Ma man, preach!!! Amazing video. I have a 2010 QP Sports GTS and I think this car (the 5th generation in particular) is SSSSOOO overlooked and undervalued. It’s a hidden gem of a car.
I hav a 2009 QP Executive GT since new. It has been surprisingly reliable for about 46000 miles. Then the regular required maintenance kicked in. It's really normal repairs n nothing special; timing belt, suspension bushings, front connecting rod bushings, engine variator, cooling system replacements, engine mount replacements, O2 sensor, electric window motor replacements...nothing i haven't done on my Toyotas, Hondas, VW, Volvo, even BMW's. Problem is comparatively small volume in cars produced (comparing to Toyota, for example) thereby INCREASING owners' cost of repairs due to low economy of scale. Maserati (Ferrari) did not make MILLIONS of Quattroporte 4.7 but maybe about 20,000 of the M139 from 2007-2013. Only 20,000 cars with Ferrari sourced engine, suspension, exhaust, cooling system...there are just 20,000 of us shouldering all the costs & NOT the 3-5MILLION Camry, Accord owners all sharing the cost of their repair bills. I easily spent 1 entire new Camry/Accord in repairs when my Maserati hit 52k thru to now 56k miles. I love my Maserati QP 4.7 & it gives me such pleasure to know it runs perfectly in mechanical Zen n can be driven with such anonymity on the road...until i press the "SPORT" button n hit the throttle. 🎉😮🎉
Love Maserati M139 , it’s one of the best Maserati ever built as you get 4 doors Ferrari engine car for pennies compared even cheapest Ferrari California. It’s so enjoyable to drive for every day or sport driving. Plus, it’s a great investing as they still so undervalue. Thanks for video.
never cared about the bad comments on Maseratis... I love every single one of them. I would take this one over all BMWs, Mercedes, Jags, Astons, Bentley, ESPECIALLY PORSCHEs etc
I m maserati quattroporte owner with same engine and zf transmission like yours. like u said most underrated car on the road because of older version they realy sucks but from late 2007 to 2012 they got zf transmission 6 speed with engine that goes to Ferrari 460 I own it 6 years and only issue i had is chenging coolant hose on the back of the engine that's it in 6 years. I love my car gives me goosebumps every time i floor it,still after 6 years. U didn't mention that is perfect weightet car 51-49 no body roll and that handles well on high speed. Reliable,good looking,sexy sounding car on the road.
I noticed when you hit the downshift paddle, it didn't seem to blip or revmatch the downshift. It just sort of did a lazy spin up. Do only the GT S sport have this feature?
Very good review. I have a Quattroporte Duo Select and I love it. With a bit of help of a sensitive throttle foot you can achieve nice and smooth gear shifts. I love this car, the looks, the sound, the handling, the interior, just fantastic.
I love quattroporte alot, but the duo select transmission was actually electronically controlled manual gearbox, without a torque converter, which means if you drive by using pedal shifters to change gears the clutch will last way longer then using the automatic mode, because of lack of torque converter the clutch was constantly slipping and that caused the wear of the clucht much faster than it would in manual mode. Here in Europe I have seen duo select making way over 100ooo km with first clutch, however in the USA they just don't like manual mode so they use auto. mode more frequently which destroyed the clutch. Now days u can buy a bypasses electronic unit " drive by wire" which updates the old electronic system and makes the auto mode better to drive without destroying the clutch.
Thank you! It is a lot of work but it's fun and lets me practice my English. If I'm lucky, I'll get a new audience from outside the Spanish-speaking world.
Great review! I like reviews that dispel rumors but also give a reality check. I think the bottom line is that these are GREAT cars for SOME people. Who exactly? At this point, I'd say it's approaching enthusiast territory -- but, even then, not for most enthusiasts.
What was incredible & sad was that Maserati did the same mistake again as with the Biturbo. To make a brilliant car that had to many serious flaws at the start. The later Biturbos are definitely not very unreliable, they are like most cars in terms of reliability. But the bad reputation early Biturbos got make even the later ones cheap. I often hear that late Biturbos are the best classic luxury car you can get for low price. Then they made the same mistake again with Quattroporte. Both Biturbo & Quattroporte are fantastic cars. It´s a shame they couldn´t deliver the right product from start.
