whenever you say "innocent women and children" my heart hurts remembering a time when I was taught to react to this with "no one is innocent, we are all filthy and unworthy, we deserve only the fires of hell forever". It always bothered me, and I am ashamed to think that it took 35 years to say "enough".
You have obviously never known the love of God that is in Christ Jesus the Lord. Those who dwell on the fear of Hell and The Lake of Fire have a distorted view of salvation. Jesus is not a fire escape but a life giver. He came to set the sinner free from their enslavement to sin. He came to make us Holy and Christ like in every area of life.
The question is innocent compared to who? If the comparisons is towards other humans, then you would have a valid argument, but that is not the comparison. The comparison is to God, and we are not innocent before God, no one is. Yeah it is hard to accept the Biblical fact that the human heart is evil and wicked. Everyone wants to believe that they are good, but we are not. How you feel is not relevant to who we actually are. You wanting to feel better about yourself is just you lying to yourself that you are a good person, but if you would actually sit down and be honest you are not. We are all selfish we put ourselves first, we chase after material wealth and pleasures of the body, we lie, we cheat, we steal, we hate others, we get angry when things do not go our way. Yes this makes you a bad person, and comparing yourself to other people who you would say, well at least I have never killed anyone, my response would be, not yet, but you have most likely thought about it. And what is there to stop you from killing someone. People have been able to morally justify just about anything. There can be no change until you admit that you need to change. The alcoholic, the drug addict, the porn addict doesn't see the harm they are doing to themselves and will never change until someone confronts them with the truth. Sin is no different.
@@darinbracy8433 thanks for writing such a huge paragraph to tell me I'm a bad person. Specially "in comparison to your god" who does all the awful things he does in the bible, like multiple genocides, setting laws for beating slaves, ordering a rapist to pay the father and marry the victim, killing two people on the spot for lying about money and burning people in hell for being the way he made them. And please, don't bother with explanations, I was an evangelical christian for 35 years, I know all of it like the palm of my hand.
I wonder how many people, when they thought _"I feel God made me for a purpose, I feel like God designed me for something bigger than myself",_ concluded that this purpose was simply to die a horrible death for the glory of others? If God does indeed have a plan, why do people assume they aren't just mere pawns?
right?! most of human history suggests, that if he is real and has a plan, its terrible for the vast majority. But everything thinks they are the next moses, paul etc.
I've been saying since Covid that there is significant evidence that there is indeed a Spiritual War going on. Why else are children being told that they can change their biological gender if they were born male they can become female and vice verse or they can become Gender Fluid and go back and forth between the genders or they can become Gender Non-Binary and not be a Gender Children are literally being coerced by their teachers, school counselors their psychologists and Dr's to remove their genitalia WHY FOR WHAT PURPOSE? If we are in a Spiritual WarFare than GOD IS 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR IT HE IS NOT GOOD AND WHY ARE CHRISTIANS TASKED WITH FIGHTING IT WHEN GOD IS ALL POWERFUL
Well, it's something that i see in almost ALL religions. I never saw a religion that you're 100% mistreated as a bug and the book says for the entire time that you're sick, yada yada. One thing that i think that attract religious people it's, how probably a lot noticed, is the """""purpose"""""" (even the Bible, despite his countless flaws, presents good stuff to who die in the faith). This is was i saw many Christians saying that they had depression, then God supposedly spoke in his ears and they converted. Almost all the religions promises something good: Heaven, Nirvana, Reincarnate in a better state, drink and battle in Valhalla, etc... Religious want to feel with a purpose bc themselves couldn't find/made one, this is why they convert to religion. Along with the Pleasures, have the coercion. Abrahamic religions (and some others) have a Hell/Sheol/Islam Hell (idk the name). It's search for purpose, desire and fear. That's what make people become religious. What could be better to them than thought you was designed in the image of the creator/king? Also, this is why religious avoid incoherences or bad stuff that their God/gods do. Anyway, this is a rant, if any of you have something to correct me or add another reason, I'm ready to read it
@@MindShift-Brandon I agree, I also want to point out that Moses and Paul, while influential, also had a pretty terrible life filled with lots of suffering (if Moses even existed)
It reminds me of a short story I read many years ago. The guy is convinced he's the center of the universe and everything happens for him. If the light's green, it's because he's important. If he misses the elevator, it's because someone in *that* car farted. All goes well until a truck runs a red light and kills him, because otherwise it would have hit the woman backing out of her drive that is *actually* the reason for the universe.
@@n.c.1201Yes, it was a catholic priest so their response was (paraphrasing) that "god understood that not all people can read, especially children, and learn in different ways so the holy spirit guides the (catholic) church clergy on how to disseminate god's word to individuals and groups widely varying people." Not a wholly unreasonable response but then we discussed that this is supposedly god here and the problems of god playing favorites, using flawed and fallible humans as middlemen and gatekeepers. My contention was that god could avoid a whole host of problems and be more successful if god just communicated with each human directly and cut out the go-betweens. He acknowledged these are frustrating issues and the conversation basically ended with catholicisms go to excuse of that "it's a mystery of faith."
@@dougt7580I have interviewed 7 different Catholics priests plus a monsignor. Not only they have became entangled in their own arguments to the point the cannot explain themselves, but many times they have refuted and contradicted each other. I have recorded everything. Just for fun I have thought of going to the local bishop so he can hear them. It would be gold to see his reaction. The whole ," mystery of faith" thing is the most stupid conversation ending cliche ever. And Catholics use it as a way to deflect and try to avoid a heated argumentation from the opposite side.
@@kevinnazario1015That mirrors my experience, having been raised in a Catholic bubble and having had candid conversations with several priests on my way out. I started to notice in religion class in catholic high school that "mystery of faith" got trotted out an AWFUL lot, and it sounded like a cheap excuse even then. That would be hilarious to show those to the bishop, because obviously he'd have to decide which of his underling's is teaching heresy on his watch. Although I'm sure it'd just get swept under the rug like they do with everything else.
@@dougt7580 I am glad he was a catholic saying that because it falls in line with their history of only clergy having bibles. The baptists I was with for a few years have no excuse... they really hated the catholics and I was raised catholic and felt the baptists over exaggerated and under appreciated the catholics in certain points. that's when I became one with reality: they will all claim they are right. It was the beginning of my end and it didn't take long. Good points on your end. Some things are a mystery... but the text shouldn't be if it is perfect :-)
The thing about Judas was something I even thought back when I was a believer. Like: "Yeah, he sold Jesus out. But wasn't that necessary for the sacrifice to happen? Why should he get shit for that when what he did was actually necessary for everyone to be safed? What else was supposed to happen?"
The problem is that nobody is supposed to do it because God doesn't want innocent people betrayed, but also somebody has to do it because God wants Jesus specifically betrayed. So it's a situation where, apparently, everyone doing the right thing would've resulted in no salvation for anyone. Meaning the best outcome was for somebody to "take one for the team," but it just seems like bad moral luck that it happened to be Judas. Or worse, it was like, deliberate sabotage on Jesus's part: If, hypothetically, Jesus knew when he called each of his disciples whether they would betray him to the authorities under specific circumstances at specific times (and for Christians who think he was God, he has to have known that to at least some extent), and he picked eleven guys who wouldn't do that and one guy who would, then Judas was basically singled out to do the bad thing. If keeping Judas from sinning is somehow moral, then it was wrong of Jesus to call him as a disciple; after all, had he not done so, Judas would never have betrayed him, since he wouldn't have had any opportunity to.
judas and everybody else, every event in that story is irrelevant in the end. For no sacrifice happened there, even if the st0ry is completely true. and yes, when the christians insist that a sacrifice did happen, they really should love judas for it. either way, it makes exactly 0 sense
I get sick thinking about how children are manipulated.... everywhere... all over the world... for any and every reason...Sometimes they live long enough to tell their story and hope for change.
