The EASIEST Golf Swing for Me! - Golf Test Dummy
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- The EASIEST Golf Swing for Me! - Golf Test Dummy
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This is amazing, you seemed to hit all the positions and looked spot on.
Light bulb moment. Very simple and the key is to move the club. What moves the club? Its not the legs or shoulders. Its the arms which is connected to the club by the hands. The arms and hands move the club. The club needs to be moved. Move the club. I agree-moving the arms while chest still. Great video.
Thanks that all you do for the golfing community...a true culture of giving--may you be forever blessed. May I ask that your next project be looking into the Inside OTT (Miracle) swing. Christo Garcia at MSE golf has spotted something that's been hidden for many years due the industrialized mass coaching industry. I have shaved 3 shots off my index 11 to an 8 in 3 months and I'm absolutely pounding it out there 300yds with ease---doing something we were led to believe was a no no. Its so common sense and noticeable when you know what to look for. Bobby Jones, Snead, Hogan, Player et al all did it
I love the OTT stuff because Cristo has the balls to hold a mirror up to the current rhetoric and philosophy. I've messaged him and he asked me to email. I did, but never got a response. Think I went to his spam folder. So I just never bothered him again. I'd love to hear from him though. I've had OTT this whole time, lol.
Can’t wait until the on course stuff! Love to see you excited about your swing buddy! See you soon
Thanks New York! Coming soon.
Chad, I totally agree with your assessment. I have been pulling info and tips from some of the same teachers to develop what works for me. Great insights. Love your vids.
Thanks a ton! I'll keep it coming.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video and your simple explanation of everything. I am a JV follower and intend to stay with that swing but I shall look forward to your on course video eagerly.Thanks Chad.
Thanks Bob, and people could certainly do worse than JVGA.
Now this is excellent and it ties together the previous three videos. I am very interested in this concept and will be sure to give it a go. Thanks bud and all the best!!
Always appreciate the support Mr. K! More coming. Few kinks to work out.
Can,t wait for the on course action,swing and strike look and sound phenomenal.
It's been great Jari. I took it on the course this weekend and had some great things, but of course, being new, I also learned where I need to improve it.
Chad, I love it!! This is the best distillation of everything you’ve done! Outstanding!👍🏽
Thanks Charlie! I've got some kinks to work out, but it's getting there.
Excellent! So glad after ALL your hard work and commitment you have achieved the great swing you seem to personally love and feel confident in. Very happy for you, thanks for taking us on your journey! Quick question, is the lowest point of your circle directly below your sternum as Shawn Clement teaches?
Thanks Russ! Good question. My response would be that there's a difference between where I'd "feel" the center and low point, and where it actually is. My feel is that my shoulders don't turn, but they CLEARLY do, lol. The true low point is the sternum.
Great video and it is greatly appreciated. I feel your pursuit (and struggle) with trying to combine all those multiple feels and thoughts out there on UA-cam lol. I have definitely been in that boat and it can get ugly trying to juggle more than 1-2 thoughts or feels.
The best way I have found to wrangle all those tips,
positions and feels is to try and combine them into one large swing feel. It’s like thinking about everything and nothing at the same time. One big fluid sequenced feel is the best way for me to describe it.
Sadly I hate to admit that some of my best rounds have been played when I was hung over, little to no sleep and out on an early tee time (and a few times with rental clubs). What I noticed on those rounds was that my head was clear of any specific swing thoughts because I was just too bad off physically to try to entertain any of them. I was just trying to get a nice fluid feel and played excellent. The only time my swing would ever really falter was when I noticed how well I was playing and in an effort to keep it going I began to creep into my old swing thought habits lol. Keep up the grind, I think that is what makes a golfer a golfer. It’s the pursuit of the almost unattainable goal. You grasp it for a moment, then it’s gone and you’re right back to the chase!
Always trying to be better than yesterday. Thanks a ton.
Great video, you hit the nail on the head: golf can be simple if we just let our bodies do what they naturally do. It just needs intention, once we tell it what we want to do, I.e., swing the face of the club in a certain direction, it’ll do it most of the time. Unfortunately, most golfers are taught or told to control the swing and move it positions, which creates way too many mental thoughts, freezes the muscles and prevents freedom of movement. Every swing will be different and we all should use whatever 1 or 2 thoughts that allow us to swing freely with intention. Feel is not real, but once you get “your” feel, it’ll make your swing “real” to you, and that’s all that matters. Good luck with the new swing, now get out there and test it on the course.
