That was one of the best lines. It made you imagine how much pain and sadness Arthur has felt throughout his entire life, and all of it went by unnoticed by the one person that had to take care of him. Hell, went by unnoticed by EVERYONE.
@Long Nguyen He has a neurological disorder where he has excessive laughter when he feels emotional. So Arthur's only way of expressing emotion is by laughter so when he is sad and wants to cry, it is laughter that comes out. So all those times he was laughing as a boy, he was actually crying.
@Caleb Kent I know what you mean. Unless your hyper focused during the movie and you can ignore those assholes talking at the movies you might miss something. I'm buying a 4K copy of this day 1.
Noticed that too. I'm guessing this is a Gotham from late 70's , early 80's era. So in general smoking was much more prominent and accepted then, of course in Gotham's universe anything goes. it supposed to be urban, dark, and dirty. the smoking fits right in and Phoenix did an outstanding job in making it look cool and blend in well as a part of what the joker does.
kinda sad because it is truly a bad film, and not that there's really any good ones out there right now, but this one definitely doesn't deserve that kinda reception. it feels like it was made by a 10 year old attempting to be deep or edgy
I found that him saying “you wouldn’t get it” was more him accepting his differences from the rest of society and no longer needing acceptance for his mental state rather than thinking of Bruce Wayne’s parents dying
I thought it was years later, when Batman was already a thing, he probably put him in Arkham in the first place. Joker probably realized then that he made Bruce into Batman himself.
"I was wondering if you could ask the doctor to increase my medication." "Arthur, you're on seven different medications. Surely they must be doing something!" "I just don't want to feel so bad anymore." As someone with depression, this exchange almost made me cry. Please treat each other with kindness, folks. You never know how much someone could be suffering inside.
All the controversy surrounding this movie tells me that mainstream media hates a relatable character... Especially if that character has violent tendencies.
The real hero of Joker is the midget. - He is made fun of his whole life. - He probably gets jumped too. - He has the same deadbeat job as Arthur - He is abused at his job - He has no family visible supporting him. - He has no girlfriend that we know of - His only friends are people who are sociopathic and abusive - He’s probably never fulfilled his dreams - He is treated like a freak Dude never becomes evil. Kudos to you little guy.
One big moment, when he does in fact find out he is adopted right there and then you realize that he no longer has an identity, he’s not a Flek or Wayne, he is no one and Joker is no one...amazing
Yes, agree 100%. thats the deeper shit no one is talking about, people sperg with "ooh its just like taxi driver!" without thinking about Phoenix's performance or the amazing directing or screenplay.
AFTER he reads the adoption papers, there’s a flashback scene where his mother is talking to the therapist and he’s just reciting to her the same things Thomas Wayne said, and when Arthur decides to finally dawn the joker he looks at a picture of his mother with the back saying “you look absolutely beautiful” singed by Thomas Wayne!! He crumples it up an throws it over his shoulder. Something he doesn’t notice but the audience sure does
I think thomas had her committed and made to look insane. He's not a fleck or a Wayne. The only people who could tell him are now dead. So really he doesn't know his origin yet it's an origin tale.
J Alves when he crushes the picture of his mother at the end it says, you have a beautiful smile, from TW. or something very similar maybe just a different adjective. This implies that maybe Thomas really did have her committed to cover it up
Has anyone mentioned how his disorder laugh and his actual laugh are totally different? His disorder sounds like a regular laugh, but his true laugh is unsettling and twisted.
common viewer I felt that near the end of the movie his laugh was less of a disorder and more of him actually finding the things he was doing actually funny
6:14 That part was meant to show us how he longs for human contact. A bump in in the elevator with this woman and he starts imagining a relationship with her. Because she was one of the few people who didn’t treat him like trash he clings to her, hence him later in the movie showing up in her apartment telling her he had a bad day. Then obviously there we realise that his relationship with her was nothing more than a fantasy
"The worst things about having a mental Illness is that people expect u to behave as if u dont have one" My favorite quote from the movie from jokers notebook
It difficult for people to deal with complicated issues and often have negative stigmas toward people that have mental issue and some people use it as excuse so that doesn't help
@Oxy Moron It definitely wasn't boring. This isn't your regular cliché action movie. It's a slow movie that shows every event that caused the Joker. It was a very interesting watch.
I do feel like it was extremely interesting some people may find it boring because the movie moves slow to show u all the details but I really enjoyed it excited to have it in my movie collection
Why did I not see that thing? I Only saw "I hope my death makes more cents than my life" , and there's no scene where he's writing jokes ( the scene in the first trailer).
I was told the same thing growing up, turns out being nice to every body saved me from a possible school shooting. I was the only boy in my math class that wasn't found on the hit list.
The saddest part for me was the fact that Arthur was actively trying to get help. He was going to therapy and taking medications. He tried to tell his therapist that the medications weren't working and he was showing her that the type of therapy he was receiving (being locked up and simply talking to someone weekly) wasn't helping. Many times, we are shown that a character just gives up or a character doesn't believe that they are wrong or that they need help, but it isn't often we are shown one that tries to get better only to fail. "Keep trying and you'll succeed." No, sometimes, people try their best over and over, and they still fail and are ruined by the experience.
But there's also a general social commentary pointing out a cruel, but sadly very true reality which is that the elites do really live in their bubble and are completely unaware of the hellhole distress and violence that the lower classes go through every single day of their lives. Well, not unaware per se (they do read news and do see people around them when they are in town), but I mean unaware of what it actually is like and how it feels like to live in those conditions.
Woag It totally does. If you want to be loved, you gotta try to express your love for someone else. But also you don’t want to be loved by someone you don’t like, so you mustn’t push your love if the other person doesn’t want it. Same goes with any kind of relations. And if you don’t want to be abused, you just set a distance in relationships that is comfortable for you and defend yourself if needed, both physically and psychologically. If someone behaves like a total dick, you treat him like you would treat yourself and how you would like to be treated by others if you were behaving the same way.
The “blood smile” standing on top of the cop car was incredible. Is it just me, or did that somewhat feel like a homage to Ledger, with the blood resembling the scars?
he was originally going to cut his mouth with glass, but they didn’t want it to be too much like heath, but the interesting thing is in the original script when he’s in arkham at the end, he is talking to the woman and has the cuts stitched up, indicating the movie was real and not a “joke”
TwistedOwl I had no idea about that. I do love the blood smile and how beautifully dramatic he did it to himself. Not sure how cleanly it would have gone in the scene with the glass, but I am not opposed to it, especially if that would have revealed if it all truly happened or not.
no, it isn’t... it’s more like him naturally smiling. at the beginning of the film he had to force a smile... on top of that car he can smile freely...
This movie is a masterpiece, Joaquin Phoenix is amazing in the movie he deserves an Oscar! This performance honestly rivals Heath Ledgers it's that great, this movie is gonna go down as a classic, I really hope they'll make a sequel and really wish this was apart of the dceu it's easily the best DC movie since the Dark Knight, 10/10
On a rather pessimistic, but realistic note: The media knows exactly what they're doing by highlighting extreme reviews and comments. Having headlines like "Movie theaters to beef up security in case of mass shootings" related to this movie puts that idea into the world. Just like how they make killers into celebrities. It's extremely dangerous, and they're always playing innocent. Disgusting.
The media is foaming at the mouth thinking of the clicks and views that a shooting or mass murderer would give them. Especially if they got to say "told you so" They're hoping all that person needs is a little push, and the media is dying to give it to them.
Not really. So Stuckmann just countered the idea that movies influence people to do stuff. And you just said the media influences people to do stuff. You can't have it both ways.Both mediums might suggest something, but it's still a person who acts upon it that is the real one at fault.
You have to wonder if some of these critics work with the government because this movie kinda opens our eyes we deal with a lot of rich people who get away with a lot of s*** and they do look down on us as well as the government looks down on us so are the government Brighton that we're going to wake up and see them for what they are the rich and the government is that's why they put these critics seem to discredit the movie the government and the rich do look at people beneath them as clowns but we are not clowns we were hard just like everybody else followed the system it doesn't work for everybody control lost the kilostate shoot us sometimes we just get fed up of leaving the same rules day today and still get tarnish so why not make sense and you've had enough
Cassandra Amore the movie isn’t as deep as you think and certainly doesn’t "reveal" anything about society, lmfao. Phoenix’s performance is impressive, but the script is incredibly shallow. I doesn’t really comment on society or really criticize anything it just repeats that "society is mad", and shows us that, but yeah, that’s hardly original. I also love that the horrible murder of three traders makes people in the movie side with the murderer for some reason and engage in an "anti-rich movement", like it’s just that simple. The movie isn’t dangerous though, how anybody could be influenced by such a shallow message is beyond me.
