Joey Jordison x Jay Weinberg x Eloy Casagrande - disasterpiece - drum cam comparison.

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  • @Overstreett
    @Overstreett 3 місяці тому +586

    Slipknot never chose wrong drummer, respect joey, jay & eloy 🔥

    • @mewsick5093
      @mewsick5093 3 місяці тому +8

      Great assessment!

    • @streamspoart2671
      @streamspoart2671 3 місяці тому +24

      Slipknot is the luckiest band, always got a great drummer

    • @Renan_Toledo
      @Renan_Toledo 3 місяці тому +5

      O melhor comentário sobre O assunto... 3 Maravilhosos bateristas. Cada um em seu estilo...
      Brasileiro entende muito de metal, e tem fans loucos como todos os artistas renomados do mundo. Dizer que Jay nao tem qualidade é realmente uma grande hipocrisia de extremos.
      Joey (RIP) TOP DEMAIS, Jay fera demais e Eloy muito fodaaaaa

    • @vladtheimpaler7878
      @vladtheimpaler7878 3 місяці тому +5

      Jay was not a replacement, just an inferior option. Eloy is a true successor to Joey.

    • @fr0zeNstriKe
      @fr0zeNstriKe 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@vladtheimpaler7878just got drummer of the year multiple time but yeah inferior 😂

  • @Maggot377
    @Maggot377 3 місяці тому +815

    Each of them played it in their own unique way, but don’t forget that Joey created this groove

    • @Jasonxknot
      @Jasonxknot 3 місяці тому +51

      Groove. That's the word I was looking for. Joey definitely had that groove. He was the only one out of the 3 that you can feel that groove. He was feeling that song with his soul. Jay was playing too fast and looked like he was struggling. Eloy was amazing, but to me it seems like he's focusing on perfection. Makes sense since it was one of his first shows with the band. I bet a year from now he's going to have that groove with it that Joey had.

    • @marceloferreira153
      @marceloferreira153 3 місяці тому +6

      Imagina se fosse o Eloy que tivesse criado? Mais joy e encrivel

    • @Nicktolias
      @Nicktolias 3 місяці тому +28

      If you didn't "see" this performance, only heard it as isolated drum tracks, Eloy is much more tasty and groovy, his ghost notes make it feel so full. This audio of Eloy wasn't even going through the soundboard!

    • @jacobdesmond2479
      @jacobdesmond2479 3 місяці тому +28

      @@Jasonxknotthere’s no way u just said Eloy doesn’t have the groove, did you even listen to it?

    • @Jasonxknot
      @Jasonxknot 3 місяці тому +14

      @jacobdesmond2479 Yeah, I did listen to it. My comment wouldn't make any sense if I didnt. Did you listen to it? It's pretty apparent that Joey is playing with feeling and soul and Eloy is trying to be as precise as possible. Maybe you have to be a musician to hear it and maybe you arent one, but there's a slight difference there. You can not only hear it, you cant see as well. Joey has a groove to it that the others dont. Eloy just started performing live with him. Give him a year and he's going to be playing this as if he wrote it. There's always a difference between the person who wrote it vs the person who's trying to play it.

  • @RenBobbins
    @RenBobbins 3 місяці тому +126

    Eloy is a savage, but Joey is the originator of the part, and he wrote some of the best drum books metal has ever seen.

    • @drope-14
      @drope-14 3 місяці тому +5

      wait for those to come. Eloy Era

  • @BagsNBags
    @BagsNBags 3 місяці тому +573

    Eloy casually allowed Slipknot to join his band.

  • @pareanoapicard8079
    @pareanoapicard8079 3 місяці тому +276

    Am I the only one who think that the next Slipknot's album with Eloy will be INSANE !?
    Can't wait !

    • @puppetmaster8551
      @puppetmaster8551 3 місяці тому +7

      Eloy rules he’s a fantastic drummer but as far as writing drums in slipknot I don’t think he’ll ever match the awesome drums Joey wrote even if they’re more technically impressive. Jay’s writing on we are not your kind was pretty damn great too so if Eloy writes drums that sound as good on record as those I’ll be happy. Live he’ll most likely go down as the best drummer in slipknot just because I think he’ll consistently play the drums at the right tempo all the time, Joey is an absolute legend but there were alot of times back in the day where he’d be rushing and playing the drums too fast which would speed the songs up a bunch. he’ll likely always be unmatched on record tho because of how iconic his drums in slipknot were.

    • @mau9175
      @mau9175 3 місяці тому

      @@puppetmaster8551 just listen to "Quadra", the Sepultura album composed by Eloy. if you're a drummer or does know the very minimum of drumming, you'll probably change your mind on that. it doesn't have to be a competition, but eloy is a great composer.

    • @NotDeluded
      @NotDeluded 3 місяці тому +2

      I reckon (hope) it'll be as hardcore as IOWA.

    • @Adixon5
      @Adixon5 Місяць тому +1

      Doubt it. The band that made the earlier records is no more. The rage is gone

    • @FumBingerer
      @FumBingerer 27 днів тому +1

      @@NotDeludedpeople say this every album cycle hahaha. They were like 28, far from wealthy and fucked up on drugs. They’re now rich, old, comfy and theatrical. There’s no way.

  • @marcuskrueger2965
    @marcuskrueger2965 3 місяці тому +346

    The way each one plays is unique... But Joey and Eloy are superhumans

    • @jkorkea
      @jkorkea 3 місяці тому +10

      all are tbh

    • @puppetmaster8551
      @puppetmaster8551 3 місяці тому +4

      Joey is a legend and an OG and he gets all the props in the world for writing it which matters the most but he also would speed up the tempo pretty often, Jay wouldn’t do it as often imo and Eloy likely won’t ever rush it unless intentional. That being said I doubt anyone will ever write better drums for slipknot than Joey, his drum parts were legendary, I do think Jay’s drums on we are not your kind were really awesome tho so if Eloy writes drums as good as those I’ll be really happy, live he’s likely the best of them but we will just have to wait and see what his written drums for them sound like

    • @marcuskrueger2965
      @marcuskrueger2965 3 місяці тому +1

      @@puppetmaster8551 Yes, that's quiet the thing. I love Eloy's drumming for his instrumental duo and for Sepultura, but we gotta see how this is gonna work with Slipknot. Joey kept mastering awesome grooves that were easily digested when he got another bands, like Scar the Martyr, Sinsaenum and VIMIC

    • @puppetmaster8551
      @puppetmaster8551 3 місяці тому

      @@marcuskrueger2965 ya forsure, I’m definitely very interested in hearing drums Eloy writes in slipknot, definitely most what I’m looking forward to when it comes to new slipknot, really high bar tho with Joey’s amazing drums in slipknot and even Jay on we are not your kind was pretty damn great.

