I said the first sapphic kiss on TV was in Australia - I was wrong! My latest information is that it was, in fact, in Brazil on the show “A Calúnia” in 1963. I couldn't find a clip of the kiss but here is an article (in Portuguese) claudia.abril.com.br/famosos/sabia-que-o-1o-beijo-homossexual-da-tv-brasileira-aconteceu-em-1963/. Thanks to viewer Camila Valore for the info!
Hi! I'm trying to track down the first lesbian kiss on TV as well for a video, but unfortunately, all the sources I can find about "Calúnia" (sometimes "A Calúnia") are shady at best. In the case of this article, the picture at the end is a really bad crop of 1931 "Mädchen in Uniform". I hope we can find more information about it! Update : I can't post links, but the title of the original 2011 article is "Vida Alves: ela deu o verdadeiro primeiro beijo gay da TV brasileira" It was an adaptation of the 1934 play "The Children's Hour", which had many movie adaptations including one in 1961 starring Audrey Hepburn
Hi. I am a 78 year old Norwegian woman, a lesbian all my life, have collected lesbian films for as long as I can remember and have hard-dices to prove it. And here you are summing it all up. Nice 😁
Incredibly frustrating how we are continuosly being pushed aside. I am one of those heartbroken lesbians who are perpetually dissapointed each time a series gets cancelled with a strong sapphic storyline. Its 2022, can't we get a break already. Its really difficult to find something decent to watch these days, and we really do deserve so much more, so much better. Thank you for your uploads, its always good to know that I'm not the only one who feels cheated.
Thank you for including The War Widow . A few years back, it took quite a bit of research to track it down and purchase a copy. Am so glad I have it now.
Yes, I was put onto the movie by viewer Dizzy Dude for which I'm grateful. There is actually a copy of it up here on YT which I linked in the comments as someone had done the same thing as you, gone searching for it until they got a copy and then decided to share, knowing how rare it was to find.
Wow! Well done... I am a child of the sixties and this was like taking field trip to and through my life viewed through a film and TV lens. As kid, there was absolutely nothing. Fast forward to now and all the content blossoming for everyone to see; albeit was some major issues as you pointed out. It is disappointing to see the pendulum swinging back too far in the 'wrong' direction with so many cancelations - I am still scratching my head at 'First Kill'... Again, this was so well done, Thanks for sharing!! ps... sorry about some of the worrisome trends coming from my country... We are, as ever, a work in progress...
Just watched your documentary. You did show things for All My Children soap opera in the states. I was surprised at the clips and what was covered. Surprised the facts that the character Bianca was involved in the first lesbian kiss and lesbian wedding in US daytime history. Loved this very informative. Thank you
Thank you, excellent work and I'll be recommending your channel to my daughter as soon as we next speak. I'm looking forward to watching more of your contributions to this theme; the Goddess knows we've waited far too long for it 👍
This was wonderful. As always, I especially love Clarina and it was so good to see them mentioned. C Lexa changed sapphic representation significantly and I was happy you so clearly pointed that out.
This is so interesting, but opposite to what is happening in the lesbian audiobook world. I started Dog Ear Audio, the first lesbian audiobook production company, in 2008. Back then it was very difficult to get an audiobook by an independent producer up on Audible. They said a company had to have at least five books ready to be placed with that distribution network before they would let a single book be placed with them. At around that same time, Amazon purchased Audible. I had three books produced and they were doing well being sold independently through a non-Audible site. As with independent film makers, I had seen that there was a need to have our print stories turned into audiobooks that could be listened to on work commutes, while working at home, or anywhere print books were inconvenient. Soon after, the ‘big guys’ in the audiobook world saw the financial possibilities after these books did well and they began to lock in contracts to every lesbian publishing house out there. So while I am glad to have gotten the ball rolling, it still irks me that these larger corporations are only in it for the money and do not give back or care about our community.
*wow! Genuinely mentioning~if you have ever contemplated teaching a Sapphic Course~i will be your first student.* 💖👍🏼😌 *yaaaas!* *Thank you very kindly for your edit w/incredible information about so many Sapphic individuals, characters, movies & Shows!* *They say: 'knowledge is power' and you have provided amazing content for so many ppl.* 💗 *I thank you and look forward to seeing what interesting content you'll procure and edit for your channel.* 😊 *Great work!* *LoveAlways* 💙 *KareBear*
I really appreciate your insightful, political and academic (Film Theory) analysis, and this 2 parter really opened my eyes . Thanks for sharing. Don't you think that the 'cancellation of great TV series in 2021/22 probably ha more to do with covid and the restrictions that put on production and timetabling more than anything else? Great research, content and narration. TY.