@@theol64 That's a great question. I was actually thinking a lot about child soldiers and any other child who are put into dangerous positions because they are taught an Us Vs. Them situation. But honestly, all kids are moulded... manipulated.. just for different purposes. Some good, some bad. Sorry I was not very clear in my thoughts
It's great you added the bible text. It's not vague like "killed everyone" or simply "burned it to the ground". No! It says men and women, young and old. When apologists say it's a fort to try whitewash the OT they are lying!
@rizdekd3912 what's even more bizarre to me is that these stories are fables and myths, not actual history. They want them to be real but end up having to make excuses for the horrible way they depict God from a modern-day point of view..
As a young child I questioned and was confused at the stories of Abraham's willingness to murder Issac, God allowing Job to lose everything including his children and Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at her home being destroyed. The moral of the story the adults taught was always FAITH. I gave up questioning and accepted the bullshit. I wish I had had more faith in that child I was. So grateful you help bring back the common sense that Bible storytelling and manipulation convinced so many into giving up.
What baffles me is how God promises lands already occupied by others. He owns everything, why can't he just give them another land? Raise a whole island, a planet, a universe for his people? And whose people are the rest? Is he disowning them? My ancestors are not from Israel, does that mean I'm not part of all this?
The Bible only makes any sense if it was written by barely civilized people in an extremely tribal culture. The minute I let myself consider that as an actual possibility was the minute I stopped being Christian. If their "perfect loving God with perfect morality" had any hand in it whatsoever as part of his "perfect plan", he would have to be inept AF and in serious need of getting his priorities straight.
Can we discuss the factoid that Joshua dispatched the spies after his diety had declared him indestructible? Go to Joshua 1:5 to truly apprehend the context of my statement ❤ El Shaddai could have completely excluded the part pertaining towards the spying 🕵️♀️
Sometimes I like to believe there is a really amazing being out there who has no book, no religion, nothing like that- but just loves us and looks on us with kindness. No interference. Just love. Just a thought. I will never ascribe to this religion or any other for the rest of my existence.
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
People used to ask me what the first thing I wanted to do in heaven was. My answer, consistently, was to talk rlto Judas. Most people thought I was joking, but I wasn't....
@lyndacordova6212 Would you inquire as to his underlying motivation? (i.e. Did he know that Jesus had to die all along, therefore, he was simplisticly speeding up the process)
Ironic how everything is Gods will... until its CANCER then all of a sudden "G0d hAs n0tHInG tO Do wIth gIVinG pE0pLe cAncEr" ... and again when the person is in remission then magically it's Gods will 😂
One common question asked about Biblical passages is "what does this mean to you?" The question needs to be "what does it mean to those at that time?" So learning the Bible means not just the scripture but learning the culture(s) during that time period.
I actually made that Judas-comment while still in the church. I asked why everybody see him as the bad guy, he just did what God wanted him to do? I was not popular, to say the least. I said it to see what reaction I would get, and I got the reaction I expected to get.
Mindshift, you do a brilliant job of pointing out the contradicts and providing much food for thought! The recent videos, particularly the "betterment of God" one, have been my questions and thoughts, but coming from you. Excellent work! Keep it up! ✌️😎
😅 You NAILED IT, yet again, Brandon. Seriously man if I could give more I would. Your content and commentary on all the subjects mind blowing! 🤯 🎉Superb job ! Honestly when you went into ‘Christian preaching mode’ 😂😂❤❤❤😮😮 I nearly was caught back into my church attending days!! Keep going you are a valuable member and second to non with your extensive skills in this field!!
This was on that next level sh...t!!!! the breakdown of the stories, the analysis of the concepts, and then putting it all together in this easy to understand video! You were in the "zone" on this one! Michael Jordan-esque!!!
Absolutely loved the way this video was done. I like how you 'preached' about judas being a good guy, the ultimate bad guy for God. Made me think you reconverted for a second. Having a lesson broken down and explained why it was wrong was really helpful. Thank you!
- wise shaman, do you see this huge and sharp bone? How do you expect me to stab this into a fellow boy-man? - Well, those boy-men worship false spirits, you know... - HOW DARE THEY!!!
crazy how fear is never allowed to just be fear, like this story or the commands to fear god. they have to make it something else like faith or respect. it's almost like they know acknowledging that it is fear just makes their god look bad
No. You have not understood what the fear of the Lord is. "“The fear of the LORD is the BEGINNING OF WISDOM, And the KNOWLEDGE of the Holy One is UNDERSTANDING." (Proverbs 9:10) And, "In mercy and truth Atonement is provided for iniquity; And by the fear of the LORD one departs from evil." (Proverbs 16:6)
@christophergibson7155 That still doesn't make any sense. And throwing scripture at atheists doesn't help advance the conversation. You basically did an elaborate way of saying "Nuh uh"
@@christophergibson7155 " And your opinion does not make the truth of the Word of God of non effect." This is true. The Bible is not effective regardless of opinion.
I've thought that way about Judas a lot! To bear the burden of Most Hated, Betrayer, must have been so hard. Certainly it was too difficult for him to handle. I've used it myself in writing as what being a chosen one might mean besides being the hero. He deserved better, as a character.
Dude, that “sermon” on Judas was brilliant! Especially when you twisted out that application step of making it about spending time with Jesus. Beautiful…and🤮 😂
This was one of of my biggest contention points when deconstructing. When I was Christian, I never understood why Judas was considered a villain. Jesus stayed up all night to the point of passing out and sweating blood praying not to die and eventually came to terms with the fact that he had to in order to fulfill this divine plan, and then TOLD his followers that it would be one of them that would turn him over to the Romans. He Then TOLD Judas to go do what he had to do. It seems really clear that in that story, Judas is doing his part to complete the biblical salvation plan under Jesus’ instruction. Bypassing all moral problems with that, Jesus clearly knew the plan and, and Christians say, was a willing sacrifice. For whatever reason turning himself in wouldn’t work right for the cosmic drama or presumably he would have done so. Without Judas, no one gets to heaven. Now I can’t defend that any of that is true or right because I don’t think it is, but 100% in the story as written and accepted by Christians, Judas was a hero in that story and Jesus was in on it.
Those of us who grew up Christian and have left accept that we were controlled by false authority. It makes you rethink everything that you were programmed into believing. You have an amazing way of slicing through the nonsense. I swear it's a gift and I sure appreciate everything you do!
I can understand that you completely missed the life Jesus has for YOU. "we were controlled by false authority." Perhaps you were in some church setting. But to know the true authority is life and life more abundant. "“All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth." (words of Jesus in Matthew 28:18)
@@christophergibson7155it's regurgitated fables and mythology. The fact that you hang out on Brandon's videos and are constantly commenting makes me think you're trying convince yourself.
@@christophergibson7155 And what form does this life more abundant, take? And how did that express itself... from 900 AD to 1800 AD, exactly? In often highly, highly divided, Christendom.
Just like the true message of the temptation narrative in Genesis: An apple a day keeps the Yahweh away. Such wisdom. I have been eating apples every day for years and this deity is nowhere to be seen so I think it is working.