    • @mikedownen3962
      @mikedownen3962 Місяць тому +1

      Once Max and Igor left the band it was over in '96

  • @Akercaleb2017
    @Akercaleb2017 2 місяці тому +13

    All 3 of these men are great drummers. They all deserve respect for the contribution they gave or are giving to the band.

  • @404breno
    @404breno 3 місяці тому +1031

    Joey showed us which notes should be played but Eloy is showing us HOW those notes should be played... damn

    • @x_peixe_x
      @x_peixe_x 3 місяці тому +25

      Perfect comment man!

    • @henriquejuliano8517
      @henriquejuliano8517 3 місяці тому +2

      Brilhante

    • @moisesluciana9257
      @moisesluciana9257 3 місяці тому +12

      @@henriquejuliano8517,Joey Jordison o melhor.

    • @YuriHisokaa
      @YuriHisokaa 3 місяці тому +22

      And Jay how not to play

    • @schopenhauer5427
      @schopenhauer5427 3 місяці тому +30

      ​@@YuriHisokaadisagree. Jay did a great job, just not of the same quality

  • @rafaelricharddd
    @rafaelricharddd 4 місяці тому +666

    eloy is an atomic bomb

    • @saw66690
      @saw66690 3 місяці тому +2

      ананана

    • @Cooked_As
      @Cooked_As 3 місяці тому +3

      Chuck Norris of metal

  • @MaxwellSmart21
    @MaxwellSmart21 3 місяці тому +867

    Eloy is the only one who respects the times of the original tracks, metronome man 🤘🤘

    • @marcusking8507
      @marcusking8507 3 місяці тому +69

      He's also the grooviest drummer of the three.

    • @hell4punk
      @hell4punk 3 місяці тому +19

      The other two previous drummers also respected the tempo, at least in these clips. They played all the same. The only difference between them is the energy they put on it.

    • @MBCMSPR
      @MBCMSPR 3 місяці тому +82

      @@hell4punkno definetely not. eloy pretty much played like joey, but some added ghost notes and hits harder. jay had inconcistent tempo, tried covering up poor double bass stamina with obnoxious amount of fills, sloppy playing and uses triggers because of poor stamina and power. joey and eloy are wayy out of his league. jay sure can drum, but there's definetely room for improvement.

    • @brunomunoz467
      @brunomunoz467 3 місяці тому +33

      ​@@MBCMSPR you totally forget that Joey also used triggers, and Jay was way better than Joey was during the AHIG years of slipknot (mostly because of joey sickness but still). But Eloy is 100% the best one of the 3

    • @MBCMSPR
      @MBCMSPR 3 місяці тому +18

      @@brunomunoz467 right. but earlier, before his sickness and before he triggered his drumset, he was a beast. i'll admit that eloy is better; on a technical level atleast. but jay is far from joey in his prime. FAR. i'd say jay is a pretty solid writer and making music. but on a technical level, he's not even good. he lacks on so many departments, it's actually a shame he even joined slipknot. really hope they do some heavy shit with eloy though. i swear if they make like a grey chapter album with eloy, i'm gonna be so disappointed lol

  • @chrisdakers3688
    @chrisdakers3688 3 місяці тому +44

    Joey's movement was just effortless.

    • @DrippUP
      @DrippUP Місяць тому +1

      thats what i notice the most is that for Joey he just moves different...almost like hes not even trying - in a good way.

    • @pepopulos
      @pepopulos Місяць тому +1

      Joey's doing it calmy and smoothly, Jay added some slightly different techniques (he's flamming more, etc.), Eloy is going absolutely nuts into it, his movements aren't as smooth, yes, but he still retains the precision, even whilst absolutely denolishing the drumkit

  • @rerolf5007
    @rerolf5007 3 місяці тому +271

    Eloy is the only one that uses ghost notes! Which makes the song way better, in my opinion!

    • @or1on89
      @or1on89 3 місяці тому +15

      No, it doesn't. I honestly think these ghost notes kill the brutality of the original piece which was ment to be a wall of sound. This is NuMetal, not jazz.

    • @Scottysevins
      @Scottysevins 3 місяці тому +11

      Haha he’s the only one powerful enough to be able to hear it over the band. No disrespect to Joey as he’s the godfather

    • @YTCortes
      @YTCortes 3 місяці тому +26

      @@or1on89 groove metal

    • @ThreeFortySeven
      @ThreeFortySeven 3 місяці тому +3

      I caught that too. Interesting choice.

    • @captainDL3
      @captainDL3 3 місяці тому +10

      Joey was playing them too, but you cant hear it because his velocity is more like ghost notes in a Toto song. Eloy hits hard AF & you can hear his ghosts notes.
      Weinberg is good….but his parts lack dynamic. They all melt together & theres no punctuation between riffs.

  • @ericfrossardcarvalho7505
    @ericfrossardcarvalho7505 4 місяці тому +400

    I respect a lot both other drummers but I really like Eloy because we can hear every single note played by him.

    • @thearchetypecrimes
      @thearchetypecrimes 3 місяці тому +57

      You can hear every note because his cam is the only one with the drums isolated like that. Lol😂

    • @TheMetalFreshTiger
      @TheMetalFreshTiger 3 місяці тому +16

      In this way you’re liking how the video has been recorded… not the actual drummer

    • @edgardelcid8425
      @edgardelcid8425 3 місяці тому +1

      Eloy can play as fast but hit a Lot harder, one of a kind, all of them are great tho

    • @JuanTwoThreeeeeee
      @JuanTwoThreeeeeee 3 місяці тому +7

      Even outside of Eloy’s drum cam on the regular concert videos, it’s clear as day that he his hitting every note on the proper flow/timing

    • @ericfrossardcarvalho7505
      @ericfrossardcarvalho7505 3 місяці тому +5

      Please check Jays cam that the notes he is playing it not well played mixing the sounds in a bad way. Pay attention to the fills. I am not talking about the quality of the sound.

