Review | 2017 Mazda3 | Better than Before
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- We do a follow up review on the refreshed Mazda 3 Grand Touring model. (Or sGrand Touring for those used to previous name) The competition such as the Honda Civic and Hyundai Elantra are extremely stiff, the older Mazda3 may need more than an update to make it best in class. We take a look at the good, bad and problems, with the updated model. Included is discussion about g-vectoring and the new features.
(The dangerous cold altered the video style)
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SavageGeese is:
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Scott Turbowski - Technology Designer
Original 2014 Mazda3 Review:
• The Angry 2014 Mazda 3...
CX-5 Review:
• Review | 2016 Mazda CX...
Index:
00:00 - 00:33 Intro
00:33 - 3:15 Exterior Impressions
3:15 - 7:37 In the Shoppe with Scott Turbowski
7:37 - 11:07 GVC G Vectoring Control Explained
11:07 - 19:22 Driving Impressions
19:22 - 24:28 Interior Impressions
24:28 - 25:45 Final Thoughts in the Cold - Авто та транспорт
For anyone watching this looking to buy one. Do it! I have a 2015 with 170,000 miles. 1000 miles a week over hard mountain roads. Amazing driving, Zero problems with regular maintenance.
I just got a 2017! what have you done preventively besides oil changes?
Almost at the 50k subs, great honest content, by far the more in-depth car channel around, keep up the good work mate.
People come for the honest reviews and they stay for the awkward sexual tension.
I also like how Mazda's 4 cylinders sound. They sound refined but still have a slight rawness and passion. Especially compared to Hyundais and Nissans which sound completely like vacuum cleaners.
you haven't driven a veloster yet
The HUD for me is one of the best features of the interior. If you set it up properly with your driving position it becomes something you almost can't drive without. Coming from a 2015 sGT
I wish the color from HUD was white. It would definitely match the cabin allot better when driving at night.
I like the HUD a lot. I did a 1600 mile trip and found it very useful. I could always tell what speed I was going, what the cruise was set on and what my next turn was and I never had to look down. I honestly think it's pretty necessary because the digital speedometer is so far down in the gauge cluster.
Nice Review ! Always good to see someone that shows a vehicle in real world conditions and how it performs .
Thanks
Joe
I bought my 2018 Grand Touring Hatchback 6speed manual based on your comprehensive review of the Mazda3, Huge fan of the channel 👍
Gabriel Chavarria how’s the shifter now Gabe? I just bought a brand new 2018 GT sedan and the shifter feel is crap compared to my fiesta ST prior.
Thought the 6mt was the bread and butter of Mazda. I say it’s junk.
I have a 2018 Touring Hatchback 6sp manual and I love the shifter. It shifts like butter and is a pleasure to drive.
Just got the same one two months ago! Compared to the shifter on my 2010 2.5L VW Jetta 5 speed, it's a dream to drive. Way smoother. I do feel like the clutch engagement point is a little muddy, lots of "extra" room on the clutch, but now that I've gotten the hang of it I have no complaints and can row through the gears much quicker than my VW. My only previous experience with Mazda was a 1992 Mazda Miata I owned 13-14 years ago, and to this day I still miss that car like crazy. Would love to see the "speed" line make a comeback soon!
Your reviews are so detailed. You're like the AvE of car reviews going into materials and build quality and what not.
Just got a low mileage 2018 Mazda 3 GT hatch 6 speed and absolutely love it. After watching your review of the 2019, I really would've liked the AWD and interior improvements, but unsure if I would've given up the 6 speed manual for those benefits. I'm in upstate NYS so the AWD would've been a game changer during the winter months, but I'm typically fine with FWD and keep top quality snow tires on all of my cars.
Thanks for all your fantastic real world reviews. Very educational and insightful segments that are immensely underrated. One vehicle that I would enjoy seeing on this channel is the Focus ST. I enjoyed all the constructive criticism on the RS and would appreciate an ST review. Cheers mate
RIP
Thank you so much for uploading this!! I've been waiting for this one for a long time! Needed your opinion on it. Excellent review as always. Keep up the great work!