@@AdrianCelsiusTepes and what's so stupid is it's supposed to be shallow and cold. That's the point people make to even Batman on why he wants to save Gotham. Even the Gotham TV show does this. Batwoman might explore this too. Gotham is a dark shallow cold city but hides it's truths with family bonds and some spurts of happy memories. But mostly all familes are doomed to die in Gotham.
this comment is so fucken stupid. how do you know what ppl perceive? John wick is an action movie series, this isn’t an action movie. that’s 2 types of fan bases jackass.
John Wick mows down dozens of fools and very little empathy is held for any of them. Joker shoots Murray once and it felt like I just witnessed a real murder, I was shocked.
What I liked was that you still weren't sure at the end whether he was Wayne's son or not. After he discovers his mothers past and kills her there the scene with him holding an old photo of her and on the back is written "something, something, T.W" yeah i can't remember the exact words :) but it placed some doubt in my mind as to whether T.W did father a child with one of his maids and then just covered it up, the process of which broke Jokers mother mentally leaver her not sure what is real or not.
Bro u the m.v.p. was searching gor someone who actually noticed the final twist i feel they actually had gotten together for a minute and he was just terrified of the fact that they would find out that he had an affair with a maid and also when he saw arthur and how messed up he was and then compare that with how classy bruce is u see the connection and the irony i think ots a dope concept to make them half brothers seeing hes a main villain most of the time
@@BeanBoolin419only issue is that the joker is like 35 in this time and Bruce is like 6 maybe 7. That means Batman is fighting a 65 year old man at 37 lol
I adored this movie. Really wanna see it again. Is it me or did anyone else notice that Arthur lost his laughing problem when he become the Joker? We’ve seen him laugh uncontrollably in situations where he’s uncomfortable, but he doesn’t do that when after becoming the Joker. It’s like he was completely liberated.
Yep. I also liked how they did a whole scene of him prepping his entrance only to ditch what he practiced. It was an amazing moment that finished the transformation to the Joker in my eyes.
Alejandro Momota Not sure about that. The card he hands out says it can be caused by head trauma, the film later explains how he was found beaten, malnourished, and with bad head trauma. The laughing stopping is much more likely to show how he truly is free and, like The Joker we all know and love, isn’t what uncomfortable in high stress situations, instead he learns to love it.
@Thomas Michael I mean, I guess I am because I didn't have a problem with the song. Didn't know who made it, found out after the fact, and still don't think it matters.
I just finished it, and of course I come to Stuckman for his review. I have been purposely avoiding this video until I watched it. I didn’t see it in the theater. It’s amazing. I adored it. This is one I will watch over and over. I already want to watch it again. Joquin Phoenix is staggeringly good. So many things about it were just amazing.
I didn’t like his sense of humor when he was trying to be funny changing his voice to imitate characters it was unsettling he was trying so hard to be funny about something he was very serious about and we knew he was capable of killing at this point too we just saw him smash his old coworkers head into a wall
This movie made me feel physically ill while I was watching it. I felt absolutely awful as I was leaving the theatre. I truly hope it wins Best Picture.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 No ones supposed to watch a movie like this and feel joy. Some art is tragic. Paintings, music, all can make you feel sad or disturbed.
Real_Slim_Shady it was incredibly visceral watching the film. Just felt like I didn’t want to see Arthur get hurt or anything but then watched him get absolutely broken over the course of the movie. Which I think the film intended to do.
Wtf is wrong with a vigilante feeling good about his imposed justice even if it is slightly violent if the society deserves it then it's ok because the world is crazy anyway and people fail people.
@@mindfulclarity169 & why does Chris have a problem with an eccentric guy kissing the neighbour and her having sex with him? She doesn't know he is mentally unstable. She may have just been 'taken with the moment' with the neighbour she already had a small interaction with.
I was comfortable. I found a nice seat. All jokes aside it didn't really make me that uncomfortable. Did I feel bad for him sure but I didn't really feel that bad for him
That scene in the subway, when he commits his first murder, the visuals as theyre beating him up and we get close ups of his face while the lights go on and off and on and off. Its like were watching his internal struggle in that moment as hes about to snap. Absolutely brilliant.
Sonicsubzz i see it more as his ironic anthem. He’s fresh off a murder and he’s feels reborn and free and is grooving to one of the biggest songs of the 80s. It’s a twisted mans twisted freedom ya know?
I usually put that face whenever my boss starts yelling at me for shit that wasn’t in my control but can’t say anything because I got bills to pay. Don’t act like I’m crazy most of you do the same thing probably. 😊😂
@@moonakieater2308 I'm torn on it tbh, maybe it's better to have the music so we can hear what he's dancing to in his head, or maybe it would be better to have it silent giving us an outside perspective that is creppy and unsettling in a sense
I saw the film 30 hours ago and haven’t really stopped thinking about it since. I found I quite a tough watch, but the character development is fascinating. I really need to see it again, enjoyed it very much. Also I love the suit. PS this is the first video I’ve seen on this channel (technically the second, I watched the first thirty seconds of this video, watched the spoiler free video then came back) and I’m sure I’ll be back. Great stuff.
@@dopechicken7422 He didnt like the film because it wasnt a "Super explody action hero good guy fun time" kinda movie...he probably thinks Godzilla king of monsters was the best film of the last 10 years lol
Yes. It goes to show you that there's a lot of troubled people out there who get pushed over the edge because people are indifferent to their problems. This movie makes me want to be a better person, because maybe if we all try to be just a little better to each other, there would be less problems in the world.
@@Garrus1995 I'm glad I'm not the only who took away that message. Critics have been focusing on the bad this movie could possibly inspire...but what about the good?
Oh my god. I can’t believe I’m not the only person who thought that was CLEARLY the message. You guys rule. I think a lot of people who haven’t felt a real struggle with poverty, or isolation, etc, just can’t relate, see it as “overacting.” I’ve seen it a few times, and there were a few kids in one showing laughing at Arthur in the beginning, one kid actually said “what a freak” when he was having the laughing fit on the bus. I’m in my late thirties, this one is really special. On so many levels.
And that's why the media hates it and comes with the "this will incentivize violence" Bullshit Narrative, on top of getting a Lot of views of course by doing that of course.
Lol! For real though... I know the movie has a very serious tone but I swear I was the only one in the audience who went "Daaamn!" when she said that. That was an epic burn, really
This line is why it wasn’t surprising when her files cited narcissistic personality disorder. It’s a common thing for someone like that, like a parent or partner, to say something just for the sake of tearing someone else down. They do this to seek your approval. That line took her from looking sweet and a little dopey to having this dark side. It’s a clever damn film in regards to mental health.
I actually really like that interpretation. That was the exact moment when he was going to kill himself, but at the last second, he decided instead of removing himself because he hates the world, he removes what he hates about the world, and comes out on the other side as a changed man. Joker.
I guess that's the thing about movies. The more you watch, the more plotlines you recognize, the harsher you are on future movies. I've never seen the other two movies you mentioned. So to me, Joker's plotline was completely new and fresh.
@@MrSidney9 which makes saying earlier that it made no sense that someone stole the sign that much worse, he has no problem believing Arthur would do something that didn't make sense, but he gives everyone else the benefit of the doubt.
Having worked with many kids from dysfunctional backgrounds, I can confidently state, watching a movie, or playing a video game never equates to a murder spree. It is the thousand other incidents that came before; from the genetics of nature, to the hands nurture, piling on each other to cause the final mental Snap. Blaming movies, or games, is a smoke screen. cheap political points or click bait.
sam smith Has any movie ever actually changed society? Do you remember the movie Wall Street (1987, starring Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas)? That had a lot to say about ethics and morality, the values we place on things as a society, abuses of power fuelled by money, and what it means to be a productive member of society. Did people learn anything from it? If the financial crises that came twenty years later are any guide, the ones who needed the lessons weren't listening. Bottom line is Joker May raise a little bit of awareness but it will not go anywhere, Society won’t be changed at all, Chill out Chris Stuckmann. Also society likes a movie that is criticizing Society.
There was a bit towards the end - I think when he was dancing down the steps - when I could see Nicholson, Ledger and Pheonix's Joker all in one. It was awesome.
My thought was that climbing the staircase represented his struggle to climb out of his mental illness. Each time we see him climb the stairs it seems to be getting harder and harder for him to do so, especially after his therapy and medication are cut off. Eventually he just gives in and gleefully takes the descent into madness by dancing down the stairs.
The saddest moments for me was when arthur interacts with robert de Niro's character. Like this guy's life suck as bad as it does but at least he can go home and get his mind off of stuff by watching tv. But then he finds out that his idol does not take him seriously and only invites him on the show to be mocked for everyone else's amusement. Also the fact that guy's tv show was something that he and his mom enjoyed together which is another thing that was taken away from him
It reminded me of when David Letterman would invite Harvey Pekar to his show just to make fun of him and Harvey called him out on it. The scene was so honest and confronting, brilliant film making!