  • @xoxo666
    @xoxo666 3 місяці тому +132

    As a non-drummer's opinion:
    Joey: The creator, the goat, no Jay or Eloy without Joey
    Jay: Fast (imo, the reason he was out and maybe attitude but only the band can tell). Clearly puts a punk / hardcore vibe and they're no denying Jay's love for that genre.
    Eloy: Precision, Strong, OG tempo

    • @jkorkea
      @jkorkea 3 місяці тому +3

      speed can't be the reason lol, Jay can play the speed they want to play, he's a professional drummer

    • @xoxo666
      @xoxo666 3 місяці тому +16

      @@jkorkea From what I read on Reddit (unchecked facts of course), drum tech said he struggled live. The reason I'm saying speed is the problem is I read (once again, unproved) is a source of frustration for the others who must keep up to his speed and Corey who's 50 and still a beast, it's probably demanding a lot for him as well as the guitar players. Also, I see a lot of comments about Eloy playing the right tempo of the original songs and songs are heavier during breakdown when played at slower tempo so it just shows Jay plays faster. Don't get me wrong, I love Jay and he got me back into Slipknot in 2014 and I thought a young guy could give the energy back to the band.

    • @blacksaturn_
      @blacksaturn_ 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@xoxo666 I don't think speed is the reason, if it really was he could have just played with a metronome and if it really was, he would have been out YEARS ago.
      I believe someone in Slipknot stated that they purposefully play songs faster during live shows because it gives them a more "raw" feeling and also because it allows them to have a longer setlist and hype the crowd better.
      I saw them in Verona in 2022 and I can say that NO ONE was struggling there to follow Jay.
      To each their own:
      Joey was the creator and who inspired me to pick a drumset and beat the living shit out of it for the past 10 years or so (I am not that great sigh).
      Jay had that "mojo" that gave a truly unique feeling to each song he played live, even if it wasn't note for note (for which I couldn't care less, I care about the music in general, not the parts), even if it wasn't at perfect tempo (neither Joey was! just go listen to Vol. 3, you can hear the best his fluctuations in "Pulse Of The Maggots").
      Eloy has incredibile power, precision and feeling. I want to hear more of him in Slipknot.
      All three are incredible drummers, who had (and have) one of the most difficult roles in the music industry (it isn't exactly easy to be Slipknot's drummer) and all three should be credited for what they've done and will do.

    • @xoxo666
      @xoxo666 3 місяці тому +1

      @@blacksaturn_ I get what you mean! And I feel you man! Joey inspired me in some weird way. I thought for a short guy, he's one badass MF! The weird dance that he does etc! Never really played drums but I would, he's be my #1 inspiration. I stopped listening to Slipknot around 2007 because I discovered the hardcore/deathcore scene. I had tears when I heard Joey passed and I was in sushi restaurant parking lot haha.
      Jay: I was intrigued by that young guy! I thought he was awesome and gave life back to Slipknot along with V-Man! I started listening to Slipknot with .5 The Gray Chapter
      Eloy: Although I'm sad Jay is gone, the comments I saw for Eloy kind of hyped me up! But I gotta admit I never heard anything about him when he was in Sepultura. Can't wait to see what he will bring!

    • @blacksaturn_
      @blacksaturn_ 3 місяці тому +2

      @@xoxo666 glad you get me hahahah! I didn't hear much from Eloy either but what I heard absolutely blew me away at the time, I'm talking about "Isolation" by Sepultura, if you haven't go watch the Behind The Scenes and the playthrough by Eloy, the sheer power and creativity he puts behind the kit is faboulous, I guess the creativity comes from the fact that he's Brazilian and Brazilian music (which is INSANELY HARD to play on drums) is very different from typical western music. I hope we'll get not just heavier records but more creative ones, TESF felt overall stale and uninspired...

  • @Pandamorey
    @Pandamorey 3 місяці тому +27

    There is no Jay or Eloy without Joey. Respect the goat 🐐

    • @carlosdelgado6897
      @carlosdelgado6897 2 місяці тому +1

      Was the GOAT that’s past this moment on its Eloy time you will hear it

    • @mikedownen3962
      @mikedownen3962 Місяць тому +2

      You have to respect the original band member because he's the one that came up with half the songs and they want to disrespect him That's a shame on them

    • @LuxferoBR
      @LuxferoBR Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂 Eloy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joey

    • @LuxferoBR
      @LuxferoBR Місяць тому +1

      There is no Jay without Iggor Cavallera / Sepultura & groove/tribal metal

    • @Pandamorey
      @Pandamorey Місяць тому +1

      @LuxferoBR exactly the point I was trying to make, thank you!

  • @50ULL355_music_gaming
    @50ULL355_music_gaming 3 місяці тому +16

    Joey made it looks easy, Jay made it sounds easy, Eloy just never easy. Love them all, but for some reason, I love Jay's kicks.

    • @carlosdelgado6897
      @carlosdelgado6897 2 місяці тому +1

      Joey seems made it easy? He was a great drummer bo doubt but if you can’t see can’t hear the power speed precision of Eloy the effortless he and with that power and not see his greatness as the best drummer atm perhaps OF ALL TIME then you are blind and deft

    • @50ULL355_music_gaming
      @50ULL355_music_gaming 2 місяці тому

      @@carlosdelgado6897 you don't understand don't you sweetie. i said looks easy. looks easy because he was a good drummer and his skill just beyond everyone else. Jay drum line more simple but precise. and eloy are the hardcore beater. Did i said Joey/jay/eloy suck? read and understand it properly before you think i'm wrong. have a nice day.

    • @carlosdelgado6897
      @carlosdelgado6897 2 місяці тому

      @@50ULL355_music_gaming no seems you don’t want to see the reality Eloy is a freak of nature
      Also I didn’t say any of them sucks learn to read
      Eloy it’s stratosphere way above than those 2

  • @davidalmeida9171
    @davidalmeida9171 4 місяці тому +266

    All respect for Joey & Jay, but Eloy, man, this guy is so freaking special, for me he’s top 1 drummer of the world at all time 🔥 🔥🔥

    • @turbomunch
      @turbomunch 3 місяці тому +19

      Joey wrote the drum beat ffs. Show something they create. Imitators.