Do you still feel the same about this car? I’m thinking of buying it now as a used/pre owned car .
Such a good work filming and editing the videos to make it look great. I wish you had more subs. Keep it up!
you put a lot of effort into your content and aren't afraid to state your opinion. Your videos are great! keep it up
I can't believe I just found this guy. Absolutely the best car reviews.
Saw this vid & now I'm going to pick up a 2017 Mazda 3 Touring this Monday. Thanks for the video!
Excellent review style.. Very objective unlike many other reviewers. Great Work keep it up!! Excellent channel.
I really appreciate you taking the time to show us the bottom of the car - as a midwesterner Mazdas past rust issues made me uneasy
This video made us go out and get a Mazda 3 Grand Touring 2.5 hatch and it's an incredible car
My Mazda 3 - S was one of the most fun to drive cars I've ever owned. Moving up to the Mazda 6 and I hope I enjoy it as much as the 3.
Whats the consensus
Update
@@lethalpenguin61 There's no update coming it's been 2 years!
I love the way you've done for each videos.
I just traded in my 2011 Mz3iT 2.0L 5spd sedan for the 2017 Touring HB 2.5L 6-spd manual. I can't believe how good this car is. Yup...it's a bit shy in rear leg room, not as much total cargo capacity as some, maybe not quite as quiet...But, this thing is QUICK. Unfortunately, I do have that ill-designed speedo/tach, which was MUCH better in my previous 3 cars. I got a terrific end of year deal as well as a loyalty discount. For what I paid, this is a tremendous amount of car for the $. I also own a 2013 Corvette Z06 and I enjoy driving this Mazda nearly as much. In some cases, even more. Especially in very heavy traffic. Plus, I'm getting even better economy than I got with the 2011 2.0L!! This 2017 T has a butter smooth ride, feels very sophisticated and with a super real connection to the road I've felt only in my Z06. Even more so, in some cases. And, the Touring has 90-95% of the GT's features. A bit less leather (I do like the leatherette used-simple cleaning maintenance and it's grippy and comfy to the touch), no LED lights, no i-eloop (TG!!)...No Bose (really, who cares?-Most car audio sucks, anyway)..And, TG, no pop up HUD! My 2017 Mz3THB is just pure driving pleasure. Oh->And the WeatherTech mats I got cover about 50% of the dead pedal. So maybe it'll help with some of that wear mentioned. I soon plan on getting a dedicated winter wheel package (had one with the 2011-Makes a HUGE difference)...And whilst I'm at it, get the OEM rims some REAL tires. Michelins or Continentals or maybe the new Firestone Indys. The Dunlop Sport 5000 Ms it comes with SUCK!!! The only truly cheap thing on this car, imho. Once this car has real tires, this thing is going to handle and brake with the best, I think...Great tires will drop 0-60 time, improve braking distances, transient behavior, reduce FWD understeer, etc. Looking forward to making this great driving car even better...
Another Great video Savagegeese
Way to go Mazda! I wish they'd start making high performance versions in the next generation of 3 and 6.
Underfighter73 yeah definitely, I hope that the Speed3/ Speed6 make a return.
You know, here in europe I wish we could even get a 155hp petrol version that is considered "slow" by a lot of americans. All we get here is a 2.0/120hp petrol or 2.2 diesel with 155hp. There's even a 1.5l/110hp.....
I just don't get it, it's not really going to be that much more economic by reducing hp down to 120hp on a 2.0l engine. I'm not the kind of person who needs a 2.5l / 184hp but for the love of god, at least give us a "reasonable" 155hp version of the 2.0l version. This is just dumb saving, beyond reasonable in fuel ecomonic savings, you kill a lot of the fun for sake of a very marginal at best saving (I bet it's barely noticeable).
