Bruce asks for help from Dr. Meridian | Batman Forever

[@MrJedabak]

This movie had a couple of brilliant moments. Having Bruce Wayne look at a random Rorschach ink blot and immediately assume it’s a bat is perfect for the character.

[@M0butu]

nothing random about that "inkblot". don't tell me you saw a frog.

[@LioGunne]

I saw more of a bird or a butterfly than a bat.

[@owenedward144]

@@M0butu i saw a 1989 ford sierra

[@Jason_N7]

I wouldn't go so far as call it brilliant. I think, being as intelligent as Bruce is... he'd know what a Rorschach inkblot would be, since he's inside an office of a psychologist. And he definitely wouldn't give himself away by mentioning it's a bat.

[@mitchjames9350]

Because it looks exactly like a bat, I mean look at it.

[@mallaymusic3023]

Rewatching this as an adult and I’m clocking Dr. Meridian saying “You look so sad…” at 2:39-I never considered before that he might feel sad looking at that doll because it reminds him of how he failed his friend, Harvey Dent.

[@masterexploder9668]

He looks genuinely sad and haunted, Val Kilmer carries it really well. Movie is pretty mixed, which I think somewhat ruins Val as well. Keaton explained some time ago that he left due to Burton also leaving the project and the decision to go in a "lighter" direction. Plenty of Schumacher's deleted scenes do show that tone of the original cut wouldn't actually be that much different from previous entries, but higher ups wanted a "lighter" tone and more plastic to sell more toys, apparently. Perhaps Keaton saw the writings on the wall and decided to bail out.

[@CharlesRaines4946]

I wish that there could be the slightest hint that Bruce Wayne and Harvey Dent were friends, a framed photo of the 2 of them side by side on the wall of Bruce's office or in his study.

[@mew10521]

I never noticed that

[@RShadow12]

Val Kilmer is literally the live action version of Conroy’s Bruce Wayne

[@rhetiq9989]

Gabe Selden I noticed both their bruce wayne voices sound very similar as well

[@luisdorado8562]

You know when you put it that way it almost looks like that Val Kilmer is related to Kevin Conroy.

[@user-oh5gm9ry7o]

Is that the actor from the animated series?

[@RShadow12]

AffirmedJuggler I Yes

[@aaronkenyon7112]

Apparently Bob Kane liked Val Kilmers version the most

[@GeorgeAddison87]

0:22
"Good. Then you can afford to buy me a new door".
Love Chase. She can deliver a knockout punch and a knockout punchline with equal ease.

[@jessejames863]

well it's a film and those are the lines in the script. lol.

[@GeorgeAddison87]

@@jessejames863 Well, technically not since that scene wasn't in the original script! It was Kidman's suggestion to Schumacher to incorporate her current kickboxing passion within the character.

[@Dakid015]

Like how Chase started out cold to Bruce, but she started warming up to him and her interest started to build as the scene went on. The Bruce Wayne effect

[@fletcherhamilton3177]

I never noticed before how in playing Bruce Wayne Kilmer perfectly blended the ‘alpha male’ insouciance of the Brosnanian Bond with the ‘socially awkward dork’ who mumbles half-formed sentences and over-apologizes / gesticulates too much. It’s quite an underrated iteration of the character. He’s reduced to being a temporary fool because this woman honestly encapsulates him and reduces him to a stuttering mess, but _instantly_ he’s back on his feet, being suave and charming with zero embarrassment for his botched entrance and bad first impression mere seconds ago.

[@mew10521]

Wow I never noticed that

[@JavierGonzalez-lp3ke]

Val Kilmer never quite received the credit he deserved as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Bruce is complex; Kilmer portrays him well, as a man who doesn't know how to fit in with everyone else. He's hiding so much under the exterior yet he is choosing to constantly play it all off as if nothing's bothering him even though everything about his inner world is. Kilmer shows these subtleties quite well

[@jameslandon1293]

Somehow I think Bruce, knew what the riddles were, and wanted to Dr Chase. Don’t blame him. She’s cute.