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
@@BenjaminEaster-b8b Yep, if he loved us all equally he wouldn’t have revealed himself to only one small people group for thousands of years and then send his son to a tiny speck on the world map and take hundreds of years, in same cases over a thousand years, for his message of salvation for reach everyone. Seems as though his chosen people got the wide road and the rest of humanity got the narrow road or no road at all.
@@darinbracy8433 It doesn’t but lots of Christians show the fruit as an apple. The serpent is also never said to be the devil but lots of Christian say it is. Christians love to color outside the lines.
Thank you again and again, for standing up for the voiceless and slaughtered. For respecting the relentless and pointless destruction enough to bring a constant spotlight to it all. I appreciate your work. So much.
The Bible truly is a “make your own adventure” book. You can literally make it say whatever you need it to in order to promote whatever message/agenda you have. The fact that Christendom allows the liberty for people to do this contextless extraction is the main reason we have so many different Christian sects and ideologies despite everyone supposing to be one under the same Holy Spirit. It’s just like you said in this video. It’s a good tool for control. Also, I knew this video would hit home for you given your issue with the rahab story pre-deconversion that you shared in your deconversion story lol. Religion is hard for people that are more logically inclined that cannot shut off the reasoning parts of their brains. I know that first hand
That's a funny analogy. For me, Christianity is the fandom with the most controversial and differents interpretations of a SINGLE collection of 66 (for protestants) books. Wait, hmmm... 66? Isn't 6 the number of the man (according with some Christian numerology ?)
" You can literally make it say whatever you need it to in order to promote whatever message/agenda you have." Spoken from a sinner who does not have the Spirit of God. It is in your made up mind that you conceive such a notion. Yet the Word of God tells us the true reason..."But the natural (soulish) man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned... (void of the Spirit)" (1 Corinthians 2:14)
@@christophergibson7155 look... or i didn't take the point or your comment don't say nothing about the different interpretations of Christianity and some passages. (that was JDrocks was trying to explain). You at least read what he said after it, about the liberty for people to do this contextless extraction? Because, as i noticed with another denominations, is that they can also cherry-pick verses to satisfy their doctrines. But, if you're saying that another denominations are created bc they don't have God's soul and discernment, who can confirms what is the true denomination? Also, is a bit obvious why we consider foolishness. And i can assure that don't have anything with the soul (because you first need to prove with evidences that a soul exists and is not the same thing as Mind/conscience). Edit: if I missed your point, correct me.
@@christophergibson7155 “the book is true and I’m going to prove it to you by quoting from the book” that’s circular reasoning. Proves absolutely nothing in reality. Do you disagree that people use and have used the Bible/christianity for whatever agenda they wanted? Attributing whatever meaning they want from it? Or would you rather disingenuously attack me instead of my statement?
This might be your best video yet! I just had a conversation with someone I know about this very thing! I told them that according to their logic, Judas is actually a HERO! Spot on, brother!
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
How about about you venture to Nonstampcollector, then view his video regarding biblical contradictions? 😂 It is equivalently hilarious and telling, profoundly telling ❤
@@BenjaminEaster-b8bhis video about Jephthah sacrificing his daughter is powerful. He can be quite funny, but that one, accompanied by Stravinsky’s Firebird Suite, is chilling to me
Lucifer? Placing an off limits tree within arm's reach of Adam and Eve, whom are totally ignorant at this point? The global flood, which he felt bad about afterwards? Naaah sounds like a perfect track record.
A very nice summary of the Gospel of Judas. If that branch of Christianity had survived, we would frown upon the atonement story as unworthy of a Supreme Being.
It’s all about fear. Fear of not knowing what happens after dying. Fear of a ruthless war god that demands fear, adoration and love(?) with threat of eternal torture. I’m certain if an alternate path to heaven was offered, not involving Yahweh, few people would continue validating this monster or subject themselves to these insufferable church services.
Thanks Brandon. When you started to tell that story about Judas in the way you explained it, I did start feeling sick and I almost fast forwarded but I figured you were heading somewhere important so I listened. It sure did "bring the message home".
Finally someone who also had thought the Conquering of the promissed land didn't really need to happen when a God all Powerful can do anything and does not need to kill anyone to get there. Also, Judas (Althought, I believe if it Wasn't Judas, it would be anyone else) was the injust one here since he was created for that sole purpose where he didn't have any choice and now he is being tortured by God for eternity by...Making God's will? what?
I recently found that the origin of reverences is "to hold in awe or fear". Interesting, isn't it? This lovely thing we're supposed to feel for god is fear.
Well said. I also had my doubts about all these children's songs, even when I was a Christian. I wondered, why would we joyfully sing about the deaths of ancient civilians who, according to the Bible, perished at the fall of Jericho? There is also a song about David and Goliath, and although Goliath was mocking the name of God, why would Christians celebrate the death of a heathen and turn it into a song for children? How does that fit within the later teachings of Christianity? The idea is simply disgusting and shows hate, rather than love. You made a good point about Rahab and Judas. Christians can't see this because they are blinded by the idea that the Bible is holy and its characters (characters who receive God's favor) are all holy saints.
I have to imagine you’ve read the Gospel of Judas, one of the early Gnostic writings. Because that framing of Judas is as old as Christianity itself. Judas the most faithful disciple, the only one who understand the true purpose, selected for a great and terrible purpose. The gnostics are wild and fascinating to read.
Brandon, can I tell you something? I feel like a lot of people like their thinking done for them which is where religion finds a lot of purchase these days but I feel as though content like yours is helping me see things from perspectives other than blind idiot faith. I wanted to thank you personally for your content.
You are a genius in your Mindshift work. The world needs your critique view of the Bible. It is not right or wise to endlessly accept what the Bible says just because the Bible says it - your 'Contradictions' and 'Problematic Passages' prove that.
What is worth, value, and importance of human beings and Jesus Christ to Atheists and Christians? ANSWER - Atheists fill the world with LIE and false claim that the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in the Bible are worthless and useless, nothing but lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales and Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions are unbothered and just don't care even if their LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Trinity", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" offend, hurt, insult, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS. What is the worth, value, and importance of human beings and Jesus Christ to the Creator? ANSWER - The BIBLE reveals that all persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the Creator's right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
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@@clbo9878 WORTHLESS and USELESS ATHEISM and RELIGIONS Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions are the sources of LIES and false claims that GOD doesn't exist and the BIBLE is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales that will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and ETERNAL DEATHS to Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Atheists. The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the BIBLE The BIBLE is the source of TRUTHS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in GOD's right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
New subscriber here but I was wondering if you could do a video on a certain subject that crippled me for years when I was a Christian. That is the blasphemy of the holy spirit, or the unforgivable sin. I'm completely over it now, but many people who still have belief are suffering absolute mental anguish with this. PS love your content, and your approach to this subject matter.
@MindShift-Brandon thank you for the reply Brandon. Now, don't quote me on this, but I am sure that 10 years ago, I read that something like 25% of the more religious Christians have struggled with this issue. I distinctly remember living in total horror at the contents of these bible verses. Mix that in with 'God is not the author of confusion' the uncertainty of salvation and the story about the man who claimed to have spent 23 minutes in hell (another good topic) and you have a recipe for a mental health catastrophe.
Hey Brandon, thinkingfailure here. I was wondering if you could do a video or offer advice on how to move on once one is no longer a Christian. Now what? How can one live life now? What should one read, what are some things one should do? How to move on from fear, from thinking someone is in one's head reading and judging thoughts? And so much else. How does one move on?
I love Brandon's videos. I would recommend The Harmonic Atheist too as he talks one-to-one with people who have deconverted (some deconstructed) and they have great insights about how they are doing life as a non-believer.