Andreas Cederberg I never understood this either, what's the deal? I assumed that that was based on the buyers habits in the area or something, but every time I see that I feel bad for you guys, although to make you feel better we have to pay sales tax on every car purchase
Underfighter73
they are. speed 6 awd turbo later this year.
then speed 3. hopefully soon
I can empathize with you.
bought the 2016 model and apart from hand break and minor other differences I'm very very happy about the feeling I get when taking my car to a curvy road
I just bought a 2018 3 GT and that’s one of the first things I noticed, it’s really fun to drive, has a lot of pep for a smallish 4-cyl engine, and the ability to manual shift the auto transmission with the paddle shifters keeps it fun and works well, is very responsive. Fuel efficiency seems good as well, and compared to the Ram 1500 Classic 5.7L I just got rid of, it’s amazing on gas lol!! My new (to me) Mazda 3 GT has the nice wheels, 2.5L but not the leather and heads up display, I agree that’s kind of cheesy and not a great design, kind of glad my sedan didn’t come with that feature. So far I love this vehicle, and glad I didn’t go with my other option at the time of a Corolla with a tiny 1.8L engine (or what ever is in those things) Will see how it handles in the upcoming winter weather here in Southern Ontario Canada, I’ve already got winter tires and wheels set up and ready to pop onto this car when the time is right. Happy with this car so far.
for the love of god get these guys to 10 million subbs!! excellent job as always savage
This is awesome. Great job describing the vehicle's ability in the snow. That's soemthing all of us in the Mid-West need to know about, and few car presenters offer any insight.
Nice review, thorough. I appreciate not sugar-coating the negatives. I have a 2007 Mazda 3. Been driving it for 10 years, it's been very reliable.
polaris911 mine is 2006. previous owner got into a serious accident and it has some problems but the engine works perfectly and i always enjoy driving mine. much better than my bros 2006 civic and my dads 2014 civic lol
Its a PSA engine. They are indeed very good...
only some of the mazda diesels. Not the gas engines, this a skyactiv, its mazda
yes.but in europe we don't really care about petrol engines. It's like a secret myth for us or something out of the greek mythology . We apreciaste diesels here...
hmm well as simon says [pun intended haha] not all of europe. in netherlands most cars i saw were either a hybrid, petrol or electric. People are really into hybrids or electrics because of all the benefits. SO much that you see tesla taxis
Good review and thanks for taking it out in the snow. I live in a very snowy part of Canada and fair weather reviews from the sunny southern US, hell even sunny reviews from Canadian reviewers, don't really give me an idea of how the car might behave in poor conditions. Loved that you include a look at the undercarriage as well.
Another great review! My friend just got this car in California. I never knew the weather could be so harsh in the Mid-West. Look at the layer of salt! That really can damage cars!
I recently bought the '17 hatch and I'm loving it. I thought the plastic HUD would be a pain but, to my surprise, I find it useful.
Far and away the best and most honest reviewer on youtube. Now if youtube would stop hiding your uploads from me.
Your videos keep getting better, enjoyed the humor. The Mazda 3 gt is a fantastic car and is easy to own.
Excellent review. Love the production quality.
You two guys have great garage chemistry
Excellent in depth review! Thanks, in part, to you I bought a '17 Mazda 3 GT to go with my '14 MX-5 Club. I'm a very lucky man who, for 10 years, owned a '92 Acura NSX in CA. No, the Mazdas don't quite compare to that amazing car but I retired to Honolulu 10 years ago and I knew that I'd never get the NSX out of 2nd gear here - so I sold it before moving here. ... Regrets? I've had a few.
Savage, Thank you for this road test and honest unbiased opinion of the Mazda 3, very surprisong from a USA guy. I came accross this on a search for a test as I am considering buying one in Thailand. Unfortunately it looks as though you can only get a 6 speed automatic in Thailand and I will only drive manual because I am from Europe and drive cars.
nice review...
i never get tired driving my mazda3 skyactive .. 23km per liter is simply amazing for a 2.0 liter engine
I personally like the dry presentation. Even though it's a little dry with turbowski, it just seems real and unscripted. Your production values are fantastic, and your attention to detail is without compare. Subscribed.
Wish you'd do one of these on a golf R and compare it to the GTI as a special, love the realness you guys bring.
If you opt for the hatch, the Mazda 3 is one of the best all around cars you can buy.
i hear the back seat space is a little bit tight
MrWalker1000 late, but I don’t think there is a difference in space except for the trunk.