[@John-vi2st]

Of course lol

[@meghana.m.v5739]

👌👌👍

[@wadeadpool4796]

The World's Greatest Detective asks a psychiatrist for help on a riddle....yea he wanted them drawz

[@MrGreen-qr5pe]

James Landon no SHIT!

[@johngonzalez4298]

I thought she looked good.

[@theQuestion626]

they had really great chemistry together. I have to say she was underappreciated in this role she was really good

[@nathaniel8328]

Val Kilmer and Nicole Kidman had some good chemistry in the movie.

[@lw3646]

Yeah they first establish her as this super intelligent expert in psychology, then as into kickboxing and you think she might have some big role. But she does nothing to contribute to capturing Two Face, she just flirts the whole film.

[@latrolettteeeeeee]

THIS BITCH WAS BEYOND USELESS IN THIS FILM

[@blackwaltz3135]

@@latrolettteeeeeee she was eye candy, thats enough lol

[@Andrea-dp5hs]

Nicole es linda pero me hubiera gustado otra mujer en esta peli o villana

[@2507jasonpoon]

Bruce: I really have to get you out of those clothes 😏🤭
Dr Chase: excuse me? 😳
Bruce : and into a black dress... tell me dr, do u like the circus? 😂
Damn Bruce is a flirting master 🤪

[@alexG106]

Says that exact same line in 2020: BRUCE WAYNE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED ME

[@kuallalumpur5417]

@@alexG106
HaHa...Good one.

[@lw3646]

@Heschewingonit dozens of women have signed non disclosure agreements with Bruce Wayne lol.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

That shit was so weird that I forgot it and then a year later responded to it.

[@schaef0]

you spelled "circus" wrong. he says "THIRCUTHS"

[@paulblodgett4072]

Val kilmer did a great job playing Bruce Wayne and Batman deff brought a Kevin Conroy Vibe worked out great

[@tylerlamb9930]

He deserved a better script.

[@angelobabys2k]

Or a better director

[@kryptonianpowers]

I can tell Kilmer's portrayal of Batman channels exactly how Kevin Conroy did.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

I 100% agree. He's better than Conroy (especially from the new Batman adventures, Justice league and the CW). That's my opinion. Feels more like the character. Conroy was too manly. Conroy is fine in the animated series but still think kilmer is THE BEST Batman. High praise I know. My opinion is Bruce greenwood in Young Justice s1 and 2 is the best Batman voice. My opinion but Yes I 100% agree with the point you made. He did channel that

[@thenoirknight5729]

Wish we got the full film still. Why can't we have an official Directors Cut

[@ZyxthePest]

"Tell me doctor...do you like the circuth?"
Val Kilmer's slight lisp there always gets me hahaha.

[@steveguse4481]

*mike tyson pulls off his Val Kilmer mask

[@greenman9123]

Lmfao

[@Deadmancrawler]

Lol would of been funnier if he sed...Do you bleed???

[@greenman9123]

@@Deadmancrawler and then he drinks it straight from the tap?

[@pt29999]

not as bad as Christian Bale's lisp

[@gorrow1990]

Chase really should have suspected that Bruce was Batman when he knocked over that door so easily.

[@jameslandon1293]

gor9027 anyone could knock that door down.

[@jayNicks10]

Well hey, it’s not like only Batman could’ve knocked that door down, Batman is strong and agile but he doesn’t have Super human strength or any super powers like that.

[@bronosx2246]

Really? So you fucking expect that no one else can knock a fucking door down???!!!!

[@-Vitalis-]

It's clear you wouldn't make a living as a private detective.

[@iGotEm]

Or the bat pic

[@anthonyvega-fujioka4464]

Chase Meridian working out to become the queen of Atlantis

[@LandonRicketss]

Shiittt, I never thought about it

[@kryptonianpowers]

She wouldn't need to work out if she was submersed or doused in water because Atlanteans would be the aquatic equivalent of Superman.
In a lot of fiction, water is a major factor for both strength and healing to Atlanteans. Such as if they are out of the water for too long, they would dry up like a fish and would require water to rejuvenate them back to their full strength, and if they suffered grievous wounds and internal body damage, water would heal them as fast as Wolverine and Sabertooth's respective healing factors.