Creepy Closet I know I almost cried a couple times. Of course you shouldn’t kill people for speech, but I’m SO happy he shot all those people. Those guys beating him up deserved to die. If someone attacks you and you kill some of them I think it should be legal to shoot someone running away. Better world after they’re gone. Rapist and murderers don’t deserve life...
I think I’d prefer if the last act wasn’t a hallucination but the last act was drawing on the dark knight returns comic and in the comic right before the tv show segment, joker is in Arkham asylum.
I love you Chris, but the early lives of Bruce and Arthur were no where near equivalent.The only tragic thing that happened to Bruce was that his parents were killed in front of his eyes. That is of course devastating, but Arthur’s whole life was fucked up in every single aspect from the get-go, while Bruce grew up in a wealthy family. Just wanted to point that out
I thought that the joke was that Arthur Fleck couldn't get treatment. Nobody cared about Arthur, but Joker gets treatment, whether he wants it or not. The therapist even looked like the same person (maybe a little more grey hair)
1mag1nat1vename yeah, that’s a good point. no one cared to help him at the beginning when he wanted to kill himself, but as soon as he started killing members of society he was immediately taken into consideration.
@@1mag1nat1vename good eye. it's like that is the joke she wouldn't get. that no one gets. its like when insurance doesn't pay for cancer testing unless it's positive.
Because it's a freakin comic book movie with aliens. Joker talks about social issues that are part of everyday life. It's a movie that not only takes it up for the poor but everyone who's been looked down upon in any way and considered less valuable by our social standards. That's why this movie is dangerous. Because we all have these moments in life where we think violence is our only hope to make a change. And we should applaud these moments, not for the sake of violence, but for the sake of their honesty. When someone feels violence is the only answer left, we want to defend our truth. We want to defend our right. And those moments are the moments of holy fire that should guide us towards civilized change in society. Luckily most of us know violence isn't the answer so hopefully this movie inspires, like Chris said, reflection upon where we are part of The Joker and how we are part of its counterweight, how are we complicit as a society in creating Jokers? For America, as an example, I immediately think of all the high school shootings. For Europe, I think of terrorism just the same. What drives these people to become so amazingly violent? What can we do as a society to not let their lives and that of their victims to be forgotten in vain. How can we prevent other Jokers from popping up instead of just making sure that when another one drives by we're expecting and ready to pop his head off. This movie doesn't just open a wound, it pleasantly fingers it. Revolution is happening all around the globe in all kinds of manners, of course they don't want you to get inspired by a movie and do the same.
@@DarkAngelEU The thing is people tend to take movies way too seriously. Obviously, because your life is shit doesn't mean you should go around killing people and become a supervillain. (Metaphorically) be like Batman and try to do good after the tragedy. But in my opinion I don't see Joaquin Phoenix's Joker as a villain but as an antihero who stands up for the oppressed in society but in an evil way and to turn against a city that is so diverse where even the most 'good' guy is an ass who puts down the people he says he wants to help and that is Thomas Wayne.
Using That's Life throughout this movie and the final scene has haunted me. I always loved that song largely because it hit me in the times I was feeling prideful and good, when also being perfect when I am angry or whatnot. That song always had an eerie, sad feeling. What a perfect song for him. My god.
Beverly Huttinger I wouldn’t go that far... Heath and Joaquin would probably end up as 1a and 1b top Joker performances of all time. Joaquin definitely brought his A-game in this movie though.
The shot at the end when hes on the cop car and he uses the blood from his mouth to form the smile is hands down... THE MOST ICONIC SHOT OF THE JOKER EVER
I loved this movie so much. I watched it at my friends house and I had to tell him to stop when Joker is I’m the bathroom after the subway scene. The music and him dancing is insane and I had to take a breather. This is such a topic for mental health and it did amazing
Weird Wombat Well pretty much everyone who’s giving this film low reviews is being unreasonable as all they are really saying is that it’s bad because it’s too violent and has too many white people in it. I haven’t seen a single review so far that gives it a low score with any justifiable reasoning other than it’s too violent and will cause white people to suddenly go out and murder everyone or some dumb shite like that.
Your Dad how about the argument that the film doesn’t have as big of a deep message as it aims to? Or that it borrows too much from other films making it predictable? These are arguments against it that I’ve heard. I still love the movie but it’s far from perfect, Joaquin Phoenix definitely saved some of the weaker points.
@@W3irdWombat I agree that the film wasn't amazing, and understand the low review scores, but I think you're ignoring something really important; The film is connecting with people on a meaningful level. People can see themselves in Arthur Fleck, because he represents or at least speaks to the small percentage of the population that feels disconnected from and abandoned by society at large. It isn't the first film to do it, but most films that speak to the weirdos of society do so in a pandering and condescending manner, in which the weirdo is seen as cute, endearing and simply misunderstood! For someone who genuinely can't connect with people, this can be eye-rolling at best and frustrating at worst. Joker doesn't do this, instead it portrays the feelings of resentment, anger and hopelessness that being a weirdo more commonly makes you feel. It's about a character who's shunned by society, made a spectacle of and treated as less than human, and responds with great vengeance. He is a monster, created by society, and the sick part is, he's only taken notice of and accepted, when he becomes a monster. Arthurs speech on the talk show comes across as cheesy or self pitying, only if you can't relate to his pain, and most of the film critics reviewing this film have never and may never feel like Arthur Fleck. Infact most people will go through their lives never experiencing what it's like to feel outside society, but for those who do, will relate to this film. And for me, that makes this at the very least an important film.
@@W3irdWombat this movie is pretty vague about its message. You can't be sure whether its all going on in Arthur's mind and which events really took place. But clearly its all from the perspective of a psychopath with pseudobulbar affect, and you can't find your 'substance' or 'deep message' in it because you're expecting Buddha's teachings from a mentally ill patient.
The critics all thought the last Jedi was a tour de force while pretty much everyone else (the public aka the people that matter) either hated it or thought it was mediocre at best. I wouldn’t pay attention to that nonsense. They have an agenda and Joker inconveniences that.
Exactly.. there were so many society parallels.. even in my theatre after randall gets killed and the little guys all scared n couldn't open the door bcuz its safety was on. Ppl laughed bcuz he couldnt reach bcuz of his height and I was thinking "really? U idiots are missing the point of what this movie is trying to show the wrong side of society and u ppl are just that"
This movie has made it multiple choice owing to the dilemma of whether sth was real or imagined by Arthur entirely. The unreliable narrator in the form of Joker, the origin is still multiple choice (options are more close now though, even harder to pinpoint exact answer)
When his mother says
“I never heard him cry” “He’s always been a happy boy”
*chills*
yeah, I almost cried. probably never felt such away in a theater before
Lilla Sked it was a great scene in a great movie
That was one of the best lines. It made you imagine how much pain and sadness Arthur has felt throughout his entire life, and all of it went by unnoticed by the one person that had to take care of him. Hell, went by unnoticed by EVERYONE.
Yeah he was fkn crying that whole time
@Long Nguyen He has a neurological disorder where he has excessive laughter when he feels emotional. So Arthur's only way of expressing emotion is by laughter so when he is sad and wants to cry, it is laughter that comes out. So all those times he was laughing as a boy, he was actually crying.
“I kinda like that I’ve never been quoted” -Chris Stuckmann, 2019
Wow this made me laugh harder than it should have😂
I was literally about to type this lol.
*Snapping Sound Instensifies*
Beat me to it!
you sly dog
"I never heard him cry, he was always such a happy little boy"
Those words crushed my soul when he read the file on his mother.
the movie was like a new-age greek tragedy.
Same my brother had tears I can’t believe that movie was so dark but I love it
I cried 😭 broke 💔 my heart
As someone who dealt with a lot of childhood neglect that scene absolutely CRUSHED me
@Caleb Kent I know what you mean. Unless your hyper focused during the movie and you can ignore those assholes talking at the movies you might miss something. I'm buying a 4K copy of this day 1.
The scene with the short man was the most intense part of the movie. A locked door has never been more fucked up and anxiety inducing
*Sees Uncut gems
So sad it’s politically incorrect to say dwarf or midget 😂
@@andrewdukes3517 I laughed a little too, there was a lot of unintended dark humor in it that I loved
Am I the only one who expected Arthur to free him, after making him feel bad after involuntarily laughing at the joke about him being short
You meant midget?
“I’ve never been quoted”
-Chris Stuckman 2019
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hahaha
We need to put this on the Joker BluRay
Me: hahaha
John Fritz: what is it?
Me: i just remembered a joke
John Fritz: wanna share it?
Me: you wouldn’t get it (mic drop )
Arthur fleck and Bruce Wayne May have different birthdays. But the Joker and Batman were born on the same day.
deep🎯🎯
What month
i literally said the same thing
What
Both in the movie and in the comics.
As Joaquin Phoenix said in an interview, the media is more dangerous than the movie itself. The act of outrage inspires people to be outrageous.
What interview was that? I'd love to watch it
@@jrrthompson1996 it's in an interview he did with Peter Travers
I’ve always said listening to celebrities is stupid and I still think that, listening to artists on the other hand...