@@francispham9384 what the point of a hatch
MrWalker1000 bigger trunk space, but don’t want a Suv at the same time.
I got a 2017 Hatchback Grand Touring and love it.
Dude, love your reviews. I will go film a goose for 2 seconds for you. Just say the word.
Well done vid! Makes me want to go out and buy one.
This is an amazing review.... Thank you
i am a simple person i see savagegeese with mazda's i hit that like button!
Nice review, I will go test drive one of these Mazda’s
I just bought the 2018 Mazda 3 2.0 5 door.
What struck me beside the driving experience is that built quality is outstanding for the pricepoint.
Awesome review, Sir!
excellent review!
Excellent review. Many thanks.
I’m about to take delivery of a runout sale Maxx model here in Australia. I purchased the Maxx because of the manual handbrake, and the car I chose will have a manual transmission. With decades of driving under my belt, and having done a recent test drive with an electric handbrake Mazda3, the old manual handbrake is still the best with its ‘feel’ in my opinion - especially with hill starts with a manual gearbox. Cheers.
That was an amazing video, man.
I love your reviews almost as much as I love Mazdas. Both are genuine and not full of fluff.
"Monte Carlo body line" I'm dying right now 😂 .. that is so on point about the hatch !!
Excellent review.
Just traded my 15 GTI for this car for reliability reasons 😔 absolutely love this car... Not as peppy but it has great drive ability and is still pretty damn fun to drive.
Lenny Schorer couldn’t pull the trigger on a GTI. It seems like the check engine light is on from the moment it gets delivered brand new to the dealer. Intake manifolds, fuel pumps, so many liabilities- but obviously a superior daily driving experience if you can keep it on the road. That said, my paid off Honda Fit was totaled, and a ‘17 grand touring S hatch is happening this week. Thanks for solidifying my choice.
@@pretty.noodles3540 Right on. It's an amazing car and I miss it. I don't miss the mechanical and maintenance "anxiety" though. Good luck to you and enjoy 👍
Did you consider anything else? I'm considering used options (manual if possible, decent power/sporty, comfortable) and the 16-17 GLI is maybe less prone to problems than the GTI [but, I know, not a hatch and not the newer MQB platform]. Am attracted to Mazda3 for all the available options, engaging dynamics, and better reliability rep, but haven't driven one yet. [Other maybes: '18 Golf SE 1.8T 5MT, 16-17 A3 (no manual)].
@@evang3943 I ended up not liking the power (lack thereof, really) of the Mazda3 and grabbed a '18 Fiesta ST and holy shit, is it fun to drive. My major gripe is that it's a smaller hatch regarding cargo space, everything else has been exceptional. Performance, handling, fuel economy, PURE FUN. I think it was just under $16k for one with 11k miles. It rips. At least test one out.
Would you say the Mazda handles better than the gti when take in to account the power difference
EXCELLENT REVIEW PERIOD
Any plans to review the '17 impreza? I'd like to see your thoughts on the sport model w/5 speed manual.
As always a great video.
Great review Thank you!
Awesome review as usual! I bought the 2017 Mazda 3 hatch 2.0L and I am very happy with it. I test drove a lot of cars in this class and it was easily the most fun to drive. It was a tough choice between the 2.0L and the 2.5L, but as a daily driver to and from work the 2.0L made more sense (fuck, I must be getting old). I also hated that stupid flip up bit of plastic for the HUD, which is in all 2.5L models in Canada.
I love your videos man !
I appreciate your reviews and want to thank you for this one in particular. I own a 2006 Mazda3 and am getting ready to replace it. I have enjoyed driving the 3 and it has been good to me. Considering getting a new 3 but wondering if the 6 is worth the extra cash and if the 6 is as fun to drive? (Manual Shift)
On with the winter reviews! Nice to see cars in, what is for many of us, their natural filthy salty habitat for a significant portion of the year.
Hi Mr Goose,
I have finally found a geeky car review channel!
Thanks for some excellent reviews.