[@SoapNugget]

WOW

[@powguma]

I didn't understand this. It seems she was an original character for this movie.

[@powguma]

Ah... I forgot the actress was in the new movie.

[@gershwinq]

1:28 The way she looks at him

[@1.618_Murphy]

This whole scene was great on multiple levels! It shows Bruce's peak physical and mental prowess, breaking that 2-inch-thick door with barely a 10-feet of momentum, and doing it on his first attempt while maintaining a clean gentleman look! Kilmer did a Conroy voice with the perfect attitude! Rorschach reference and Dr. Meridian being only 1 step behind telling Bruce's real identity without even realizing it (yep, Bruce Wayne is a mask, Batman is his real identity)! This was brilliant!

[@Dead-Ball-Situation]

This scene is PERFECT. I love the sexual tension between them. The dialogue just has you on edge during every second. And Nicole Kidman here is beyond beautiful.
"I really need to get you out of those clothes"
"Excuse me?" 😂

[@AllenHanPR]

Nicole Kidman was in her prime in this movie. She was gorgeous.

[@kryptonianpowers]

"I prefer healthy expressions of violence as opposed to breaking and entering."

[@gershwinq]

1:22 The way he looks at her!!

[@IncredibleFulk1]

I’ve always wondered if Nicole Kidman was intended to be Black Canary and this was meant to be a nod to it?
She fits much of the criteria. She’s blonde, wears a lot of black, wears fishnets in some scenes, was a therapist sometimes and was a love interest of Batman at one point.
Just a thought.

[@Trev0r98]

She's not blonde, she's a redhead (aka, a "ginger").

[@bufflatino5121]

​@@Trev0r98 *Incorrect. She's CLEARLY blonde HERE. Her hair was dyed.*

[@Trev0r98]

@@bufflatino5121 Looks red to me, bruh.

[@talimtiger9384]

Val was so handsome in this movie.

[@maximusolybrius4612]

Geez, Tom Cruise… you messed up big time, son! She was gorgeous 🔥

[@visionist7]

"show me a good looking gal I'll show you a guy tired of fuckin her"

[@animatedink2529]

Nicole Kidman in this movie was, to quote my boy Negan, "super hot!"

[@latrolettteeeeeee]

Vicki was way better

[@brendancadogan6235]

@@latrolettteeeeeee no chance

[@camwithextra0023]

Plus she's the wife of Keith Urban.

[@thomasspongeconductor2222]

@@camwithextra0023
She has aged phenomenally.

[@mexiwolf009]

This movie was Nicole Kidman at her sexiest. She is so breath taking in this film.

[@paulg6527]

Val Kilmer, very underrated Batman.

[@youtubemember1115]

The way Val Kilmer says "wacko, is that a technical term?" gives me an asmr feeling

[@RXdash78]

Every now and then you get flashes of the serious batman film schumacher wanted to makes instead of the toy commercials he was forced to make.

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

Not so Fun fact: when you sign an agreement to meet with a therapist, there’s a law saying you cannot go on dates with your therapist or hang out with them outside the context of an appointment.

[@mew10521]

Well he's Bruce Wayne

[@Mitjitsu]

To hell with that when Bruce Wayne is asking you out.

[@GabrielCroft]

The calming vibes in this scene introduced me to ASMR when I was a kid. Love it

[@youtubemember1115]

Ever since I was a kid, I get an asmr feeling when Val Kilmer says wacko twice in this scene

[@sergs1963]

Knocking down that door in a single charge is just a piece of cake to Bruce. Val's Batman is the physically strongest of the Batmen in the Burton-Schumacher films. If you recall in the opening scene with Two Face he lifted open a bank vault door that likely weighs more than a ton with one arm only.

[@gregorymoore2877]

"Why Chase Meridian. You look like somebody just... walked over your door." 😉

[@aladee1]

Anyone else notice Kidman slipping back into her Australian accent at 1:38 ?

[@longmemory1620]

and the golden globe goes to .. sean penn mystic riva

[@thomasspongeconductor2222]

Nicole Kidman has aged phenomenally.