    • @pethuretto2844
      @pethuretto2844 3 місяці тому +21

      @@turbomunch search sepultura drum riffs bro lol

    • @EloyBushida
      @EloyBushida 3 місяці тому +7

      @@turbomunch Listen to Quadra, Eloy is an amazing composer as well as player. Lars wrote Dyers Eve drum parts, but he can't fucking play them.

    • @schopenhauer5427
      @schopenhauer5427 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@turbomunchboth Eloy and Jay created great drum pieces

    • @MunkeyBeans1082
      @MunkeyBeans1082 3 місяці тому +2

      Joey makes it look easier. He also wrote everything. He's the embodiment of the band

  • @lukaspersson447
    @lukaspersson447 3 місяці тому +272

    Joey seems almost unbothered and hit hard as hell without even breaking a sweat. Plus he wrote this beat so I don't think that he ever felt like he had something to prove. Watching Jay now after Eloy took over makes it very very clear why Jay was replaced. Eloy is a hard hitting insanely good timing plus he adds the little extra magic and power using incredible ghost notes. It's very apparent in Eloys drumming that he looked up to Joey as a kid, like a lot of metal drummers did. I like to think that Joey is proud of Slipknots decision to honor his legacy with Eloy.
    Edit:
    Man.. This comment section seems to be 12 year olds.. Joey has been the one who put all of us old guys on to slipknot in the first place. The lyrics are shit and guitars is just buried of noice. Slipknot became famous with the phrase “have you heard of Joey Jordison?”. Stop being pathetic kids. Eloy is the best but Joey is legend.

    • @pedrocamargo6136
      @pedrocamargo6136 3 місяці тому +14

      Eloy has been a Slipknot fan since he was a teenager, it's obvious that he looks up to Joey, and playing with Slipknot is a dream come true for him.

    • @jcmo187
      @jcmo187 3 місяці тому +24

      Joey was a hell of a drum line writer. One thing he was NOT was a hard hitter. He hit very, very lightly. The "booming" you heard from his drumming was because of triggers.

    • @marcusking8507
      @marcusking8507 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@jcmo187His ace in the pack was speed, as opposed to power. You can't do the rolls he could on the snare by being a caveman.

    • @jcmo187
      @jcmo187 3 місяці тому +19

      @@marcusking8507 except Eloy does. I've been a huge fan of him for years. He's just as fast if not faster than Joey and much more precise. Joey's biggest strength was writing. His drum parts are super rememberable. You can name a bunch of his songs just from the drums.

    • @marcusking8507
      @marcusking8507 3 місяці тому +7

      @@jcmo187 Joey had that Dave Lombardo-esque "falling down the stairs" feel to his playing, like it was all about to fall apart at any moment. I'm still wowed by some of his playing on Iowa, for instance.
      Eloy is pretty damn impressive though, and he loves ghost notes, which are always, always a plus with me.

  • @rikkiwilliams720
    @rikkiwilliams720 3 місяці тому +35

    The first time I saw Eloy Casagrande with Slipknot, I was blown away by his playing. Eloy is the perfect drummer for Slipknot and I'm so glad he's in Slipknot. He is doing a great job!!!

  • @nick_coles_art
    @nick_coles_art 3 місяці тому +27

    Eloys ghost notes 😍. He's brutal, clean and groovy all at the same time. What a beast. Bring on their new album. I'm gonna blow my speakers dude.

  • @filipepaivazoega3669
    @filipepaivazoega3669 3 місяці тому +175

    Eloy doesn't need a metronome.
    Metronome needs Eloy.

    • @clovenzpsn8811
      @clovenzpsn8811 3 місяці тому +3

      This comment was better the first time it was used in other Eloy videos🙄

    • @filipepaivazoega3669
      @filipepaivazoega3669 3 місяці тому +1

      @@clovenzpsn8811 Like I care how triggered you are by that comment, lmao

  • @paulobarrosogt9935
    @paulobarrosogt9935 3 місяці тому +59

    Não tem como, Eloy destrói a bateria como se não houvesse amanhã ave Maria!

  • @andrebatalha3384
    @andrebatalha3384 3 місяці тому +115

    Eloy has the sauce😂

  • @VileSinner666
    @VileSinner666 3 місяці тому +26

    Joey wrote the song, and plays is fabulously of course. Jay plays it fast, and I like a lot of the extra fills he adds. Eloy plays fast and hard. All 3 brought something new to the song.

    • @Lady_Boy_
      @Lady_Boy_ 3 місяці тому +2

      he adds extra fills because he doesn't have the stamina to keep the song the way it should be played.

    • @VileSinner666
      @VileSinner666 3 місяці тому +2

      @Lady_Boy_ All depends on the song. I've seen him play Me Inside, and Metabolic without adding extra fills. Even Joey did the same thing from time to time. Part of Slipknot's charm bro. Eloy even adds extra fills to songs.

    • @Lady_Boy_
      @Lady_Boy_ 3 місяці тому

      @@VileSinner666 ok

    • @MarkJusti
      @MarkJusti 3 місяці тому +4

      He adds extra fills so he can hide the sloppiness of his double bass. I’ve seen his version of Disasterpieces whole and he was all over the place. No wonder Slipknot kicked him out.

    • @VileSinner666
      @VileSinner666 3 місяці тому +2

      @MarkJusti Jay's never been perfect at double bass, no doubt about it. He has good days and bad days. Same with Joey. Sometimes he can nail it, other times he does fills to hide it. It's all about being human.

  • @marc-antoineethier1862
    @marc-antoineethier1862 3 місяці тому +26

    I know you guys love Eloy but for me Joey was the spirit of Slipknot . He was also the underdog in the early 2000’s and now for me he is the goat !!!!

    • @DiegoToy
      @DiegoToy 3 місяці тому +1

      you're right, Joey was the spirit of the band. Great technical drummers can play and, eventually improve the songs, but Joey was original. Now we have to wait for new stuff to see how Eloy will increase the Slipknot legacy

    • @marc-antoineethier1862
      @marc-antoineethier1862 3 місяці тому

      @@DiegoToy 2024 for new songs ? Hope so !!