@@abriatus if you want to buy as cheaply as possible, then it happens. I haven't had any problems... I've been driving for four years. German cars are not reliable.
@@kasparsgrinbergs6001 Well, it's what I said in the video. Although, I should say I have owned my fair share of German cars and never had any major issues.
You also can get a Duo select and than convert to manual stick. Also you can try some selespeed from Alfa Romeo when changing components because basically it's the same maybe the clutch size is different and even that you can search after size and find cheap.
I loved my Duo Select, I loved the great engine. I used a lot and never had real problems! It is truly a great car, especially compared to newer models!
But the Ferrari engine in a Ferrari has a flat plane crank vs the Quattroporte V8 has a conventional cross plane crank! I love the sound better in the Quattroporte!
Great video. Worth noting the Maserati engine is a cross plane crank compared to a Ferrari flat plane crank. The sounds are totally different. I prefer the Maserati noise.
I liked how you blurred the "Speedometer. New subscriber. Hint Hint. As one who is into "Car Stereos" none of the reviewers of the finer cars ever talk about the premium brand stereo they have in them, and talk about them. I'd also go into a little more detail about the suspension, exhaust etc etc,. And a few more pictures under the hood. lol`
A great presentation of the Quattroporte! I own a Duo-Select car and I totally love it! I have more than 50'000 km on my dlutch and it works perfectly fine. If you are willing to treat this car gently it will reward you greatly. I will definitly keep mine - I love it so much! It is such a pleasure to drive! But it is not a Ferrari sports car - it is a fast cruiser with great handling characteristics.
The Fifth Generation of Quattroporte is the best sedan ever produced by Italians. The problem with the “unreliable sh*tbox” myth of the Quattroporte is because people who never owned this cars are speaking about it. The DuoSelect was a problem of course, but in “Automatica” version (The ZF Gearbox), it’s the best car you can buy in a reasonable price range for those type of automobiles. Grazie Ferrari, grazie Maserati.
Great simple & very informative video... You deserve more views & subscribers 🤲 Keep it up and I look forward to more reviews from you 🥰... Liked & Sub'd 🏆
Comentario por aqui para subir el rango del video. Y de paso saludos al Madrileno, veo que filmabas por Madrid. Pienso tambien de comprar uno, tenia que dejar en Espana Lancia Thesis 3.0 despues de mudanza.
Incredible review! Love this car and am considering selling my 09 CLS63 for one of these. So sexy and sounds incredible. Just started my channel also. Keep it up!
These cars are severely underrated, but they are still not cheap to maintain. You might find one for Toyota money, but you'll find it costs about as much as a Ferrari does to maintain. That's perfectly okay, but it's a caveat that should be addressed nevertheless.
Great car with proper engine. Nice review style, perhaps you should wear a jacket/smart shoes when reviewing this type of car and leave the coat and trainers to the Audi/Volkswagen reviews! :)
In Europe, it costs from €25,000. the most beautiful sedan in the world. excellently worked car. competitor could be aston martin rapid, panarema gts. mercedes and bmw are very unreliable cars and the quality and brand are also much lower
I hav a 2009 Maserati QP Executive GT. At 53k miles, i replaced the variator even tho it was "not" broken yet bcoz i did not want to be in the middle of nowhere when variator dies. I replaced with factory RECOMMENDED variator from TEM tec of Napa Valley; dealer did the work. After replace, my Maserati runs like silk butter! It even gets better gas milage. I took this opportunity n changed out the entire cooling system; radiator, thermostat, oil reserve, aux fan, etc. i also changed out 3(three) engine mounts, front link connectors with all new bushings as well as full replacements of 4 suspensions n bushings. Why stop here? Replaced the full speaker system with crazy power amp + Bovee 30pin-to-bluetooth converter. Sound system is NOT tuned to be loud but it's superbly clean n never talk over the beautiful exhaust note tuned by Ferrari.