I agree with your point about the danger/unusability of trying to adjust controls on modern infotainment systems. It is like manufacturers are trying to outdo each other and prove that they get IT. I read somewhere that VW are working on a gesture controlled system. I cannot imagine that waving at a screen like Herbert von Karajan is going to be more intuitive/safer than using a dial to control music. Anyway, looking forward to you taking a look at those systems when they get released :)
In the meantime, any plans to review the new Hyundai i30? It has been released here in Europe. Not sure about your side of the Atlantic.
Regards,
Felix
Thanks for another honest review; I test drove the 2018 3 and found it to be a stellar performer in every way except in one area: interior noise; since I have tinnitus in both ears, this has been the deal breaker for me; was wondering if premium floor mats and/or tires could address this problem; any suggestions would be much appreciated; BTW, this 3 is the Tech Package w/ 2.5 liter engine.
Cheers
Hello :)
What microphone setup do you have? There is top class audio in ever shot, how'd you achieve it?
thanks for doing the review. how is the seating in the back generally? would an elderly person have a difficult time getting in and out?
great review. What car does savage geese drives? This guy is so good at cars I wonder what does he drive!
Great review. Ive subscribed. Any chance of a review of the Subaru Impreza 2.0i S AWD with torque vectoring. Be interested to see what you think of that steering aid to the Mazdas software based turn in assistance.
great video good indepth review
Best brand ever. I have owned 4 Mazda’s. My brand for life
I just bought my daughter a 2014 touring 3 for her first car. She has a passion for cars and driving so this was pretty much the only choice on the market in our price range. Thanks for sharing this video and the video on your old Mazda 3.
+T Bone glad you liked it how is she liking it so far
She loves it. She got spoiled driving my old E90 3 series so she knows a little about driving dynamics and is happy to have something that is more dynamic than my wife's Accord. I am happy she enjoys driving.
Very interesting video. Thanks very much!
great review, thanks
Great to see the refreshed version of car i owned for almost 2years
Turbo always lighting up the humor :D
Really enjoy your channel. Wish you could do a review on Audi A3 Sedan / Saloon. I did a local channel search but to my huge surprise nothing came up. I found all types of oddities but no A3.
Savage, I think you got the explaining of the G vector control backwards in your video. By reducing torque. the weight gets shifted fwd which increases the turn-in. I think your explanation was backward, but I could be wrong. BTW, huge fan. Keep 'em coming. -retired F16 pilot.
+Ben Dover Hey Ben, thanks. Probably fudged some words in my explanation, but yes you are correct reduction of tq by .05Gs transfers weight on front wheels to improve turn in, grip and supposedly reduce the amount of movement in cabin but its very hard to express and feel it. Its a "feature" Id hate to explain to a customer trying to buy the car.
Random question: What camera are you shooting the car exterior shots with? Great review!
Fantastic review dude! Can u pls review the 2017 Subaru Impreza?
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savagegeese can you review the new 2019 mazda 3? Many say its better in everything than the current 3 and especially on comfort and interior
@savagegeese are you planning to review on 2017 Impreza any time soon?
I love your videos, perfect.
Great review as usual. This car really is the total package. I like it more than the Golf, which seems a bit distant and very underwhelming in its style. How would you compare this to the Golf?
I test drove the new 3 and found road noise to be moderate. All the roads near the dealer were glass smooth however, so I couldn't assess suspension damping and stiffness of the body structure. Any word from regular Mazda 3 owners on those? I've heard really great things about the new Civic and how stiff the structure feels and the ride quality.
Definitely a contender for my next car
I got fed this again video and now that I own a Mazda and I've actually taken the time to look into accessory options and it turns out the dreaded deadpedal you want covered is an optional extra... At least in Japan. Here it's offered if you get the metal ones.
The intro geese scares me, but stay for the reviews. Carry on mate
+Johnny White Dont worry that intro will never be back again.
I like your rewievs and your humor. And i like the new mazda 3.
What camera are you shooting the car exterior shots with? Great review!
I had the 2010 Mazda3 Sport 5 door. Loved it! That 2.5 is bad arse. Moved up to the 2011 CX-9 due to expanding family.