  • @36SOAD817HMC
    @36SOAD817HMC 3 місяці тому +32

    all respects to joey . jay is way to casual with it . eloy just brings everything back to life

  • @gabrielamendes1381
    @gabrielamendes1381 4 місяці тому +22

    Eloy sendo um ogro na batera, mas da melhor forma possível! A agressividade traz bastante presença de palco

  • @buitenzorg8169
    @buitenzorg8169 3 місяці тому +24

    NO ONE CAN BEAT THE ORIGINAL
    -JOEY 🤟

    • @marcioangst893
      @marcioangst893 3 місяці тому +1

      Eloy does not overcome, but honors the legacy

    • @carlosdelgado6897
      @carlosdelgado6897 2 місяці тому

      Records meant to be broken he was the original and props to him but oh man
      Eloy it’s a freak of nature

    • @buitenzorg8169
      @buitenzorg8169 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@carlosdelgado6897 Lol joey play with soul, his play remain in our memory,
      Eloy just play Joey part with robotic sound 🤣

    • @carlosdelgado6897
      @carlosdelgado6897 2 місяці тому

      @@buitenzorg8169 say whatever you want the reality it’s only 1 Joey it’s the past great drummer but the better of the 2 it’s Eloy plain and simple

    • @Ultradocker
      @Ultradocker Місяць тому

      @@carlosdelgado6897 he is good, but he's playing covers. Joey wrote all these songs.

  • @thetiger7474
    @thetiger7474 3 місяці тому +14

    Aside from drumming skills, I think Joey's performance was well designed, including headbanging, stick tricks, body movements, etc. He mixed those moves naturally into his drumming. He must have spent time deliberately practicing those moves to make them so natural while playing that kind of high-level drumming. If you play drums, you know how hard it is to do some cool shit and play difficult notes at the same time. In a way you can even say that the "difficult" songs are easy enough for him to do those shit.

    • @bmjames
      @bmjames 3 місяці тому

      I'm not a drummer but Joey gave the impression of being very in control of his body movements whereas Jay seems to need to move more just to get around the kit. Eloy is less theatrical than Joey, more raw power, still extremely controlled to an almost superhuman level of consistency.

  • @TTTspeedcubing
    @TTTspeedcubing 2 місяці тому +4

    Eloy is an amazing drummer, one of the best, but Joey is the best drummer in history and no one can replace him. Rest in peace, legend 🙏🙏🙏

    • @Xposthmous
      @Xposthmous 2 місяці тому

      Neil Peart is the greatest drummer in history. Don't forget that.

  • @HellRag3
    @HellRag3 3 місяці тому +4

    All of them are awesome. All of them has their own style. Joey was a creator of this tracks. Jay was super-technique, and Eloy is also cool. There is no “better and worse “. Slipknot doesn’t choose bad drummers. Slipknot’s drummers always are more than humans. Respect each of them.

  • @Roblecitoboulder
    @Roblecitoboulder 3 місяці тому +7

    Joey Jordison: espectáculo, creador, pegada, tempo bien, técnicamente bueno.
    Jay: apasionado, tempo irregular, desequilibrado en la dinámica de los golpes.
    Eloy: espectacular, pegada uniforme y fuerte, dominio y definición absoluta de las ghost notes, tempo perfecto, hace estar a la banda en su sitio, técnicamente de otro planeta.

  • @iponkers666
    @iponkers666 3 місяці тому +2

    Joey is the best because he create this style..and he is first drummer when Slipknot famous carrier..we loved because Joey the Legend Slipknot drummer...

  • @SigurdFlaatten
    @SigurdFlaatten 3 місяці тому +2

    Eloy doing the blasts with rimshots is just out of this world. Excited to see them live with him - I think it'll be back to the Joey days of energy with the breakdowns being SO hard and on the OG pace

  • @Sacerdote74
    @Sacerdote74 3 місяці тому +125

    Jay 🔥🔥👋👋
    Joey 🔥🔥🔥👋👋👋
    Eloy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆👋👋👋👋👋

  • @MrLustor
    @MrLustor 3 місяці тому +11

    Jay's tempo is messed up. I noticed that from the begging but everyone seemed to be in denial.
    Now that I hear Eloy's playing I guess I wasn't that crazy!

    • @TerryGreat-c6p
      @TerryGreat-c6p 3 місяці тому

      Yeah jay always played most of the songs to fast, therefore speeding up the rest of the band, making the song sound rushed compared to clean

  • @nickbornahell2118
    @nickbornahell2118 3 місяці тому +1

    Joey is a one! The only! He was the embodiment of sincerity, of desperate humanity! 🤘♾️🕊️

  • @Panoras81
    @Panoras81 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m sure that many drummers may can play all this wonderful slipknot songs but only one has created all their grooves. RIP Joey.

  • @GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n
    @GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n 3 місяці тому +34

    That ghost note..... Eloy is a beast

    • @eriicgiese
      @eriicgiese 3 місяці тому

      What it means "ghost notes"?

    • @GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n
      @GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n 3 місяці тому +3

      @@eriicgiese the weak note between the strong note on the snare at minute 2:33 you can hear it better

    • @GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n
      @GustavoMartinsdosSantos-x4n 3 місяці тому

      @@eriicgiese he uses this technique while maintaining intensity. this is quite challenging

  • @pablosrf3881
    @pablosrf3881 3 місяці тому +28

    Jay varies the timing of his hits too much in comparison to Joey and Eloy. Joey has an amazing timing but Eloy beats him in both timing, precision and dynamics (or should I say strenght?).

    • @Implicit_Truth
      @Implicit_Truth 3 місяці тому +3

      Eloy is a better drummer in practical terms. Joey however has the benefit of having written so much iconic music and was himself also an amazing drummer when he was healthy. So while I think Eloy is the better drummer, I don't think he's the better musician.

    • @pablosrf3881
      @pablosrf3881 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Implicit_Truth Eloy is an increadible composer. He has mastered a lot of drumming styles. I belive that in the next slipknot album if he has space to let his creativity out then he will prove his name next to Joey's composition.