“Go to the judge and get some fudge” - Judy Garland
Noticed that too. I'm guessing this is a Gotham from late 70's , early 80's era. So in general smoking was much more prominent and accepted then, of course in Gotham's universe anything goes. it supposed to be urban, dark, and dirty. the smoking fits right in and Phoenix did an outstanding job in making it look cool and blend in well as a part of what the joker does.
+DirtyDinner24
*LOL*
Seriously I wanted to light one up in the theater.
Just watched the movie. I am a smoker and spent the whole movie craving because of it
makes it obvious smokers just want to look cool xD
but nobodys watching lol and you smell like ass
All this “bad press” yet it smashed the box office. Now that’s a good joke
Yeah that's how contraversy works. All publicity is good publicity.
kinda sad because it is truly a bad film, and not that there's really any good ones out there right now, but this one definitely doesn't deserve that kinda reception.
it feels like it was made by a 10 year old attempting to be deep or edgy
@@scs44444 lol
Press worked in selling it ;)
SJWs did more to help sell tickets than the trailers ever could.
I found that him saying “you wouldn’t get it” was more him accepting his differences from the rest of society and no longer needing acceptance for his mental state rather than thinking of Bruce Wayne’s parents dying
I think so too.. he gave up his dream of being a stand up comedy and making people laugh at that moment
That’s what I love about this movie. It can be interpreted in so many different ways
This is just how I saw it but I think it goes back to his old therapist when he said she didn’t listen. And how “she doesn’t get it”
I thought it was years later, when Batman was already a thing, he probably put him in Arkham in the first place. Joker probably realized then that he made Bruce into Batman himself.
Same here.
"I was wondering if you could ask the doctor to increase my medication."
"Arthur, you're on seven different medications. Surely they must be doing something!"
"I just don't want to feel so bad anymore."
As someone with depression, this exchange almost made me cry. Please treat each other with kindness, folks. You never know how much someone could be suffering inside.
Same here.
@I am the one who controls the sun Agreed. The problem is when someone is completely healthy but is INSANELY sensitive.
All the controversy surrounding this movie tells me that mainstream media hates a relatable character... Especially if that character has violent tendencies.
💯💯
And you never know what someone is capable of if we, as a society, alienate them.
"This film really makes you feel like the Joker"
-IGN Man
9/10 has a little something for everyone- IGN MAN
Hahaha
They actually gave it 100
0/10 this movie makes you question your morals and that is not good
Movies shouldnt dare to be different. -10/10
“Nope, you are nitpicking and biased. I win, bye bye”
- Rotten Tomatoes “critics”
"I've never been quoted."
- Chris Stuckman 2019
beat me to it
@@dudemaister96 Ha
smooth
Bravo.
~_~
I thought about posting this and then thought to myself somebody probably already did.
*Young Bruce Wayne exists*
That Alleyway: Here we go again
Lmao
The real hero of Joker is the midget.
- He is made fun of his whole life.
- He probably gets jumped too.
- He has the same deadbeat job as Arthur
- He is abused at his job
- He has no family visible supporting him.
- He has no girlfriend that we know of
- His only friends are people who are sociopathic and abusive
- He’s probably never fulfilled his dreams
- He is treated like a freak
Dude never becomes evil.
Kudos to you little guy.
I was glad he let him go
I am The Batman hey but there is one thing, albeit small. At least he wasn’t fired/still has a job.
That's because the joker is a piece of shit.
I swear I thought he was going to die for a quick minute.
Sriharsha Yadali me too . I thought oh man that’s just cruel . The interesting thing is that if he had gotten killed it wouldn’t have been funny .
One big moment, when he does in fact find out he is adopted right there and then you realize that he no longer has an identity, he’s not a Flek or Wayne, he is no one and Joker is no one...amazing
Yes, agree 100%. thats the deeper shit no one is talking about, people sperg with "ooh its just like taxi driver!" without thinking about Phoenix's performance or the amazing directing or screenplay.
AFTER he reads the adoption papers, there’s a flashback scene where his mother is talking to the therapist and he’s just reciting to her the same things Thomas Wayne said, and when Arthur decides to finally dawn the joker he looks at a picture of his mother with the back saying “you look absolutely beautiful” singed by Thomas Wayne!! He crumples it up an throws it over his shoulder. Something he doesn’t notice but the audience sure does
I think thomas had her committed and made to look insane.
He's not a fleck or a Wayne. The only people who could tell him are now dead. So really he doesn't know his origin yet it's an origin tale.
I do believe thomas was really the father though.
J Alves when he crushes the picture of his mother at the end it says, you have a beautiful smile, from TW. or something very similar maybe just a different adjective. This implies that maybe Thomas really did have her committed to cover it up
Has anyone mentioned how his disorder laugh and his actual laugh are totally different? His disorder sounds like a regular laugh, but his true laugh is unsettling and twisted.
His disorder laugh is really unsettling too, it's full of pain. Fantastic acting
As the movie progresses, he laughs less often
Lean Mean Green Bean Machine Glad someone else noticed that too.
common viewer I felt that near the end of the movie his laugh was less of a disorder and more of him actually finding the things he was doing actually funny
no his disorder sounds like hes trying to hold it back. hes gagging during the disorder laugh. it doesnt sound normal.
6:14
That part was meant to show us how he longs for human contact. A bump in in the elevator with this woman and he starts imagining a relationship with her. Because she was one of the few people who didn’t treat him like trash he clings to her, hence him later in the movie showing up in her apartment telling her he had a bad day. Then obviously there we realise that his relationship with her was nothing more than a fantasy
"I'm waiting for the punchline"
"There is no punchline"
That was scary
BANG
You get what you fucking deserve
You get what you fucking deserve
@@bigmonkeong that scene was bone chilling. Goosebumps.
"I'm waiting for the punchline"
"there is no punchline"
He broke the punch-in/out machine, now there's no punchline.
The punchline is the police are here, your son's been in an accident
"it's not a joke"
Knock Knock
*bam*
You know a movie is good when Robert de Niro agrees to get his head blown off.
@Relentless Defeatist What's worse then getting your head blown off?
Have you seen cape fear but I enjoyed joker a lot
Mzk Punk his head was still there lol
@Geralt of Trivia thanks Geralt
De Niro agreed to be in Fuckers 3 - he'll agree to anything.
I loved the way they picked him out of the police car so gently and with such reverence, incredible movie....
Man! I really liked this movie, but at the same time, it was a little disturbing too, not because of the violence, but because of the themes explored.
Will Smiff you suck This movie was fucking beautiful
@Will Smiff Get some more help.
@@ajesco What did Will Smiff say
This isn't the way to go about it mate :p
"The worst things about having a mental Illness is that people expect u to behave as if u dont have one"
My favorite quote from the movie from jokers notebook
It difficult for people to deal with complicated issues and often have negative stigmas toward people that have mental issue and some people use it as excuse so that doesn't help
Thanks for replying to my comment guys I love talking to joker/batman fans lol u all have interesting inputs, thank u for saying I'm gorgeous
@Oxy Moron It definitely wasn't boring. This isn't your regular cliché action movie. It's a slow movie that shows every event that caused the Joker. It was a very interesting watch.
I do feel like it was extremely interesting some people may find it boring because the movie moves slow to show u all the details but I really enjoyed it excited to have it in my movie collection
Why did I not see that thing? I Only saw "I hope my death makes more cents than my life" , and there's no scene where he's writing jokes ( the scene in the first trailer).
Joker’s biggest enemy in this movie....
Sliding glass doors....
"It's exit only"
Batman’s newest gadget, windex😎
@@40krocks21 you mean batdex
I honestly believe Phoenix accidentally walked into that glass door and was stunned by it
@@tommydude969 I swear I heard him say in an interview that that is absolutely what happened.
My grandmother always told me “Be nice to people. You never know what they are going through. People snap.”
e.g Thanos's fingers
+Devon Elizabeth
Agreed.
I was told the same thing growing up, turns out being nice to every body saved me from a possible school shooting. I was the only boy in my math class that wasn't found on the hit list.
I tell my son that constantly. I know people love to bully the weak and I told him dont pile on ever
The saddest part for me was the fact that Arthur was actively trying to get help. He was going to therapy and taking medications. He tried to tell his therapist that the medications weren't working and he was showing her that the type of therapy he was receiving (being locked up and simply talking to someone weekly) wasn't helping. Many times, we are shown that a character just gives up or a character doesn't believe that they are wrong or that they need help, but it isn't often we are shown one that tries to get better only to fail. "Keep trying and you'll succeed." No, sometimes, people try their best over and over, and they still fail and are ruined by the experience.
“Social media awards extremes.” -Chris Stuckmann, 2019
*rewards*
The overall message of this movie is: Be nice to everyone. Treat everyone like how you want to be treated.