I'm so glad you enjoyed! Yes, I'm do think Covid impacted things and more recently with the writer's strike. I did a video over a year ago about the cancellations where I investigated a bit deeper into it and while I don't think there is any kind of anti-sapphic agenda behind it, it's really about money, I think we feel the impact more.
Wow, awesome again! I especially appreciate learning more of the context around the Clexa/Bury Your Gays trope within the broader, longer-term goings on. Maybe I should be embarrassed to admit my level of awareness, but that was one of the fist incidences that I recognized the 'disappearing' queer women from storylines in such a way. It kind of reminds me of storylines in cop shows where the protagonist suddenly realizes that all of those apparently 'isolated' murders were actually perpetrated by the same serial killer. I guess in this case, the metaphorical 'serial killer' is more complex, the the end result is the same: a bunch of dead women 🙄🤬.
Not sure if you watched part 1 but that does look at an earlier history of wlw rep and does discuss how rep had systematically bad endings :) glad you enjoyed!
It's interesting to be appreciative of the increase in sapphic representation while still being annoyed with the constant cancellation. I feel like I can find the representation more often but still can't hold onto a well established, fully built, relationship between two women.
I think that's def been the trade off if getting more lead sapphic characters on shows. Before if they were secondary or subtext, it felt like they could build the ships better. Now it's an almost exhausting roundabout of sapphic lead shows that last 2 seconds...
On the topic of the female buddy-cop show "Cagney and Lacey," it's worth noting that the first actress to play Christine Cagney in the TV series, Meg Foster, was let go by the producers after the first six episodes because they thought the viewers would see her as a lesbian character, an impression that the producers apparently didn't want to encourage. Cagney was played by Sharon Gless for the rest of the show. (The *very* first actress to play Cagney was Loretta Swit in the original TV movie, but her contract with "M*A*S*H" didn't allow her to sign on for "Cagney and Lacey," the series.) I wonder what the show would be like if Foster stayed in the role.
Thank you so much for providing these extra nuances and information! And thanks for the heads up on the War Widow, as you can see, I used it for the video. Kudos!
I love movies with these kinds of queer related story but since lots of killing tropes. I stopped and divert my viewing interest in web-series that gained 2M views in a span of 24hrs since its premieres or uploaded. e.g such as *Stupid wife* , *Stripper* or Control/ *Kontrola* just to name a few. thank you for these kinds of interesting topics 💜
I am glad that things has changed. And frankly, I have been watching the 100 only because of that chemistry. And then they killed off such and important character. How? Why? Didn’t even bother to watch the rest of the series.
FYI … Star Trek deep space nine featured an episode where Jadzia Dax has a lesbian affair and there was an on screen kiss between Terry Farrell and Susana Thompson. I never saw any queer subtext between Jadzia and Kira. They were just friends, but like any good female friendship there will be lesbians out there who want to ship them.
I finally got to watch The Watermelon Woman this week, at a cinema no less! I loved it, and I'm kicking myself for somehow being completely unaware this movie even existed for such a long time. P.S. Am I going to have to watch Party of Five now, or is it just 5 minutes of queerbaiting? I do love me some Neve Campbell though, so maybe...🥰
It's happens over 3ish episodes. I recommend you watch just those . I don't think it has any further impact on the show. And yes watermelon woman is a must watch, groundbreaking.
10:33 I think it's fair and reasonable to acknowledge that Ellen, despite her poor judgement and toxic traits, will nonetheless go down in pop culture history as a trailblazer. She was part of a pivotal moment in LGBT history: the Obama Era. I guess her fame and wealth simply got the better of her. She's a flawed human, much like those many predatory celecrities that got exposed in the wake of MeToo, such as Bill Cosby. I have personally never been an enabler of bullying, let alone a predator. But I can empathize with being flawed. And being human. 🤷 I think future (post-humous) documentaries about Ellen will recognize her as a complex, nuanced person.