Thanks! More work to be done, but I guess there always will be.
Well done sir.
Thanks a bunch Scott!
Good luck. I have found that my feel comes and goes.
Feel certainly does. Hoping I can lock in some fundamentals so I'm not so feel dependent.
That impact sounds phenomenal!!!!
Thanks! It's a work in progress but it's already great I think.
Congratulations! You've just articulated and demonstrated your very own golf swing method. Very solid. I love how you've referenced key components of different methods. And yes, you are correct that it is as simple as swinging the circle around you aand squaring the face through impact while allowing yourself to accommodate that motion. After all, that's what every swing method does. They're just based on the individual. Well put together and from the looks of it should serve you well on the course! Looking forward to the on course test!
Thanks so much Kevin. Still a work in progress, and I've only been at it for a week, so I hope to get the bugs worked out in the coming weeks.
@@GolfTestDummy you'll get them worked out no problem. The great thing is you've got a lot of your own fundamentals laid out and know what they are. That'll make it easier to progress and get it back if you have that "oops" moment. Really cool to see such awesome results. I have a feeling there's a lot of fun rounds in your future my friend.
Hope so Kevin. Time will tell. Can't lose focus or stop pursuing it.
Great results, and it looks like the back is holding up nicely 🤞
Thanks Robert!
I like it. I seen your comment on a Rick shiels video about the shaft lean so I popped over and checked out your channel you got a sub
That's awesome Captain! The last few videos have been about trying to build a simple swing model and presetting forward shaft lean was task 1.
Great video Chad - very pleased for you. Look forward to the on course results.
Much appreciated George. You know, met a few guys named George over the years, and none have ever been anything but good guys. Funny how certain names are like that.
@@GolfTestDummy I played this afternoon and tried your swing on a couple of holes where the fairways are wide and there is no trouble. Surprisingly I hit all the shots very well and straight. I would be interested to know your thoughts on ball position and do you vary the width of your stance at all.
This is a good one. Thanks for asking. With ball position, I'm thinking about 2 things really; Trajectory and low point of my circle. The low point is in front of the ball on the turf, and either at or just before the ball with driver. So when I setup, I set my left shoulder ahead of the ball with a ball on turf, and at the ball with driver. I get that wide stance, which can vary a but based on the intensity of my swing, and I anchor my left shoulder. Tension in the arms, elbows, and wrists will ruin the shot.
@@GolfTestDummy Thanks for your reply. I am playing again today and see how I get on using your swing.
Hi, Chad. Your stable low body give you the very solid strike. I should limit my low body move and try to plant trail foot longer.
You can really feel the torque build when you do it.
That is exactly my thought with the JV swing. Setup closed, freeze body, swing lead arm. It..just..works.
Yes sir. Make it your own, but make it simple as well.
Also this guy has really good hands .. he's a bit vertical when the club is parallel on the way down .. but quick fast hands he then routes it to a perfect R arm position with body closed to unload the uncock and forearm rotation ... he catches up .. a personal idosyncracy that works for him .. this guy is in search of what we all need . simple and correct way ... love it! bob
Outstanding!
Thanks a bunch Ed!
@@GolfTestDummy if you make it through Oklahoma, you need to play a round on us at Winter Creek. Your golf game has definitely helped my golf game. 👍🏻
That's the best compliment Ed. I've been to Tulsa a few times, but it's been years.
Thats so cool man. I am also on the same path. ~For me it works on course to :-)) my magic moment came with putting my right foot back in the setup and swing from there. And now i see that your right foot also flared out a bit. Anyway, its inspirational and keep the fun going buddy.
Thank you and great to hear that your swing is working out, too.
Nice swing Chad 👍 I'm using both the single plane and the JV swing. This combo is helping my game. I'm finally playing better golf ♠️
More work to do until I get it automatic, but those two you mentioned are really good together in my mind.