But there's also a general social commentary pointing out a cruel, but sadly very true reality which is that the elites do really live in their bubble and are completely unaware of the hellhole distress and violence that the lower classes go through every single day of their lives. Well, not unaware per se (they do read news and do see people around them when they are in town), but I mean unaware of what it actually is like and how it feels like to live in those conditions.
...or they may just stab you in the fucking eye
That neighbor of his was nice and never did anything to him.... Soooooo?
If only the world was that fair. Treating others the way you wanna be treated doesn't work. It's always giving love for abuse.
Woag It totally does. If you want to be loved, you gotta try to express your love for someone else. But also you don’t want to be loved by someone you don’t like, so you mustn’t push your love if the other person doesn’t want it. Same goes with any kind of relations. And if you don’t want to be abused, you just set a distance in relationships that is comfortable for you and defend yourself if needed, both physically and psychologically.
If someone behaves like a total dick, you treat him like you would treat yourself and how you would like to be treated by others if you were behaving the same way.
The “blood smile” standing on top of the cop car was incredible. Is it just me, or did that somewhat feel like a homage to Ledger, with the blood resembling the scars?
cobo1316 Yes, it was.
he was originally going to cut his mouth with glass, but they didn’t want it to be too much like heath, but the interesting thing is in the original script when he’s in arkham at the end, he is talking to the woman and has the cuts stitched up, indicating the movie was real and not a “joke”
TwistedOwl I had no idea about that. I do love the blood smile and how beautifully dramatic he did it to himself. Not sure how cleanly it would have gone in the scene with the glass, but I am not opposed to it, especially if that would have revealed if it all truly happened or not.
no, it isn’t... it’s more like him naturally smiling. at the beginning of the film he had to force a smile... on top of that car he can smile freely...
Juan Zep I agree with that also.
This movie is a masterpiece, Joaquin Phoenix is amazing in the movie he deserves an Oscar! This performance honestly rivals Heath Ledgers it's that great, this movie is gonna go down as a classic, I really hope they'll make a sequel and really wish this was apart of the dceu it's easily the best DC movie since the Dark Knight, 10/10
Yeah, screaming he earns an oscar.
And when he does, screaming: 'I told you so!'
@@shonuff8880 called it, i think everyone knew hed win it, and he deserves it
It's not amazing
“Ohh I forgot to punch out”
Juan Chavez me when I quit my next job
That was classic joker lol loved it
Don't F̶o̶r̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ SMILE
That was hilarious 😂
One of the funniest parts
On a rather pessimistic, but realistic note: The media knows exactly what they're doing by highlighting extreme reviews and comments. Having headlines like "Movie theaters to beef up security in case of mass shootings" related to this movie puts that idea into the world. Just like how they make killers into celebrities. It's extremely dangerous, and they're always playing innocent. Disgusting.
So true
I quite enjoy a bit of the old ultraviolence myself brother
The media is foaming at the mouth thinking of the clicks and views that a shooting or mass murderer would give them. Especially if they got to say "told you so" They're hoping all that person needs is a little push, and the media is dying to give it to them.
Agreed. And.... it only works because the masses eat it up. It’s a vicious circle.
Not really. So Stuckmann just countered the idea that movies influence people to do stuff. And you just said the media influences people to do stuff. You can't have it both ways.Both mediums might suggest something, but it's still a person who acts upon it that is the real one at fault.
If this movie is considered "dangerous", then GTA is a living weapon.
And, that would make movie critics prophets.
Tunan Guo Mortal Kombat is as well.
You have to wonder if some of these critics work with the government because this movie kinda opens our eyes we deal with a lot of rich people who get away with a lot of s*** and they do look down on us as well as the government looks down on us so are the government Brighton that we're going to wake up and see them for what they are the rich and the government is that's why they put these critics seem to discredit the movie the government and the rich do look at people beneath them as clowns but we are not clowns we were hard just like everybody else followed the system it doesn't work for everybody control lost the kilostate shoot us sometimes we just get fed up of leaving the same rules day today and still get tarnish so why not make sense and you've had enough
Cassandra Amore the movie isn’t as deep as you think and certainly doesn’t "reveal" anything about society, lmfao.
Phoenix’s performance is impressive, but the script is incredibly shallow. I doesn’t really comment on society or really criticize anything it just repeats that "society is mad", and shows us that, but yeah, that’s hardly original.
I also love that the horrible murder of three traders makes people in the movie side with the murderer for some reason and engage in an "anti-rich movement", like it’s just that simple.
The movie isn’t dangerous though, how anybody could be influenced by such a shallow message is beyond me.
@@AdrianCelsiusTepes and what's so stupid is it's supposed to be shallow and cold. That's the point people make to even Batman on why he wants to save Gotham. Even the Gotham TV show does this. Batwoman might explore this too.
Gotham is a dark shallow cold city but hides it's truths with family bonds and some spurts of happy memories. But mostly all familes are doomed to die in Gotham.
Todd Philips was in the movie.
He was one of the guys wearing a mask.
The same people who say the violence is too much in this movie are the same people who praise The John Wick Series for its “action packed” scenes.
Juanmanuel Vizcarra exactly
It's the same people who get mad at Trump for blaming video games for mass shootings. They're all hypocrites.
this comment is so fucken stupid. how do you know what ppl perceive? John wick is an action movie series, this isn’t an action movie. that’s 2 types of fan bases jackass.
Juanmanuel Vizcarra thank you.
even the police couldnt do a thing to john wick , which means the society where he's live in is worst than gotham city lol
At the end when he smears his face into a smile gave me chills all over my body, god what a great job Joaquin Phoenix did
The dance scenes on the stairs and car was the most Joker thing I've seen in any cinematic portrayal of him.
@@TheNewGen08 they kinda ruined the stair dance with the soundtrack
ShakenMike I agree to an extent, still loved it, but definitely could’ve had better music during that scene
But first he felt that he had blood in his mouth from the crash, and in a moment of clarity he resumes being the demented monster he succumbed to
ShakenMike maybe it was done to contrast how unique he is from society
It's actually written as
"I hope my death makes more CENTS than my life" which is actually kind of funny
very clever by the writers
@@fluteisland I've heard it's actually from a diary of a real person named Arthur as well.
Finally, someone mentioned this! 😅
Why is it funny,? Its disturbingly sad
Nin10do generation Well.....not him.
I would really like to see a therapists or psychiatrists review on this movie
Hi army?
p.k Baby hi!
@@corne1iatf Vc fala português do brasil?
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John Wick mows down dozens of fools and very little empathy is held for any of them.
Joker shoots Murray once and it felt like I just witnessed a real murder, I was shocked.
All about framing and context. In John wick apparently a baby in a stroller could potentially be a hitman, in joker these are regular people.
Right the way he just laid back on the chair dead, shit was chilling
@@soraceant well that's subjective people shouldn't be easily tricked then just because it looks cooler. That's a lame excuse.
@@NCMonefaith what do you mean?
THIS
“Stop laughing, freak. Look at what you’ve done.”
“I know. Isn’t it beautiful?”
Shubh Khan when white room by cream started playing in that scene I felt fucking the vibe ong💯🔥
I must admit, the twist with his "girlfriend" got me
I was like chemistry is too weak but when twist happened I was like holy shit
Yeah haha. Even when shit was bad for him, I thought "Hey at least he has a girlfriend who is into him"
Yeah made more sense this way
Tyler Durden moment
Swapnil Singh exactly what i thought aha
What I liked was that you still weren't sure at the end whether he was Wayne's son or not.
After he discovers his mothers past and kills her there the scene with him holding an old photo of her and on the back is written "something, something, T.W" yeah i can't remember the exact words :) but it placed some doubt in my mind as to whether T.W did father a child with one of his maids and then just covered it up, the process of which broke Jokers mother mentally leaver her not sure what is real or not.
That pic said "Love your smile. TW" on the back.
Bro u the m.v.p. was searching gor someone who actually noticed the final twist i feel they actually had gotten together for a minute and he was just terrified of the fact that they would find out that he had an affair with a maid and also when he saw arthur and how messed up he was and then compare that with how classy bruce is u see the connection and the irony i think ots a dope concept to make them half brothers seeing hes a main villain most of the time
I guess we know why batman won't kill the joker after everything he's done it's his brother lol
@@BeanBoolin419only issue is that the joker is like 35 in this time and Bruce is like 6 maybe 7. That means Batman is fighting a 65 year old man at 37 lol
"My mum just died I'm celebrating"
When you finally get the ps4 to yourself.
BAHAHAHAHAHA
that was so deadpan that it was actually funny
Best fricking line !!! Imo
"Its fuckin crazy int it"
I adored this movie. Really wanna see it again.
Is it me or did anyone else notice that Arthur lost his laughing problem when he become the Joker? We’ve seen him laugh uncontrollably in situations where he’s uncomfortable, but he doesn’t do that when after becoming the Joker. It’s like he was completely liberated.