Regardless, sorry for keep repeating myself but I love your format, don't change anything, you'll get subscribers, you'll go viral on jalopnik or something and get the credit you deserve. I don't even care if I like the car in question I'm happy to watch a 30 minute video on it because I'm actually learning something and that's not usually the case.
I guess here's where Scott would make fun of me and say I got a SavageGeese tattoo on my back
Here in the U.K. I drive a 2015 2.0l auto & it's great!It turns heads over here because every one lusts after the boring boxy panzer tanks in Europe.On my third Mazda now with no issues on any of them. Stylish & reliable.zoom Zoon!!!
Savagegeese, what do you think of oil sprays to protect the under body of the car from salt and winter?
First of all keep up the tremendous work with these videos, I truly look forward to watching them. I have a 2006 Mazda 3 with the 2.3 with almost 215,000 miles. I drive the piss out of it. I'm in the market for a new car. I'm torn between a forester with a manual, an outback, a rx 350 and the Mazda 3. I really want the rx350 but it's too expensive. I want the outback simply because you can fit four American sized adults comfortably. The rx350 can do that too but more leg room with the outback with the driver seat in my position. The forester because manual and the Mazda 3 because I wouldn't mind buying an updated and more powerful version of mine. I jus wish mine had an LSD which going around turns can be a one wheel peel and is so aggravating. Which is why the model you reviewed intrigues me because of the whole GVS. The only thing that has me worried about with the Mazda and the subies are reliability. Subaru recalls have been a little crazy lately and Mazda simply because of all the new electronics. Lexus is Lexus and the rx 350 is the best selling luxury SUV along with Lexus' best selling car, so I doubt much will go wrong. What's your take on my debacle? Thanks and happy new year.
+Jason McConnell thanks a lot for the reply I'm a huge fan of the RX 350 even with the quirky styling it's really a great SUV and I'm not an SUV person at all. The Interior Space is really nice and you get a V6 which is hard to argue. I'm biased I like the Mazda3 and CX-5 over the Subarus well I appreciate their all-wheel-drive and some of the simplicity they're just so far behind in terms of some of the technology and interior design and at least in our area seeing how bad the under bodies look I wouldn't get another one. If you are definitely on a budget I would just go for the Mazda for sure because the RX 350 is expensive No Doubt.
savagegeese Wow! I live in jersey so all wheel drive would be nice. If Subaru leaves that much of a bad taste in your mouth then I shall stay away. Being that they lay down salt when it's simply going to rain in jersey, I'll steer away from the stamped steel on the Subaru. I know tires make a huge difference but it's truly a pain in the ass to switch out tires every season. I tested out the CX9 and it's too small for my American size rear. The center console is Hugh Mungus. I'm a big dude and I've been searching for a new car going on 4 years now simply because car manufacturers just want to be as techy as our phones. That's why I love my Mazda. I'm in control all the time. No abs or traction control and a manual gearbox. If I want to race a civic for a quick light to light and I lost, it's my fault. Cars are not what they used to be and it's sickening. Buying a car is the second largest purchase next to a house and I want to make the right choice, but that right choice is harder then ever in this terrible age of car manufacturing.
I had a 2007 Monte Pile-o with two 12’s in a ported box, pushed by a Fosgate amp and Sony head unit. Bumps in the rump, yo! If that car is still on the road, I know that system is still working.
Is the Mazda 3 2017 a harsh ride? Does it hits speed bumps? Keep the perfectionist job, I enjoy it so much!!!
Thanks for the great videos. I'm having a real hard time deciding between the new Civic and the Mazda3. You seem to really like both, but if pressed to choose one or the other which would it be? Sounds like the Mazda. I would say the same because of how well it handles (I just test drove one) but the interior room and nice touches on the Civic, along with slightly better mileage, have me thinking. I need to drive the Civic and see just how big the "fun factor" dropoff is in terms of handing and the CVT response. Help!
Of COURSE you should test drive the Civic, you should test drive ANY AND ALL vehicles you're considering. No angst, no anxiety, just get out there and do yourself a favor 'cuz this is YOUR next car and YOUR decision.
What do you think about the road noise ? Has it gotten better now?
Where did you find those Adidas gloves?? They look perfect for winter driving!