I suppose we can be glad that some apologists are taking the tack of saying the story is hyperbolic, instead of defending another OT genocide. It's still blatantly false, but baby steps are better than nothing.
Rahab: the prostitute who sold out her people to their enemies to be massacred to the last baby in exchange for sparing her and her family. What a beautiful story of faith and love.
You shall be cursed for generations" and then added, "You will come to rule over them" and "You will exceed all of them, for you will sacrifice the man that clothes me." -Gospel of judas
If indeed there's a divine plan, and everyone is - consciously or otherwise - playing their part, then the men who arranged and carried out the 'Final Solution' were, as some of them believed, doing god's work. Fuck that.
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
I blocked this out as a believer, but deconverted now I remember how disappointed I’d be as a kid with the Bible’s follow up to its setups. “The Promised Land, land of milk and honey, this is gonna be great!” Nope, no milk and honey, just slaughter and destruction. “Samson’s gonna tell a riddle. Cool, I like riddles!” Nope, it’s not a riddle and it makes no sense. “The Ten Commandments? Let’s do this! God’s top ten!” Don’t make graven images? Uhhhh…. Never thought about doing that but ok I guess
- the land of milk and honey, my children. - god, in the fukkn Middle East, really? How difficult would it have been to put some oil in that ground, for fox ache??? (a lost bible dialogue, probably)
If you are pro god, you are not for people. As Forrest Valkai often states, if someone could prove the existence of a god, he would of course believe, but he would still be an Anti Theist. I 100% share that sentiment.
Your sermon about Judas kind of made sense to me. I think it's the twisted logic you get when the all-good God requires bad things to happen. Someone's got to do the dirty work.
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
I went to a French Catholic school where we weren't allowed to speak or sing in English - with one exception: the nuns taught us that awful Jericho song. It's an annoying ear worm to this day. And the tune is so cheerful!
This is why fables ALWAYS outlast actual historic fact: Fables are used to tell and teach an objective moral lesson meanwhile historical facts simply teach what happened.
moral lessons cannot be objective. They are always subjective. The g0d finds genocide moral. I disagree. It depends on the subjects (the god and I) respect life? SURE thing. And then all the tedbundys of the world disagree. Just another example.
Yes, it was so disgusting & so wonderful & so awesome what you did with Judas’ story! I absolutely love it & so would all the people at the church I use to attend who are nothing but cult followers! 😊
Good message. Don't hand over your perspective, your critical thinking safeguards, your sense of right and wrong, all for an external, prepackaged set of beliefs and moral values fed to you by a religion/political force. Manipulation is when we are coerced to hand over what we wouldn't have otherwise given up. Promises about the afterlife are a super easy tool for manipulation, it's no wonder all the major religions use it.
As I have no reason to take the bible seriously, its claims are irrelevant. Again, I was never pressured into believing in things that couldn't be demonstrated to be factual.
Brandon, imagine the burdened and broken heart of Judas. Having to betray his lord for the sake of all humanity. He didn't want to do it. But he knew it must be done. With a guilty heart he exclaimed "I betrayed innocent blood". And then committed suicide to save all humanity from the punishment of God.
@@christophergibson7155Nonsensical response. If this deity had a perfect time to forgive humanity it was right after the supposed fall, in the garden of Eden. Waiting 4 thousand years is a big problem. “You: But it wasn’t the right time, this god knows better.” If an individual waits 4,000 years to forgive someone that person is not humble.
wanna lead the ignorant masses? Give them somebody to HATE. Judas was invented to be hated by the fans of this mythology. Combined with their 0 critical thinking skills, it worked as intended.
I walked into one of the the churches in my town yesterday to cool off from the heat outside, a pastor insisted on praying for me, so i just her, but then she said "We plan our lives in advance". and i thought hang on that's not biblical at all is it, ... more of a kind of modern or new age belief really.
whenever you say "innocent women and children" my heart hurts remembering a time when I was taught to react to this with "no one is innocent, we are all filthy and unworthy, we deserve only the fires of hell forever". It always bothered me, and I am ashamed to think that it took 35 years to say "enough".
You have obviously never known the love of God that is in Christ Jesus the Lord. Those who dwell on the fear of Hell and The Lake of Fire have a distorted view of salvation. Jesus is not a fire escape but a life giver. He came to set the sinner free from their enslavement to sin. He came to make us Holy and Christ like in every area of life.
@@christophergibson7155 I agree. I was taught the bible very honestly by people who didn't pick and choose the pretty parts.
@@christophergibson7155 You're too brainwashed. Don't comment.
The question is innocent compared to who? If the comparisons is towards other humans, then you would have a valid argument, but that is not the comparison. The comparison is to God, and we are not innocent before God, no one is. Yeah it is hard to accept the Biblical fact that the human heart is evil and wicked. Everyone wants to believe that they are good, but we are not. How you feel is not relevant to who we actually are. You wanting to feel better about yourself is just you lying to yourself that you are a good person, but if you would actually sit down and be honest you are not. We are all selfish we put ourselves first, we chase after material wealth and pleasures of the body, we lie, we cheat, we steal, we hate others, we get angry when things do not go our way. Yes this makes you a bad person, and comparing yourself to other people who you would say, well at least I have never killed anyone, my response would be, not yet, but you have most likely thought about it. And what is there to stop you from killing someone. People have been able to morally justify just about anything.
There can be no change until you admit that you need to change. The alcoholic, the drug addict, the porn addict doesn't see the harm they are doing to themselves and will never change until someone confronts them with the truth. Sin is no different.
@@darinbracy8433 thanks for writing such a huge paragraph to tell me I'm a bad person. Specially "in comparison to your god" who does all the awful things he does in the bible, like multiple genocides, setting laws for beating slaves, ordering a rapist to pay the father and marry the victim, killing two people on the spot for lying about money and burning people in hell for being the way he made them. And please, don't bother with explanations, I was an evangelical christian for 35 years, I know all of it like the palm of my hand.
"Even when the bible fails, it fails in the wrong direction". 😅 I actually chuckled.
I wonder how many people, when they thought _"I feel God made me for a purpose, I feel like God designed me for something bigger than myself",_ concluded that this purpose was simply to die a horrible death for the glory of others? If God does indeed have a plan, why do people assume they aren't just mere pawns?
right?! most of human history suggests, that if he is real and has a plan, its terrible for the vast majority. But everything thinks they are the next moses, paul etc.
I've been saying since Covid that there is significant evidence that there is indeed a Spiritual War going on. Why else are children being told that they can change their biological gender if they were born male they can become female and vice verse or they can become Gender Fluid and go back and forth between the genders or they can become Gender Non-Binary and not be a Gender Children are literally being coerced by their teachers, school counselors their psychologists and Dr's to remove their genitalia WHY FOR WHAT PURPOSE? If we are in a Spiritual WarFare than GOD IS 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR IT HE IS NOT GOOD AND WHY ARE CHRISTIANS TASKED WITH FIGHTING IT WHEN GOD IS ALL POWERFUL
Well, it's something that i see in almost ALL religions.
I never saw a religion that you're 100% mistreated as a bug and the book says for the entire time that you're sick, yada yada. One thing that i think that attract religious people it's, how probably a lot noticed, is the """""purpose"""""" (even the Bible, despite his countless flaws, presents good stuff to who die in the faith).
This is was i saw many Christians saying that they had depression, then God supposedly spoke in his ears and they converted.
Almost all the religions promises something good: Heaven, Nirvana, Reincarnate in a better state, drink and battle in Valhalla, etc...
Religious want to feel with a purpose bc themselves couldn't find/made one, this is why they convert to religion.