[@daanmaluku]

After all these years I noticed that Edward didn’t use gloves while making his riddles. Fingerprints all over the place. 😂😂😂

[@priscillajimenez27]

True

[@jasonchilado]

3:10 this flew over my head as a kid. Whatever reason I remember the line vividly when I was 8 but didn’t know what he meant at all 😂

[@John-vi2st]

That inkblot rorschach is like social media, it may feel like the truth to you even if it's not.

[@muhammadandraaditya4802]

Bruce Wayne taught me the smooth way to ask a woman for a date here 👍👍👍

[@mew10521]

Ha ha ha ha

[@ChrisFilmPresents]

02:11 the crossover moment of Batman and Rorschach

[@samuraishinobi]

You beat me to it. When do think about it though, both Rorschach and Batman are very similar. They dished out their own type of Justice only accept Rorschach is a little more violent.

[@Adam-kk4zi]

The sound design in this scene left an impact on me as a kid. Still just as good hearing it as an adult.

[@victortaylor7737]

Being a phycarishist Chase should've deduced not anyone could knock down a door that reinforced and that unusually riddle Bruce handed her was a giveaway.but Bruce actually was crazy about her he couldn't help it.she is a doll too

[@aceshighdueceslow]

I get the feeling that she really did know but wanted to keep up pretenses to a) not scare him off and b) not risk either of their safety. Since she's a psych she knows full well the consequences that can happen with patients if you betray their trust

[@nathanielgarza9198]

@@joeyondakeys I think it’s more they live in a place with someone stubbing their toe give them homicidal tendencies

[@dtechzsama]

val is effortless as bruce wayne . very underrated the movie is okey

[@MegaTech81]

God damn she really was a beauty

[@larrypoppins6273]

The hell are you on, she still is.

[@brandoncomer6492]

@@larrypoppins6273 no she's not, she's old. Quit your bullshit.

[@alosim1541]

@TheLoneWolf706 I’m not an expert but I think they age or something

[@LukeLovesRose]

For her age, Nicole still is

[@sheilastoysdollsanddiys8237]

If someone broke through my door I would scream! She didn't even jump!

[@ScoobGruber]

Luckily she wasn't buffing her beaver.

[@Deadmancrawler]

Lol i laughed wen bruce sed "i really gotta get u out of those clothes" damn tease. And the last line, i had the thought of him saying: "tell me doctor.....do u bleed?" Hahaha

[@Magnum44suicde]

9 people don't like tha thircuss

[@unhommequicourt]

Imagine if Meridian was actually doing these noises because she was freaking and Bruce comes in like that XD

[@ahceda09]

Way to go Iceman! Good to meet Maverick wife at that time.

[@MrJimmy3459]

That's right, never occurred to me........

[@polanskyf]

Bruce Wayne is such a playboy…
In the meantime: “Do you like the fircus, doc?”

[@Agent1W]

2:02 I honestly don't know how fast she picked up on that.

[@RShadow12]

She’s a criminal psychologist, and an expert in her field who was specially requested to come to Gotham to help with the Two-Face case. Things like “obsession” are her specialty, so it’s not surprising she picked up on it with Bruce (given his reaction to the rorschach)

[@kenjamin9147]

1:19 I have no idea why, but that's the sound a mailbox makes when it 'coughs' out a new letter in Wind Waker

[@gracielarivera6465]

Why isn’t Dr Chase Meridian featured in any other Batman films nor animated ones?

[@hkr0065]

She was just invented for this movie.

[@karlredneck514]

And she might be from a support group like officer Gordon

[@jayNicks10]

She’s the only girlfriend in this series that’s not from the comics.
Rachel also wasn’t from the comics.

[@sdasi1315]

ok I know rorschach's are a real thing but I feel like 90% of people would at thing and see Bat.

[@MrParkerman6]

They aren't a real thing. They have been proven to be bullshit when it comes to offering any real insight.

[@joecupidpowerranger]

Nicole Kidman kind of so looks like Bridgette Wilson Sonya Blade from Mortal Kombat 1995

[@keithornstead7559]

Great role model from Nicole Kidman for schoolchildren who love to study, plan on college, and want to have stellar careers that'll help them move up in the world.