Saw this exact comment on r/movies lmao
Yep. I also liked how they did a whole scene of him prepping his entrance only to ditch what he practiced. It was an amazing moment that finished the transformation to the Joker in my eyes.
Joseph Deluca I see you saw the Gamer Theorists Film Theory video.
Clementine Krishan He never really had the condition to begin with. He was just lied to so he grew up with it. Placebo effect I believe
Alejandro Momota Not sure about that. The card he hands out says it can be caused by head trauma, the film later explains how he was found beaten, malnourished, and with bad head trauma. The laughing stopping is much more likely to show how he truly is free and, like The Joker we all know and love, isn’t what uncomfortable in high stress situations, instead he learns to love it.
Critics:
“All I have are negative thoughts.”
You talking about how they uses that song by Gary Glitter? Yeah, tbh that didn't sit right with me either
@Thomas Michael dont be a "Mee too" snowflake.
Fucking hell I'm dying 😂😂😂😂😂
Thomas Michael is a perfect example as to why we don't feed trolls in the UA-cam comments
@Thomas Michael I mean, I guess I am because I didn't have a problem with the song. Didn't know who made it, found out after the fact, and still don't think it matters.
I just finished it, and of course I come to Stuckman for his review. I have been purposely avoiding this video until I watched it. I didn’t see it in the theater. It’s amazing. I adored it. This is one I will watch over and over. I already want to watch it again. Joquin Phoenix is staggeringly good. So many things about it were just amazing.
When you give me my oscar, can you introduce me as Joker?
on point!!
Why doesn’t this have more likes??!??
2 weeks and this hasn't gotten 1000 likes yet...
Duuuuuude
@@AryanSharma-gm4cv because it's like the millionth time it's been commented
"When you hand me my Oscar, can you introduce me as JOKER ?"
make this comment up
Underrated comment!
@@LaskaiTamas23 no it is not under rated comment literally all joker video have this comment which I support but it is not under rated
Rahul Talreja “Jerry, could you introduce me as, “The King of Comedy?”
Rahul Talreja he should go to the oscar ceremony with the clothes and makeup
"Good night and always remember that's lif-"
-Joker
That was so epic.
Epic and disturbing.
That was an epic gamer moment
One of the best if not the best moment in the movie
I love how they abruptly end that line short. This movie is just ever so shy of being a masterpiece
The moment you realize that the jokers had two bullets in his gun. One for Murray and one for himself... but choose to shoot Murray twice out of fun.
This is the first time since Ledger that the Joker scared me. I just saw the movie and it was amazing, I loved it.
They were both so amazing. What a time to be alive!
I saw this movie years ago... it was called Taxi Driver. Been there done that.
best movie of the year
Masterpiece, this movie was a master piece.
@Joe Chill no
When he finally got on the Murray show, I almost felt like crying. His performance was mesmerizing
Mega0003000 That scene was terrifying.
When he went on and started his knock knock joke my heart was beating out of my chest
Virtual Boy Same bro. That scene will stay in my head for a while.
I didn’t like his sense of humor when he was trying to be funny changing his voice to imitate characters it was unsettling he was trying so hard to be funny about something he was very serious about and we knew he was capable of killing at this point too we just saw him smash his old coworkers head into a wall
Virtual Boy it didn’t help that everyone was laughing at him in the wrong way
_"Someday someone will break you so badly that you'll become unbreakable."_
*~ The Joker*
Is there a joker video on UA-cam that doesn’t have one of your comments?
That's not a quote from the joker
Mr. Friendship How the hell do you people function in real life? I’m baffled.
Don’t tease him. He might break and become Joker!
_I wonder what will break first, your spirit or your BODY?_
This movie made me feel physically ill while I was watching it. I felt absolutely awful as I was leaving the theatre. I truly hope it wins Best Picture.
Dan Groll for making you feel awful?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 No ones supposed to watch a movie like this and feel joy. Some art is tragic. Paintings, music, all can make you feel sad or disturbed.
Sectric its a good movie but doesn’t mean it’s brutal to watch and not one to watch late Saturday nights...
Dan Groll midsommmarrr
Real_Slim_Shady it was incredibly visceral watching the film. Just felt like I didn’t want to see Arthur get hurt or anything but then watched him get absolutely broken over the course of the movie. Which I think the film intended to do.
Arthur Fleck on critics' reactions on Joker:
"Is it just me, or is it getting crazier out there?"
They don't get it...
Wtf is wrong with a vigilante feeling good about his imposed justice even if it is slightly violent if the society deserves it then it's ok because the world is crazy anyway and people fail people.
@@mindfulclarity169 & why does Chris have a problem with an eccentric guy kissing the neighbour and her having sex with him? She doesn't know he is mentally unstable. She may have just been 'taken with the moment' with the neighbour she already had a small interaction with.
@@nihilist4184 name checks out.
@@mindfulclarity169 I recommend you to read Attack On Titans manga. You'll know why when you caught up.
“So the makeup isn’t a political statement?”
“Oh no, I don’t believe in that... I don’t believe in anything”
I found that sad actually.
Lu HeDi I did too. He had to identity until that very moment and after the talk show he found his identity. The joker.
jbigboi13 loved that line. The slight smile on his face as he said it was great too hahah
Nihilism at its finest.
I believe what ever didnt kill you make you stranger
My absolute favorite thing is that Joker legitimately says “We live in a society”
@Bryan birdchest Callen Also blew Murray's mind.
i couldn't believe it, what a revealation
Seinfeld reference?
I still have no idea what that meme means.
Basically its a joke on people who try to be deep by saying stuff like “wE lIvE iN A sOcIeTy wHeRe ______”
“i’ve never been quoted”
- Chris Stuckmann
There ya go buddy ! Stay awesome :)
I don’t think I was comfortable at any point while watching that movie.
I was too comfortable
I was comfortable. I found a nice seat. All jokes aside it didn't really make me that uncomfortable. Did I feel bad for him sure but I didn't really feel that bad for him
Not even after the midget joke?
@@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929 )
I was comfortable
To all the critics who didn't like this movie : knock knock
Who’s there?
MofootballZe Football videos lmaooo
All the critics getting what they deserve
MofootballZe Football videos I’m waiting for the punchline
@@slim..reaper There's no punchline...
"The thing is MUR-RAY".
Classic Joker
So good, I can hear it
I love when he did that haha I couldn't stop smiling
That scene in the subway, when he commits his first murder, the visuals as theyre beating him up and we get close ups of his face while the lights go on and off and on and off. Its like were watching his internal struggle in that moment as hes about to snap. Absolutely brilliant.
The pre-release hysteria [for this film] I find horrificly stupid."
- Chris Stuckmann
This should be your first quote.
@oiuet souiu Yes, and whole histeria ironically prove that point.
The part where the boss is yelling at him and they close up on him smiling was the creepiest thing I've ever seen.
I thought the same and my friends couldn't remember that scene it was so unnerving!
Sonicsubzz i see it more as his ironic anthem. He’s fresh off a murder and he’s feels reborn and free and is grooving to one of the biggest songs of the 80s. It’s a twisted mans twisted freedom ya know?
S A that scene with most other actors would have been odd but Joaquin sold it incredibly
I usually put that face whenever my boss starts yelling at me for shit that wasn’t in my control but can’t say anything because I got bills to pay. Don’t act like I’m crazy most of you do the same thing probably. 😊😂
S A That opening scene was creepy as fuck too
My god that bathroom dance scene is a fucking masterpiece. So unsettling and yet so beautiful.
Wish they didn't play music in the background though, would have made it much more unsettling
@@Swockwickdus Joaquin said they played that same music on set so he can get into the dance. That's why it looked so in tune.
@@Swockwickdus that soundtrack was one of the best things about it.
@@moonakieater2308 I'm torn on it tbh, maybe it's better to have the music so we can hear what he's dancing to in his head, or maybe it would be better to have it silent giving us an outside perspective that is creppy and unsettling in a sense
@@Swockwickdus you're right, it would've been creepier to us with no music. But I think it's more beautiful from Arthur's perspective with it. Thanx
I saw the film 30 hours ago and haven’t really stopped thinking about it since. I found I quite a tough watch, but the character development is fascinating. I really need to see it again, enjoyed it very much. Also I love the suit.
PS this is the first video I’ve seen on this channel (technically the second, I watched the first thirty seconds of this video, watched the spoiler free video then came back) and I’m sure I’ll be back. Great stuff.
I can honestly say that Joker is one of the best movies I've seen in years.
You REALLY need to watch more movies, then
@@markgeneson9771 how do you know he didnt watch many movies? its his own opinion why cant you just accept that? lol
@@dopechicken7422 He didnt like the film because it wasnt a "Super explody action hero good guy fun time" kinda movie...he probably thinks Godzilla king of monsters was the best film of the last 10 years lol
snunja hockey CONGRATULATIONS 🎉 you have a different taste of movies than some one else. Want a cookie 🍪?