@@GolfTestDummy it's working for me Chad. Now if I can just figure out how to putt 🤣
Loving your work! and really look forward to your videos - - want to see how it works with Driver!!
I have some on course stuff coming. Stay tuned!
I have to comment on your 10 finger grip. When I started golfing I used this grip simply because I never knew there was a different one. One day, while playing with a group of better players, one of them told me I’d never get better with “that grip.” Wanting to get better, I developed what I feel, and a few have told me, was a very good Vardon grip. Every now and then when I was struggling I would go back and hit a few with the old 10 finger, on the range, and immediately made better contact. I figured maybe at some point as I aged I would have fall back to this grip. Well I’m there…..and the 10 finger feels terrible. I have some pain in my fingers and I sure using it would help me but the feel I developed over the years won’t let me. Surprised you transitioned so easily.
I can relate to that, but not in that order, haha. I started with the interlock Vardon. Of course that felt completely alien, but then again, all of golf at that point was alien. Over time, my fingers were killing me with pain, so I swapped to an overlap. Played that way for years and pretty much developed "golfer's pinky", haha. Switching to 10 fingers was weird at first, but a lot of pain went away, not only in my fingers, but in my troublesome right wrist as well. The wrist pain will never go away, but it isn't as big an issue.
Solid swing, well done. Do you incorporate the ''counter-fall'' that the Gravity Golf guys employ? Like you I'm searching for ''my'' swing and that counter-fall move is key to me. Keep up the good work.
You know I didn't mention it, because I really am trying to keep it simple, and I'm still working some bugs out, but my better swings do have that sense of my weight moving toward the target to get compression.
Reminds me of the rss. Keep up the journey
Thanks!
Loved this video, Chad. Just wondering, are you still using a split grip?
It's a bit split, lol. Not jammed together, but not more than just a bit apart. It's slight.
So Good. When you are smokin it like that. Sticking with it even after a bad day of contact or consistency is the hard part for me. Seems like golf swing is always calling for some change.
That is a huge challenge. Absolutely.
Wich grip I shuold use an also how is the position of the club face at address closed or open?
Chad, check out Leslie King. He was a British instructor many years ago. He was a proponent of the left arm being the dominant aspect of the swing.
Really Solid Swing. Now you move on from being the Test Dummy, to selling the system to the public.
Got to see it on the course though.
Haha. I don't know about selling. All I ask is that people watch, consider, and interact. Nothing new to be created.
Awesome job. I figured this out a while back staying with Hogans stuff (yes Hogans swing is not that difficult), and when it clicks you can't believe how simple it is.
Wishing you the best.
Thanks Ira!
Bets video yet brother….appreciate the content
Much appreciated Khris!
In 1 of your videos you talk about using a split grip. I was wondering if you ever made a video on that subject? I use a split grip a lot. I find I have a lot more control of the clubhead when I use it. Would like to see a video of your thoughts on that subject if you ever get a chance to make one. Thanks
Good idea Bret. There are drills using a split grip, but at one time I'd actually put it in play for a while to stop flipping at impact. I still use a 10 finger grip, but it's not so split anymore.
Congrats.
Thanks Mark! I'll keep grinding. Need to get it automatic.
Absolutely. You will. 170 8 iron is your new norm. You’ll never go back
Hope you're right!
Do you have Monte's video about left arm movement? Thanks for a great video! I'm working with Jim Venetos' UA-cam videos, now, and they have definitely helped my distance and ball compression. What benefit would I get by joining his academy if I've already got the setup and "stillness" concept down??? Thanks so much!
If you've gotten it down and have the total package with every club and you're happy, stick with it. But if you don't, and there are holes and some areas you're struggling with, he may be able to give you some insight and direct instruction that would help.