As soon as you even remotely mention buying one you get so much hate it's incredible. Especially the M139. If they weren't universally unloved, they would be worth the same as its rivals.
"Most people hate this fifth generation Quattroporte". What kind of bullshit is this? Every car enthousiast i know has a special place in their heart for the Quattroporte and it's spectacular engine sound, and every non enthousiast simply doesn't know the car. I have never met anyone who hates this car.
Yeah, when it comes to driving experience. But as soon as you even remotely mention buying one you get so much hate it's incredible. Especially the M139. If they weren't universally unloved, they would be worth the same as its rivals.
@galolei it’s not exactly the sound nor the looks what people criticize about the Quattroporte. Most of the criticism is directed towards its reliability, which is what I'm addressing in this video.
@@abriatus Yeah, but you said "most people hate the 5th generation Quattroporte" while pointing on a second gen model from 2009. Literally nobody hates that Quattroporte, so a review of it wont change any of the justified hate towards the first generation. That's all I'm saying.
@@martins.28 But the 2009 Quattroporte is a 5th generation (post-restyling) Quattroporte. The Quattroporte name has been used by Maserati since the 60s.
Sorry, but you must only hang out with people who own italian cars or love Maseratis, but this car gets a lot of hate. Especially when someone seriously considers getting one. People not liking it is also reflected on its price, much lower than many of its rivals.
I don't think they're hated on, I just think they're mostly unknown. Think of it this way, they made fewer QP5's during the entire run than Porsche makes 911's in a single year. Also, the early cars had issues (let's face it, duoselect sucked) so that colored many peoples opinions. I have a Sport GT S, and everyone that see's it loves it...and many have no idea what kind of car it is. I love that they're so rare!
Been daily driving my 09 QP sport GTS for several years, it is more reliable than the Porsches I previously owned.
doing the same with my 16 ghibli s been daily driving not bad at all. hopefully it will last longer then the all the BMW I owned in the past.
Do you still have it? How’s it been?
That's good...
Ma man, preach!!! Amazing video. I have a 2010 QP Sports GTS and I think this car (the 5th generation in particular) is SSSSOOO overlooked and undervalued. It’s a hidden gem of a car.
I just bought a 2010 GTS! Love it! The maintenance cost is so much less and overall more fun and reliable than an S63 AMG.
100% 🔱🇮🇹❤️
Hushh! Keep quite! Dont wake up the market :) . I will get one at some point with a good price.
I hav a 2009 QP Executive GT since new. It has been surprisingly reliable for about 46000 miles. Then the regular required maintenance kicked in.
It's really normal repairs n nothing special; timing belt, suspension bushings, front connecting rod bushings, engine variator, cooling system replacements, engine mount replacements, O2 sensor, electric window motor replacements...nothing i haven't done on my Toyotas, Hondas, VW, Volvo, even BMW's.
Problem is comparatively small volume in cars produced (comparing to Toyota, for example) thereby INCREASING owners' cost of repairs due to low economy of scale.
Maserati (Ferrari) did not make MILLIONS of Quattroporte 4.7 but maybe about 20,000 of the M139 from 2007-2013.
Only 20,000 cars with Ferrari sourced engine, suspension, exhaust, cooling system...there are just 20,000 of us shouldering all the costs & NOT the 3-5MILLION Camry, Accord owners all sharing the cost of their repair bills.
I easily spent 1 entire new Camry/Accord in repairs when my Maserati hit 52k thru to now 56k miles. I love my Maserati QP 4.7 & it gives me such pleasure to know it runs perfectly in mechanical Zen n can be driven with such anonymity on the road...until i press the "SPORT" button n hit the throttle. 🎉😮🎉
Love Maserati M139 , it’s one of the best Maserati ever built as you get 4 doors Ferrari engine car for pennies compared even cheapest Ferrari California. It’s so enjoyable to drive for every day or sport driving. Plus, it’s a great investing as they still so undervalue. Thanks for video.
never cared about the bad comments on Maseratis... I love every single one of them.