Mark Geneson you need to learn to appreciate phenomenal character development
This movie makes people think, and really question society's influence on creating killers. It accomplished it's goal. It was a masterpiece.
Yes. It goes to show you that there's a lot of troubled people out there who get pushed over the edge because people are indifferent to their problems. This movie makes me want to be a better person, because maybe if we all try to be just a little better to each other, there would be less problems in the world.
@@Garrus1995 I'm glad I'm not the only who took away that message. Critics have been focusing on the bad this movie could possibly inspire...but what about the good?
Oh my god. I can’t believe I’m not the only person who thought that was CLEARLY the message. You guys rule. I think a lot of people who haven’t felt a real struggle with poverty, or isolation, etc, just can’t relate, see it as “overacting.”
I’ve seen it a few times, and there were a few kids in one showing laughing at Arthur in the beginning, one kid actually said “what a freak” when he was having the laughing fit on the bus.
I’m in my late thirties, this one is really special. On so many levels.
And that's why the media hates it and comes with the "this will incentivize violence" Bullshit Narrative, on top of getting a Lot of views of course by doing that of course.
People who don’t like this movie didn’t get the joke.
Knock, knock
Critics who HATED Joker are the same critics who LOVED Captain Marvel... nuff said.
Mark Geuel Exactly lmfaoo
@@MarkGeuel they don't look for good movies they look at what could helo society in the real world, fuck sjws...
@@theuglycakegaming if you think that Joker is a hero then you don't get the joke...
One big difference between Batman and the Joker? Money.
And their philosophies.
And a rough upbringing vs a protected upbringing
It's not about the money
It's about sending a message
"Are you having any bruh moments?"
"All I have...are bruh moments"
bruh...
i used to think my life was a cringe compilation, now i realize it’s a try not to laugh challenge
Bruuuh!
This really does say a lot about our society
@@Gerarghini it never is THAT bad in real life
I think his mother has the greatest line in the movie, "don't you have to be funny to be a comedian?"
Lol! For real though... I know the movie has a very serious tone but I swear I was the only one in the audience who went "Daaamn!" when she said that. That was an epic burn, really
Also, I can imagine the pain that that line brought to Arthur, when he realizes his own mother doesn't believe in his skills.
This shows how his mother despises him and only uses him because she is sick. She doesn't love him.
This line is why it wasn’t surprising when her files cited narcissistic personality disorder. It’s a common thing for someone like that, like a parent or partner, to say something just for the sake of tearing someone else down. They do this to seek your approval. That line took her from looking sweet and a little dopey to having this dark side.
It’s a clever damn film in regards to mental health.
“My mother died I’m celebrating” is also one of the best lines.
When he kills his TV idol, he is also killing Arthur, then the Joker is born for Arthur never to come back.
I would argue Arthur died when he killed his mother
@@TheXelavid Don't you listen. I said this is who I always was.
I think it started once he kills those people on the subway and then the joker went into action once he kills his mother
I’m so glad I’m looking at these comment after I just watched the movie and not before😂
I actually really like that interpretation. That was the exact moment when he was going to kill himself, but at the last second, he decided instead of removing himself because he hates the world, he removes what he hates about the world, and comes out on the other side as a changed man. Joker.
I guess that's the thing about movies. The more you watch, the more plotlines you recognize, the harsher you are on future movies. I've never seen the other two movies you mentioned. So to me, Joker's plotline was completely new and fresh.
"Did you know I've never been quoted?" - Chris Stuckmann, 2019
Very original. You and 2,000 other people commented the exact same thing! Cool!
Paul Adams hajahahahah
“Why would I keep the sign?”
“ I don’t know, why does anyone do anything?”
The boss, however shittu he was, had a point with that line
@@MrSidney9 which makes saying earlier that it made no sense that someone stole the sign that much worse, he has no problem believing Arthur would do something that didn't make sense, but he gives everyone else the benefit of the doubt.
Whoah dude ! You can quote movies and pass them off as original comments? Nice !
@@someoneelse9680 But he literally put quotation marks to indicate he was not the person who originally said it
@@someoneelse9680 lmao you idiot
"It's been a rough few weeks since I.... killed those guys in the subway"
"There is no punchline"
"How about another joke"
“What do you get when you cross a mentally ill person with a society that abandons them and treats them like trash?”
@@TheOneWhoLaughs101 YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
@@Johndoe-pr6si *BANG*
I HATE THAT CENSORSHIP IS COMING BACK AGAIN.
"Hello, the 80's called. They want to give you RESTRICTIONS TO EXPRESSIONS"
Having worked with many kids from dysfunctional backgrounds, I can confidently state, watching a movie, or playing a video game never equates to a murder spree. It is the thousand other incidents that came before; from the genetics of nature, to the hands nurture, piling on each other to cause the final mental Snap.
Blaming movies, or games, is a smoke screen. cheap political points or click bait.
sam smith Has any movie ever actually changed society? Do you remember the movie Wall Street (1987, starring Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas)? That had a lot to say about ethics and morality, the values we place on things as a society, abuses of power fuelled by money, and what it means to be a productive member of society. Did people learn anything from it? If the financial crises that came twenty years later are any guide, the ones who needed the lessons weren't listening. Bottom line is Joker May raise a little bit of awareness but it will not go anywhere, Society won’t be changed at all, Chill out Chris Stuckmann. Also society likes a movie that is criticizing Society.
The Birth of A Nation ( 1915 ).
sam smith honestly some people just want to abolish the first amendment and use this as fake evidence
riiiiight…...and that means??? be nicer??
Easier to scapegoat than to process and live with the idea there could be blood on your hands.
" when you announce I've won the Oscar, can you introduce me as Joker?"
Stealing comments to get likes, seriously?
The Hound Stealing comments to also get likes seriously?
I for sure haven’t seen this exact same comment on 2,000 different videos already.
Unoriginal comment is unoriginal
@@aidan7646 What is this a college essay and everything has to be original? Welcome to UA-cam where certain funny comments spread around like memes.
"Oh, hi Arthur. You're a really good dancer."
"I know"
TexasTortuga peter parker
enderlul don’t you dare dis my boy Toby like that again
*you're
Sorry, had to.
Oh, hi Mark.
You should see Arthur dance to some Boards of Canada,Now that's a sight.
There was a bit towards the end - I think when he was dancing down the steps - when I could see Nicholson, Ledger and Pheonix's Joker all in one. It was awesome.
My thought was that climbing the staircase represented his struggle to climb out of his mental illness.
Each time we see him climb the stairs it seems to be getting harder and harder for him to do so, especially after his therapy and medication are cut off.
Eventually he just gives in and gleefully takes the descent into madness by dancing down the stairs.
The saddest moments for me was when arthur interacts with robert de Niro's character. Like this guy's life suck as bad as it does but at least he can go home and get his mind off of stuff by watching tv. But then he finds out that his idol does not take him seriously and only invites him on the show to be mocked for everyone else's amusement. Also the fact that guy's tv show was something that he and his mom enjoyed together which is another thing that was taken away from him
It reminded me of when David Letterman would invite Harvey Pekar to his show just to make fun of him and Harvey called him out on it. The scene was so honest and confronting, brilliant film making!
Basically the Jimmy Kimmel interview that just happened with Joaquin Phoenix
Icebrand Music that was staged dude lol his publicist said so. Phoenix has done similar years ago on Letterman.
Creepy Closet I know I almost cried a couple times. Of course you shouldn’t kill people for speech, but I’m SO happy he shot all those people. Those guys beating him up deserved to die. If someone attacks you and you kill some of them I think it should be legal to shoot someone running away. Better world after they’re gone. Rapist and murderers don’t deserve life...
@@jessejive117 Jesus christ dude. Its only self defense when youre suffering or in danger.
Batman’s parents are dead, that’s a universal constant, therefore the ending is absolutely real.
I think the ending is real but everything before then I think is mostly fake
I think the ending might be real but everything else that happens is all in his head remember joker said his back story is multiple choice
@@MatthiasTodryk I think they are all real. The movie makes it clear when he's imagining things.
I think I’d prefer if the last act wasn’t a hallucination but the last act was drawing on the dark knight returns comic and in the comic right before the tv show segment, joker is in Arkham asylum.
Plot twist: batman is Joker's illusion 'cause there is no one to stop his insanity, so he has some fun fighting a bat guy in his mind. 😂
"I'm just seeing a lot of people quote things."
-me
"I'm just laughing at this meta joke" - me
"Im just seeing a person quote about ppl quote things".
-me
"-me"
-everyone in the comment thread
"Me"
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Masterpiece Jeremy Chris clearly doesn’t read his own comments if he thinks he’s never been quoted
I love you Chris, but the early lives of Bruce and Arthur were no where near equivalent.The only tragic thing that happened to Bruce was that his parents were killed in front of his eyes. That is of course devastating, but Arthur’s whole life was fucked up in every single aspect from the get-go, while Bruce grew up in a wealthy family.