    • @MBCMSPR
      @MBCMSPR 3 місяці тому +1

      @@pablosrf3881i hope that slipknot will make heavy shit with eloy though. i've heard rumours about the new album being really different from all the others. idk what to expect. i really hope they'll make something heavy. can't get a drummer like eloy and make another grey chapter album

    • @p00piter
      @p00piter 3 місяці тому

      Your should say, Strength. Not strenght

  • @charlesscott2918
    @charlesscott2918 3 місяці тому +14

    If It Wasn't For Joey Jordison !! There Wouldn't Be A Slipknot !! Jay Weinberg And Eloy Casagrande Are Great Drummers In Their Own Way !! R.I.P Joey Jordison 😢🕊🦅🏞🇦🇷🙏🏽🤟🏾💙♾️🥁🎼

  • @richardm3780
    @richardm3780 3 місяці тому +1

    This made me audibly say, "wow" ... thank you for this comparison. 3 different styles, Joey will always be the goat... but Eloy has sure lived up to the task...exceedingly.

  • @Jasonxknot
    @Jasonxknot 3 місяці тому +29

    Jay looks like he's struggling the entire time. Joey and Eloy make it look effortless. One thing you need to factor in is Eloy has only performed live with Slipknot a few times. He's just going to get better with every performance.

  • @mingotower123
    @mingotower123 2 місяці тому +1

    Yes Joey and Jay are great drummers, but the Energy that Eloy plays with is just what any band needs! Eloy Is a Complete drumming Beast!!!

  • @marcusking8507
    @marcusking8507 3 місяці тому +24

    Eloy's ghost notes on the snare are fucking tasty.

  • @Medievalfan94
    @Medievalfan94 3 місяці тому +34

    Minus points on Eloy for not having long hair to whirl around and a mask that looks like from a toyshop.

    • @dickyadler3959
      @dickyadler3959 3 місяці тому +1

      maybe next event he will wear a wig 😂🤣

    • @alquimiavibracional
      @alquimiavibracional 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@dickyadler3959 ou talvez no próximo comentário, ele se abstenha

    • @MBCMSPR
      @MBCMSPR 3 місяці тому

      maybe he'll join corey and tortilla on dreads lol

    • @GuilhermeTeixeira
      @GuilhermeTeixeira 3 місяці тому

      O verdadeiro metal escandinavo não aceita os carecas

    • @Medievalfan94
      @Medievalfan94 3 місяці тому

      @@GuilhermeTeixeira Slipknot no son de scandinavia sino de Iowa

  • @Abinaraone
    @Abinaraone 3 місяці тому +7

    Eloy with that tasty ghost notes 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @rynoriffs6505
    @rynoriffs6505 3 місяці тому +4

    ELOY BEATS THOSE DRUMS LIKE THEY MURDERED HIS FAMILY. THE BPM CONTROL, FEEL, POWER, SPEED AND BRUTALITY IS ALL ON DISPLAY, ELOY=BEAST ❤🤘🏽

  • @MarkJusti
    @MarkJusti 3 місяці тому +39

    you can see that Jay is struggling with keeping the pace of the double bass parts so that’s why he replaces them with fills in the end. 😂

    • @CREA9TURE
      @CREA9TURE 3 місяці тому +13

      So bad. He's all over the place

    • @ashleighwilson3637
      @ashleighwilson3637 3 місяці тому +1

      And here we are in the comments haha

    • @suominekru476
      @suominekru476 3 місяці тому +1

      this is really good rage bait

  • @poisonedsprite6254
    @poisonedsprite6254 3 місяці тому +15

    Joey will forever be #1, Eloy is only imitating what Joey wrote and did.

    • @BobbyBottleservice
      @BobbyBottleservice 3 місяці тому

      but 100x more aggressive and accurate. joey hit like a pussy eloy's sticks go over his head every single strike and he's just as technical.

    • @ednaldopereira5592
      @ednaldopereira5592 3 місяці тому +13

      Você está errado, Eloy está tocando o que Joey fez mil vezes melhor
      Total respeito ao Joey, mas ele era mais limitado que o Eloy

    • @MetallicOpeth
      @MetallicOpeth 3 місяці тому +1

      "only". give him some props at least holy shit. he's paying tribute to the original sound and ideas, and playing it absolutely flawlessly. don't write it off as "only imitating"

    • @poisonedsprite6254
      @poisonedsprite6254 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ednaldopereira5592 Sorry buddy, Joey can't hear you over the sound of his multi platinum records he wrote and performed on.

    • @buitenzorg8169
      @buitenzorg8169 3 місяці тому

      💯 Eloy just lack of creativity

  • @momenmazen7994
    @momenmazen7994 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro watching joey is like watching a legend at his prime like watching aryton Senna's race i cant get enough of Joey's performance at the breakdown moment ❤❤

  • @АлексейПирогов-ц8ь
    @АлексейПирогов-ц8ь 3 місяці тому +4

    Видео кайф, НО!!! Нельзя сравнивать мастерство или кто лучше сыграл, тот или иной трек, так как даже приравном мастерстве, у каждого последующего драмера есть возможность изучить материал предыдущего, доработать и сделать ещë лучше... По мне все великие,,, Всем удачи и драйва🤘

  • @danglesnipecelly13
    @danglesnipecelly13 3 місяці тому +2

    Eloy is something else! Unreal power! His timing is so on fckn point.

  • @themechaniacal1558
    @themechaniacal1558 3 місяці тому +4

    This really shouldn't be seen as a comparison of who is better, Joey wrote it, Eloy mastered it. They all three played the f*ck out of it.

  • @Endodont
    @Endodont 3 місяці тому +9

    Eloy is so clean and powerful

  • @olivierboisnard5601
    @olivierboisnard5601 3 місяці тому +19

    Could you put the soundtrack over Eloy drum cam ?