Along with the Pleasures, have the coercion. Abrahamic religions (and some others) have a Hell/Sheol/Islam Hell (idk the name).
It's search for purpose, desire and fear.
That's what make people become religious.
What could be better to them than thought you was designed in the image of the creator/king?
Also, this is why religious avoid incoherences or bad stuff that their God/gods do.
Anyway, this is a rant, if any of you have something to correct me or add another reason, I'm ready to read it
@@MindShift-Brandon I agree, I also want to point out that Moses and Paul, while influential, also had a pretty terrible life filled with lots of suffering (if Moses even existed)
It reminds me of a short story I read many years ago. The guy is convinced he's the center of the universe and everything happens for him. If the light's green, it's because he's important. If he misses the elevator, it's because someone in *that* car farted. All goes well until a truck runs a red light and kills him, because otherwise it would have hit the woman backing out of her drive that is *actually* the reason for the universe.
I've asked a pastor - if the bible is god's perfect word, why should I trust their human commentary on it over what it actually says?
Do you remember the response?
@@n.c.1201Yes, it was a catholic priest so their response was (paraphrasing) that "god understood that not all people can read, especially children, and learn in different ways so the holy spirit guides the (catholic) church clergy on how to disseminate god's word to individuals and groups widely varying people."
Not a wholly unreasonable response but then we discussed that this is supposedly god here and the problems of god playing favorites, using flawed and fallible humans as middlemen and gatekeepers. My contention was that god could avoid a whole host of problems and be more successful if god just communicated with each human directly and cut out the go-betweens. He acknowledged these are frustrating issues and the conversation basically ended with catholicisms go to excuse of that "it's a mystery of faith."
@@dougt7580I have interviewed 7 different Catholics priests plus a monsignor. Not only they have became entangled in their own arguments to the point the cannot explain themselves, but many times they have refuted and contradicted each other. I have recorded everything. Just for fun I have thought of going to the local bishop so he can hear them. It would be gold to see his reaction. The whole ," mystery of faith" thing is the most stupid conversation ending cliche ever. And Catholics use it as a way to deflect and try to avoid a heated argumentation from the opposite side.
@@kevinnazario1015That mirrors my experience, having been raised in a Catholic bubble and having had candid conversations with several priests on my way out. I started to notice in religion class in catholic high school that "mystery of faith" got trotted out an AWFUL lot, and it sounded like a cheap excuse even then.
That would be hilarious to show those to the bishop, because obviously he'd have to decide which of his underling's is teaching heresy on his watch. Although I'm sure it'd just get swept under the rug like they do with everything else.
@@dougt7580 I am glad he was a catholic saying that because it falls in line with their history of only clergy having bibles. The baptists I was with for a few years have no excuse... they really hated the catholics and I was raised catholic and felt the baptists over exaggerated and under appreciated the catholics in certain points. that's when I became one with reality: they will all claim they are right. It was the beginning of my end and it didn't take long.
Good points on your end. Some things are a mystery... but the text shouldn't be if it is perfect :-)
"When we feel like we're nobodies" we should go to therapy, not to somebody who preys on low self-esteem like this pastor.
The thing about Judas was something I even thought back when I was a believer. Like: "Yeah, he sold Jesus out. But wasn't that necessary for the sacrifice to happen? Why should he get shit for that when what he did was actually necessary for everyone to be safed? What else was supposed to happen?"
The problem is that nobody is supposed to do it because God doesn't want innocent people betrayed, but also somebody has to do it because God wants Jesus specifically betrayed. So it's a situation where, apparently, everyone doing the right thing would've resulted in no salvation for anyone. Meaning the best outcome was for somebody to "take one for the team," but it just seems like bad moral luck that it happened to be Judas.
Or worse, it was like, deliberate sabotage on Jesus's part: If, hypothetically, Jesus knew when he called each of his disciples whether they would betray him to the authorities under specific circumstances at specific times (and for Christians who think he was God, he has to have known that to at least some extent), and he picked eleven guys who wouldn't do that and one guy who would, then Judas was basically singled out to do the bad thing. If keeping Judas from sinning is somehow moral, then it was wrong of Jesus to call him as a disciple; after all, had he not done so, Judas would never have betrayed him, since he wouldn't have had any opportunity to.
The hero is nothing without the "bad guy"
judas and everybody else, every event in that story is irrelevant in the end. For no sacrifice happened there, even if the st0ry is completely true.
and yes, when the christians insist that a sacrifice did happen, they really should love judas for it.
either way, it makes exactly 0 sense
I gotta say that your consistently timed and high quality videos are an impressive feat. Keep up the good work!
Thank you much, my friend!
two heroes for the progress of humanity 👏
I get sick thinking about how children are manipulated.... everywhere... all over the world... for any and every reason...Sometimes they live long enough to tell their story and hope for change.
Manipulated...but since this is an anti-christian series, you mean Christian manipulation, right?
@@theol64 That's a great question. I was actually thinking a lot about child soldiers and any other child who are put into dangerous positions because they are taught an Us Vs. Them situation. But honestly, all kids are moulded... manipulated.. just for different purposes. Some good, some bad. Sorry I was not very clear in my thoughts
It's great you added the bible text. It's not vague like "killed everyone" or simply "burned it to the ground". No! It says men and women, young and old. When apologists say it's a fort to try whitewash the OT they are lying!
It is interesting the pretzels they'll twist themselves in to somehow justify obviously heinous acts by the God of the Bible.
@rizdekd3912 what's even more bizarre to me is that these stories are fables and myths, not actual history. They want them to be real but end up having to make excuses for the horrible way they depict God from a modern-day point of view..
As a young child I questioned and was confused at the stories of Abraham's willingness to murder Issac, God allowing Job to lose everything including his children and Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at her home being destroyed. The moral of the story the adults taught was always FAITH. I gave up questioning and accepted the bullshit. I wish I had had more faith in that child I was. So grateful you help bring back the common sense that Bible storytelling and manipulation convinced so many into giving up.
Wow. This is just incredibly generous! I appreciate you letting me know i have helped and appreciate this encouragement and support so much.
❤
What baffles me is how God promises lands already occupied by others. He owns everything, why can't he just give them another land? Raise a whole island, a planet, a universe for his people? And whose people are the rest? Is he disowning them? My ancestors are not from Israel, does that mean I'm not part of all this?
The Bible only makes any sense if it was written by barely civilized people in an extremely tribal culture. The minute I let myself consider that as an actual possibility was the minute I stopped being Christian. If their "perfect loving God with perfect morality" had any hand in it whatsoever as part of his "perfect plan", he would have to be inept AF and in serious need of getting his priorities straight.
Can we discuss the factoid that Joshua dispatched the spies after his diety had declared him indestructible? Go to Joshua 1:5 to truly apprehend the context of my statement ❤ El Shaddai could have completely excluded the part pertaining towards the spying 🕵️♀️
How about you take a gander at Mindshift's video regarding how Yahweh horribly treats non-Semites?
@@BenjaminEaster-b8b will do
You are sooo handsome.
Sometimes I like to believe there is a really amazing being out there who has no book, no religion, nothing like that- but just loves us and looks on us with kindness. No interference. Just love. Just a thought. I will never ascribe to this religion or any other for the rest of my existence.
7:11 Faith and fear aren't confused by the believer; they're the same thing. Remember, these are people who call themselves God-FEARING folks.
I will sometimes ask Christians if they believe Judas is in hell. Many assert yes, then have a real hard time justifying why.