Just wanted to point that out
I feel the “joke” at the end was the fact that his acts left Bruce orphaned after Thomas Wayne had previously taunted him about his adoption..
I thought that the joke was that Arthur Fleck couldn't get treatment. Nobody cared about Arthur, but Joker gets treatment, whether he wants it or not. The therapist even looked like the same person (maybe a little more grey hair)
1mag1nat1vename yeah, that’s a good point. no one cared to help him at the beginning when he wanted to kill himself, but as soon as he started killing members of society he was immediately taken into consideration.
I thought the joke was a bit of both. Him getting treatment after the fact, and Bruce now being an orphan after Thomas Wayne taunted Arthur.
@@1mag1nat1vename good eye. it's like that is the joke she wouldn't get. that no one gets. its like when insurance doesn't pay for cancer testing unless it's positive.
I thought the joke was that joker had gray hair so it was in the future and he knows he's responsible for the creation of batman
Thanos killed half the people in the universe and we never heard a peep about the movie being too violent.
I think that’s jsut cuz they didn’t show like guys exploding and it was jsut ppl Turing to dust
squaressquares exactly if people had their skins turned inside out I think we'd hear a little more peep
Because it's a freakin comic book movie with aliens. Joker talks about social issues that are part of everyday life. It's a movie that not only takes it up for the poor but everyone who's been looked down upon in any way and considered less valuable by our social standards. That's why this movie is dangerous. Because we all have these moments in life where we think violence is our only hope to make a change. And we should applaud these moments, not for the sake of violence, but for the sake of their honesty. When someone feels violence is the only answer left, we want to defend our truth. We want to defend our right. And those moments are the moments of holy fire that should guide us towards civilized change in society.
Luckily most of us know violence isn't the answer so hopefully this movie inspires, like Chris said, reflection upon where we are part of The Joker and how we are part of its counterweight, how are we complicit as a society in creating Jokers? For America, as an example, I immediately think of all the high school shootings. For Europe, I think of terrorism just the same. What drives these people to become so amazingly violent? What can we do as a society to not let their lives and that of their victims to be forgotten in vain. How can we prevent other Jokers from popping up instead of just making sure that when another one drives by we're expecting and ready to pop his head off.
This movie doesn't just open a wound, it pleasantly fingers it. Revolution is happening all around the globe in all kinds of manners, of course they don't want you to get inspired by a movie and do the same.
Mckee Ward IV I’m going to say it, avengers endgame is one of the most overrated movie I’ve seen, joker was a flat out masterpiece
@@DarkAngelEU The thing is people tend to take movies way too seriously. Obviously, because your life is shit doesn't mean you should go around killing people and become a supervillain. (Metaphorically) be like Batman and try to do good after the tragedy. But in my opinion I don't see Joaquin Phoenix's Joker as a villain but as an antihero who stands up for the oppressed in society but in an evil way and to turn against a city that is so diverse where even the most 'good' guy is an ass who puts down the people he says he wants to help and that is Thomas Wayne.
“Dangerous film?”
Now that.., is a joke without a punchline
Its like these people want joker to act like Mary Poppins
There was only six people killed by Joker himself have these people ever seen a horror movie before?
@@juanmora9190 has these people seen John wick before...now that movie is way more violent and has more fun shooting
@@jarrodedson5441 People are dumb these days. They really stick their nose where they shouldn't.
@@juanmora9190 agreed also I have a question for you
Using That's Life throughout this movie and the final scene has haunted me. I always loved that song largely because it hit me in the times I was feeling prideful and good, when also being perfect when I am angry or whatnot. That song always had an eerie, sad feeling. What a perfect song for him. My god.
Theme of joker: be a decent human being
Agreed
@Jay Ess Not everyone, now let me tell you this, not everyone is awful
@Ricky MyBoy Did you have to look that up?
Or, and hear me out, there no excuse to be a psycho murderer. Regardless of getting bullied 🤷🏽♂️
@@Cptking235 That's not what the movie was trying to say at all. You either missed the point entirely or you're trolling.
Joaquin Phoenix's performance is unbelievable. One of the best I've ever seen.
Beverly Huttinger The two characters are not comparable
Beverly Huttinger I wouldn’t go that far... Heath and Joaquin would probably end up as 1a and 1b top Joker performances of all time. Joaquin definitely brought his A-game in this movie though.
Heath ledgers joker is a concept, while phoenix's joker is a character.
Jes Web agreed
The shot at the end when hes on the cop car and he uses the blood from his mouth to form the smile is hands down... THE MOST ICONIC SHOT OF THE JOKER EVER
Absolutely iconic.
I loved this movie so much. I watched it at my friends house and I had to tell him to stop when Joker is I’m the bathroom after the subway scene. The music and him dancing is insane and I had to take a breather. This is such a topic for mental health and it did amazing
The critics felt hurt because the film calls out hypocrites.
Weird Wombat Well pretty much everyone who’s giving this film low reviews is being unreasonable as all they are really saying is that it’s bad because it’s too violent and has too many white people in it. I haven’t seen a single review so far that gives it a low score with any justifiable reasoning other than it’s too violent and will cause white people to suddenly go out and murder everyone or some dumb shite like that.
Your Dad how about the argument that the film doesn’t have as big of a deep message as it aims to? Or that it borrows too much from other films making it predictable? These are arguments against it that I’ve heard. I still love the movie but it’s far from perfect, Joaquin Phoenix definitely saved some of the weaker points.
@@W3irdWombat I agree that the film wasn't amazing, and understand the low review scores, but I think you're ignoring something really important; The film is connecting with people on a meaningful level. People can see themselves in Arthur Fleck, because he represents or at least speaks to the small percentage of the population that feels disconnected from and abandoned by society at large. It isn't the first film to do it, but most films that speak to the weirdos of society do so in a pandering and condescending manner, in which the weirdo is seen as cute, endearing and simply misunderstood! For someone who genuinely can't connect with people, this can be eye-rolling at best and frustrating at worst. Joker doesn't do this, instead it portrays the feelings of resentment, anger and hopelessness that being a weirdo more commonly makes you feel. It's about a character who's shunned by society, made a spectacle of and treated as less than human, and responds with great vengeance. He is a monster, created by society, and the sick part is, he's only taken notice of and accepted, when he becomes a monster. Arthurs speech on the talk show comes across as cheesy or self pitying, only if you can't relate to his pain, and most of the film critics reviewing this film have never and may never feel like Arthur Fleck. Infact most people will go through their lives never experiencing what it's like to feel outside society, but for those who do, will relate to this film. And for me, that makes this at the very least an important film.
@@W3irdWombat this movie is pretty vague about its message. You can't be sure whether its all going on in Arthur's mind and which events really took place. But clearly its all from the perspective of a psychopath with pseudobulbar affect, and you can't find your 'substance' or 'deep message' in it because you're expecting Buddha's teachings from a mentally ill patient.
The critics all thought the last Jedi was a tour de force while pretty much everyone else (the public aka the people that matter) either hated it or thought it was mediocre at best. I wouldn’t pay attention to that nonsense. They have an agenda and Joker inconveniences that.
“If I was dead on the street u would walk right past me” he was speaking straight facts at the end (that doesn’t make him morally right)
Exactly.. there were so many society parallels.. even in my theatre after randall gets killed and the little guys all scared n couldn't open the door bcuz its safety was on. Ppl laughed bcuz he couldnt reach bcuz of his height and I was thinking "really? U idiots are missing the point of what this movie is trying to show the wrong side of society and u ppl are just that"
Or maybe people shouldn’t be easily offended. That part was funny.
Tiki80 that part was supposed to be funny ..
@@jzhvaeduh yes kinda lightly but considering you're stuck with a maniac and a dead body beside it wasn't THAT funny
@@jzhvaeduh also Arthur joked or said something abt his height ppl kept laughing
Saying movies cause violence is like saying hot wheels cause car crashes
DK Chin cool comment bro
@@stevenhayden4060 thanks
It depends. There are some really disconnected from the world impressionable people out there who shouldn’t be watching movies like this.
Steven Hayden
Absolutely nonsensical analogy.
Probably the worst analogy i ever seen
Arthur: Wanna hear another joke Murray?
Murray:No thank you, unless it's gonna *BLOW MY MIND*
I don't think the ending scene was like the scene at the beginning. The difference is that his laugh at the end is real.
Brilliant observation.
he finally has a true reason to laugh
Was he imagining all that
Or what did really made him feal funny at the end
@@outplayed8068 I think its just him coming to acceptance that nobody gets it. He just understands and so he laughs and he embraces himself basically.
"If I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice!"
- _Batman: The Killing Joke_
This movie has made it multiple choice owing to the dilemma of whether sth was real or imagined by Arthur entirely. The unreliable narrator in the form of Joker, the origin is still multiple choice (options are more close now though, even harder to pinpoint exact answer)
I absolutely love The Killing Joke!!!