[@keithornstead7559]

Also recommended are: Peabody from Mr Peabody and Sherman, online daily comic strips "Working Daze ,Pajama Diaries, and 9 Chickweed Lane", and from the Simpsons wiki pages - Dr Julius Hibbert. All big brains with better bodies for lower or middle classes. Perfect examples altogether. Even against jerks and idiots.

[@keithornstead7559]

And good for upper class also. But I still wouldn't recommend Bruce Wayne's secret lifestyle though. It's wrong.

[@vshazam]

Fictional characters are horrible role models, period.

[@M0butu]

@@vshazam But real people with manufactured or "beautified" biographies aren't great either.

[@thenoirknight5729]

@@vshazam Oh... I mean, I think I've turned out fine for the most part

[@paulblodgett4072]

I liked nicole in this her character was a good match to Batman/Bruce Wayne kinda like lois and Superman in a way when u think about it starts off with a Crush for the Superhero then realize the person they really want is right in front of them Clark/Bruce

[@John-vi2st]

They don't make Batman's like this anymore

[@a_fine_edition2746]

Thank god for that.

[@max71461]

@Emerald Hawk Batfleck is literally everything you could've hoped for for a live action Batman to be.

[@veronicamcatee6171]

@@max71461 So you like Batman being a murderer I see.

[@johnboko7110]

@@veronicamcatee6171 Yes problem ?

[@tynao2029]

@@a_fine_edition2746 Nolans Batman movies are garbage...like MCU

[@AnthonyNiroshan]

Hands down the sexiest role Nicole Kidman has ever done!!!

[@CROSSTATT]

I think it's interesting that the one face looks like Edward Nygma (Jim Carey). I wonder if that was helpful in finding out who was giving these riddles.

[@chickychrissy9405]

He was an awesome batman next to michael keaton. I like how bruce wayne still dressed in black when not batman

[@politereminder6284]

The strength of this movie is it's clever (and cheesy) dialogue.

[@chrispeplinski7306]

Bruce and chase were awesome together

[@CROSSTATT]

Chase Meridian and Rachel Dawes should both be in future "Batman" installments.

[@cybermurph04]

I seriously had a such a crush on Nicole Kidman when first saw this movie

[@tatyana6063]

I also remember seeing this movie when I was 9 going on 10. I first watched it then in October 31st in 2003 with my dad and late mom when she was living.

[@algordo1997]

In fairness, Kilmer made a good Brice Wayne/Batman. Clooney? God forbid.

[@Benratbag1997]

_Batman Forever_ might have been the 2nd weakest film of the Burton/Schumacher Batman series (Though it could’ve been the 3rd best if they had released Joel Schumacher’s intended dark version), but you can’t deny this was one of the few great scenes from the movie and as well as Bruce and Alfred solving the riddles and the flashbacks of Batman’s Origins.
Here it’s just a nice dramatic but mysterious scene where Bruce asking Chase about the riddles and questions about her possessions like the bat-like Rorschach and the Malaysian Dream Warden out of curiosity.

[@mrarkus7431]

Lmao that's one way to enter a therapy appointment.

[@loixydelvallemadridlopez1635]

Batman forever una excelente película todos actuaron muy bien un tremenda película

[@elijahwhittier3728]

I can't believe that he actually broke down that 🚪

[@thenoirknight5729]

He is Batman after all. One of the physically strongest DC characters without powers or enhancements

[@Alice0s]

I was laughing so much when I saw this scene for the first time.

[@fear5735]

"I... uh... you uh.... [door knob falls off]"

[@theunknowncommenter725]

#releasetheschumachercut

[@elijahmartinez2870]

#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut

[@thenoirknight5729]

#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut

[@rinpertin2076]

Maverick's Wife Romancing With Iceman😂

[@Mrstealth93]

Hold on. That figurine at 2:25. Could that have been a reference to Enchantress?

[@janedoll3237]

It’s more likely a visual reference to Two Face

[@Mrstealth93]

@@janedoll3237 Perhaps. It mostly were the tribal design of it with the ornate headcrest that made me think it could be. Fairly similar to Enchantress from Suicide Squad.