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
People used to ask me what the first thing I wanted to do in heaven was. My answer, consistently, was to talk rlto Judas. Most people thought I was joking, but I wasn't....
@@lyndacordova6212 What does rlto mean?
@lyndacordova6212 Would you inquire as to his underlying motivation? (i.e. Did he know that Jesus had to die all along, therefore, he was simplisticly speeding up the process)
Not sure what you are referring to.@@BenjaminEaster-b8b
Ironic how everything is Gods will... until its CANCER then all of a sudden "G0d hAs n0tHInG tO Do wIth gIVinG pE0pLe cAncEr" ... and again when the person is in remission then magically it's Gods will 😂
Exactly!
One common question asked about Biblical passages is "what does this mean to you?" The question needs to be "what does it mean
to those at that time?" So learning the Bible means not just the scripture but learning the culture(s) during that time period.
Absolute home run!! I did not expect that on a Tuesday. Passionate deconstruction of this stuff is what hooked me on your channel in the first place.
Thanks so much, Matthew!
Thanks!
Thanks so much for the support!
I actually made that Judas-comment while still in the church. I asked why everybody see him as the bad guy, he just did what God wanted him to do? I was not popular, to say the least. I said it to see what reaction I would get, and I got the reaction I expected to get.
Mindshift, you do a brilliant job of pointing out the contradicts and providing much food for thought!
The recent videos, particularly the "betterment of God" one, have been my questions and thoughts, but coming from you.
Excellent work!
Keep it up! ✌️😎
Appreciate that so much. Thanks!
😅 You NAILED IT, yet again, Brandon. Seriously man if I could give more I would. Your content and commentary on all the subjects mind blowing! 🤯 🎉Superb job !
Honestly when you went into ‘Christian preaching mode’ 😂😂❤❤❤😮😮 I nearly was caught back into my church attending days!! Keep going you are a valuable member and second to non with your extensive skills in this field!!
Well said.
Unbelievably kind as usual. Thank you!
“I almost started to believe it myself” 😂 love it!
This was on that next level sh...t!!!! the breakdown of the stories, the analysis of the concepts, and then putting it all together in this easy to understand video! You were in the "zone" on this one! Michael Jordan-esque!!!
haha, thanks so much!
Absolutely loved the way this video was done. I like how you 'preached' about judas being a good guy, the ultimate bad guy for God. Made me think you reconverted for a second. Having a lesson broken down and explained why it was wrong was really helpful. Thank you!
appreciate this so much!
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire
- wise shaman, do you see this huge and sharp bone? How do you expect me to stab this into a fellow boy-man?
- Well, those boy-men worship false spirits, you know...
- HOW DARE THEY!!!
crazy how fear is never allowed to just be fear, like this story or the commands to fear god. they have to make it something else like faith or respect. it's almost like they know acknowledging that it is fear just makes their god look bad
Yes for sure!
No. You have not understood what the fear of the Lord is. "“The fear of the LORD is the BEGINNING OF WISDOM, And the KNOWLEDGE of the Holy One is UNDERSTANDING." (Proverbs 9:10) And, "In mercy and truth Atonement is provided for iniquity; And by the fear of the LORD one departs from evil." (Proverbs 16:6)
@christophergibson7155 That still doesn't make any sense. And throwing scripture at atheists doesn't help advance the conversation.
You basically did an elaborate way of saying "Nuh uh"
@@ZeusAssassin It makes every bit of sense. And your opinion does not make the truth of the Word of God of non effect.
@@christophergibson7155 " And your opinion does not make the truth of the Word of God of non effect." This is true. The Bible is not effective regardless of opinion.
I've thought that way about Judas a lot! To bear the burden of Most Hated, Betrayer, must have been so hard. Certainly it was too difficult for him to handle. I've used it myself in writing as what being a chosen one might mean besides being the hero. He deserved better, as a character.
Dude, that “sermon” on Judas was brilliant! Especially when you twisted out that application step of making it about spending time with Jesus. Beautiful…and🤮
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thanks, man!
This was one of of my biggest contention points when deconstructing. When I was Christian, I never understood why Judas was considered a villain. Jesus stayed up all night to the point of passing out and sweating blood praying not to die and eventually came to terms with the fact that he had to in order to fulfill this divine plan, and then TOLD his followers that it would be one of them that would turn him over to the Romans. He Then TOLD Judas to go do what he had to do. It seems really clear that in that story, Judas is doing his part to complete the biblical salvation plan under Jesus’ instruction. Bypassing all moral problems with that, Jesus clearly knew the plan and, and Christians say, was a willing sacrifice. For whatever reason turning himself in wouldn’t work right for the cosmic drama or presumably he would have done so. Without Judas, no one gets to heaven.
Now I can’t defend that any of that is true or right because I don’t think it is, but 100% in the story as written and accepted by Christians, Judas was a hero in that story and Jesus was in on it.
Those of us who grew up Christian and have left accept that we were controlled by false authority. It makes you rethink everything that you were programmed into believing.
You have an amazing way of slicing through the nonsense. I swear it's a gift and I sure appreciate everything you do!
Thank you so much!
I can understand that you completely missed the life Jesus has for YOU. "we were controlled by false authority."
Perhaps you were in some church setting. But to know the true authority is life and life more abundant.
"“All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth." (words of Jesus in Matthew 28:18)
@@christophergibson7155it's regurgitated fables and mythology.
The fact that you hang out on Brandon's videos and are constantly commenting makes me think you're trying convince yourself.
@@christophergibson7155 Off topic, but I'm curious. How much success have you and others had evangelizing in the comments of atheist youtubers?
@@christophergibson7155 And what form does this life more abundant, take?
And how did that express itself... from 900 AD to 1800 AD, exactly?
In often highly, highly divided, Christendom.
Just like the true message of the temptation narrative in Genesis: An apple a day keeps the Yahweh away. Such wisdom. I have been eating apples every day for years and this deity is nowhere to be seen so I think it is working.
Hahahahaha 😀 What a magnificent joke
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
@@BenjaminEaster-b8b Yep, if he loved us all equally he wouldn’t have revealed himself to only one small people group for thousands of years and then send his son to a tiny speck on the world map and take hundreds of years, in same cases over a thousand years, for his message of salvation for reach everyone. Seems as though his chosen people got the wide road and the rest of humanity got the narrow road or no road at all.
Where does it say apple?
@@darinbracy8433 It doesn’t but lots of Christians show the fruit as an apple. The serpent is also never said to be the devil but lots of Christian say it is. Christians love to color outside the lines.
Thank you again and again, for standing up for the voiceless and slaughtered. For respecting the relentless and pointless destruction enough to bring a constant spotlight to it all. I appreciate your work. So much.
Thank you, Deb. That was very kind of you
You came correct my man. The hypothetical with Judas was spot on.
hey thanks so much!
Solid & brilliant. Thank you, Mr. B.
My pleasure! thanks
It’s crazy when you sit down and think about it.
The Bible truly is a “make your own adventure” book. You can literally make it say whatever you need it to in order to promote whatever message/agenda you have. The fact that Christendom allows the liberty for people to do this contextless extraction is the main reason we have so many different Christian sects and ideologies despite everyone supposing to be one under the same Holy Spirit. It’s just like you said in this video. It’s a good tool for control.
Also, I knew this video would hit home for you given your issue with the rahab story pre-deconversion that you shared in your deconversion story lol. Religion is hard for people that are more logically inclined that cannot shut off the reasoning parts of their brains. I know that first hand
Thanks for this and for knowing me now based of so many vids, I feel seen.
That's a funny analogy.