Don’t get me wrong I Loved Lexa and Clarke on The 100, but the actress playing Lexa got an offer to play the lead in a show I don’t blame her for taking the job. She had said if she could have played both roles she would have. They could have gotten a new actress to play Lexa but don’t know if people would have liked that either.
Seven of Nine and Captain Janeway (from Star Trek Voyager) as Sapphic? I guess you never watched Voyager. Behind the scenes, Mulgrew (Capt. Janeway) was literally bullying Jeri Ryan (7 of 9). This is fairly well-known and Mulgrew has admitted to it (and regrets it). On screen, their relationship wasn't remotely sexual. It was more like mother and daughter. So when you claim its sapphic, it means you've never watched the show.
I did an entire video on the subtext of Janeway and Seven which very much begs to differ. Of course not everyone sees it which is fine but myself and many sapphic women do.
I feel that sexual morality has declined since the sixties, so I'm not surprised that homosexuality and lesbianism is being embraced. We need to go back to God.
I said the first sapphic kiss on TV was in Australia - I was wrong! My latest information is that it was, in fact, in Brazil on the show “A Calúnia” in 1963. I couldn't find a clip of the kiss but here is an article (in Portuguese) claudia.abril.com.br/famosos/sabia-que-o-1o-beijo-homossexual-da-tv-brasileira-aconteceu-em-1963/. Thanks to viewer Camila Valore for the info!
Hi! I'm trying to track down the first lesbian kiss on TV as well for a video, but unfortunately, all the sources I can find about "Calúnia" (sometimes "A Calúnia") are shady at best. In the case of this article, the picture at the end is a really bad crop of 1931 "Mädchen in Uniform". I hope we can find more information about it!
Update : I can't post links, but the title of the original 2011 article is "Vida Alves: ela deu o verdadeiro primeiro beijo gay da TV brasileira"
It was an adaptation of the 1934 play "The Children's Hour", which had many movie adaptations including one in 1961 starring Audrey Hepburn
I'm only seeing your comment now, but thank you for the additional information. I now must go track down this movie! I thought the 1961 was powerful.
Hi. I am a 78 year old Norwegian woman, a lesbian all my life, have collected lesbian films for as long as I can remember and have hard-dices to prove it. And here you are summing it all up. Nice 😁
Thank you for all your lovely comments! I'm glad you've enjoyed this summary :)
Incredibly frustrating how we are continuosly being pushed aside. I am one of those heartbroken lesbians who are perpetually dissapointed each time a series gets cancelled with a strong sapphic storyline. Its 2022, can't we get a break already. Its really difficult to find something decent to watch these days, and we really do deserve so much more, so much better. Thank you for your uploads, its always good to know that I'm not the only one who feels cheated.
You should explore Thai Sapphic series and movies, they are more healthy than in the US, IMO.
So informative & brilliantly narrated 👏 😊 😍
I second this comment! Thank you!
Thank you for including The War Widow . A few years back, it took quite a bit of research to track it down and purchase a copy. Am so glad I have it now.
Yes, I was put onto the movie by viewer Dizzy Dude for which I'm grateful. There is actually a copy of it up here on YT which I linked in the comments as someone had done the same thing as you, gone searching for it until they got a copy and then decided to share, knowing how rare it was to find.
Wow! Well done... I am a child of the sixties and this was like taking field trip to and through my life viewed through a film and TV lens. As kid, there was absolutely nothing. Fast forward to now and all the content blossoming for everyone to see; albeit was some major issues as you pointed out. It is disappointing to see the pendulum swinging back too far in the 'wrong' direction with so many cancelations - I am still scratching my head at 'First Kill'...
Again, this was so well done, Thanks for sharing!!
ps... sorry about some of the worrisome trends coming from my country... We are, as ever, a work in progress...
Nothing about animation (cartoons, anime, CGI, etc...)? Perhaps you could make a part 3 regarding that.
I could not tear myself away. Very interesting and informative.
Appreciate all the effort, time, and extremely hard work that would go into this. Thanks heaps for sharing
Just watched your documentary. You did show things for All My Children soap opera in the states. I was surprised at the clips and what was covered. Surprised the facts that the character Bianca was involved in the first lesbian kiss and lesbian wedding in US daytime history. Loved this very informative. Thank you
Thank you, excellent work and I'll be recommending your channel to my daughter as soon as we next speak. I'm looking forward to watching more of your contributions to this theme; the Goddess knows we've waited far too long for it 👍
This was wonderful. As always, I especially love Clarina and it was so good to see them mentioned. C Lexa changed sapphic representation significantly and I was happy you so clearly pointed that out.
