound good. Have no idea what you have done so cannot help.
@@InfoZhedExplore awh okay, well thank you. Both are brand new, never used before.
Finnaly i found it im not going to use it in a stove instead imgoing to ue it to fill Butane also known in HVAC as R-600 refrigerant eevrybody calls it freon but its much expensive to buy a tank of it instead im going to use regular butane
That type of gas is used in the Coleman and Halfords type camping stove and also some of the buddy heaters, the gas works on its side 🤔
Good video.
Yes, I have a Halfords type as well and it works excellently in that. See Ian’s comment below. He may be on to something. I’m going to try his suggestion.
@@InfoZhedExplore oh rite excellent stuff, never knew that they had a tube on the inside 👍👌
Is there a adapter for a bianette style canister?
the adapter 00:03 keeps leaking gas when used, is there a way to fix that?
If you are referring to when it is attached and detached then no not to my knowledge. Thanks for the question 👍
@@InfoZhedExplore apparently the gastank head was damaged, it worked just fine after buying new gastank. thanks though
Could you use this adaptor with a weed burner?
Not sure so cannot comment on that.
I bought a Coleman c500 canister and didn't realise it wouldn't fit my Campingaz Twister Plus PZ Stove Single Burner. Do you know of an adapter too make this work please? Cheers.
No, cannot help with that. Good luck with your search
Jeebel Camp valve cartridge adapter for Campingaz CV connection cartridges with screw thread, can be found on Amazon. Price £23.99
I’ve only just got into using gas, but reading about it before I purchased a Trangia burner, I was lead to believe, when using the cylinder upright, you are using the vapour. When the cylinder is on its side, you are using the pressurised liquid. With the trangia burner you showed, that u shaped tube that is in the flame, allows that liquid to vaporise before exiting and being burnt, allowing you to use the canister on its side. With burners that don’t have that u tube in the flame, you have to have the canister upright. At least, that was what I understood to be the case.
Hi Mat, my understanding is that the U shaped tube is a preheater that helps out in cold weather. Generally liquid fuel (petrol/white gas stoves) are used on their side. I’m not overly sure of the technicalities but will do a little research.
@@InfoZhedExplore It is a pre-heater, but Trangia burners, the gas ones, are for butane, not white fuel or petrol, etc. What I meant was, the fuel in the canisters is liquid under pressure, when it is on its side, the liquid flows through the system to the burner, where it is preheated and vaporises. When the canister is standing, you are taking the fuel in gas form off the top.
Got it
Suppose you could dig a hole for the canister in the soil
There should be an arrow on the can to show how you can lay it on the side.
Do you happen to know an online store that sells it?
Hi, eBay and Amazon. Research carefully to get the best price. Some sellers over price them. Hope that helps you 👍
@@InfoZhedExplore Cheers.
Put a longer gas pipe hose on.
Always have one of these.
That must be why I was only able to use my butane can on one cook.
Helpful 🎉
Is it dangerous to use a burner without a tube . Just screw on top of bottle !?
Dont worry about bottle dropping can fix that but i mean is the burner with no stove that u attach dangerous by itself to the bottle
If you are referring to putting the adapter on a gas can then a gas burner on top then a pot on top it is a really bad idea. Tried it myself so you do not have to. The connections are too weak
@@InfoZhedExplore no i mean smth like this : Vango Compact Gas Stove
It will work on the Vango Compact Gas Stove or pocket Rocket style but it is really not advisable. As soon as you put a cup or pot on top with liquid in it this may become too heavy as the adapter is a weak spot. If you knock the pot or it becomes unstable the joint wobbles and it will either fail or release gas and could potentially cause a flare up. I only use the adapter on remote stoves. Hope that helps you.
@@InfoZhedExplore yep thanks
Be careful with those adapters! They are all made in china, they dont carry any form of safety compliance markings or any specs. I have several and one the top is loose, one is ok the other it can pop off the gas cannister with great ease.