For me, Christianity is the fandom with the most controversial and differents interpretations of a SINGLE collection of 66 (for protestants) books.
Wait, hmmm...
66?
Isn't 6 the number of the man (according with some Christian numerology ?)
" You can literally make it say whatever you need it to in order to promote whatever message/agenda you have."
Spoken from a sinner who does not have the Spirit of God. It is in your made up mind that you conceive such a notion. Yet the Word of God tells us the true reason..."But the natural (soulish) man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned...
(void of the Spirit)" (1 Corinthians 2:14)
@@christophergibson7155 look... or i didn't take the point or your comment don't say nothing about the different interpretations of Christianity and some passages. (that was JDrocks was trying to explain).
You at least read what he said after it, about the liberty for people to do this contextless extraction?
Because, as i noticed with another denominations, is that they can also cherry-pick verses to satisfy their doctrines.
But, if you're saying that another denominations are created bc they don't have God's soul and discernment, who can confirms what is the true denomination?
Also, is a bit obvious why we consider foolishness. And i can assure that don't have anything with the soul (because you first need to prove with evidences that a soul exists and is not the same thing as Mind/conscience).
Edit: if I missed your point, correct me.
@@christophergibson7155 “the book is true and I’m going to prove it to you by quoting from the book” that’s circular reasoning. Proves absolutely nothing in reality.
Do you disagree that people use and have used the Bible/christianity for whatever agenda they wanted? Attributing whatever meaning they want from it? Or would you rather disingenuously attack me instead of my statement?
“Melted in fear” sounds pretty metal 🤟
Admirable clarity and logic
Thanks!
This might be your best video yet!
I just had a conversation with someone I know about this very thing!
I told them that according to their logic, Judas is actually a HERO!
Spot on, brother!
Yeah, Brandon is usually spot on! Love him so much!
Yes, when you can make a book say anything, the book really isn't saying anything.
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
How about about you venture to Nonstampcollector, then view his video regarding biblical contradictions? 😂 It is equivalently hilarious and telling, profoundly telling ❤
Exactly!
@@BenjaminEaster-b8bhis video about Jephthah sacrificing his daughter is powerful. He can be quite funny, but that one, accompanied by Stravinsky’s Firebird Suite, is chilling to me
You can do it with any book so no book says anything by your logic.
The "God makes no mistakes" on his back wall made me laygh
Lucifer? Placing an off limits tree within arm's reach of Adam and Eve, whom are totally ignorant at this point? The global flood, which he felt bad about afterwards? Naaah sounds like a perfect track record.
A very nice summary of the Gospel of Judas. If that branch of Christianity had survived, we would frown upon the atonement story as unworthy of a Supreme Being.
It’s all about fear. Fear of not knowing what happens after dying. Fear of a ruthless war god that demands fear, adoration and love(?) with threat of eternal torture. I’m certain if an alternate path to heaven was offered, not involving Yahweh, few people would continue validating this monster or subject themselves to these insufferable church services.
I don’t know but the Judas twist got me in tears 😂😂😂 that was so good
ha! thanks man, too easy to manipulate this stuff.
Thanks Brandon. When you started to tell that story about Judas in the way you explained it, I did start feeling sick and I almost fast forwarded but I figured you were heading somewhere important so I listened. It sure did "bring the message home".
Wow that Judas bit was actually really moving I know it was bs but it still got me a litttle
Finally someone who also had thought the Conquering of the promissed land didn't really need to happen when a God all Powerful can do anything and does not need to kill anyone to get there.
Also, Judas (Althought, I believe if it Wasn't Judas, it would be anyone else) was the injust one here since he was created for that sole purpose where he didn't have any choice and now he is being tortured by God for eternity by...Making God's will? what?
I recently found that the origin of reverences is "to hold in awe or fear". Interesting, isn't it? This lovely thing we're supposed to feel for god is fear.
Fantastic. I had vaguely the same ideas about Judas when I was a child, back when my parents were still sending me to sunday school.
Thanks!
such a brilliant premise, I love it!!
Thanks!
Tuesday takedowns give me motivation to get through Monday
thats very nice to hear!
I love everything you do, Brandon. That Judas bit was *chefs kiss*!
Keep thinking! ⚛️
thank you so much for this kindness!
The Lord of fear and coercion
oh pastor your sermon was beautiful, we need more of it!
lol, thanks!
Well said. I also had my doubts about all these children's songs, even when I was a Christian. I wondered, why would we joyfully sing about the deaths of ancient civilians who, according to the Bible, perished at the fall of Jericho? There is also a song about David and Goliath, and although Goliath was mocking the name of God, why would Christians celebrate the death of a heathen and turn it into a song for children? How does that fit within the later teachings of Christianity? The idea is simply disgusting and shows hate, rather than love.
You made a good point about Rahab and Judas. Christians can't see this because they are blinded by the idea that the Bible is holy and its characters (characters who receive God's favor) are all holy saints.
I have to imagine you’ve read the Gospel of Judas, one of the early Gnostic writings. Because that framing of Judas is as old as Christianity itself. Judas the most faithful disciple, the only one who understand the true purpose, selected for a great and terrible purpose.
The gnostics are wild and fascinating to read.
magnanimous
There's a separate non-canonical "gospel" elucidating upon Jesus' sapling years ❤
Brandon, can I tell you something? I feel like a lot of people like their thinking done for them which is where religion finds a lot of purchase these days but I feel as though content like yours is helping me see things from perspectives other than blind idiot faith. I wanted to thank you personally for your content.
It is my pleasure. Thanks for taking the time to say so.
You are a genius in your Mindshift work. The world needs your critique view of the Bible. It is not right or wise to endlessly accept what the Bible says just because the Bible says it - your 'Contradictions' and 'Problematic Passages' prove that.
What is worth, value, and importance of human beings and Jesus Christ to Atheists and Christians?
ANSWER -
Atheists
fill the world with LIE and false claim that the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in the Bible are worthless and useless, nothing but lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
and
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
are unbothered and just don't care even if their LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Trinity", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
offend,
hurt, insult, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors
and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS.
What is the worth, value, and importance of human beings and Jesus Christ to the Creator?
ANSWER -
The BIBLE reveals
that
all persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
will
definitely be honored and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are the guarantee
that
loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the Creator's right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
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@@clbo9878 WORTHLESS and USELESS ATHEISM and RELIGIONS
Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and all kinds of Religions
are
the sources of LIES and false claims that GOD doesn't exist and the BIBLE is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
that
will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and ETERNAL DEATHS
to
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Atheists.
The WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the BIBLE
The BIBLE is the source of TRUTHS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in GOD's right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Another good one Brandon
Thanks!
Brilliant as always. Great Content
Thanks so much!
Conversate is not a word. Converse is the word you were looking for. This was a great video
New subscriber here but I was wondering if you could do a video on a certain subject that crippled me for years when I was a Christian. That is the blasphemy of the holy spirit, or the unforgivable sin. I'm completely over it now, but many people who still have belief are suffering absolute mental anguish with this. PS love your content, and your approach to this subject matter.
Thanks so much and welcome! Yes will add it to the list
@MindShift-Brandon thank you for the reply Brandon. Now, don't quote me on this, but I am sure that 10 years ago, I read that something like 25% of the more religious Christians have struggled with this issue. I distinctly remember living in total horror at the contents of these bible verses. Mix that in with 'God is not the author of confusion' the uncertainty of salvation and the story about the man who claimed to have spent 23 minutes in hell (another good topic) and you have a recipe for a mental health catastrophe.