Clarina foreverrrrr!
As to Clexa, I think that Ellen's coming out and Clexa are the two most significant moments in modern representation.
you are such a gem to us sapphic film fanatics, great essay!!!
Thank you!
I keep learning and discovering watching your channel, thank you so much 😊
You're welcome!
such an amazing piece of work!
This is so interesting, but opposite to what is happening in the lesbian audiobook world. I started Dog Ear Audio, the first lesbian audiobook production company, in 2008. Back then it was very difficult to get an audiobook by an independent producer up on Audible. They said a company had to have at least five books ready to be placed with that distribution network before they would let a single book be placed with them. At around that same time, Amazon purchased Audible. I had three books produced and they were doing well being sold independently through a non-Audible site. As with independent film makers, I had seen that there was a need to have our print stories turned into audiobooks that could be listened to on work commutes, while working at home, or anywhere print books were inconvenient. Soon after, the ‘big guys’ in the audiobook world saw the financial possibilities after these books did well and they began to lock in contracts to every lesbian publishing house out there. So while I am glad to have gotten the ball rolling, it still irks me that these larger corporations are only in it for the money and do not give back or care about our community.
*wow! Genuinely mentioning~if you have ever contemplated teaching a Sapphic Course~i will be your first student.* 💖👍🏼😌 *yaaaas!* *Thank you very kindly for your edit w/incredible information about so many Sapphic individuals, characters, movies & Shows!*
*They say: 'knowledge is power' and you have provided amazing content for so many ppl.* 💗 *I thank you and look forward to seeing what interesting content you'll procure and edit for your channel.* 😊 *Great work!*
*LoveAlways* 💙 *KareBear*
Blimey! What a good idea.
Thank you, that's very sweet of you to say! Not on the cards for now, but who knows!
These are all so good!
I really appreciate your insightful, political and academic (Film Theory) analysis, and this 2 parter really opened my eyes . Thanks for sharing.
Don't you think that the 'cancellation of great TV series in 2021/22 probably ha more to do with covid and the restrictions that put on production and timetabling more than anything else?
Great research, content and narration. TY.
I'm so glad you enjoyed! Yes, I'm do think Covid impacted things and more recently with the writer's strike. I did a video over a year ago about the cancellations where I investigated a bit deeper into it and while I don't think there is any kind of anti-sapphic agenda behind it, it's really about money, I think we feel the impact more.
Wow, awesome again! I especially appreciate learning more of the context around the Clexa/Bury Your Gays trope within the broader, longer-term goings on. Maybe I should be embarrassed to admit my level of awareness, but that was one of the fist incidences that I recognized the 'disappearing' queer women from storylines in such a way. It kind of reminds me of storylines in cop shows where the protagonist suddenly realizes that all of those apparently 'isolated' murders were actually perpetrated by the same serial killer. I guess in this case, the metaphorical 'serial killer' is more complex, the the end result is the same: a bunch of dead women 🙄🤬.
Not sure if you watched part 1 but that does look at an earlier history of wlw rep and does discuss how rep had systematically bad endings :) glad you enjoyed!
It's interesting to be appreciative of the increase in sapphic representation while still being annoyed with the constant cancellation. I feel like I can find the representation more often but still can't hold onto a well established, fully built, relationship between two women.
I think that's def been the trade off if getting more lead sapphic characters on shows. Before if they were secondary or subtext, it felt like they could build the ships better. Now it's an almost exhausting roundabout of sapphic lead shows that last 2 seconds...
On the topic of the female buddy-cop show "Cagney and Lacey," it's worth noting that the first actress to play Christine Cagney in the TV series, Meg Foster, was let go by the producers after the first six episodes because they thought the viewers would see her as a lesbian character, an impression that the producers apparently didn't want to encourage. Cagney was played by Sharon Gless for the rest of the show. (The *very* first actress to play Cagney was Loretta Swit in the original TV movie, but her contract with "M*A*S*H" didn't allow her to sign on for "Cagney and Lacey," the series.) I wonder what the show would be like if Foster stayed in the role.