  • @lucasandrey2534
    @lucasandrey2534 3 місяці тому +12

    A comparação Eloy e joey só vai concluir quando o próximo CD for gravado pelo Eloy, por que é certeza comprovada que Eloy toca slipknot de olhos fechados, mas joey nunca tocaria sepultura como Eloy e isso é um fato

    • @andrelima7959
      @andrelima7959 3 місяці тому +1

      discordo

    • @guilhermedepaula6865
      @guilhermedepaula6865 3 місяці тому

      @@andrelima7959 De quê? kkkkk Que o Joey não tocaria as músicas do Sepultura? Não tocaria mesmo. Sepultura leva muito da música brasileira, gringo não tem essa referência. As músicas iam sair todas retas, sem pegada.

    • @KelwenSouza
      @KelwenSouza 3 місяці тому

      Agora é esperar próximo CD (um single não adianta), pra ver se vai soar como Slipknot antigo, Slipknot new age ou 'Eloy e a galera', e se nos shows/anos seguintes vão continuar tocando 98% das músicas criadas com linhas de bateria do Joey.

    • @marcbr2585
      @marcbr2585 3 місяці тому

      Não, isso não é um "fato" É apenas o teu pachequismo insano!

  • @phirus646
    @phirus646 2 місяці тому

    I was physically exhausted just from watching. Just imagine playing a whole set with that intensity 🤯

  • @ShaxrizodaTanukulova
    @ShaxrizodaTanukulova 2 місяці тому +1

    JOEY: LOVE HIS EVERYTHING
    JAY: LOVE HIS PERSONALITY
    ELOY: LOVE HIS TALENT

  • @x_peixe_x
    @x_peixe_x 3 місяці тому +9

    Look, now I understand the flaws in Jay's double pedal!

  • @morganneher8643
    @morganneher8643 3 місяці тому +1

    One thing that is huge is that Joey was there and a part of the songwriting so, he is in those songs fully 🔥

  • @harveysengersmusic247
    @harveysengersmusic247 2 місяці тому

    Every drummer knows: The harder you hit the harder it is to make it sound tight.
    This is a HUGE reason why Eloys work is so damn good.

  • @marksummers666
    @marksummers666 3 місяці тому +1

    Each one of them crushed it, nothing but respect to all three. But man this new Eloy era is exciting

  • @lucasvalotto
    @lucasvalotto 3 місяці тому +6

    my boy eloy is just built different

  • @saadesigner07
    @saadesigner07 3 місяці тому +6

    Eloy plays like a caveman, and I kinda love it.

  • @Cmd1111
    @Cmd1111 3 місяці тому +3

    Ok I'm sry but is there even a question?? Eloy really is the best slipknot drummer! 🔥

  • @dianis610
    @dianis610 3 місяці тому +5

    La técnica de Eloy y su precisión son impresionantes.

    • @pawall3deller468
      @pawall3deller468 3 місяці тому

      He has no technique, this technique is called the gorilla found a hammer and notes.

    • @dianis610
      @dianis610 3 місяці тому

      @@pawall3deller468 ah, ok. 🙄

  • @pedropequeno7353
    @pedropequeno7353 3 місяці тому +5

    This direct comparison clearly shows how out of time Jay was. So sad Slipknot took so long to hire Eloy.

  • @Sanca011Pizzaria
    @Sanca011Pizzaria 3 місяці тому +6

    eloy is next lvl

  • @GidaltoBarbosa-wk5tt
    @GidaltoBarbosa-wk5tt 3 місяці тому +1

    Joey was a beast, and wrote the drums for the songs, but MAAAAAAAN that Eloy

  • @v-x-n-999
    @v-x-n-999 2 місяці тому

    Eloy is such a power house! He brings those grooves to life with precision and power!

  • @rafaeldossantostrespach1802
    @rafaeldossantostrespach1802 3 місяці тому +8

    Eu amo Joey mas o Eloy mi surpreendeu só do Eloy ❤❤❤❤ e amo Slipknot

  • @JoeyJordisonn
    @JoeyJordisonn 3 місяці тому

    Its an honor to have Eloy in slipknot ❤ his energy is everything!

  • @lucasyaguinuma4624
    @lucasyaguinuma4624 3 місяці тому +2

    Joey LEGEND, Eloy....... It leaves me speechless to describe what it caused in our minds as Slipknot fans!

  • @Madzguy007
    @Madzguy007 3 місяці тому +6

    1st - Joey: God
    2nd - Eloy: Impressive with brazilian twist
    10th: Jay: Okay Drummer

  • @streamspoart2671
    @streamspoart2671 3 місяці тому +2

    If Joey played drum upside down, Eloy will playing drum while parachuting

  • @romariojones46
    @romariojones46 4 місяці тому +21

    Eloy 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🔥

  • @andre2boechat526
    @andre2boechat526 3 місяці тому +3

    1:31 *INSANE TRANSITION*

  • @rioborzeli147
    @rioborzeli147 3 місяці тому +14

    ELOY all the way , Worlds top no 1 killer drummer today 2024

  • @vampireslumberpartyTV
    @vampireslumberpartyTV 3 місяці тому +2

    eloy's drumming is just insane

  • @Tommy_R
    @Tommy_R 3 місяці тому +1

    All of them are amazing in their own way, but Eloy is one of a kind

  • @TheVexdOne
    @TheVexdOne 4 місяці тому +9

    What a monster!

  • @geissoncolonetti
    @geissoncolonetti 3 місяці тому +23

    Vejo dois alunos disciplinados, jay e joey… eloy o professor.

    • @Maggot377
      @Maggot377 3 місяці тому +4

      What students are you talking about? Joey created this groove

    • @jkorkea
      @jkorkea 3 місяці тому +5

      Eloy fans are something else, saying Eloy would be the teacher when Joey was the pathfinder for this kinda drumming, sit the f down dude 😂

    • @never_say_my_name4629
      @never_say_my_name4629 3 місяці тому

      Eloy não é professor cara, ele é um aluno que aprendeu muito bem, joey sempre sera eterno

    • @geissoncolonetti
      @geissoncolonetti 3 місяці тому

      @@never_say_my_name4629 não estou me referindo ao criar e sim sobre tocar.

  • @lucasyaguinuma4624
    @lucasyaguinuma4624 3 місяці тому +1

    The desire to listen to the band with Eloy is so great that it seems that I met Slipknot now in 2024

  • @BLuizHenrique
    @BLuizHenrique 3 місяці тому +5

    Olha como o Eloy toca limpo! Cada nota fantasma, cada chute no bumbo... Tudo extremamente limpo e no tempo perfeito.