Seeing the swing from behind you it looks a lot like Reed Howard’s version of the Moe Norman swing, your back foot doesn’t come off ground till right after impact, not your intention but looks great
What is impressive. in this swing is the wideness of his swing arc. This is due to his long arms and the position of the hands at the top of the backswing: HIGH. and DEEP, above his head and over his heels. Most amatuers have shorter arms, a much smaller arc, the hands are below the head and over the toes at the end of the backswing. You can't know this unless you video your swing
I played 9 holes this afternoon even though it was a bit chilly, 13 C/55 F, as it is late autumn in the South Island of NZ, with a cool easterly wind off the pacific ocean. I used the swing you demonstrated in your latest video and it was effortless. I scored 3 over par (39) and all 3 bogeys were due to going into greenside bunkers. I hit 6 out of 7 fairways and 6 out of 9 greens. The majority of my shots were straight, even with the driver, and it felt so easy. My only swing thought was to trace a circle during the swing. Bearing in mind I have never practiced with this swing I am thrilled with the results - I am extremely grateful.
That's spectacular George, and sounds like a great setting. When you missed, were the shots a "pulled" shot?
@@GolfTestDummy That's correct, all three bunkers were on the left side of the green. I put the pulled shots down to swinging too hard on those shots. I should also mention that regarding distance I was hitting the ball virtually the same length as I normally do, however I was more consistent with my ball striking. FYI I played the ball in the centre of my stance for the iron shots and half way between centre and my left heel for the driver. The only fairway that I missed was when I tried playing the driver off my left heel and I hit a fade/slice to the right which missed the fairway by 5 yards.
I had too much effort in my swing on course quite a few times. It's my habit.
Hey buddy what clubs r unwitting now ,thx great show
In my recent videos, I've got the Wilson Staff CB Forged.
Well I gotta say Sir, that opening shot and the thumbnail pic, which both are JUST DOWNRIGHT AWESOME, could have been the whole video and I would have been perfectly content with that. 😁
However, after having watched the whole video and reading through all the comments (as of me posting this), I will say the THWACK! alone tells the tale of very solid compression at impact. Your swing definitely still has that "GTD Swagger" at the top but all the elements are really coming into line and I think the results speak for themselves.
I'm very stoked for you and truly look forward to an on course video and an "After the round" analysis.
Remember, Golf is about having fun, becoming a better human being and to quote the immortal Ben Hogan, "The most important shot in Golf is THE NEXT ONE."
I feel this applies to Life as a whole.
Couldn't agree more Glen, and thanks. That wiggle at the top has been diminished in practice, but, spoiler alert, I had some swings on course where it came back. Ugh. But, at least I know why now, so I learned something.
@@GolfTestDummy
You know why you say...?
That's awesome!
I look forward to hearing about all of it.
Take care Sir and have a great week.
Taking the best from the best is often a recipe for disaster but in this instance, you have created yet another best... ;) Club head speed, (force) when under control (stability) equals good results and those are what count. Congrats on another success! Another key is increasing hand speed from the top and not at impact. Put that in your swing and then you will smoke it... lol
Ha! Funny you say that.... check out my latest video.
Darn it man! I think you find yourself a great swing. You remind me of an old computer I built when I was in my 20s, pieces from everywhere, radio shack, office depot, etc etc. Without a doubt he best computer I’ve ever had. A couple of years later a friend borrowed it for his business during the dot-com era in the 90s, he returned it after he made LOTS OF 💰, he wanted to get me a new one, no need. I still have it somewhere in the garage. 😁. Anyways if you want to mash something good for another project, look into Malaska (hands) and Lee Comeaux (turn, distance) to start. Great swing!
Thanks Jorge, and I can appreciate that super computer, even though I don't really get along well with them.... lol.
Can you do a video on setup walking through each step as you do it
I do intend to do that once I get it refined.
Well I think my guess was dead on the first time that you told me about the new swing. You have succeeded in counterbalancing all or most of the old flaws (which are all still there) by turning less each way and taking huge advantage of the hooding of your upper body for a covering effect and essentially hitting through the ball more. Less turn relative to the arm swing means less ground to "make up" in order to cover the ball (possibly more chest hooding going on then before) and square the face well. It's very far from textbook or even from the swings of the proponents of any of the systems that you invoked but it seems to work. I'd like to see long iron, 3-wood and driver numbers for it since I'd be curious in particular if your driver and 3-wood numbers improved.