I would take this one over all BMWs, Mercedes, Jags, Astons, Bentley, ESPECIALLY PORSCHEs etc
I m maserati quattroporte owner with same engine and zf transmission like yours. like u said most underrated car on the road because of older version they realy sucks but from late 2007 to 2012 they got zf transmission 6 speed with engine that goes to Ferrari 460
I own it 6 years and only issue i had is chenging coolant hose on the back of the engine that's it in 6 years.
I love my car gives me goosebumps every time i floor it,still after 6 years.
U didn't mention that is perfect weightet car 51-49 no body roll and that handles well on high speed.
Reliable,good looking,sexy sounding car on the road.
I noticed when you hit the downshift paddle, it didn't seem to blip or revmatch the downshift. It just sort of did a lazy spin up. Do only the GT S sport have this feature?
Very good review. I have a Quattroporte Duo Select and I love it. With a bit of help of a sensitive throttle foot you can achieve nice and smooth gear shifts. I love this car, the looks, the sound, the handling, the interior, just fantastic.
Thank you very much!
Fuaaaaaa gateishon... very emotional!!!! Congrats... Lucas!
I love quattroporte alot, but the duo select transmission was actually electronically controlled manual gearbox, without a torque converter, which means if you drive by using pedal shifters to change gears the clutch will last way longer then using the automatic mode, because of lack of torque converter the clutch was constantly slipping and that caused the wear of the clucht much faster than it would in manual mode. Here in Europe I have seen duo select making way over 100ooo km with first clutch, however in the USA they just don't like manual mode so they use auto. mode more frequently which destroyed the clutch. Now days u can buy a bypasses electronic unit " drive by wire" which updates the old electronic system and makes the auto mode better to drive without destroying the clutch.
Lucas congratulations for your dual language videos... It seems like a lot of work... regards from the amazing Lima, Perú
Thank you! It is a lot of work but it's fun and lets me practice my English. If I'm lucky, I'll get a new audience from outside the Spanish-speaking world.
Great review! I like reviews that dispel rumors but also give a reality check. I think the bottom line is that these are GREAT cars for SOME people. Who exactly? At this point, I'd say it's approaching enthusiast territory -- but, even then, not for most enthusiasts.
FFS! Please keep hating this amazing car! It will keep the prices down 🤫
I have a 2012 4.7S. Surprisingly reliable. Would only chop it in for a 612 on the family car front
What was incredible & sad was that Maserati did the same mistake again as with the Biturbo. To make a brilliant car that had to many serious flaws at the start. The later Biturbos are definitely not very unreliable, they are like most cars in terms of reliability. But the bad reputation early Biturbos got make even the later ones cheap. I often hear that late Biturbos are the best classic luxury car you can get for low price.
Then they made the same mistake again with Quattroporte. Both Biturbo & Quattroporte are fantastic cars. It´s a shame they couldn´t deliver the right product from start.
I think you've made some good points! I just picked one of these up myself
"Stop Hating on the Maserati Quattroporte! " Said absolutely no one ever...
I wish that were the case, but these Quattroportes get a very bad rep.
@@abriatus if you want to buy as cheaply as possible, then it happens. I haven't had any problems... I've been driving for four years. German cars are not reliable.
@@kasparsgrinbergs6001 Well, it's what I said in the video. Although, I should say I have owned my fair share of German cars and never had any major issues.
You also can get a Duo select and than convert to manual stick. Also you can try some selespeed from Alfa Romeo when changing components because basically it's the same maybe the clutch size is different and even that you can search after size and find cheap.
Exactly!
Great review. Liked and subscribed. I have a 2011 year.
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
I loved my Duo Select, I loved the great engine. I used a lot and never had real problems! It is truly a great car, especially compared to newer models!
But the Ferrari engine in a Ferrari has a flat plane crank vs the Quattroporte V8 has a conventional cross plane crank! I love the sound better in the Quattroporte!
Great video. Worth noting the Maserati engine is a cross plane crank compared to a Ferrari flat plane crank. The sounds are totally different. I prefer the Maserati noise.