[@richos07]

1:39 Nicole Kidman’s Australian accent slips out when she says suffer

[@visionist7]

That whole line sounds Australian also "fixation" at 1:56

[@sdlock83]

I'm amazed that Nicole Kidman was speaking with an American accent in this movie.

[@MrParkerman6]

Why? Even though she is australian she speaks american in almost all her movies, yu dumbass.

[@longmemory1620]

when she says suffa

[@LukeLovesRose]

Ever see Eyes Wide Shut?? You're missing out

[@corymiller536]

Well she is american, she was born in Hawaii technically an American

[@thecontinuousone3183]

chase over harley

[@LEOxuan]

From a DC fans percpective, I think that that inkblot (Rorschach) image is a reference to Rorschach from Watchmen, which is made by DC.

[@kryptonianpowers]

Probably so since the *Watchmen* comics were made before the Burton/Schumacher *Batman* movies.
And perhaps the Rorschach that looks like a bat is pretty much a nod to Dr. Meridian's study in medicine with a little hint of her romantic attraction to the Dark Knight.

[@vicdeakins2238]

WHERE’S MY FACE?!

[@weirdwest1702]

Probably not. Rorschach tests are just a very well known tool of psychological study.

[@LukeLovesRose]

They really needed to drop Two Face and concentrate more on Jim Carreys Riddler. He was just too perfect in the role. And look how great he was as Robotnic. They needed to explore more of The Riddler and his games

[@andresjacobo1393]

this, is my favorite part of batman forever is so cool.

[@MrRiddler6]

im pretty sure if you go medical school to be a psychiatrist, they teach you not to use words like wacko.

[@BenjaminGoose]

Good thing she put lipstick on before doing her practice boxing.

[@mew10521]

Bruce Wayne can get me out of my clothes anytime

[@eduardolopez7670]

1:39 describes my current girlfriend too well lmao

[@joew2450]

Gotta say chase took a bit of a leap here. "Cryptic riddle from a potential admirer."
"Yeah that is from a guy that wants to kill you and won't be satisfied until he does."
Like holy shit is that her only diagnosis or something!
Also that "Rorschach" is very clearly bat shaped

[@lw3646]

Yeah that was a bit of a reach. Also that drawing is clearly of a bat, whatever she goes on to claim...

[@michaelfrazierjr3108]

0:06 BITCH SLAM!!!

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

That's a cheap ass door.

[@manlymen552]

Nicole was so hot in this movie

[@Andrea-dp5hs]

La puerta estaba apoyada nada más jajaja

[@jcparker2621]

If Val Kilmer was born in 1977 instead of 1959.
I would definitely like to see him play a Bruce Wayne Batman in the 2010's

[@dt2phillips]

Love Kidman’s leotard! 🔥😍

[@marchionessamoretto7326]

Batman Forever is my favourite movie

[@TZER0]

This is how Iceman met his wife before “Top Gun Maverick”.

[@JE-wg3jv]

Yes.

[@WYJAFAK2]

Tell me doctor, do you like the schurkis?

[@MdW4177]

Would’ve been funny and a great nod to Superman (1978) if she’d said “It’s open, come in.”

[@user-oh5gm9ry7o]

Who the hell makes that much noise punching a bag

[@hkr0065]

Have you ever *hit* a punching bag or done a few rounds? It aint gonna be quiet.

[@user-oh5gm9ry7o]

hkr006 Yeah but I’m not gonna make thunderous orgasmic noises

[@MrParkerman6]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiai

[@briandaleske5139]

I wonder who would get picked to play the character role of (Dr. Meridian) in a BATMAN live-action show series, and wonder who would get picked to play the character role of (Dr. Meridian) in a new type of BATMAN movie?

[@gotyesomeonyouusetoknow]

If she would have been getting shanked up in her office he would have been in a bad situation.

[@past9productions441]

I think this film is legendary.

[@loudtaste1046]

Honestly with a better script he would had been a good Batman

[@thenoirknight5729]

He's already the B:TAS Batman, ripped straight from the series