There are some weird numbers coming off of the Garmin though (that's not new to this week), on one 8-iron swing 4390 spin, 111.8 ball speed off of 70.8 clubhead speed, giving 1.58 smash (should be impossible even for a driver). The 8-iron averages for the PGA tour are clubhead speed 87, ball speed 115, spin 7998, and smash of 1.32 (much more realistic for an 8-iron). So I'd like to get a sense of how this is really performing on a range or course or with a more accurate monitor but of course you can sense if you're hitting it better so, so far so good. Cheers.
Yeah, the fact that I involved multiple philosophies means that I'm not adhering to any of them, lol. Driver is longer. In the sim, it's up a few mph, and on courses yesterday, up about 12 to 15 yards on average. Had a few 8 irons on course. Both in the 165 range. 2 6 irons, 1 wasn't struck very well and was about 170 and lowww. The other 192 with no roll because it landed in a patch of fairway that was under repair. Definitely not perfect yet, and not automatic. More work to do. And on course, my effort levels were just too high.
@@GolfTestDummy Well 165 yard 8-iron and 192 6-iron are nothing to sneeze at especially if reasonably straight and consistent and neither is 15 yards give or take on your driver. A lot of players would kill for those results if it's with normal lofts.
You sound a little disappointed though. I'm guessing there was more effort than previously or did you just have expectations of effort levels going down significantly? What was causing so much effort?
Funny thing about what the Garmin is reading. I checked what it measures directly and speeds for both clubhead and ball are included and then it's a simple calculation of smash. But the smash doesn't compute at all for the 8-iron numbers (or probably any club) so I'm trying to figure that one out. And then it sounds like distances were not massively different on the course from the sim so I'm not sure how that works but at least however it's getting the numbers, they don't seem too off. Cheers.
The Garmin does have anamolies from time to time. Sometimes it says my driver clubhead speed is 82 lol. It's not often, but occasionally. Spin rates are calculated, not measured, so I never trust the spin rate.
Just curious do you still use Garmin for your simulator? If so how accurate do you believe the data is ?
I do, yes, and with it, I have learned what to pay attention to, and what to ignore, lol. Spin? Forget that. It calculates spin, it doesn't actually measure it. I watch ball speed and trajectory. Club head speed is pretty reliable, but I've caught it lying here and there. My average driver speed is about 95 and occasionally it'll read my speed at 82 or 84. This kind of stuff leads to inaccurate smash factor also sometimes, but not often. On course the other day, I was able to confirm some true yardages, which weren't far off. A few yards give or take. I track reality with Golfpad. Hit some 185 to 195 6 irons, 165 plus 8 irons, 250 plus drives.
It's your swing own it get out of your own way. You may just focus on level decending blow with irons on your arc in the sweet spot. Good luck with the driver it's all I can do is finish the arc but toe open or closed is easy ,catching it level is a whole different ballgame.You don't hear much about toe up or down but open or closed is pretty easy stuff.
Great stuff! It appears you are keeping your arms straight and just slinging that club through, then the rest of your body is responding.
I know you are not thinking of the consciously but when do you fell like stopping the backswing? It seems that you are not too worried about getting the back to the target, which most instructors stress, but if you over swing do it seems to zap power. Asking for a friend...
Haha, for a friend. Love that line. Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out the transition and "overswinging", which is my bad habit. I'll get it figured and keep you guys updated.
Leading with my left hand feels very weak to me.. But you're not the only person I've seen teach this. Porzak Golf is highly regarded and more or less teaches the left side is dominate. I need to test this some more.
I've found good stuff with both.
Rather than left hand backhand, try right hand forehand - hit with right side - a lot more powerful for a right hander
THE CIRCLE OF GOLF ... HOW I SWING MY CLUB AROUND ITS PURPOSE. by THE GOLF TEST DUMMY.
LOL ... You could write a great book showing all the steps you talk about in this video. You're the man, Chad ... keep it up =)
Thanks a ton George! Always great support from you.
Seriously … even a few pages outlining your approach could save many new, and not do new, golfers a lot of grief by taking advantage what you’ve already experienced.
Food for thought, yes?
I've thought about writing a book before. Still might. But it wouldn't be something that I'd classify as truly "instructional". Told more from a perspective like Andrew Zimmerman. Not a great chef, but knows food, and experiences a lot of different stuff and gets off the beaten path.
Kinda looks like Todd Graves but standing closer to the ball. Very good info !