Plus a research in 2008 proved that the sound of this maserati engine increases seductively
I liked how you blurred the "Speedometer. New subscriber. Hint Hint. As one who is into "Car Stereos" none of the reviewers of the finer cars ever talk about the premium brand stereo they have in them, and talk about them. I'd also go into a little more detail about the suspension, exhaust etc etc,. And a few more pictures under the hood. lol`
A great presentation of the Quattroporte! I own a Duo-Select car and I totally love it! I have more than 50'000 km on my dlutch and it works perfectly fine. If you are willing to treat this car gently it will reward you greatly. I will definitly keep mine - I love it so much! It is such a pleasure to drive! But it is not a Ferrari sports car - it is a fast cruiser with great handling characteristics.
The Fifth Generation of Quattroporte is the best sedan ever produced by Italians.
The problem with the “unreliable sh*tbox” myth of the Quattroporte is because people who never owned this cars are speaking about it.
The DuoSelect was a problem of course, but in “Automatica” version (The ZF Gearbox), it’s the best car you can buy in a reasonable price range for those type of automobiles.
Grazie Ferrari, grazie Maserati.
Thanks for a brilliantly informative and entertaining video. PS in English we call them “grab handles”
Thank you! I had no idea
Nice reviews
id really love one of these but what's peoples thoughts on its length
Great video 👍🏻
Great simple & very informative video... You deserve more views & subscribers 🤲 Keep it up and I look forward to more reviews from you 🥰... Liked & Sub'd 🏆
Comentario por aqui para subir el rango del video. Y de paso saludos al Madrileno, veo que filmabas por Madrid. Pienso tambien de comprar uno, tenia que dejar en Espana Lancia Thesis 3.0 despues de mudanza.
Is the 2008 4.2 model a dry or wet sump? It does have the ZF automatic for reference
Hi! It's a dry sump
What do you mean losing any oil will grenade the engine because it's dry sumped?
Should I ? 1st time buyer tips?.
Un monton de componentes se han trasladado de Lancia Thesis a Maserati Quattroporte.
Your 09 actually has later type stereo system it seems
Agreed, beautiful car 💪🏻💪🏻
I am 2012 4:7 has any one done any upgrades
very nice review...
Thank you!
Incredible review! Love this car and am considering selling my 09 CLS63 for one of these. So sexy and sounds incredible. Just started my channel also. Keep it up!
That's great! Just subscribed
@@abriatus oh wow thanks! That new Giulia video is great!
@@ErikzappI was looking at cls63 but this car seems cheaper for the facelift models I wouldn’t go with the duo select how do you like yours tho?
These cars are severely underrated, but they are still not cheap to maintain. You might find one for Toyota money, but you'll find it costs about as much as a Ferrari does to maintain. That's perfectly okay, but it's a caveat that should be addressed nevertheless.
The funny thing is: I properly maintain my cars. And in the last 25 years not one has broken down on me. American and German.
Those side mirrors looked oddly familiar. Now I can brag that my car has parts from a Maserati.
Hmmm, always been a fan.
That's about 13 mpg for us 'Muricans. 😉
Great car with proper engine. Nice review style, perhaps you should wear a jacket/smart shoes when reviewing this type of car and leave the coat and trainers to the Audi/Volkswagen reviews! :)
Hahahaha, that's a good tip, thanks! Perhaps I was better dressed when reviewing my Mercedes C Class Coupe that you can find on this channel. Cheers
In Europe, it costs from €25,000. the most beautiful sedan in the world. excellently worked car. competitor could be aston martin rapid, panarema gts. mercedes and bmw are very unreliable cars and the quality and brand are also much lower
That's crazy to sell a car where a new clutch is needed for the transmission once a year at $4,000. For that price you can buy a whole transmission!
I want one, but the $4000 tune up is a deal breaker.
Most of the tune up you can do yourself if mechanically inclined. They are not hard to work on.
buenisima abriatus
Most ppl hate this car in America? DeMuro fanbase must be that big😄
Have you had the variators checked?