  • @mateusxavier8805
    @mateusxavier8805 4 місяці тому +24

    Performance horrível do Jay, olhando agora da até vergonha

    • @LucasSoares-hg5if
      @LucasSoares-hg5if 3 місяці тому

      é…

    • @ricardoamorim-dev
      @ricardoamorim-dev 3 місяці тому +1

      Ele faz uma virada gigantesca aonde não tem, fui pesquisar e geralmente o baterista faz isso porque ele já não aguenta mais continuar fazendo o que ele tava fazendo, que no caso era o pedal duplo.

    • @aderbalnunesm
      @aderbalnunesm 3 місяці тому +5

      @@ricardoamorim-dev Joey e Jay se encurvam na bateria quando tem uma frase longa de pedal duplo, isso é concentração pq falta força, claro que depois de horas tocando e sei lá quantos shows na agenda é muito cansativo. Por isso Eloy malha kkkkkk, mas sim o Jay é cansado demais, impossível ficar nessa banda.

    • @mateusxavier8805
      @mateusxavier8805 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ricardoamorim-dev ele fazia isso em várias músicas

  • @morgand1
    @morgand1 3 місяці тому +1

    Eloys precision blows my head off(both of them)

  • @shampoo6563
    @shampoo6563 3 місяці тому +4

    Eloy all the way. Too clean to say otherwise.

  • @gelpereira1417
    @gelpereira1417 3 місяці тому

    The ghost notes that Eloy played were incredible, he raised the level of the band

  • @theirishbandit7301
    @theirishbandit7301 2 місяці тому

    Kind of puts tears in my eyes honestly

  • @Uberboogie
    @Uberboogie 3 місяці тому +13

    Joey live tricks and show mind blowing but can’t maintain double bass speed after 3-4 secs.
    Jay is basic nothing else
    Eloy is a monster hitter technically ahead of everyone insanely fast and powerful. He is the ultimate metal drummer ever lived !

    • @GreatBurningNullifier
      @GreatBurningNullifier 3 місяці тому +1

      An objective comment at last! You know drums sir, everyone else seems to be deaf or just a Joey fanboy.

    • @Uberboogie
      @Uberboogie 3 місяці тому +1

      @@GreatBurningNullifier thanks man. I’m a drummer myself and I used to kick ass when I was on the drums run. Joey Lars Mike portnoy Dave lombardo and the list goes on they were my influences. But Eloy? Ridiculous and everything he does is so tasty and perfectly put together⛓️⛓️‍💥🔩🔨

    • @or1on89
      @or1on89 3 місяці тому

      WTF are you talking about? Were you born yesterday? XD

  • @legoset
    @legoset 3 місяці тому +14

    From a purely technical perspective, if you say Joey is better than Eloy, here are a couple of things about you:
    1. You don't play drums
    2. You don't understand anything about drums
    3. You're a fan of what they look like performing, not what and how they actually perform
    4. Your pride is hurt
    Yes, Joey wrote those songs and he was an amazing drummer, no doubt about that. But leave your pride and fanboy attitude aside and just give credit where credit is due.

    • @BunkMayne
      @BunkMayne 3 місяці тому +2

      You don’t know what you are talking about

    • @DJFalkoHannover
      @DJFalkoHannover 3 місяці тому +1

      Your comment was even more butthurt than the butthurts!

    • @BunkMayne
      @BunkMayne 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DJFalkoHannover you don’t know what you are talking about either! Learn how to play drums

    • @DJFalkoHannover
      @DJFalkoHannover 3 місяці тому

      @@BunkMayne I play for more than 30 year but okay ... you are the best man! :-D Its okay ... lol Everybody else has no clue. Except you :-D

    • @BunkMayne
      @BunkMayne 3 місяці тому

      @@DJFalkoHannover Exactly!

  • @Y-I-C-A
    @Y-I-C-A Місяць тому +2

    The ghost notes of Eloy is so clean & INSANE!! DAMN!!

  • @twiztid133
    @twiztid133 Місяць тому +1

    I believe Slipknot never have a bad drummer. You can clearly see their playing styles are different.

  • @kmirandakondo
    @kmirandakondo 3 місяці тому +8

    Eloy is the best metal drummer in history. Amazing.

    • @marcotaproot
      @marcotaproot 3 місяці тому +3

      Nice joke,we wanna see what he will create in the future then we can talk

    • @kmirandakondo
      @kmirandakondo 3 місяці тому +3

      @@marcotaproot you don’t know anything about drumming 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @marcotaproot
      @marcotaproot 3 місяці тому +2

      @@kmirandakondo u talkin about u dude.Eloy is amazing but tell me what legendary albums he was in

    • @brunocristelli
      @brunocristelli 3 місяці тому

      Não exagera campeão

    • @kmirandakondo
      @kmirandakondo 3 місяці тому

      @@marcotaproot Eloy:
      - Won 2005’s Modern drummers contest with 14 years old
      - Joined Sepultura at 18 years old
      - When he was 33 years old he already recorded 9 albums
      - Joins Slipknot
      Sublime technique- sublime performances.
      You know- sadly given your opinion doesn’t require not being an ignorant- but you should try it.

  • @Overstreett
    @Overstreett 3 місяці тому +1

    Very funny, a lot of people compare joey, jay & eloy.
    They forget that this is a slipknot, a big band that will not carelessly choose a drummer.

  • @DragonDb81
    @DragonDb81 3 місяці тому +1

    Joey is Zeus, Jay is Thor, Eloy is Kratos

  • @chrisgsauce
    @chrisgsauce 3 місяці тому +1

    Eloy's fills sound so damn tight and clean!

  • @matthewjames206
    @matthewjames206 3 місяці тому +1

    All amazing drummers 🍻

  • @cellarroom1580
    @cellarroom1580 3 місяці тому +1

    Three great drummers, no doubt. They all bring something unique to the table. Jordison being an original member is of course a big part of why Slipknot sounds the way they do. Jay is bit more erratic, in a good way. He's got more of almost a punk vibe to him. Eloy is of course more rooted in metal and is super tight in all he does. With him I think Slipknot loose a bit of the erratic feel, but they get a real powerhouse instead.