Thanks CA!
Great video Chad! Possibly many of your viewers are thinking as I am, that this is sort of what I am doing now and it works for me. It is my own combination of influences from various coaches and it seems to get the ball where I want it. Maybe you can call it the "Short track swing", or ""Golf for Dummies" swing.
Haha, golf for dummies. I like that one. Thanks Kym.
Hi Chad you are doing coincidentally what Lee Comeaux Golf of C motion fame recently calls his lead side dominant swing with a reactive trail side. In his own words he could care less what his trail side is doing.
As for myself I prefer to care a lot about my trail side pushing me through my golf downswing and I could care less what my lead side pulling reactions are doing.
So you see we both have equally successful swing but clearly opposite of the other. Why? Because our human brain can either detect a pull or a push; but never both at the same time. Cheers 👍😃⛳️❤️🥂
Agreed. I have been both lead and trail dominant at different times, and been able to find relative success with both.
Hi again Chad.
Looking forward to seeing your dominant side golf swing.
Did you know the handle is the counterweight of the head of the golf club?
So I was wondering if you have ever thought of simply swinging the handle and how you might actually go about doing this? I think you did; but don’t recall what your comments were.
Cheers
trigger and take away ?
My mental trigger would be a reaction to my intent, that happens once I have it clear in my mind. Physically, a bit of a forward press and maybe a shift of the head a bit, turning away. My takeaway is pretty much a feel of drawing my left elbow pit up to my right shoulder.
WoW Chad, you doin great ! BTW add me again for that nice giveaway of that shirt. 🙈
Haha, no way I'd give this away!
That explanation sounds like the "Swing Surgeon's" explanation of a swing as well. When you are making a circle when swinging the circle DOES NOT GO BEHIND you at all, it's all in front.
I agree with that. If it gets behind me, it's off. I'm always trying to make a better, smoother, truer circle. I just need more work, lol.
So improvising. Mind blowing actually Chad. Combining the golf swing doctrines of each golf guru being named in this video to develop a golf swing of your own. It's so unique. This is really a golf swing lab of GTD for R&D. That leads me wondering how could all those goodies be in place (each part of your body) all the time whenever you swing the club. There are 14 in your bag.
Thanks CK. Like anything else, it's gonna take some time to get it all dialed in for me. All I've seen up to this point is a glimpse of how good I can be. Now I've gotta go work for the results to be there.
@@GolfTestDummy There you go, Chad. On a voyage to the unknown with that admirable self-confidence inside you. This is why an old man on the range said to me the other day that the golfing sport is a never finishing job. There is always room to improve. For each and every golfer universally and individually. It's a game challenge never goes out of style, regardless of the advancing golf club and ball design technologies. And that actually keeps the game of golf exciting all the time.
Throw some Mike Malaska moves in there.
Did u sit and watch a colin McCarthy insta live chat vid yet??
I havent seen him live. But I did watch quite a few of his posts. Good stuff, and I love that his swing isn't textbook.
@@GolfTestDummy have to listen to live seshs fo shore. His swing is because of injurys. Its all about you golf body type. /limitations etc
I'll keep watch for them.
I see you are still using the 10 finger grip.
Yes sir. Tried going back. Not working for me lol.
@@GolfTestDummy can you give a list of what your distances are with the irons and woods?
I will once I get the swing stabilized and final. At this point, it's still a bit too new.
Sorry hitting
I think you have officially broke the code. It’s time to start advising on UA-cam to sell a $49 dvd and a $9 monthly subscription. Jokes aside, are you trying to make a circle with your arm, hands Or the club? Are you paying attention at all on the low point? U say u are swinging your left arm, so ur right arm are just on there for the ride? How strong or weak is your grip? Same great result with the 3w off the deck or driver?
Great questions. Just to be clear though, I don't think I'll be making DVDs, lol. I just ask that you watch and interact. My left shoulder gives me ball position for now. Low point is absolute key. It governs everything. I'm feeling my circle during setup, over and over, and place the low point. When I make my circle, the swing is built so that I can think of my arm, hand, club, or club head. Since my arm, shaft, and club head are on a straight line, it doesn't matter what I focus on, so it gives flexibility in what I draw the circle with.