I hav a 2009 Maserati QP Executive GT. At 53k miles, i replaced the variator even tho it was "not" broken yet bcoz i did not want to be in the middle of nowhere when variator dies.
I replaced with factory RECOMMENDED variator from TEM tec of Napa Valley; dealer did the work.
After replace, my Maserati runs like silk butter! It even gets better gas milage.
I took this opportunity n changed out the entire cooling system; radiator, thermostat, oil reserve, aux fan, etc. i also changed out 3(three) engine mounts, front link connectors with all new bushings as well as full replacements of 4 suspensions n bushings.
Why stop here?
Replaced the full speaker system with crazy power amp + Bovee 30pin-to-bluetooth converter. Sound system is NOT tuned to be loud but it's superbly clean n never talk over the beautiful exhaust note tuned by Ferrari.
It funny when he mention panamera when Panamera only released from 2012
You’ll hate it too once you get your first repair bill
i have never seen anyone hating on the quattroporte, especially this generation. i don't get where the title is coming from.
As soon as you even remotely mention buying one you get so much hate it's incredible. Especially the M139. If they weren't universally unloved, they would be worth the same as its rivals.
They call those, oh shit holders.
"Most people hate this fifth generation Quattroporte".
What kind of bullshit is this? Every car enthousiast i know has a special place in their heart for the Quattroporte and it's spectacular engine sound, and every non enthousiast simply doesn't know the car. I have never met anyone who hates this car.
In English it's a "Oh shit! handle".
Most people hate? Most people don't even know what it is.
I should’ve said “Most people who know what a Maserati Quattroporte is wouldn’t buy one of these in a million years” 😂
11-13 miles per gallon.
most people hate the what the f are you talking about my dude?
Grandad car
Dude gets a like already because of he is driving an Alfa. Ciao from another Alfisti.
Sorry but who hates the m139? It gets rave reviews from journalists who matter everyone I know loves them.
Yeah, when it comes to driving experience. But as soon as you even remotely mention buying one you get so much hate it's incredible. Especially the M139. If they weren't universally unloved, they would be worth the same as its rivals.
Talking about Maserati as it was Toyota, it's a little silly.
Literally nobody hates that car, but ok.
Market values beg to differ. Go on any car forum and say you’ve bought a 1st gen Quattroporte, you’ll get roasted. Cheers!
Haha. Known to have the best looks and sound ever, so quite strange to claim nobody likes it😂
@galolei it’s not exactly the sound nor the looks what people criticize about the Quattroporte. Most of the criticism is directed towards its reliability, which is what I'm addressing in this video.
@@abriatus Yeah, but you said "most people hate the 5th generation Quattroporte" while pointing on a second gen model from 2009. Literally nobody hates that Quattroporte, so a review of it wont change any of the justified hate towards the first generation. That's all I'm saying.
@@martins.28 But the 2009 Quattroporte is a 5th generation (post-restyling) Quattroporte. The Quattroporte name has been used by Maserati since the 60s.
This engine has a wet sump
That is correct, as mentioned in the video. Cheers!
Stop saying Maserati quattro portte like that 😂, it sounds siilly
Really cool car but they are ssssoooo slow!
A car with a top speed of 177 MPH is not slow at all lol
Show me even one man who hate his car! What are this crazy opinion from? A bit low professional to speak such way.
Sorry, but you must only hang out with people who own italian cars or love Maseratis, but this car gets a lot of hate. Especially when someone seriously considers getting one. People not liking it is also reflected on its price, much lower than many of its rivals.
*promo sm* 🎊
................................... No!!!@!!!!!
Beginner, omg. And 458’s engine, but with flat-plane crankshaft.
I don't think they're hated on, I just think they're mostly unknown. Think of it this way, they made fewer QP5's during the entire run than Porsche makes 911's in a single year. Also, the early cars had issues (let's face it, duoselect sucked) so that colored many peoples opinions. I have a Sport GT S, and everyone that see's it loves it...and many have no idea what kind of car it is. I love that they're so rare!