Thank you so much for providing these extra nuances and information! And thanks for the heads up on the War Widow, as you can see, I used it for the video. Kudos!
@@100percentshipper - BTW, good video!
Basically Instinct movie between Sharon Stone and Lelani Sarelli
Wait in Ocean's 8 were they not together??? I guess I need to watch that one again
Thanks for this. Also the killing of sister George
I love movies with these kinds of queer related story but since lots of killing tropes. I stopped and divert my viewing interest in web-series that gained 2M views in a span of 24hrs since its premieres or uploaded. e.g such as *Stupid wife* , *Stripper* or Control/ *Kontrola* just to name a few. thank you for these kinds of interesting topics 💜
Your video... well done.
Have you watched Bilitis? (1977)
Never heard of it, but will add it to my list, thanks!
@@100percentshipper you’re welcome😊 love your videos btw
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! 🌈💗
Star Trek DS9 was revolutionary for me. I didn't see the other ones.
Never forget Clexa ❤😢
Well done
I am glad that things has changed. And frankly, I have been watching the 100 only because of that chemistry. And then they killed off such and important character. How? Why? Didn’t even bother to watch the rest of the series.
FYI … Star Trek deep space nine featured an episode where Jadzia Dax has a lesbian affair and there was an on screen kiss between Terry Farrell and Susana Thompson. I never saw any queer subtext between Jadzia and Kira. They were just friends, but like any good female friendship there will be lesbians out there who want to ship them.
There are more dead sapphic characters than the hair on my head! 😭
Bring back Gentleman Jack!! How can we campaign for this?
Why do films/tv go decades into the future with representation and then go back into the dark ages with queer people 😢.
I do believe I have been going "too gay" my whole life 😄.
I finally got to watch The Watermelon Woman this week, at a cinema no less! I loved it, and I'm kicking myself for somehow being completely unaware this movie even existed for such a long time.
P.S. Am I going to have to watch Party of Five now, or is it just 5 minutes of queerbaiting? I do love me some Neve Campbell though, so maybe...🥰
It's happens over 3ish episodes. I recommend you watch just those . I don't think it has any further impact on the show.
And yes watermelon woman is a must watch, groundbreaking.
Don’t forget Queer As Folk USA version mainly about gay men but there was a lesbian couple that came out before The L Word
10:33 I think it's fair and reasonable to acknowledge that Ellen, despite her poor judgement and toxic traits, will nonetheless go down in pop culture history as a trailblazer. She was part of a pivotal moment in LGBT history: the Obama Era.
I guess her fame and wealth simply got the better of her. She's a flawed human, much like those many predatory celecrities that got exposed in the wake of MeToo, such as Bill Cosby. I have personally never been an enabler of bullying, let alone a predator. But I can empathize with being flawed. And being human. 🤷 I think future (post-humous) documentaries about Ellen will recognize her as a complex, nuanced person.
❤ it!!
Ocean's Eight was the most attracted I have been to Cate Blanchett and the last time her nose looked right.
Cancellation is the new way they found to BYG 😩😩
Don’t get me wrong I Loved Lexa and Clarke on The 100, but the actress playing Lexa got an offer to play the lead in a show I don’t blame her for taking the job. She had said if she could have played both roles she would have. They could have gotten a new actress to play Lexa but don’t know if people would have liked that either.
UK 1992
❤😮
what about personal best it was not bad
Seven of Nine and Captain Janeway (from Star Trek Voyager) as Sapphic? I guess you never watched Voyager. Behind the scenes, Mulgrew (Capt. Janeway) was literally bullying Jeri Ryan (7 of 9). This is fairly well-known and Mulgrew has admitted to it (and regrets it). On screen, their relationship wasn't remotely sexual. It was more like mother and daughter. So when you claim its sapphic, it means you've never watched the show.
I did an entire video on the subtext of Janeway and Seven which very much begs to differ. Of course not everyone sees it which is fine but myself and many sapphic women do.
Mabe we don’t need to know!!
So many cigarettes! Lol
Less is more. I like the math.
I feel that sexual morality has declined since the sixties, so I'm not surprised that homosexuality and lesbianism is being embraced. We need to go back to God.
God and I are good, I never left him. But enjoy your journey back!
@@100percentshipper I'm not judging you or others. Good luck in your journey too.