Hey Brandon, thinkingfailure here. I was wondering if you could do a video or offer advice on how to move on once one is no longer a Christian. Now what? How can one live life now? What should one read, what are some things one should do? How to move on from fear, from thinking someone is in one's head reading and judging thoughts? And so much else. How does one move on?
I do have a playlist called deconstruction help that has videos on a few of these topics. I will add the other ideas to my list. Thank you
@@MindShift-Brandon I appreciate you, man. Thanks for all the hard work.
I love Brandon's videos. I would recommend The Harmonic Atheist too as he talks one-to-one with people who have deconverted (some deconstructed) and they have great insights about how they are doing life as a non-believer.
I suppose we can be glad that some apologists are taking the tack of saying the story is hyperbolic, instead of defending another OT genocide.
It's still blatantly false, but baby steps are better than nothing.
would be better if they did like randal rauser and deny the historicity of this stories in particular altogether
Incorrect. God always administers righteous judgment. (Psalm 19:9b & Psalm 119:160)
@@christophergibson7155 What a surprise. The bible says God is righteous.
Thank you Brandon ❤ I'm so happy your channel is growing
Another amazing video. 👍
Thank you!
Rahab: the prostitute who sold out her people to their enemies to be massacred to the last baby in exchange for sparing her and her family. What a beautiful story of faith and love.
Wow, man! Chills!
Never heard the Gospel of Judas with such persuasive passion. So glad you're on our side.
Appreciate that very much!
Almost 50K. 🎉🎉🎉
Pretty Darn Crazy!
I was always bothered by God wanting to be feared, even over being loved. There are so many stories demonstrating why that’s a bad idea
You shall be cursed for generations" and then added, "You will come to rule over them" and "You will exceed all of them, for you will sacrifice the man that clothes me."
-Gospel of judas
Great video Brandon!
tbh the narrative of judas being a selfless courageous hero makes more sense than rahab. girl was just pragmatic
If indeed there's a divine plan, and everyone is - consciously or otherwise - playing their part, then the men who arranged and carried out the 'Final Solution' were, as some of them believed, doing god's work.
Fuck that.
yup! cant work this way.
Good video thanks
Valid point, not many notes.
The story of rahab truly makes it dificult to present a loving God, glad there is not much evidence to support it.
There is lots of evidence to support it.
@@christophergibson7155 you just choose NOT to present any. Because, you are braindead troll.
“Selfish and narcissistic” is such a good description of Christianity.
Somehow Veggietales forgot the part *after* the walls fell down in their rendition of the story XD
Funniest episode ever! 'Ugh! I want to throw up!' I laughed out loud.
Boy oh boy...at 14:00 I was about to scream Noooooooo! LoL 🤣😆🤣
I have read my Bible independently during my deconstruction and afterwards than I EVER, EVER, EVER did as a somewhat confident Christian ✝️
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
I blocked this out as a believer, but deconverted now I remember how disappointed I’d be as a kid with the Bible’s follow up to its setups.
“The Promised Land, land of milk and honey, this is gonna be great!” Nope, no milk and honey, just slaughter and destruction.
“Samson’s gonna tell a riddle. Cool, I like riddles!” Nope, it’s not a riddle and it makes no sense.
“The Ten Commandments? Let’s do this! God’s top ten!” Don’t make graven images? Uhhhh…. Never thought about doing that but ok I guess
Lol! Love this. Might need to make a whole video of them
- the land of milk and honey, my children.
- god, in the fukkn Middle East, really? How difficult would it have been to put some oil in that ground, for fox ache???
(a lost bible dialogue, probably)
If you are pro god, you are not for people. As Forrest Valkai often states, if someone could prove the existence of a god, he would of course believe, but he would still be an Anti Theist.
I 100% share that sentiment.
Your sermon about Judas kind of made sense to me. I think it's the twisted logic you get when the all-good God requires bad things to happen. Someone's got to do the dirty work.
I neve ruminated upon that perspective previously, but you are articulating a valid conceptualization 😊
@MindShift-Brandon Isn't it bizarro how Yahweh claims to love us collectively and individualisticly simultaneously, yet he additionally states that the majority of us, who aren't mentally disabled or below the age of accountability, end up damned. This is according to an exact metaphorical verse in the New Testament about the narrow road, aka the unrighteousness road, and wide road, aka the unrighteous road 😮
I went to a French Catholic school where we weren't allowed to speak or sing in English - with one exception: the nuns taught us that awful Jericho song. It's an annoying ear worm to this day. And the tune is so cheerful!
Plot twist: Rahab has the whole town hide in her apartment; Joshua has the Israelites delete them en masse anyway.
This is why fables ALWAYS outlast actual historic fact: Fables are used to tell and teach an objective moral lesson meanwhile historical facts simply teach what happened.
moral lessons cannot be objective. They are always subjective. The g0d finds genocide moral. I disagree. It depends on the subjects (the god and I)
respect life? SURE thing. And then all the tedbundys of the world disagree. Just another example.
Yes, it was so disgusting & so wonderful & so awesome what you did with Judas’ story! I absolutely love it & so would all the people at the church I use to attend who are nothing but cult followers! 😊
Hey thanks so much!
Hi Brandon the whole of evangelicalism is motivated by fear I am now over my fear of hell it's not he lhell it's fear
Good message. Don't hand over your perspective, your critical thinking safeguards, your sense of right and wrong, all for an external, prepackaged set of beliefs and moral values fed to you by a religion/political force. Manipulation is when we are coerced to hand over what we wouldn't have otherwise given up. Promises about the afterlife are a super easy tool for manipulation, it's no wonder all the major religions use it.
Hey Becca! Good point!
@@2aSunnyPlaceThank you!😊
Wow! Well done, judas as hero of Christianity confirmed!
Several of your recent videos remind me of Joyce Carol Oates's novel "The Accursed." If you haven't read it, you might wish to.
will look it up!
As I have no reason to take the bible seriously, its claims are irrelevant. Again, I was never pressured into believing in things that couldn't be demonstrated to be factual.
A toast
To friend Judas
Without whom
Heaven's doors
Are forever barred
(Written back when I was still a Christian.)
So true it wouldn’t be hard to identify Jesus as 11 of the disciples were young teenagers while Jesus and Peter were much much older.
Brandon, imagine the burdened and broken heart of Judas. Having to betray his lord for the sake of all humanity. He didn't want to do it. But he knew it must be done. With a guilty heart he exclaimed "I betrayed innocent blood". And then committed suicide to save all humanity from the punishment of God.
The Judas sermon gave me flashbacks to my evangelical years.
I'm pretty sure I need to ask my Christian wife to not let my kids memorize that song if it comes up.
Why didn't Jesus just turn himself in?
Because then the story wouldn't work! Plot holes, weak story and all! 😆
The guy likes to play hard to get.
Because it wasn't His time yet, (as He mentioned several times). In the Father's time, Jesus knew the time too.
@@christophergibson7155Nonsensical response. If this deity had a perfect time to forgive humanity it was right after the supposed fall, in the garden of Eden. Waiting 4 thousand years is a big problem. “You: But it wasn’t the right time, this god knows better.” If an individual waits 4,000 years to forgive someone that person is not humble.
wanna lead the ignorant masses? Give them somebody to HATE. Judas was invented to be hated by the fans of this mythology. Combined with their 0 critical thinking skills, it worked as intended.
I walked into one of the the churches in my town yesterday to cool off from the heat outside, a pastor insisted on praying for me, so i just her, but then she said "We plan our lives in advance". and i thought hang on that's not biblical at all is it, ... more of a kind of modern or new age belief really.
great analysis